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[00:01] Ekoda
    Let's see, I'm 24 this year...
[00:05] Ekoda
    Twenty-four?!
[00:07] Ekoda
    I had forgotten!
[00:09] Ekoda
    What the heck? I just remembered the truth!
[00:15] Ekoda
    Okay, today it's survival through ignorance!
[00:18] Ekoda
    'Cuz I'm a kid!
[00:19] Ekoda
    And I don't get it!
[00:31] Mysterious Guy
    So obnoxious...
[00:43] Mysterious Guy
    Let's see.
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
[00:55] TV
    Just get a look at that cutting edge!
[00:58] TV
    It's like the tomato doesn't
    register being cut!
[01:02] Ekoda
    That's ridiculous!
    It doesn't know it's been cut?
[01:05] Ekoda
    As if that could even happen! How stupid!
[01:09] Ekoda
    Come to think of it,
    K-kun hasn't called lately.
[01:12] Ekoda
    Does that mean I've been
     cut off already, too?!
[01:16] Ekoda
    No, no, it can't be.
[01:18] Ekoda
    Let's see here...
SIGN    Street Corner Interview
[01:32] News
    This is Tanaka-san, who raises
    flowers on her property every year.
[01:38] Tanaka
    I want anyone who passes by to feel better.
[01:42] Tanaka
    It really is beautiful!
[01:43] Ekoda
    I get you.
[01:44] Idols
    Thanks for talking with us!
[01:46] Idols
    With our cheery singing and dancing,
    we want to help everyone dream!
SIGN    Street Corner Interview
[01:49] Idols
    So we'll sing!
[02:40] Ekoda
    You creepy bastard!
[02:43] Ekoda
    Hey, I've got a bear in my pubes!
[02:47] Ekoda
    You see it?!
[03:33] Narrator
    They say that ten different people
    produce ten different versions.
SIGN    Ten Versions
SIGN    Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
    But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN    Sugii
    Gisaburo
SIGN    Takahashi
    Ryosuke
SIGN    Daichi Akitaro
SIGN    Mochizuki
    Tomomi
SIGN    Misawa Shin
SIGN    Takahashi Takeo
SIGN    Yonetani
    Yoshitomo
SIGN    Kobayashi
     Osamu
SIGN    Kojima
    Masayuki
SIGN    Shigino Akira
SIGN    Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    12 Women
SIGN    12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
    12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN    Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
    we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
    actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:45] Narrator
    Over the course of the next 12 episodes
    of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
    we'll be checking in with
    the directors of each episode,
[03:51] Narrator
    and the voice actress
    portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
    Today, we're unveiling the director
    of Episode 12: Morimoto Koji,
SIGN    Director
SIGN    Morimoto Koji
[03:59] Narrator
    and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tamurapan.
SIGN    Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN    Tamurapan
[04:01] Narrator
    This will be the final discussion segment!
SIGN    Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
SIGN    Tamurapan
SIGN    Episode 12's Director
SIGN    Morimoto Koji
[04:04] Narrator
    Get ready for a candid look at the
    production of the episode once again.
[04:08] Narrator
    "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
    The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    Naked Chat
SIGN    Naked Chat
SIGN    Naked Chat
[04:14] Narrator
    We're baring all for you!
SIGN    Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
SIGN    Rinshi!!
    Ekoda-Chan:
    The Director
    and
    Ekoda-chan's
    Naked
    Chat
[04:16] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    After the recording
[04:16] Koji
    In terms of how it turned out, well...
SIGN    Episode 12's Director
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
    Tamurapan
[04:20] Koji
    I was looking forward to it,
[04:23] Koji
    and when you actually are
    present, and things are happening,
[04:26] Koji
    the process itself can be fun.
[04:28] Koji
    And it's been a while
    since I got to enjoy that.
[04:31] Koji
    Well, our lead actress tends to get a lot
    of amusement out of a variety of things,
[04:37] Koji
    so I didn't have much to worry about there.
[04:41] Koji
    If anything, I was more concerned with
    how to depict Tamura World effectively.
[04:46] Koji
    That was more of a concern.
[04:48] Koji
    I think it was sort of a back-and-forth
    about how best to use her performance,
[04:52] Koji
    whenever the ball was in my possession...
[04:55] Koji
    She handled the music for the episode, too.
[04:59] Koji
    And even that back-and-forth
    process is enjoyable.
[05:01] Koji
    You get these chemical reactions that
    come from someone else's take on things,
[05:06] Koji
    and the changes that can result
    from that are really interesting.
[05:09] Koji
    It makes me realize these
    projects have a life of their own.
[05:13] Koji
    It's about when to pull back,
    and when to go deeper.
SIGN    Project Producer
    Hatanaka Taichi
[05:17] Koji
    I was watching with those things in mind.
[05:20] Tamura
    It was just a lot of fun.
[05:22] Tamura
    The thing is... when it comes to Ekoda-chan,
[05:27] Tamura
    I feel like I understand her a lot.
[05:30] Tamura
    Like, I get Ekoda-chan.
[05:33] Tamura
    When the subject first came up
    with Director Morimoto,
[05:37] Tamura
    I told him, "I get Ekoda-chan."
[05:39] Tamura
    So I was grateful for the chance
    to become her today.
[05:48] Tamura
    And I got to say the kind of things
    that you wouldn't normally say
[05:53] Tamura
    in front of so many people,
    and that was liberating.
[05:57] Koji
    A bit of dirty talk!
[05:58] Tamura
    Yeah, really!
[05:59] Tamura
    That was a ton of fun.
[06:01] Koji
    Like light S&M.
[06:03] Tamura
    It felt great.
[06:05] Tamura
    At one point I got a little dazed,
    because I had been shouting so much.
[06:09] Koji
    Sorry about that.
[06:10] Taichi
    That is a scene with a lot of shouting!
[06:12] Koji
    That's true.
[06:12] Tamura
    Really.
[06:14] Koji
    They're not the kind
    of things you'd usually say.
[06:15] Tamura
    Right, exactly.
[06:17] Tamura
    They're... I imagine voice
    actors have a lot of fun.
[06:20] Koji
    Right, they get to say things
    they normally never would.
[06:21] Tamura
    And it's like an everyday thing.
[06:24] Koji
    It's a bit like playing pretend.
[06:26] Tamura
    Right.
[06:27] Tamura
    It's really fun.
[06:28] Tamura
    I mean, it's a scene that wouldn't be
    out of place in a normal life,
[06:32] Tamura
    but the words aren't yours.
[06:35] Tamura
    They're not even what you would think,
[06:39] Tamura
    but in a situation that
    you would be in, I guess.
[06:42] Tamura
    That's really interesting.
[06:44] Koji
    One thing...
[06:45] Koji
    So you don't have the same
    kind of life as Ekoda-chan?
[06:49] Tamura
    Not this part, no!
[06:51] Tamura
    Not that.
[06:54] Tamura
    I don't ever flash anyone, but...
    in terms of watching TV?
[06:59] Koji
    Right, right.
[07:00] Tamura
    And going, "I feel you." That I understand.
[07:03] Tamura
    That is definitely something I do.
SIGN    Behind the scenes stories
    from Episode 12 of the
    "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[07:09] Koji
    They said I could do whatever I wanted.
SIGN    Reasons for accepting the offer to work on this?
[07:09] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
[07:12] Koji
    And that was the main thing.
[07:14] Koji
    I was like, "Really?!"
[07:15] Koji
    I mean, the voice actresses for the lead...
[07:19] Koji
    All the voice actresses are different,
     the music's different.
[07:23] Koji
    It made me wonder if that's a kind
    of project that can actually happen.
[07:25] Koji
    And that made me interested.
[07:28] Koji
    I knew a few of the people involved.
[07:29] Koji
    And I figured if they were in,
    I wanted to be, too.
[07:33] Taichi
    I see.
[07:34] Taichi
    To be honest, when we told you that
    you could do whatever you wanted...
[07:38] Taichi
    The first thing you came up with—
[07:39] Koji
    Well, there were too many
    things I wasn't allowed to do.
[07:42] Koji
    I was a bit disappointed!
[07:44] Koji
    I was like, "What the heck? But you said..."
[07:45] Taichi
    Sorry about that.
[07:48] Taichi
    There are other considerations...
[07:49] Koji
    They were like, "You can't do that.
    No, not that either."
[07:50] Tamura
    That's how it works!
[07:52] Tamura
    That's usually the facts.
[07:53] Koji
    I mean, I was like, "But she's naked!"
[07:56] Tamura
    Earlier there was,
     I'm not sure I can say this,
[07:56] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Questions about what is acceptable and unacceptable for broadcast
[07:59] Koji
    You mean—?
[07:59] Tamura
    this real discussion about nipples...
[08:02] Tamura
    And how much you could show,
    and it was this whole debate.
[08:07] Koji
    I mean, come on, we've all got them.
[08:10] Koji
    That's what I think. So it looks
    unnatural if they're not there.
[08:14] Koji
    But y'know, that's the kind of
    thing that's part of the process.
[08:17] Koji
    It can be kind of a drag.
[08:18] Tamura
    It was so funny.
[08:19] Tamura
    The things that weren't allowed...
[08:21] Tamura
    Like, where the line is drawn?
    That's interesting.
[08:22] Koji
    The no-gos?
[08:24] Koji
    What I'm saying is,
     who gets to make that call?
[08:26] Koji
    Well, really just Hatanaka-san.
    That's obvious!
[08:27] Taichi
    Edit that!
[08:29] Taichi
    We'll edit that later!
[08:32] Taichi
    We'll make it work!
[08:32] Koji
    Oh, it's fine.
[08:34] Koji
    I want to leave that part in.
[08:37] Taichi
    Well, if you're sure!
[08:39] Tamura
    But the first person who says no,
[08:41] Koji
    Right. But, y'know...
[08:41] Tamura
    I think that probably means that it's
    fundamentally a problem on some level, right?
[08:45] Taichi
    Exactly.
[08:46] Koji
    I mean, maybe it's not socially acceptable.
[08:48] Tamura
    For anime.
[08:49] Koji
    But this is on late at night.
[08:51] Tamura
    Right! I get what you mean.
[08:51] Koji
    That's the thing! I'd understand
    if it was on during prime time...
[08:55] Tamura
    That totally makes sense.
[08:56] Koji
    Right?
[08:57] Koji
    I mean, kids might see it then...
[09:01] Koji
    But when it's a time slot
    that's on late at night,
[09:04] Tamura
    Right.
[09:04] Koji
    it's not like elementary school
    kids are going to be watching.
[09:06] Tamura
    But I think, with really little kids,
    they'd probably still be close to their moms.
[09:12] Tamura
    So I doubt they'd end up seeing it anyway.
[09:14] Koji
    Right. Not what you'd expect.
[09:16] Koji
    I was trying to avoid certain... techniques?
[09:16] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Difficulties in production
[09:21] Koji
    I guess I did use those, but I wanted
    to do something different, too.
[09:25] Koji
    When I was putting this together.
[09:29] Koji
    It's kind of like... as an animator,
    and as a key animator,
[09:34] Koji
    I wanted to enjoy the kind of things that the
    director doesn't normally handle personally.
[09:39] Koji
    And I hope people notice those parts.
[09:41] Taichi
    Are there any particular scenes
    you paid close attention to?
[09:43] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Scenes the Director paid special attention to
[09:44] Koji
    I think the song.
[09:47] Taichi
    Ah, the song.
[09:49] Koji
    I figured that it has to land right.
[09:51] Tamura
    I'm looking forward to the finished version!
[09:51] Koji
    It's kind of a focal point.
[09:53] Taichi
    It's carrying a lot of weight
    for the episode as a whole.
[09:55] Koji
    Right, exactly.
[09:56] Koji
    I spent a lot of time on it.
[09:59] Tamura
    A lot of focus.
[09:59] Koji
    It felt like I was leaning hard on myself.
[10:01] Tamura
    A lot of time and care...
[10:03] Koji
    Nah, I wouldn't make it sound so severe.
[10:03] Tamura
    All that effort and sweat...
[10:06] Koji
    I'll hold it together.
[10:09] Tamura
    I think what I was imagining...
[10:09] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    First impressions when reading the script
[10:12] Tamura
    The sort of feeling of the world?
[10:16] Tamura
    I had been filled in on the kind of
    atmosphere we were going for,
[10:19] Tamura
    but then actually being able to...
[10:23] Tamura
    Take the scene I was imagining,
    and then put specific lines into it?
[10:29] Tamura
    How do I put this...?
[10:31] Tamura
    It made it suddenly feel a lot more real.
[10:37] Tamura
    At first, there's no sound or anything...
[10:40] Tamura
    Just a script, so you think
    of all the ways it could go.
[10:46] Tamura
    It sort of feels otherworldly in a way,
[10:51] Tamura
    but it gradually becomes more tangible,
[10:54] Tamura
    and something about the normal stuff...
[10:56] Tamura
    It makes me realize how otherworldly
    stories and commonplace stories
[11:00] Tamura
    are connected by certain things.
[11:03] Tamura
    That's something I thought.
[11:05] Tamura
    And that the things they have in
    common are simpler than you'd think.
[11:09] Tamura
    That was something that came
    to mind as I was reading it.
[11:13] Tamura
    I think the one that left the big
    impression was from the climax...
[11:13] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Lines that made an impression
[11:19] Tamura
    Where I talked about pubic hair.
[11:23] Tamura
    That's not something you usually
    say in front of so many people.
[11:26] Koji
    Right.
[11:30] Koji
    It's the kind of thing, as an elementary schooler, where you have to break out the dictionary...
[11:33] Tamura
    Yeah, exactly!
[11:34] Tamura
    You're right! When you're little, it's sort of...
[11:35] Koji
    Right?
[11:37] Koji
    "What are these characters?"
[11:38] Tamura
    You're like, "What is this?"
[11:40] Koji
    And there's a bit of a thrill to that.
[11:42] Koji
    That was part of the scene.
[11:42] Tamura
    Right, right.
[11:44] Tamura
    I think that most of the time,
    you say that in particular...
[11:49] Tamura
    And it comes out more relaxed.
    Whenever you talk about pubic hair.
[11:51] Koji
    Right.
[11:52] Tamura
    But it was like, "Pubes!"
[11:57] Koji
    It's because she's yelling it.
[11:58] Tamura
    Right. And it feels fantastic.
[12:01] Tamura
    That made a big impression.
[12:04] Taichi
    Did it feel good to say?
[12:06] Tamura
    It felt amazing!
[12:09] Tamura
    I recommend everybody try it.
[12:12] Taichi
    In the safety of your own home,
    shout how you keep a bear in your pubic hair.
[12:13] Tamura
    Bingo!
[12:15] Tamura
    I recommend it highly.
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN    The Director and
     Ekoda -chan's
    Naked Chat
SIGN    Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
SIGN    Tamurapan
SIGN    Episode 12's Director
SIGN    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Rinshi!!
    Ekoda-Chan:
    The Director
    and
    Ekoda-chan's
    Naked
    Chat
[12:23] Narrator
    In the first half, we discussed the unique
    challenges of the Ekoda-chan anime.
[12:28] Narrator
    In the second, we'll be hearing stories
    from when they were 24, like Ekoda-chan,
[12:32] Narrator
    along with their in-depth thoughts
    on the appeal of Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan anime.
SIGN    Reflecting on Age 24
[12:44] Koji
    That would've been
    right before I got married...
SIGN    Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
[12:44] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    When you were 24
[12:47] Tamura
    So young! Wow.
[12:50] Koji
    I think I preferred being with
    someone to being alone, essentially.
[12:55] Koji
    I've got a real craving
     for affection, I think,
[12:59] Koji
    and I think as a result of that,
    I've never felt a lot of profound loneliness.
[13:04] Tamura
    Because you know you don't
    want to be lonely, you avoid it?
[13:06] Koji
    Right, right.
[13:07] Koji
    Sort of the opposite of what you'd expect.
[13:08] Tamura
    That's an interesting way to turn out.
[13:09] Koji
    I really cherished my friendships,
     for example,
[13:14] Koji
    or maybe that I just pursued
    them aggressively.
[13:20] Koji
    But even when I was on my own,
    when I moved to Tokyo for example,
[13:25] Koji
    I didn't really feel that lonely.
[13:29] Koji
    That might not make a lot of sense.
[13:32] Koji
    And I don't really understand it all myself,
[13:35] Koji
    but I think I wasn't really
    in a rush when I was 24.
[13:39] Koji
    This was something we discussed earlier,
    because of how the episode opens.
[13:44] Koji
    I didn't ever have that feeling
    of getting left behind.
[13:49] Tamura
    Yours was more, "I'm only 24."
[13:50] Koji
    Plenty of time.
[13:52] Tamura
    Positive thinking!
[13:53] Koji
    Right, right!
[13:54] Koji
    Realizing that, "Oh, I guess some people
    feel a lot of pressure around then."
[13:59] Koji
    I think maybe women are
    under more stress about it.
[14:01] Koji
    I don't think men really experience
    the same expectations... not that I'm sure.
[14:05] Koji
    I mean, maybe in regards to employment.
[14:08] Tamura
    Right, got to get a job.
[14:08] Koji
    But other than that? 24 isn't much.
[14:12] Tamura
    I was... I think two years since
    I was out from university.
[14:19] Tamura
    I wasn't even Tamurapan at the time, yet.
[14:23] Koji
    Really?
[14:24] Tamura
    I think so. Maybe I was on the
    verge of discovering that identity...
[14:28] Tamura
    Like I could feel it coming on.
[14:29] Koji
    Maybe just the "Tamu" part.
[14:32] Tamura
    Just the "Tamu."
[14:34] Koji
    The "Rapan" part hadn't emerged yet.
[14:34] Tamura
    Right. Not quite the full Tamurapan yet.
[14:37] Tamura
    Sort of like I was still growing into myself.
[14:45] Tamura
    I wonder... In terms of how lonely I felt,
[14:52] Tamura
    I think I would say I'm more...
[14:56] Tamura
    I'm one of those people who feels
    lonelier the more people they deal with?
[15:02] Koji
    Right, right.
[15:02] Tamura
    Like, if you see someone, that's fine,
    but even when there are people around...
[15:10] Tamura
    You start thinking about how
    it is when they're not around.
[15:12] Koji
    You pull away mentally.
[15:13] Tamura
    Right, you pull yourself
    further and further out!
[15:16] Tamura
    I think that's how I was at
    the time, when I was 24.
[15:21] Tamura
    Although that part hasn't changed much.
[15:22] Koji
    Were you in much of a rush?
[15:23] Koji
    Or under pressure.
[15:23] Tamura
    A rush...
[15:24] Censor Bar
    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Did she feel pressured?
[15:26] Tamura
    Did I? I do think that I felt like
    I had to do something.
[15:31] Tamura
    But when I look back now,
[15:35] Tamura
    I felt strangely fine in a way
    I didn't quite understand.
[15:39] Tamura
    I can remember feeling that way.
[15:41] Tamura
    That's what I remember about being 24.
[15:44] Tamura
    Although now that I look back...
[15:46] Koji
    But in that sense, maybe
    the two of you are similar.
[15:48] Tamura
    You mean in terms of,
    "What do I do, what do I do?"
[15:52] Tamura
    But actually kind of brushing it off...
[15:58] Koji
    You do have the whole world going,
[16:00] Koji
    "Do you know what you
    want to do? Better find out!"
[16:03] Koji
    And they make it sound like you
    might be in trouble if you can't.
[16:08] Koji
    Right?
[16:09] Tamura
    I think so.
[16:10] Tamura
    Well, even then, I think I was fairly happy.
[16:15] Tamura
    When it comes down to it.
[16:16] Koji
    In spite of it all.
[16:17] Koji
    Even with all the trouble. Right.
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[16:20] Taichi
    If you were Ekoda-chan...
[16:20] Tamura
    I... wouldn't want to be Ekoda-chan, though.
[16:25] Tamura
    I mean, she has it hard!
[16:26] Koji
    That's a real pickle.
[16:27] Tamura
    Something about how lonely
    she is, on top of everything else.
[16:34] Tamura
    And if I was her... well...
[16:38] Koji
    I'd be more curious about
    how you end up like her.
[16:44] Tamura
    Good question.
[16:45] Koji
    Maybe it has to do with
    how we had specific ambitions.
[16:50] Tamura
    Oh, that is a good point.
[16:50] Koji
    That might be it..
[16:53] Koji
    Like for example, if you're like,
     "I'm gonna make anime!"
[16:56] Tamura
    Right, you've got a point.
[16:58] Koji
    I decided I wanted to be an
    animator in high school.
[17:00] Koji
    And in that sense, I never
    really faltered, so maybe...
[17:06] Koji
    Since I never really had to worry about
    things that didn't work out in the end.
[17:12] Tamura
    Oh, right. That's true.
[17:15] Tamura
    Not having a right fit...
[17:15] Koji
    I think that maybe it has to do with
    having a lot of potential interests.
[17:21] Koji
    It means there there are lots of lives
    where you might end up like that.
[17:25] Koji
    Like, "What if I had become a florist?"
[17:28] Koji
    "What would have happened
    if I became a baker?" and such.
[17:31] Koji
    You do always have that
    curiosity where you wonder
[17:34] Koji
    about how you'd end up
    in different circumstances.
[17:36] Koji
    I think everybody does.
[17:39] Koji
    Especially if you've already
    settled into one choice.
[17:39] Tamura
    Right.
[17:41] Koji
    You end up wondering what it would've
    been like doing something else.
[17:44] Koji
    That's part of it, I think.
[17:47] Tamura
    I think Ekoda-chan's...
    psychology, I guess you'd call it,
[17:52] Tamura
    I wouldn't want that.
[17:53] Koji
    It'd definitely be hard.
[17:56] Taichi
    And painful, even.
[17:56] Tamura
    It would.
[17:57] Tamura
    It might be hard to withstand.
[17:58] Koji
    Not the kind of thing you'd
    want to play around with.
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[18:06] Koji
    The different directors, for each episode...
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SIGN    Differences with other anime
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[18:10] Koji
    Plus the different actresses for the
    lead role. And different art styles.
[18:14] Koji
    I don't think there's ever been an anime
    like that, and it's pretty interesting.
[18:19] Tamura
    I think that with most anime,
[18:21] Tamura
    there's a sort of destination in mind.
[18:28] Tamura
    And because of that sort of security,
[18:30] Tamura
    you can watch all the trials and tribulations.
[18:33] Tamura
    Like how a character from Chibi
    Maruko can walk three thousand miles.
[18:36] Koji
    Because she won't die.
[18:37] Tamura
    Right, definitely!
[18:38] Taichi
    Since she's got the goal of
    meeting her mom or whatever.
[18:39] Tamura
    Exactly.
[18:40] Koji
    And you're not going to see a story where
    she dies right before the finish line.
[18:44] Tamura
    In comparison, Ekoda-chan...
[18:46] Tamura
    You can't tell what'll happen, and that's...
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[18:50] Tamura
    And that's kind of strange, for anime, I think.
[18:53] Koji
    True.
[18:56] Koji
    You get the feeling she's kind
    of wandering the wasteland.
[18:57] Tamura
    Right.
[18:58] Taichi
    She's got no goal, is the thing.
    Ekoda-chan doesn't have an ultimate goal.
[19:01] Tamura
    And isn't that kind of terrifying?
[19:04] Koji
    But a good thing about that is
    it makes her really flexible.
[19:06] Tamura
    You mean she can adapt?
[19:08] Koji
    I think part of it is she has
    to be, because it's funny.
[19:13] Tamura
    Like, she wouldn't manage otherwise?
[19:14] Koji
    I think that's how the world is.
    But even then, she is awkward at times.
[19:17] Koji
    Or maybe more like... she's got
    certain things she won't budge on.
[19:21] Koji
    Her own sort of code.
[19:24] Koji
    And that's part of what's
     interesting about her.
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SIGN    The appeal of Ekoda-chan
[19:26] Koji
    Well, I am a man, and so...
[19:29] Koji
    I think that you'd need to
    be a woman to get a full grasp
[19:32] Koji
    of what's truly great about Ekoda-chan.
[19:36] Koji
    But I think... I think a man's idea of...
[19:41] Koji
    How do I put this? There's
    the femininity that men think of,
[19:44] Koji
    and the femininity that women experience.
[19:47] Koji
    And the manga really gets across
    that idea of, "Oh, that's how it is?"
[19:52] Koji
    And I think that reading about
    that is really interesting,
[19:56] Koji
    and helps you get a glimpse of something
    you'd never encounter otherwise.
[20:01] Koji
    I think part of it is a lot of the adaptations
    I've worked have been by male creators,
[20:07] Koji
    so doing one drawn by a woman...
[20:11] Koji
    Is something that I think maybe helped me
    do something different from my usual work.
[20:18] Tamura
    I wonder if you'd call it love?
    There's this certain love...
[20:23] Tamura
    Or maybe the emotion is more like sympathy.
[20:27] Tamura
    Or that the love is for the setting instead...
[20:31] Tamura
    That love... or maybe it's
    a different emotion entirely.
[20:36] Koji
    There are a lot of different kinds of love.
[20:38] Tamura
    I'd say so! She does have her love affairs.
[20:41] Koji
    I see.
[20:42] Koji
    You see the love affairs she has.
[20:44] Koji
    But... I think there's also this...
[20:44] Koji
    Right.
[20:48] Tamura
    You can see how deep her love goes.
[20:52] Tamura
    That was something I thought
    from the first moment I saw her.
[20:54] Koji
    True.
[20:56] Koji
    Well, now that we've recorded the voices today,
    and it's starting to come together.
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[21:03] Koji
    But there's still animation to do,
[21:06] Koji
    so I'm going to keep working.
[21:08] Koji
    And with that in mind, well,
    this gave me a few ideas, too.
[21:13] Koji
    So I think I'm going to come out
    of this with a few upgrades.
[21:18] Koji
    And then you'll see those in
    the final product. I hope you like it.
[21:22] Tamura
    It really was a lot of fun,
[21:26] Tamura
    and that... working with the director today,
[21:31] Tamura
    the thought of that adding
    even more to the final version
[21:34] Tamura
    seems like it'd be really interesting.
[21:37] Tamura
    So that, this day in Ekoda-chan's life...
[21:41] Tamura
    Was kinda... the feeling that it
    was born out of our own lives,
[21:48] Tamura
    I think that's something to be glad about.
[21:51] Tamura
    It feels like we helped bring something
    to life, and that's a real treat.
[21:56] Taichi
    Thanks for coming.
[21:57] Tamura
    Of course.
[21:57] Koji
    Thanks for having us.
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[22:01] Narrator
    And that brings a close to the Director
    and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat.
SIGN    Sugii
    Gisaburo
SIGN    Shigino Akira
[22:06] Narrator
    A new Ekoda-chan, born from
    each of the twelve episodes.
SIGN    Mochizuki
    Tomomi
SIGN    Yonetani
    Yoshitomo
[22:10] Narrator
    Which Ekoda-chan was closest to your type?
SIGN    Takahashi
    Ryosuke
SIGN    Misawa Shin
[22:15] Narrator
    You know, there may be an Ekoda-chan
    in your life, that you're just not aware of.
SIGN    Kojima
    Masayuki
SIGN    Takahashi Takeo
SIGN    Nagahama Hiroshi
[22:21] Narrator
    Thanks for staying with us to the end!
SIGN    Kobayashi
     Osamu
[22:25] Narrator
    Until we meet again!
SIGN    Morimoto Koji
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN    The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN    Naked Chat
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN    Until she's ready
SIGN    Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
    Until she's ready
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    #3 Bookshelves
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