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[00:05] Ekoda
Thank you for calling. This is the Phoenix
Life Insurance customer service center.
[00:09] Customer
Um... My husband passed away...
[00:11] Ekoda
My condolences. This must
be a difficult time for you.
[00:15] Ekoda
Great. More death...
[00:15] Ekoda
May I ask the name on the
policy or the customer number?
[00:18] Customer
It's Idenoguchi Shuhei.
[00:20] Ekoda
Idenoguchi Shuhei-sama, correct?
[00:24] Kouhai
Looks like you hit the
jackpot today, sis!
[00:27] Ekoda
Four out of the five claims
I've processed have been suicides.
[00:29] Ekoda
And don't call me "sis."
[00:31] Kouhai
But that's what you are, sis!
[00:33] Kouhai
Wow, I go for a quick break and
come back to find 40 callers waiting?
[00:37] Kouhai
I am now entering "operations mode"!
[00:39] Kouhai
Operations, switching on!
[00:41] Kouhai
Thank you for calling.
[00:43] Ekoda
Looks like someone's having fun.
[00:43] Kouhai
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
[00:46] Ekoda
I sit here day after day, in the same seat,
with the same scripted responses...
[00:49] Co-worker
Thank you for your call.
[00:50] Ekoda
Wow, look at that beautiful sunset.
[00:53] Ekoda
And I'm the only one who's noticed it.
[00:56] Ekoda
There's something soothing about that...
[00:58] Kouhai
Hey, sis!
[01:00] Boss
I don't see hands moving.
[01:03] Ekoda
I guess I must've spaced out for a sec...
[01:05] Boss
And while you space out, the calls stack up.
[01:08] Ekoda
Sorry about that.
[01:10] Kouhai
Y'know... I heard she's got a toyboy.
[01:13] Ekoda
I heard she's got a bunch of toyboys.
[01:16] Coworker
Wait, what? A bunch?
[01:18] Ekoda
I threw in a few extra.
[01:20] Customer
Yeah, the last person I talked to
was terrible. Can I speak to a manager?
[01:22] Ekoda
Great. I've got a whiner.
[01:24] Ekoda
One moment, please.
[01:26] Ekoda
And the signal is...
SIGN Smoke
& mirrors
[01:31] Ekoda
My supervisor's currently away from
his desk, but I can take your call.
[01:35] Customer
Fine. Just put me on with that
Kato person I was talking to earlier.
[01:35] Ekoda
Excuse #1.
[01:37] Ekoda
We have several Katos here.
[01:39] Ekoda
I can find out who you were speaking to
if you give me your name and policy number.
[01:44] Customer
What a pain in the ass.
[01:46] Ekoda
Stormy weather all around, huh?
[01:48] Customer
06294028461, Yamada Yoko.
[01:53] Customer
Now, put Kato on.
[01:54] Ekoda
I'm terribly sorry, ma'am...
[01:56] Ekoda
The Kato in question is
currently on another call.
[01:59] Yamada
All right, fine!
[01:59] Ekoda
Excuse #2.
[02:01] Ekoda
Oh, she's gone.
[02:03] Ekoda
And so's the power?
[02:05] Boss
It's just a blackout!
[02:05] Kouhai
Game over, man!
[02:06] Boss
Backup power should kick in any second!
[02:08] Boss
Everyone, remain calm!
[02:08] Ekoda
Ah, here we go.
[02:09] Boss
Please don't leave your desks!
[02:10] Ekoda
The lights are taking their time, though.
[02:15] Kouhai
Selecting optimal course of action:
conserve energy for moment of reactivation.
[02:21] Ekoda
More than 50 callers waiting...
[02:23] Ekoda
Is it even worth bothering,
in the circumstances?
[02:26] Boss
Please get back to work!
[02:30] Coworker
I can't take it!
[02:31] Boss
Hey! Don't just run off!
[02:34] Kouhai
Returning to duty!
[02:35] Kouhai
Re-entering "operations mode"!
[02:37] Kouhai
Ops, on!
[02:41] Kouhai
Thank you for your call.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN Verify their
information!
[02:43] Kouhai
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN I understand
your frustration!
SIGN You got this!
[02:43] Ekoda
It's utter chaos in here.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN I understand
your frustration!
SIGN You got this!
SIGN You got this!
[02:45] Ekoda
I want to run away, too.
[02:47] Ekoda
But it's not in my nature to go off the deep end
and lose control when all hell breaks loose.
[02:52] Ekoda
Thank you for your call. You're through to
Phoenix Life Insurance customer services.
[02:56] Customer
Um... My son caught a STD and...
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:51] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we would be unveiling the
director of Episode 9: Takahashi Takeo,
SIGN Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
[03:58] Narrator
but he passed up the chance to appear!
SIGN Episode 9's Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
[04:01] Narrator
Surely that would only be allowed
on a show as free-spirited as Ekoda-chan?
[04:04] Narrator
We'll speak to Ekoda-chan's VA
for this week, Koshimizu Ami-san,
[04:07] Narrator
and it's going to be a little
different from usual!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[04:17] Takahashi 2
Regarding the round-table
discussion with Director Takahashi...
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding Director Takahashi...
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:20] Koshimizu
Right.
[04:21] Takahashi 2
Whenever he's on camera, he tends
to just freeze up completely.
[04:25] Koshimizu
Right.
[04:26] Takahashi 2
And seeing as how that'd
create a whole heap of issues,
[04:29] Takahashi 2
he opted to sit this one out.
[04:31] Takahashi 2
With that in mind,
I, the voice actor, Takahashi Ryosuke,
SIGN Episode 9's Director
Takahashi Takeo
(VA: Takahashi Ryosuke)
[04:36] Takahashi 2
will be performing the role of
Takahashi Takeo for this episode.
[04:41] Koshimizu
Yay!
[04:42] Kataoka
So that's...
[04:42] Koshimizu
Yay!
[04:44] Kataoka
I was wondering why the director looked
so different. That explains everything.
[04:48] Kataoka
Thanks for coming.
[04:48] Koshimizu
Seriously!
[04:49] Koshimizu
It's good to have you here.
[04:51] Kataoka
Our director is an industry veteran,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The director and Koshimizu-san's first meeting...
[04:53] Kataoka
and from where I sit, you're quite
the veteran yourself, Koshimizu-san.
[04:57] Kataoka
Do you remember when you
first encountered each other?
[05:00] Takahashi 2
We first met on a project
I directed called "Spice and Wolf."
[05:06] Koshimizu
That's right.
[05:06] Kataoka
Was "Spice and Wolf" a TV series? Or a movie?
[05:09] Koshimizu
Well...
[05:10] Koshimizu
It was a TV series I was in,
and looking back...
[05:14] Koshimizu
I guess it must've been... about
ten years ago? Maybe a little more?
[05:21] Koshimizu
Yeah.
[05:23] Kataoka
What were your impressions of
Koshimizu-san back then, Director?
[05:25] Takahashi 2
I was impressed with how
well she handled interviews,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN First impressions of Koshimizu-san
[05:29] Takahashi 2
in spite of her youthfulness.
[05:31] Koshimizu
Thank you so much!
[05:33] Koshimizu
So that's what you thought.
[05:35] Kataoka
And what were your impressions
of the director, Koshimizu-san?
[05:37] Koshimizu
Well, just like today,
SIGN First impressions of Director Takahashi
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[05:40] Koshimizu
he seemed so shy, he could have really
used a voice actor to speak for him.
[05:44] Kataoka
Shy...
[05:45] Koshimizu
Whenever the director talked,
it was a bit like... "Yes."
[05:50] Koshimizu
And I'd be like, "Wait, what?"
[05:52] Koshimizu
And he'd just whisper: "Yes, well..."
[05:54] Koshimizu
That's how he is. Shy.
[05:56] Kataoka
A director's job is to helm the project.
SIGN It's okay to be a quiet director?
[06:00] Kataoka
So if he puts everything in his head or
everything he wants to say into the show,
[06:04] Kataoka
then, whether he utters
a word or not doesn't matter,
[06:08] Kataoka
as long as it's all up there
on the screen, I think.
[06:14] Koshimizu
You might have a point there. Right?
SIGN The 3-Minute World
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[06:24] Kataoka
How did you come up with
the concept for this episode?
[06:24] Censor Bar
Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Behind the concept
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[06:29] Ami
Oh, now that you mention it...
[06:29] Kataoka
I'd love to know.
[06:30] Ami
That's a good question.
[06:32] Takahashi 2
The concept behind the original work,
along with this adaptation,
[06:35] Takahashi 2
was something the producer
outlined beforehand.
[06:38] Takahashi 2
So my focus was on how to best utilize
the short three-minute run-time.
[06:42] Kataoka
You'll notice that his answer just now
[06:44] Kataoka
was about the episode format.
[06:47] Kataoka
I get the feeling that it's his way
of saying, "You know this already!"
[06:52] Koshimizu
The thing that impressed me
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Is three minutes long or short?
[06:54] Koshimizu
is that, compared to the length of a typical
TV episode, three minutes isn't a lot of time.
[07:01] Koshimizu
And there's the fact that
Ekoda-chan is a 4-koma manga,
[07:03] Koshimizu
so adapting one strip into three minutes
would stretch the material a little thin.
[07:07] Koshimizu
So the issue becomes, how do you
expand on what you're working with,
[07:12] Koshimizu
while still keeping it contained
to a single episode?
[07:14] Koshimizu
And when I was doing the voice-over,
I was like, "So that's how you do it!"
[07:18] Koshimizu
That's the impression I got.
[07:19] Koshimizu
Now, out of curiosity...
[07:20] Koshimizu
You're currently doing the director's voice...
[07:23] Takahashi 2
Right.
[07:24] Koshimizu
But what did you think of it, Takahashi-san?
Takahashi the voice actor, I mean.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN What did Takahashi-san (the guy portraying the director) think?
[07:28] Takahashi 2
Let's see, I think, once I saw the
video in the voice-over session...
[07:32] Takahashi 2
The way the cuts were put
together to look so seamless,
[07:38] Takahashi 2
combined with the seriously
fast pace of the story...
[07:43] Takahashi 2
Even thought it was only three
minutes' long, the way it played out...
[07:46] Takahashi 2
I thought it was really bold and cool.
[07:49] Koshimizu
It's really amazing how
it's got these parallel stories.
[07:51] Koshimizu
You see all of them playing out at the same
time. Over the course of three minutes.
[07:53] Censor Bar
Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Creating such a vibrant world in just 3 minutes is an impressive feat
[07:56] Koshimizu
But you see the lives of so many
people playing out at once.
[07:59] Takahashi 2
It's really impressive
in terms of how efficient it is.
[08:03] Kataoka
This story takes place in a call
center for a life insurance firm.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Using a life insurance firm call center as a setting
[08:08] Koshimizu
Right.
[08:09] Kataoka
Choosing that for his setting
is really interesting.
[08:12] Koshimizu
I agree.
[08:13] Kataoka
I mean, the phone operators
who work in a job like that...
[08:16] Kataoka
They end up taking
some pretty heavy calls.
[08:18] Koshimizu
True.
[08:19] Kataoka
They're on the phone with people
[08:23] Kataoka
who are going through very
dramatic moments in their lives.
[08:29] Kataoka
And I imagine they get exposed
to a lot of different reactions,
[08:32] Kataoka
and I found it impressive
how that was represented.
[08:34] Koshimizu
You've got a point.
[08:36] Koshimizu
The way you kinda get a feeling
for the lives of these callers,
[08:42] Koshimizu
as well as the people taking their calls.
[08:45] Koshimizu
The fact that everything plays
out over just three minutes,
[08:49] Koshimizu
but you get bombarded with so much!
[08:51] Koshimizu
Nicely done!
[08:53] Kataoka
I was impressed myself.
[08:54] Koshimizu
Right?
[08:55] Takahashi 2
Right.
[08:57] Kataoka
When you were putting together the episode,
did anything give you trouble?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Any difficulties putting the episode together?
[09:01] Takahashi 2
This episode uses POV perspective,
with no 3D modeling in sight,
[09:06] Takahashi 2
and we see everything through
the eyes of the main character.
[09:10] Takahashi 2
I don't believe this has ever
been done in TV anime,
[09:13] Takahashi 2
and the process of nailing down how
to choreograph it was a great deal of work,
[09:18] Takahashi 2
but I believe we've produced something
hitherto unseen in this medium.
[09:22] Koshimizu
You're right!
[09:23] Kataoka
I thought as much.
[09:24] Koshimizu
Now that you mention it, yeah.
[09:26] Koshimizu
When you put it like that,
[09:29] Koshimizu
it makes me want to tell everyone
to go re-watch the episode somehow.
[09:34] Kataoka
Something you mentioned, Koshimizu-san,
[09:37] Kataoka
is that you took a lot of
your inspiration for lines
[09:42] Kataoka
from the way the perspective
of the camera moved.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The camera perspective made it easier to get into character
[09:46] Kataoka
It's interesting how the set up of
the shots contain that kind of insight.
[09:49] Koshimizu
You've got a point.
[09:51] Koshimizu
I think that might well be the case.
[09:54] Kataoka
So it's only three minutes...
[09:57] Kataoka
Yeah.
[09:58] Kataoka
but the voice-over process
took almost two hours.
[10:01] Koshimizu
Right.
[10:02] Kataoka
And I'm sure you had to do a lot of
thinking about how to nail the character.
[10:07] Kataoka
Looking back now,
SIGN Things emphasized during the voice-over recording
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[10:10] Kataoka
did anything strike you
as being noteworthy,
[10:12] Kataoka
or did you have any moments of inspiration?
[10:14] Koshimizu
Well, earlier, the director
said something about
[10:18] Koshimizu
how it focuses on showing
how many different things
[10:21] Koshimizu
can happen at once in the same space.
[10:24] Koshimizu
And Ekoda-chan is slap bang in the
center of everything that's going on.
[10:30] Koshimizu
So there's this confined space,
and here's Ekoda-chan,
SIGN Building an environment around Ekoda-chan
[10:33] Koshimizu
and in her orbit is all this
stuff that's happening.
[10:36] Koshimizu
And in order to highlight that
she's at the center of it all,
[10:41] Koshimizu
for her internal monologue, and for her
interactions with other characters, too,
[10:46] Koshimizu
I wanted to talk with a level of intimacy
[10:50] Koshimizu
that would encourage the audience
to see through her eyes.
[10:58] Koshimizu
While everyone else is
yammering on and making a fuss,
[11:02] Koshimizu
there's that one scene where
she just stares out the window...
[11:07] Koshimizu
I thought that was incredibly realistic.
[11:10] Koshimizu
I think that, in life, you're
sometimes in conversations
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The realism of Ekoda-chan
[11:13] Koshimizu
where you're just going, "Yeah, you're right."
[11:16] Koshimizu
Like, if there's three of you talking,
[11:18] Koshimizu
and your whole contribution is,
"Mmhm. Mmhm. Mmhm."
[11:21] Koshimizu
And then, you get distracted,
or start thinking about something else...
[11:25] Koshimizu
I think everyone has moments like that.
[11:27] Koshimizu
The way that was depicted...
[11:30] Koshimizu
I really wanted to get across how you feel
inside when you have those moments.
[11:41] Kataoka
I would think that's really hard to do, as well.
[11:44] Kataoka
I asked the director if he wanted
to make a quiet episode or a busy one.
[11:50] Kataoka
And he said he wanted a busy one.
[11:52] Kataoka
So everyone except Ekoda-chan
[11:54] Kataoka
is making a lot of noise.
[11:55] Koshimizu
Right.
[11:56] Kataoka
And amidst that cacophony,
she peers out the window...
[12:00] Koshimizu
Right! Exactly!
[12:02] Koshimizu
But y'know, the way things get more
and more chaotic in the second half,
[12:07] Koshimizu
that was something I thought was really fun.
[12:10] Koshimizu
And cramming so many points
of interest into just three minutes
[12:19] Koshimizu
wasn't just entertaining;
it was really amazing, too.
[12:22] Kataoka
Right.
[12:23] Kataoka
There's the part where she looks
out the window and it's dusk,
[12:26] Kataoka
and then later, a thunderstorm rolls in.
[12:28] Kataoka
You generally don't associate
those two things with each other.
[12:33] Kataoka
So putting them back to back is
something of a surprise to the viewer...
[12:37] Kataoka
Coupled with the way the bit
with the sunset helps to break up
[12:41] Kataoka
the noise of the episode, and keeps it
from turning into pure noise.
[12:44] Kataoka
And with Ekoda-chan's internal
monologue in the mix, too.
[12:47] Koshimizu
It helps modulate the tempo.
[12:50] Kataoka
I would've thought having that variation
would make the vocal performance harder.
[12:54] Koshimizu
Oh, no, not at all!
[12:55] Koshimizu
Having to mix it up just adds to the fun.
[12:56] Kataoka
Ah, I see.
[12:58] Koshimizu
That's what I think.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 9's Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
The first half highlighted the attention
to detail shown by Director Takahashi Takeo,
[13:10] Narrator
along with his innocent personality.
[13:13] Narrator
In the second half, we're going to hear
Koshimizu Ami-san's candid opinions,
[13:16] Narrator
and philosophy on life.
[13:19] Narrator
Watch this and you too can
become like Ekoda-chan! Maybe.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Koshimizu Ami-san's Smorgasbord
of Behind-the-Scenes Stories
[13:25] Kataoka
Did you have any first impressions
when the script dropped in your lap?
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[13:29] Koshimizu
Good question! Well...
[13:31] Koshimizu
When you look at a script,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN First impressions when reading the script
[13:33] Koshimizu
there's the section that describes
what's going on in the scene,
[13:39] Koshimizu
and below that, it has who's
speaking and their lines.
[13:43] Koshimizu
That's how voice-over
scripts are structured.
[13:45] Koshimizu
So I'm scanning it, reading about the
scenes, and looking over the lines,
[13:50] Koshimizu
and I'm like, "This is a lot!"
[13:53] Koshimizu
That was my first impression, I'd say.
[13:57] Koshimizu
You can easily tell when
looking at a script
[14:01] Koshimizu
whether the story's going
to unfold at an even pace,
[14:04] Koshimizu
or go at breakneck speed
with a buttload of action.
[14:07] Koshimizu
To make it easier to picture,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The story's atmosphere being apparent in the script
[14:09] Koshimizu
imagine you've got the scene here,
and the spoken lines underneath.
[14:14] Koshimizu
And then, down here, you've
also got overlapping dialogue,
[14:18] Koshimizu
so it's a lot going on all at once.
[14:19] Koshimizu
So as I'm reading it, my reaction is, "What's
the recording going to be like tomorrow?"
[14:24] Koshimizu
"Oh, boy!" Basically.
[14:26] Kataoka
So, as you're reading,
[14:28] Kataoka
I imagine you're formulating your
approach to voicing her in your head, yes?
[14:31] Kataoka
Did any of those ideas change when you
got in the studio and were given direction?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Anything you noticed about the direction you received?
[14:37] Koshimizu
I think that can be said
of any character, to be honest,
[14:41] Koshimizu
because voice actors read the script
themselves and have their own take on them,
[14:45] Koshimizu
and well, their ideas aren't exactly wrong,
[14:49] Koshimizu
but additional takes are done to explore
the dialogue from a whole range of angles,
[14:55] Koshimizu
and I thought there was
a lot of that in this recording,
[14:58] Koshimizu
exploring all the different possibilities.
[15:03] Kataoka
Did you find any of Ekoda-chan's
lines particularly memorable?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Any memorable lines?
[15:09] Koshimizu
That's a good question!
[15:11] Koshimizu
Something I think most
women might tune in on,
[15:16] Koshimizu
is how, at the very end,
she's talking to herself,
[15:18] Koshimizu
and she lets slip that she wants to run away,
[15:21] Koshimizu
because of the crazy
situation she finds herself in,
[15:25] Koshimizu
but she's just not the kind
of person who does that.
[15:28] ---
My reaction to that was: "I feel you."
[15:31] Kataoka
You could relate to that?
[15:32] Koshimizu
I totally got that part.
[15:34] Koshimizu
That feeling of wanting to
join in with the mass hysteria,
[15:37] Koshimizu
but you just can't.
[15:39] Koshimizu
Something about that
really resonated with me.
[15:44] Koshimizu
It left a deep impression.
[15:46] Kataoka
Have you been in a lot of situations
where you end up thinking that?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Moments where she's felt like that
[15:50] Koshimizu
Where I want to quit,
but can't bring myself to?
[15:53] Kataoka
Yeah.
[15:54] Koshimizu
Well, I think that, in moments like that,
[15:57] Koshimizu
you always tend to get
further by toughing it out.
[16:03] Koshimizu
After thirty-something years on Earth,
I think that's something I've figured out.
[16:08] Koshimizu
Whenever I stick it out,
instead of just giving in,
[16:13] Koshimizu
I always end up with
something to show for it,
[16:17] Koshimizu
whether it's experience gained,
or something I've learned.
[16:20] Koshimizu
So I feel like the right move is
to hang in there and not give up.
[16:25] Kataoka
What do you think about
Ekoda-chan's way of life?
[16:29] Koshimizu
That's a tough one!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding Ekoda-chan's way of life
[16:31] Koshimizu
There's so much to her...
[16:34] Koshimizu
Like, how she's an expert at saying
one thing and thinking another,
[16:37] Koshimizu
and how you can't say she lives
in a totally selfish way...
[16:41] Koshimizu
But in spite of that, she's
always loyal to her desires.
[16:45] Koshimizu
She's the kind of character
that I find pretty remarkable,
[16:49] Koshimizu
because her life's so different from mine.
[16:54] Kataoka
You made a good point there.
[16:57] Kataoka
About how she's totally
honest about what she wants.
[16:59] Koshimizu
Yeah, exactly!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The way Ekoda-chan is true to her desires
[17:01] Koshimizu
I think it's impressive.
[17:02] Kataoka
It's remarkable, isn't it?
[17:03] Koshimizu
I think that sort of thing
requires a lot of courage.
[17:07] Koshimizu
So it's really interesting
to see someone live like that.
[17:11] Kataoka
Yeah.
SIGN Q&A with
Director Takahashi
[17:17] Kataoka
As fun as having our
own little conversation is,
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[17:19] Kataoka
there are some questions
only the director can answer.
[17:22] Kataoka
The adaption of "Rinshi!!
Ekoda-chan" we're doing here
[17:25] Kataoka
involves 12 directors each doing
one three-minute episode.
[17:30] Koshimizu
That's remarkable.
[17:31] Kataoka
Doing a show where you're only making one out
of 12 episodes is an odd project to take on,
[17:38] Kataoka
so I'm curious as to what made
you agree to be a part of this.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Your reasons for working on this project
[17:44] Koshimizu
True. I was just thinking how,
in terms of flavor,
[17:49] Koshimizu
Ekoda-chan is a bit different
from your previous works.
[17:53] Koshimizu
So I'm curious, too!
[17:55] Koshimizu
Why'd you agree to do it?
[17:57] Takahashi 2
I received the offer from a studio
[17:59] Takahashi 2
I've had the pleasure of working with
several times before, Creators in Pack,
[18:05] Takahashi 2
and after hearing about the details
of the project, I agreed to work on it.
[18:08] Koshimizu
I see!
[18:10] Kataoka
Just looking at the footage is enough
to tell you it turned out great.
[18:13] Kataoka
The way the storyboards were
adapted was done very faithfully,
[18:18] Kataoka
which made me think you must
have a great relationship
[18:21] Kataoka
with the people at Creators in Pack.
[18:23] Kataoka
I'm really curious about
what your thoughts were,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding character design
[18:28] Kataoka
or what you wanted to achieve
with the character designs.
[18:33] Takahashi 2
I asked Ijuin-san,
who did the character designs
[18:35] Takahashi 2
for an anime I worked on in
2017, "Citrus," to handle that.
[18:40] Takahashi 2
I received a request
from the production side
[18:45] Takahashi 2
for elements of sexuality
to be included in the episode,
[18:48] Takahashi 2
so that was the main theme
going into the design.
[18:51] Takahashi 2
I believe the character designs captured
the essence of the source material,
[18:56] Takahashi 2
while also fulfilling
the producer's requests.
[18:58] Koshimizu
That's a good point.
[18:59] Koshimizu
The story Ekoda-chan's in this time,
compared to ones she's usually in...
[19:03] Koshimizu
She's wearing clothes, for a start!
[19:04] Kataoka
Yeah, she is.
[19:07] Koshi
So it becomes a question of "How else
do you go about injecting sexiness into it?"
[19:12] Kataoka
The actual story doesn't
seem all that sexual at first.
[19:15] Koshimizu
'Cause she's clothed!
[19:16] Kataoka
Exactly.
[19:17] Kataoka
So I think for Takahashi-san to respond
to that request with this kind of episode,
[19:25] Kataoka
I think it gives us the sense that
his concept of sex appeal is sort of...
[19:30] Kataoka
...subtle.
[19:31] Koshimizu
I get that feeling, too.
[19:32] Koshimizu
Like, it's really pure in nature.
[19:32] Kataoka
Right, right.
[19:34] Koshimizu
Which I guess is why...
[19:35] Kataoka
Right.
[19:36] Koshimizu
We have a stand-in.
[19:38] Koshimizu
A stand-in for the director.
[19:41] Kataoka
What are your thoughts
on love and marriage?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The director's thoughts on love and marriage
[19:43] Takahashi
In terms of cost-effectiveness,
[19:46] Takahashi
the price Ekoda-chan pays for her lifestyle
might seem higher than its worth.
[19:49] Takahashi
Personally, I think a life focused
on things like romance and marriage
[19:53] Takahashi
without worrying about
finances would be wonderful.
[19:56] Takahashi
Although, in the case of Ekoda-chan,
[19:57] Takahashi
her behavior can seem a bit risky at times.
[20:03] Koshimizu
That's true, in a way. Lately, it seems like...
[20:08] Koshimizu
attitudes on marriage
among the younger generation
[20:13] Koshimizu
seem to be changing quite a bit.
[20:17] Kataoka
So, Director, if you were Ekoda-chan...
SIGN If you were Ekoda-chan...
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[20:23] Kataoka
What kind of life would you lead?
[20:24] Koshimizu
A question with gender-swapping
as the premise!
[20:28] Takahashi 2
I've never lived in Ekoda before,
[20:31] Takahashi 2
so I'd love to take a stroll
around and see what it's like.
[20:33] Koshimizu
What the heck?!
[20:33] Kataoka
That answer...
[20:36] Koshimizu
He dodged it well.
[20:37] Kataoka
Indeed he did.
[20:38] Kataoka
What would you like to do if you
were Ekoda-chan, Koshimizu-san?
SIGN If Koshimizu-san was Ekoda-chan...
[20:42] Koshimizu
We're just so different, both in
terms of our lives and our careers...
[20:47] Koshimizu
There's so much that's distinct...
[20:49] Koshimizu
I kinda think I'd like to just
see what her life is like, as-is.
[20:54] Kataoka
Good point.
[20:56] Koshimizu
What is that even like?
[20:57] Koshimizu
This episode actually gave me a glimpse into
what it might be like, in some small way.
[21:03] Koshimizu
Being able to see the world, and the
people in it, through Ekoda-chan's eyes...
[21:08] Koshimizu
What does she think?
[21:10] Koshimizu
I'd love a peek.
[21:12] Kataoka
It really is fascinating.
[21:13] Kataoka
Granted, you got a condensed
taste of it for three minutes.
[21:17] Koshimizu
Very condensed!
[21:19] Koshimizu
But it's true, we did.
[21:22] Kataoka
As we wrap up, I'd like to ask
both of you one last thing.
[21:27] Kataoka
What do you think is
the appeal of Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The appeal of Ekoda-chan
[21:30] Koshimizu
What do you think?
[21:31] Takahashi 2
My wife is a fan of Ekoda-chan.
[21:34] Koshimizu
Right.
[21:34] Takahashi
But, in my opinion, my wife and
Ekoda-chan are very different.
[21:39] Takahashi
But for my wife, she's able to relate
to a lot of the material in the manga,
[21:43] Takahashi
which makes me think that many
of the readers who enjoy it
[21:46] Takahashi
must feel the same way.
[21:47] Koshimizu
Oh, I really feel you on that one.
[21:51] Koshimizu
I think that, since there's such
a variety of different scenes,
[21:57] Koshimizu
there's at least one thing
that everyone can relate to,
[22:02] Koshimizu
and that's the charm of Ekoda-chan.
[22:08] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:11] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:15] Narrator
we'll go behind the scenes on the quirky
tenth episode of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
SIGN Director
[22:19] Narrator
What secrets will the Director and
Ekoda-chan reveal about production?
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:24] Narrator
Looks like next week will be
another must-see episode!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:28] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Glasses
SIGN Face
SIGN Clothes
SIGN Shading
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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