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SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN "In Between Morning and Night"
[00:07] Ekoda
Pluck.
[00:09] Ekoda
There's a theory that children are more
likely to survive plane crashes than adults.
[00:16] Boyfriend
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I know, I hear you.
[00:20] Ekoda
Apparently, their bodies are more supple,
their muscles more relaxed.
[00:24] Ekoda
Which means there's less chance
an impact will do serious damage.
[00:27] Ekoda
Or so they say.
[00:28] Boyfriend
Did you grow your hair out?
[00:30] Boyfriend
Huh? I told you, you should.
[00:33] Boyfriend
Chiyoko, I'm positive you'd
look better with long hair.
[00:36] Ekoda
If you just relax and hold still...
[00:40] Ekoda
something like this won't hurt... one bit.
[00:45] Boyfriend
Of course I'm not cheating on you.
[00:47] Ekoda
And won't do much damage.
[00:54] Ekoda
Caution
[01:02] Ekoda
So long...
[01:05] Ekoda
All I've been doing is waiting.
[01:07] Ekoda
Should I give up and find a new path?
[01:11] Ekoda
But if I give up now, all the time
I've spent waiting will be for nothing.
[01:12] Ekoda
Caution
[01:16] Ekoda
It doesn't matter how long it takes.
[01:18] Ekoda
One day, after I've won this war of attrition,
[01:20] Ekoda
my triumph will prove
that all this was worth it.
[01:24] Ekoda
As long as I keep believing that...
[01:26] Boyfriend
You know I love you.
[01:33] Boyfriend
And I won't cheat on you, okay?
[01:37] Ekoda
Chiyoko... I wish she wasn't in the picture.
[01:40] Ekoda
No, he's the real problem here.
[01:46] Ekoda
Thing is, if I start telling myself that,
[01:48] Ekoda
it renders hanging on
as long as I have meaningless.
[01:51] Boyfriend
Okay. I'll call you again later.
[01:53] Boyfriend
Yeah. See you.
[02:03] Ekoda
You wanna do it again?
[02:07] Boyfriend
I've got an early start tomorrow, so nah.
[02:10] Ekoda
Okay.
[02:20] Ekoda
If I face toward him,
it feels like I'm begging...
[02:24] Ekoda
But if I face away, it looks like I'm sulking.
[02:29] Ekoda
Lying like this feels like some kind of
desperate compromise, and that's pathetic.
[02:35] Ekoda
But... if I'm gonna be
totally honest with myself...
[03:32] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
This week, we unveil the director
of Episode 2: Sugii Gisaburo,
SIGN Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Park Romi-san!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
SIGN Episode 2's Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
[04:02] Narrator
What does it mean to be a woman?
And just who is Ekoda-chan?
[04:06] Narrator
They'll even talk about the
depth of the original manga!
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN What went through your head when you were
approached about working on the anime adaptation?
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[04:18] Sugii
To be honest, well...
SIGN Episode 2's Director
Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Park Romi
[04:20] Sugii
The Ekoda-chan manga wasn't even on my radar,
[04:26] Sugii
so when Kataoka-san contacted me about
directing, he brought along the first volume.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:30] Sugii
And as I was flipping through,
[04:33] Sugii
I couldn't help asking: "Why do you
want me for this adaptation?"
[04:40] Sugii
I didn't really understand why.
[04:42] Sugii
So I asked him directly:
[04:46] Sugii
"Kataoka-san, why'd you choose me for this?"
[04:48] Sugii
And he says to me, "Well, Ekoda-chan here..."
[04:54] Sugii
"The protagonist. I want to show
how she lives, as a woman."
[05:00] Sugii
"And I think you're the best
person to do that, Sugii-san."
[05:05] Sugii
So I agreed, even though I didn't
really understand what he meant.
[05:08] Sugii
That was how the
conversation went, wasn't it?
[05:11] Sugii
I honestly had no idea
why you wanted me for this.
[05:14] Sugii
Well, we'd actually worked
together once before.
SIGN Why did you choose Park Romi for the lead role?
[05:20] Sugii
On a show which had Maruyama-san as
producer. I call him Marutan.
[05:26] Sugii
And whenever he's involved,
he takes the reins.
[05:28] Sugii
So I didn't really have much input.
[05:32] Sugii
For the most part,
I let Maruyama-san handle things.
[05:36] Sugii
But seeing you working with him made me
want to work with you. That was it.
[05:42] Romi
Really?
[05:43] Sugii
For a really long time, I kept thinking:
[05:45] Sugii
"If the opportunity arises,
I'd like to work with Park-san."
[05:49] Sugii
And I happened to be working
with Maruyama-san again recently...
[05:52] Sugii
And I told him, "Well, if I do this,
I'd like to get Park-san."
[05:55] Sugii
And his response was, "Hey, great idea!"
[05:57] Romi
Really? Wow!
[05:59] Romi
That's great to hear.
[06:01] Sugii
That was where it began.
[06:02] Sugii
So if I'm being totally honest,
[06:05] Sugii
in order for me to actually direct this...
[06:09] Sugii
I was having a really hard time settling
on how I wanted to approach it.
[06:13] Sugii
So... and this is just my gut
talking, but Ekoda-chan...
[06:19] Sugii
Even putting aside how much
I wanted to work with you...
[06:23] Sugii
Something about her...
[06:25] Sugii
I feel like you and her
have something in common.
[06:30] Sugii
I just get that feeling, for some reason.
[06:32] Romi
Well, I wasn't really familiar
with Ekoda-chan beforehand,
SIGN What went through your head when
Director Sugii offered you the role?
[06:37] Romi
but when we first worked
together on a project,
[06:43] Romi
I really loved it.
[06:45] Romi
And I was really glad I'd gotten
the chance to work on it.
[06:51] Romi
So when you contacted me about Ekoda-chan,
[06:55] Romi
I was positive it was going to be
just as interesting as the time before,
[06:59] Romi
and I think the first thing I saw
were the storyboards, right?
[07:03] Romi
And those were already so, so interesting!
[07:06] Sugii
I see.
[07:07] Romi
I mean...
[07:08] Romi
a scene where she's plucking her eyebrows
and lining the hairs up on a tissue...
[07:12] Sugii
And that's how it starts.
[07:13] Romi
Right! But I found it really compelling.
[07:17] Romi
So after that, I went and read the manga...
[07:22] Romi
And I was like, "Huh?"
[07:23] Romi
"It has a story like this...
and it's told in four-panel strips?"
[07:28] Sugii
Right?
[07:29] Romi
It was a real shock.
[07:32] Romi
And honestly, I was super impressed.
[07:36] Romi
And the more I read,
the more interesting I found it,
[07:39] Romi
and I was really struck by
how candid Ekoda-chan was.
[07:44] Sugii
She's an admirable woman.
[07:46] Romi
Right.
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 2 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[07:52] Sugii
I was having such trouble
figuring out how to approach it,
SIGN Regarding the screenplay for
Episode 2 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[07:56] Sugii
but I happened to be in
contact with Okada Mari-san.
[07:58] Romi
Right.
[07:59] Sugii
She's a writer who does
a ton of work for anime,
[08:02] Sugii
and I asked her to write the screenplay.
[08:04] Romi
Right.
[08:07] Sugii
We didn't have many meetings.
[08:09] Sugii
And I thought an Ekoda-chan
monologue would work well.
[08:13] Sugii
I told her that all it really needed to do
was show things from her point of view.
[08:19] Sugii
So then, once the script was written...
[08:21] Sugii
Well, how should I put it?
[08:24] Sugii
"How on earth did you pull this off?"
[08:27] Sugii
It does such a good job of
adapting the source material,
[08:31] Sugii
but it makes the episode self-contained.
[08:35] Sugii
And I think if you haven't read
the original Ekoda-chan manga,
[08:42] Sugii
you might not appreciate
just how deep it can get.
[08:48] Sugii
So what I was worried about is...
SIGN Director Sugii's concerns about adapting
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" into an anime
[08:51] Sugii
Why does Ekoda-chan, y'know,
fall for such a free-wheeling guy?
[08:56] Sugii
I mean, she's waiting for Maa-kun to choose her.
And she's been waiting a long time.
[09:00] Romi
Right.
[09:01] Sugii
I thought the biggest question was,
"Why would she wait so long for him?"
[09:08] Sugii
With men and women... well...
[09:12] Sugii
It's strange how, sometimes,
no matter how clueless the guy is,
[09:15] Sugii
there are times where they have this...
[09:19] Sugii
How do I put it? There's a particular
type of kindness they show at times,
[09:23] Sugii
and women sometimes
subconsciously latch onto that.
[09:27] Sugii
Maa-kun doesn't realize he's doing it.
Even when he's talking to Chiyoko.
[09:31] Sugii
So, as she's listening to Maa-kun
talking to this other woman,
[09:36] Sugii
and he's being all sweet and loving
and showing that kindness...
[09:41] Sugii
Ekoda-chan instinctively realizes...
[09:45] Sugii
That's what she's attracted to.
She wouldn't wait for him otherwise.
[09:48] Sugii
I mean, he has another woman.
[09:48] Romi
Right.
[09:51] Romi
I guess the way she doesn't directly
confront him about it, but also kinda does.
SIGN What they have in common with Ekoda-chan
[09:58] Romi
It's like, she's sorta giving in, but at the
same time, she isn't at all, y'know?
[10:02] Romi
I think that right there is
pretty much what defines her.
[10:06] Romi
When I think about it from my perspective...
[10:09] Romi
There'll be times when I think
I'm doing something unexpected,
[10:13] Romi
but I'm just being totally predictable.
[10:15] Romi
So I think, maybe in those ways,
I'm kinda similar to Ekoda-chan.
[10:22] Romi
Like, the way she wasn't crying, but
a bead of sweat rolled down into her eye...
[10:27] Romi
There's something about that moment
that gets to the heart of her character.
[10:33] Romi
I honestly wasn't sure
what to do in that scene.
[10:36] Romi
I mean, if you get sweat in your eye, it stings,
[10:39] Romi
so I thought to myself,
"How much should I emphasize that?"
[10:43] Romi
"How strong should her reaction be?"
[10:46] Romi
You know how, in that scene,
Ekoda-chan's trying to act tough,
[10:51] Romi
but you can just tell
how she's actually feeling?
[10:53] Romi
I think that kind of thing
is what I relate to the most.
SIGN On how complicated it is to try to depict a character
as multifaceted as Ekoda-chan
[10:58] Sugii
The thing about the character of Ekoda
[11:01] Sugii
is that we want to bring
across how cute she is.
[11:06] Sugii
But in the monologue, it'd be bizarre
for her to talk about herself in a way
[11:11] Sugii
that suggests she finds herself cute, right?
[11:13] Sugii
I mean, in a conversation,
how you act can highlight that aspect,
[11:17] Sugii
but here, she's talking to herself.
[11:18] Romi
Right.
[11:19] Sugii
So today, we got you to do take after take,
[11:22] Sugii
which I can only apologize for...
[11:23] Romi
No, no, it's fine!
[11:25] Sugii
But when I realized how much difference
[11:26] Sugii
the fact she's talking to herself
made to the scene...
[11:31] Sugii
Sorry, I should've said something sooner.
[11:32] Romi
Oh, no, it's totally fine.
[11:35] Romi
The way the various scene
breaks interact is so interesting,
[11:39] Romi
and because of that, I leaned toward
reflecting that in the different takes.
[11:43] Romi
And when you were talking to me about
the essence of Ekoda-chan's character,
[11:48] Romi
I wasn't expecting this rough,
fuzzily-drawn appearance.
[11:54] Romi
And there was part of me that
wondered if that's how it should look.
[11:59] Romi
I kinda wanted to do
a more serious Ekoda-chan...
[12:03] Romi
And I couldn't shake that impression.
[12:07] Romi
So I was approaching it like,
"Here's how a woman would really act."
[12:10] Romi
And I think maybe because of that,
[12:11] Romi
the takes were heavier than necessary.
[12:12] Sugii
Oh, no, it worked well.
SIGN Sugii's approach to recording voice-overs
[12:13] Sugii
Fundamentally, after
a certain point in my career,
[12:19] Sugii
I stopped making specific
demands of the cast.
[12:23] Sugii
I like how, if you don't say anything,
[12:27] Sugii
the actors will read the script themselves,
and come up with their own take on it.
[12:30] Sugii
And if the animation side
makes too many demands,
[12:34] Sugii
those demands will be treated like rules,
so they can't add their own personal touches.
[12:39] Sugii
And ever since I realized that...
[12:42] Sugii
And maybe this makes it sound
like I just don't want to give direction,
[12:46] Sugii
but I tend to leave it to the actors.
[12:48] Sugii
And I think that's for the best.
SIGN After the break,
we'll ponder Ekoda-chan's life!!
[12:53] Sugii
I just realized something.
[12:57] Sugii
This is kind of a tough story to adapt.
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Episode 2's Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
It's one surprise after another!
[13:08] Narrator
Director Sugii and Park Romi-san
[13:10] Narrator
both admitted they were unsure
about their approach in the first half.
[13:14] Narrator
In the second half,
we drill down further,
[13:16] Narrator
and examine Ekoda-chan's outlook on life.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
Outlook on Life
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN What sex means to Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
[13:25] Sugii
The way people treat sex
throughout their lives...
[13:30] Sugii
Their values, and their opinions on it...
[13:34] Sugii
I mean, Ekoda-chan
sleeps around, doesn't she?
[13:36] Kataoka
Right. She does.
[13:38] Sugii
And that's... What's the right word?
[13:42] Sugii
I think it's terrific.
[13:44] Sugii
How, in spite of that, you
don't view her as lascivious.
[13:48] Sugii
And it's not like she has
a warped perspective.
[13:51] Sugii
I think it's because, for
women, it's sort of like...
[13:55] Sugii
Sex and, I guess, your outlook on life, maybe?
[13:59] Sugii
I mean, like, your identity...
They're completely separate.
[14:02] Sugii
And that...
[14:06] Sugii
That's a kind of controversial
way to look at sex.
[14:10] Kataoka
It's revolutionary.
[14:11] Sugii
Yeah. There was that Cuckoo movie...
[14:15] Both
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?
[14:16] Sugii
Yes, "One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest." That's it.
[14:19] Sugii
There's a part where the
protagonist's with this woman,
[14:21] Sugii
and in the same mental hospital,
there's this other guy...
[14:25] Sugii
And he offers to let his girl
sleep with this virgin.
[14:31] Sugii
When I saw that movie, I thought
the protagonist was remarkable.
[14:37] Sugii
That really opened my eyes
to the reality behind sex.
[14:43] Sugii
I mean, for the sake of this
man who hasn't had sex before...
[14:46] Sugii
he literally asks his girl,
"Hey, could you sleep with this guy?"
[14:52] Sugii
At the time, I thought, "Any man
who can do that is amazing."
[14:58] Sugii
And to me, that's similar
to Ekoda-chan's situation.
[15:02] Sugii
And it's why I think she's terrific. As a woman.
[15:08] Sugii
I mean, Maa-kun's just your average guy.
[15:10] Romi
Right.
[15:11] Sugii
So it means Ekoda-chan's
situation isn't out of the ordinary.
[15:15] Sugii
It's not like she's found Mr. Right.
[15:19] Kataoka
Yeah.
[15:20] Sugii
She's just in love with a loser.
[15:23] Sugii
And you know, sometimes, sex
is treated as something liberating.
[15:28] Sugii
This isn't like that.
[15:29] Romi
So true.
[15:30] Sugii
It's just a normal part of life.
[15:33] Sugii
And I think Ekoda-chan's way
of life... y'know, her lifestyle...
[15:40] Sugii
I think it might just be a societal thing.
[15:43] Sugii
This might be the future of how
men and women interact, you know?
[15:48] Sugii
I mean, I get the impression that, for women,
[15:52] Sugii
they don't get all pretentious
over sex, you know?
[15:56] Sugii
All this, "What exactly is a man?"
"What exactly is a woman?"
[15:59] Sugii
And, "What is sex, anyway?"
[16:02] Sugii
All of that gets addressed.
That's what makes this work so amazing.
[16:08] Romi
I think so, too.
SIGN What did you think of Ekoda-chan's lifestyle?
[16:10] Romi
I mean, it's really
understandable, for one thing,
[16:12] Romi
and well, it's sorta...
really cool, as well, y'know?
[16:17] Romi
And... how should I phrase this?
[16:20] Romi
There are things it touches on, like
how women can be motivated by emotion,
[16:25] Romi
but she's just... She's good
at keeping it together.
[16:28] Romi
I mean, she has her problems
and plenty of heartache, sure,
[16:32] Romi
but it's like, she has this inner strength,
[16:35] Romi
which makes you feel like
it's not dragging her down.
[16:38] Romi
It's amazing. On a human level, it's impressive.
[16:40] Kataoka
It's truly remarkable.
[16:42] Kataoka
I mean, I get the feeling that women
often get told they have to be strong...
[16:49] Kataoka
I think that might be what
Sugii-san noticed in her.
[16:51] Kataoka
Park-san, you give off that same strong vibe.
[16:54] Sugii
I think so.
[16:55] Ekoda
But Ekoda is weak, too!
[16:57] Both
Oh, you've got a point.
[16:59] Sugii
When her feelings get hurt...
[16:59] Romi
Right, exactly.
[17:01] Sugii
But it usually only comes
out when she's alone.
[17:03] Sugii
She'll get frustrated and do this...
[17:04] Romi
That's right.
[17:06] Romi
We have that in common!
[17:09] Romi
I think, for me, personally,
ever since I was young,
[17:14] Romi
when it comes to stuff like men,
and women, and aging...
[17:18] Romi
I never really let it bother me.
[17:19] Romi
I suppose it's the "Hey,
we're all the same" thing.
[17:23] Romi
So when it comes to that, I think...
[17:27] Romi
that's one thing I have in common with her.
[17:30] Romi
As time goes on, the story
sometimes gets complicated,
[17:35] Romi
but I think her character
is very progressive.
[17:39] Kataoka
Right.
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
and its depths
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Director Sugii's interpretation of Ekoda-chan
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[17:45] Sugii
Back during the planning phase,
it was honestly...
[17:49] Sugii
It felt like it'd be a real challenge.
[17:51] Sugii
"Has there ever been a show like this?"
[17:53] Sugii
So, in that sense, at first,
as a character designer...
[17:58] Sugii
I thought about going
for a more realistic, raw look.
[18:04] Sugii
You know, make it as realistic as I could,
in spite of it being a short-form show.
[18:09] Sugii
But then, Takinami-san's art...
[18:13] Sugii
When I took a proper look at it,
it's got this strong pop aesthetic.
[18:16] Romi
You're right.
[18:17] Sugii
There are elements of Andy Warhol in there.
[18:21] Sugii
She has a very pop art look about her.
[18:25] Sugii
And because of that,
I thought a more realistic style...
[18:30] Sugii
I started thinking it wouldn't
be very funny like that,
[18:32] Sugii
so I veered away from
that idea partway through.
[18:36] Sugii
But when it came to your acting, I didn't
want it to be exaggerated or "animefied."
[18:45] Sugii
I wanted a more natural performance.
[18:49] Sugii
I get the feeling that, as a director,
[18:52] Sugii
I've never had a project like this where I've
been so unsure which direction to go in.
[18:56] Sugii
And I honestly didn't know exactly what I was
aiming for, even while I was working on it.
SIGN Your thoughts going into the recording session
[19:01] Romi
Well, I was thinking how rare it was
[19:03] Romi
to have more staff present than actors.
[19:05] Sugii
Right.
[19:07] Romi
So something about that whole
setup was a bit intimidating,
[19:11] Romi
but the picture I had in my head was...
I didn't want to make it overly colorful.
[19:15] Romi
And I figured that's how I'd approach it.
[19:18] Romi
So I went for a much,
much starker delivery.
[19:22] Romi
And that maybe made my interpretation
more pensive than was ideal.
[19:26] Romi
So, after getting some feedback,
and doing a few different takes,
[19:30] Romi
I think the tone changed
a bit as we went along.
[19:33] Sugii
I think, just looking at the lines and
the storyboards for this episode...
[19:41] Sugii
There's a real, for want of
a better word, literary feel to it.
[19:43] Romi
Yeah, I agree.
[19:44] Sugii
Which probably explains why
you voiced her the way you did.
[19:47] Sugii
But even so,
[19:50] Sugii
considering how "pop"
the source material is,
[19:53] Sugii
it needed an air of lightness to it, too.
[19:55] Sugii
And I realize asking, "Could you make it
lighter?" when talking about plane crashes
[19:59] Sugii
sounds kind of unreasonable.
[20:00] Romi
Oh, no, no...
[20:02] Sugii
But I never realized just how hard
[20:02] Romi
I didn't think it was that odd.
[20:04] Sugii
doing a monologue could be.
SIGN Your thoughts after the recording session
[20:06] Romi
The fact that it's such
a short piece of animation,
[20:10] Romi
but there are so many people there, thinking,
"What should we do about Ekoda-chan?"
[20:14] Romi
"What should we do with this project?"
[20:17] Romi
Being able to work in an environment
like that was really wonderful.
[20:22] Romi
I'm the kind of actress
who wants to do lots of takes,
[20:27] Romi
so the thought of our time coming
to an end so quickly made me sad.
[20:30] Romi
I just wanted to keep doing
two, maybe three takes.
[20:33] Romi
And I was really appreciative
that I got the chance to do
[20:36] Romi
a few different readings of the lines.
[20:40] Romi
It feels like, compared to works with bigger
casts, or stories on a much larger scale,
[20:47] Romi
this is so much more intimate, yeah.
[20:48] Sugii
It is.
[20:49] Romi
So I wanted to have more of a back-and-forth
with the staff on my approach to the role.
[20:56] Romi
And because of that, I think
[20:58] Romi
it's a performance I'll always remember.
[21:02] Sugii
That makes sense.
[21:04] Sugii
And I let you handle
all the finishing touches.
[21:07] Romi
"If you wanna give me some
direction, just let me know!"
[21:09] Romi
"I'll do it! Seriously, I'll do whatever!"
[21:11] Romi
I mean, usually, when recording...
[21:12] Sugii
It's your role, though.
[21:13] Sugii
And when you have an actress
as good as you are, Park-san...
[21:16] Park
I'm not that good!
[21:17] Sugii
I honestly started wondering,
"Should we really be doing so many takes?"
[21:21] Romi
I wouldn't say that.
[21:21] Sugii
It felt like maybe we were splitting hairs.
[21:23] Sugii
But, in spite of that, I had a really
strong image of where to take it.
[21:27] Sugii
But I didn't want to say, "Do it like this,"
and ask for another take.
[21:32] Sugii
So even though I felt like
you were finding it difficult...
[21:36] Sugii
I mean, that's a first for me.
[21:38] Sugii
A lot of the time, you don't want too much
forethought going into production.
[21:41] Sugii
In animation, you need
to make snap decisions.
[21:46] Sugii
No matter what issues you encounter, you
need to resolve them as quickly as possible.
[21:50] Sugii
It's a bad idea to keep the
actors waiting, for instance,
[21:52] Sugii
or indeed, any of the other staff...
[21:55] Sugii
Making short work of plotting out the
best path is meant to be the director's job.
[22:00] Sugii
But today? I wasn't able
to make snap decisions.
[22:04] Romi
For the first time?
[22:05] Sugii
For the first time.
[22:06] Romi
I got to be the first!
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN Director
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VA
[22:17] Narrator
an unexpected character
design choice has
[22:20] Narrator
the actress playing Ekoda-chan
in Episode 3 reeling!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:23] Narrator
What on earth was the director thinking?
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:26] Narrator
Look forward to it!
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SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
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SIGN Eyes
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