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SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Director:
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
SIGN Tales from New-Burg
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Hamburg
Steak
Specialty
Restaurant
[00:18] Clerk
Welcome.
[00:20] Clerk
One A-Set: "The Mexican," coming right up.
[00:22] O
Hey, you!
[00:24] Ekoda
Yeah, what?
[00:25] O
Look, all I'm trying to say is,
music is entertainment.
[00:29] Clerk
Here you are.
[00:30] O
Oh, thanks.
[00:31] O
See, my plan is to hit the big time by next year.
SIGN That's what you said last year.
[00:35] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:37] O
Anyway, what have you been up to lately?
[00:39] Ekoda
Oh, just work, doing this and—
[00:40] O
Just like a young lady should!
[00:41] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:42] O
This is what I'm talkin' about.
[00:44] O
Entertainment is the
dog and the cat. You dig?
[00:47] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:49] Customer
Thanks, it was delicious.
[00:49] Ekoda
That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
[00:50] Clerk
Thank you for coming.
[00:51] O
If anything, it helped me
realize that Bowska is music.
[00:53] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat!
[00:54] O
And I've got nothing
but gratitude for the fans!
SIGN Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
[00:57] ---
Cat!
[01:00] Ekoda
You know, Ohtsuki-kun... You're a funny guy.
[01:03] O
See, I'm Bowska, and you're Juliette!
[01:05] O
No, more like Kana-chan.
[01:07] O
And there'll be a Takagi Boo-san
who gains legendary status,
SIGN ...well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
[01:09] O
and that's how it oughta be.
[01:11] Ekoda
Can I get a beer?
[01:12] Clerk
Coming right up.
SIGN A Night for Shoegazing
SIGN Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Nakki
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
[01:36] Other customer
Huh? You're drinking, Seiji-san?
[01:39] Seiji
Thank you very much!
[01:41] Nakki
Saying "rock" is fine,
but that encompasses so much.
[01:44] Nakki
I mean, you've got punk
and new wave, of course...
[01:48] Nakki
Then, out on the fringes, you've
got stuff like shoegaze, you know?
[01:55] Nakki
I bet you're thinking,
"What the heck is shoegaze?"
[01:57] Nakki
And I've asked that question myself...
[02:00] Nakki
But the thing is, you can't
really talk about shoegaze
[02:02] Nakki
if you don't have a good grasp on the history
of music, or the various epochs of rock...
SIGN Deathbed Confessions
[02:07] Nakki
See, in England, they had
something called psychedelic rock,
[02:10] Nakki
and that's where it all started.
[02:12] Nakki
Noisy guitars and pop melodies.
That's basically what it is.
[02:16] Nakki
I think, for me, it started with
My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless,"
[02:20] Nakki
but then, you've also got techno,
death metal, neo-acoustic, bossa nova...
[02:23] Ekoda
Once again,
[02:23] Ekoda
I've picked up a worthless guy...
[02:24] Nakki
I went through phases of listening to
all of them, and I think I needed to.
[02:24] Clerk
See you next time, Seiji-san!
[02:27] Seiji
Thank you very much!
[02:28] Nakki
Just like how I needed to
read Kamijo Atsushi's "To-y."
SIGN One Early Afternoon in Ekoda
SIGN Starring Ekoda-chan
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Koshoji
SIGN Music By
SIGN Sakurai Kenta
[02:45] Ekoda
Okay! Ready to go.
SIGN ...Ekoda-chan...
SIGN who lives in Ekoda
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 11: Kobayashi Osamu,
SIGN Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Koshoji Megumi.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
SIGN Episode 11's Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
[04:02] Narrator
We've also got an amazing
group of guest musicians,
[04:05] Narrator
with a lively discussion from
the episode wrap party!
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[04:18] Osamu
Cheers!
SIGN Shot with the co-operation of
[04:18] Cast
Cheers!
[04:21] Kosho
Good work!
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[04:24] Osamu
I'm Kobayashi Osamu, and
I directed this episode of the anime.
SIGN Episode 11's Director
Kobayashi Osamu
[04:30] Osamu
In the past, I've directed "Beck"
and "Paradise Kiss," among others.
[04:34] Osamu
Stoked to be here.
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
Koshoji Megumi
[04:35] Megumi
I played the role of Ekoda-chan.
[04:38] Megumi
I'm Koshoji Megumi of "Maison
book girl" fame. It's nice to be here.
[04:45] Kenji
Oh, um, well, I played the role of Ohken...
[04:50] Kenji
Nakki and me are in a band
together called Tokusatsu.
[04:53] Kenji
I'm Ohtsuki Kenji. Thanks for having me.
SIGN Ohtsuki Kenji
[04:58] Osamu
Ohken!
[04:59] Kenji
Thanks.
[05:00] Nara
I'm Narasaki. I played the role of Nakki.
SIGN Music
[05:06] Nara
Ohken and me are in a band called Tokusatsu.
[05:07] Ohken
Yeah, we are.
[05:09] Ohken
Good to be here.
[05:11] Osamu
Nakki!
[05:14] Kenta
Well, I did some of the
background music on this episode.
[05:19] Kenta
I'm Maison book girl's...
uh, the band Koshoji over here is in...
[05:25] Kenta
I'm Maison book girl's
producer, Sakurai Kenta.
SIGN Music
Sakurai Kenta
[05:29] Kenta
Great to be here.
[05:31] Osamu
Sakurai!
[05:34] Osamu
Now, looking at Ohken himself, Ohtsuki-san...
[05:34] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Thoughts on working on Ekoda-chan
[05:35] Kenji
Right.
[05:37] Osamu
You played a character
who was pretty much you...
[05:39] Osamu
Although, I was the one who wrote your lines,
[05:41] Kenji
Right.
[05:43] Kenji
Right.
[05:44] Osamu
so he was kinda you, but not completely.
[05:46] Kenji
That sums it up.
[05:47] Osamu
What did you think about that?
[05:49] Kenji
Well, y'know... the art...
[05:53] Kenji
When I saw the character design,
[05:55] Kenji
he reminded me of myself 15 years ago.
[05:58] Osamu
That's a good point.
[06:00] Kenji
Back when I was rocking it
with Nakki in Tokusatsu,
[06:04] Kenji
every now and again.
[06:05] Osamu
Right.
[06:05] Kenji
And I was like, "Whoa, man!"
[06:07] Kenji
Because the character's got long hair,
[06:10] Kenji
and cracked makeup here...
[06:10] Osamu
Oh, right! Right.
[06:12] Osamu
You mean, his appearance.
[06:13] Kenji
So he looks even younger,
like how I did in the late '90s,
[06:17] Kenji
all the way up to the early 2000s,
when I was gaining more notoriety.
[06:21] Kenji
And that was nice to see.
[06:23] Osamu
Yeah! And I drew it.
[06:26] Megumi
I was a bit nervous about
whether I could do it or not,
[06:29] Megumi
but since I already knew
the director here...
[06:34] Megumi
He's even come to a few of our shows.
[06:38] Osamu
I love them.
[06:38] Megumi
And he's passionate about our music.
[06:40] Osamu
I love you, too, Sakurai.
[06:42] Megumi
Right, so I was pretty sure...
[06:44] Megumi
it'd be a good project to work on.
[06:45] Osamu
You felt reassured?
[06:49] Megumi
It's my first time doing anything like this,
but since it was with someone I know,
[06:53] Megumi
I didn't mind jumping on board.
[06:55] Osamu
I see.
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 11 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[06:56] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Reasons for working on "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[07:01] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[07:02] Megumi
When I heard plans were in place,
[07:03] Megumi
I read the first volume of the manga.
[07:05] Osamu
Right, I sent it over.
[07:06] Osamu
The story I wrote is based
on panels from that one.
[07:08] Megumi
Right.
[07:10] Osamu
So I gave her a copy and
told her to check it out.
[07:12] Megumi
So I got it, and read the parts in question...
[07:17] Osamu
The part with Ohken was
almost lifted wholesale.
[07:20] Osamu
Talking about making his debut on
a major label, and getting his big break...
[07:25] Osamu
That was all from the manga.
[07:26] Kenji
I see.
[07:28] Osamu
And hearing you deliver that line
adds another layer to the joke.
[07:32] Osamu
I mean, how many decades has it been?
[07:33] Kenji
My big break came 30 years ago, so...
[07:37] Osamu
But next year...
[07:38] Megumi
I imagined that was what you were
like before getting your big break.
[07:42] Megumi
Reading Ekoda-chan,
I felt like Ekoda-chan and myself
[07:46] Megumi
were pretty different people,
[07:49] Megumi
but I could see a lot of people
I know, or even friends of mine,
[07:56] Megumi
reflected in how she acts, like
"Oh, she's just like Ekoda-chan."
[08:00] Megumi
And that made me feel like
I understood her better while reading it.
[08:05] Megumi
That thought kinda informed
how I ended up voicing her.
[08:10] Megumi
That was my takeaway.
[08:11] Osamu
You were able to get a feel for
the realism of the character, yeah?
[08:14] Osamu
How people like her are out there,
and how you recognized people in her.
[08:17] Megumi
Oh, yeah, I definitely recognized her.
[08:20] Osamu
Most people don't go: "Hey, you!"
[08:22] Megumi
They certainly don't. That's true.
[08:24] Osamu
But she just responds with: "Yeah, what?"
[08:26] Megumi
Right!
[08:26] Osamu
What did you think about that line?
[08:29] Megumi
Well, after saying it...
[08:31] Megumi
Let's see, I think it's a case of...
[08:33] Megumi
Well, your version of Ekoda-chan is
[08:36] Megumi
the really laid-back type, isn't she?
[08:39] Osamu
Yeah. Sounds about right.
[08:41] Megumi
That was the impression
I got and... I'm not sure.
[08:47] Megumi
I don't really think I'm all that laid-back.
[08:51] Megumi
I mean, maybe I am,
but I don't think of myself that way.
[08:53] Osamu
Cool, sure, but maybe not laid-back.
[08:56] Megumi
So I think if someone said, "Hey, you!" at me,
I'd probably go, "Hey, you!" right back.
[09:00] Kenji
That seems like what someone
who's laid-back would say back, though.
[09:04] Megumi
I guess so!
[09:05] Kenji
Right? That's pretty laid-back.
[09:05] Nakki
I'm not sure.
[09:07] Megumi
Is that what it is?
[09:08] Osamu
Laid-back...
[09:09] Megumi
Am I laid-back?
[09:09] Kenji
Maybe it's more like... easygoing?
[09:11] Megumi
Ah, easygoing, yeah.
[09:12] Megumi
So because of that, I imagined
her as this cool, laid-back chick.
[09:19] Kenji
Dubbing voices is just...
I mean, getting the timing right...
[09:23] Kenji
I was clueless.
[09:24] Osamu
You had to do a few takes.
[09:25] Kenji
Oh, for sure!
[09:27] Kenji
It was just... It made me realize
how amazing voice actors are.
[09:31] Osamu
I was impressed with your timing.
[09:33] Kenji
I dunno...
[09:34] Osamu
The "dog and the cat" part.
[09:37] Kenji
I played a villain in "Kamen
Rider" once, and I had to...
[09:43] Kenta
You get around.
[09:44] Kenji
Well, they had battle scenes, you know?
[09:47] Osamu
Oh, that's iki-shibai! "Voice grunting."
[09:49] Osamu
That's called iki-shibai.
[09:49] Kenji
Iki-shibai, huh?
[09:51] Osamu
Like when you're fighting...
[09:52] Kenji
Right.
[09:55] Kenji
Yeah, just like that!
[09:55] Osamu
Those kinds of noises.
[09:56] Kenji
That was really tough!
[09:58] Kenta
Oh, I get it. The "iki" part of
"iki-shibai" means "breathing."
[10:02] Osamu
Right, it's all about breathing.
[10:04] Osamu
It happens a lot in anime.
[10:05] Kenta
Ah, I see.
[10:06] Kenji
It's seriously hard.
[10:08] Osamu
There's a story behind why
I asked Koshoji-san to act in this.
[10:13] Megumi
Oh, yeah. A story—
[10:14] Osamu
When Getters-san said...
[10:17] Megumi
So there's this famous fortune-teller
called Getters Iida-san,
[10:23] Megumi
and we were appearing at an event together,
[10:26] Megumi
so he ended up reading my fortune.
[10:30] Osamu
And then?
[10:30] Megumi
Well, he said... uh...
[10:32] Megumi
It'd be a good idea for me to go into acting.
[10:35] Osamu
It was foretold.
[10:37] Megumi
And I think you caught wind of it.
[10:38] Osamu
Right.
[10:39] Megumi
But even though he'd said that,
[10:41] Megumi
I wasn't so sure, so I told you,
and you brought up voice acting.
[10:45] Osamu
I asked her if she wanted to do it.
[10:47] Megumi
Right, right. There and then.
[10:48] Osamu
And you agreed straight away.
[10:50] Osamu
So it was settled in that moment,
and you became Ekoda-chan.
[10:52] Megumi
Really? Thanks!
[10:54] Megumi
It was a lot of fun.
[10:56] Osamu
Nakki, you also played a you
that wasn't really you.
SIGN Narasaki-san's first experience doing voice-overs
[11:01] Osamu
And it's funny, because you would never
talk about shoegaze, but the character does.
[11:05] Osamu
But there was an element of you
in there. Art-wise, at least.
[11:08] Osamu
What did you think about playing him?
[11:10] Nakki
Well, it was my first time acting,
and I think I've caught the acting bug.
[11:16] Osamu
I knew it! I thought you would!
[11:18] Nakki
I wanted to flex my acting muscles.
[11:20] Osamu
You sent over a little sample
beforehand that was very voice actor-y.
[11:25] Nakki
Well, I was practicing,
and I sent you the results...
[11:27] Nakki
And then, you told me
[11:28] Nakki
I needed to sound more normal.
[11:29] Osamu
Not my exact words.
[11:30] Kenta
Something I like about
Nakki-san is, he's got a cute side.
[11:33] Kenta
I've always thought that.
Like, how he's always practicing...
[11:37] Kenta
I really like how diligent you are.
[11:40] Megumi
He's lost for words!
[11:42] Osamu
But what did you think after doing it?
[11:44] Osamu
I know I gave you a bit of direction.
[11:46] Nakki
Oh, yeah, it was fun.
[11:47] Nakki
Yeah, I think this might lead to me
taking more and more voice-acting jobs.
[11:52] Nakki
Let me know if you need anyone.
[11:54] Osamu
I remember Sakurai-kun sent me a message,
[11:57] Kenta
Right.
[11:58] Osamu
telling me about what a great job you did.
[12:00] Osamu
And it really was a super job.
[12:03] Osamu
That's because, from
a professional perspective,
[12:05] Osamu
I wasn't looking for something
that sounded too rehearsed.
[12:10] Osamu
"Well, ya know what I think?"
[12:12] Kenta
I didn't really want a run-of-the-mill
[12:12] Kenta
That kind of finely-honed take.
[12:14] Kenta
voice-acting performance.
[12:16] Nakki
Right.
[12:16] Osamu
I wanted it to sound natural,
[12:18] Osamu
but not to the point
where it was really loose.
[12:21] Osamu
And Nakki was able to do that, walking the
tightrope between too clunky and too slick.
[12:28] Kenta
Right.
[12:29] Osamu
Right?
[12:29] Kenta
I think, normally...
[12:31] Kenta
You get situations like this sometimes,
[12:33] Kenta
where we go out for drinks,
every now and then,
[12:38] Kenta
and in situations like that, it's a bit like...
[12:41] Kenta
You get a taste of Nakki-san's...
Well, his great conversational tone, I guess?
[12:45] Kenta
That's how I think of it.
[12:47] Kenta
And I think it came out in
the episode, which is great.
[12:52] Osamu
Right?
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 11's Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
[12:59] Narrator
In the first half, things were lively,
with stories from the recording,
[13:03] Narrator
and insights into the casting.
[13:05] Narrator
In the second half, we'll hear about the
attention to detail that goes into the music,
[13:08] Narrator
and about the locations
depicted in the anime.
SIGN Thoughts on reading the
script for the first time?
[13:15] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Thoughts on reading the script?
[13:20] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[13:20] Megumi
When I first read the script...
[13:22] Osamu
You saw the storyboards first.
[13:23] Megumi
Oh, that's right.
[13:25] Megumi
The thing with the art is, instead of
how Ekoda-chan looks in the manga...
[13:31] Osamu
Yeah?
[13:32] Megumi
Which I read, Kobayashi-san,
[13:33] Osamu
Right, right.
[13:35] Megumi
when you sent it to me...
[13:37] Megumi
But the art in the storyboards,
instead of looking like Ekoda-chan...
[13:41] Megumi
She looked a bit like me, I thought.
[13:43] Osamu
My first sketch was basically you.
[13:45] Megumi
Oh, I see now.
[13:46] Osamu
Wasn't easy making her look like Ekoda-chan.
[13:48] Megumi
And you know, as I was thinking that...
[13:53] Osamu
I mixed you two together.
[13:56] Megumi
And that somehow made it
[13:57] Megumi
easier to get into the role.
[13:59] Osamu
I see.
[14:00] Osamu
Instead of it being a totally
different person,
[14:03] Osamu
it was more like an alternate
version of myself.
[14:06] Osamu
That was how it came across to me.
[14:08] Osamu
That's a great way of putting it.
[14:10] Megumi
Is it?
[14:10] Osamu
But you're not usually
a voice actress, are you?
[14:14] Megumi
You're right.
[14:14] Osamu
And people might wonder why
I didn't cast seasoned voice actors,
[14:17] Osamu
and I was the one who
asked you all to do this...
[14:21] Osamu
I wanted it to sound like something you
wouldn't get if you used the usual suspects.
[14:26] Osamu
And then, we have Nakki,
[14:28] Osamu
who's like "I can totally do this,"
and sounding like a proper voice actor.
[14:32] Osamu
And he could totally pull that off.
[14:33] Osamu
But what Sakurai-kun mentioned,
[14:35] Osamu
his normal speaking voice
was what I was really after.
[14:39] Sakurai
Oh, I see.
[14:41] Osamu
For Ohken, I mean, he's
a consummate entertainer...
[14:43] Kenta
Right.
[14:44] Osamu
So I just wanted him to be entertaining.
[14:47] Osamu
And it's the same with you, Koshoji-san.
[14:49] Osamu
I wanted it to be good,
and not just "good for voice-acting."
[14:52] Osamu
I wanted something different.
[14:55] Osamu
That's why I wanted you
to put your own mark on it.
[15:00] Osamu
And that's exactly what
you did, so it's all good.
[15:04] Kenji
I lack some kind of fundamental skill
when it comes to reading scripts,
[15:08] Kenji
so... I mean, I've had cameos
on TV shows and in movies before,
[15:13] Kenji
but voice scripts are different, right?
They're not written in prose.
[15:18] Kenji
And there's stuff I don't
understand with the drawings...
[15:21] Osamu
Did I show you the
storyboards first this time?
[15:24] Kenji
Did you?
[15:25] Osamu
Before the script?
[15:25] Kenji
I remember seeing New-Burg.
[15:29] Kenji
I thought that was interesting.
[15:30] Osamu
We can get back to that later!
[15:32] Kenji
I think this is a case where...
[15:35] Kenji
I mean, this is something I've learned since
doing Zetsubou-sensei and meeting Nakki,
[15:40] Kenji
but in terms of anime, I'm from
the "Inakappe Taisho" generation.
[15:44] Osamu
The "Buh why?" guy?
[15:45] Kenji
Yeah, like "Hakushon Daimao." The old stuff.
[15:47] Kenji
So I had no idea anime had become
so sharp-looking, with such an edge to it.
[15:54] Osamu
Especially this episode, since
my version delves into subcultures.
[15:57] Kenji
So I thought, since we were going for edgy,
[16:01] Kenji
I thought, instead of trying
to memorize the script,
[16:04] Kenji
I'd just capitalize on the
mood in the booth.
[16:07] Osamu
Of course.
[16:07] Kenji
I thought that was more what you wanted.
[16:10] Osamu
Since it's in New-Burg.
[16:10] Kenji
Right, that's where we were.
[16:12] Nakki
I had quite a few lines...
[16:18] Nakki
So I thought I probably needed to practice.
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[16:23] Kenta
Something that came up early was...
[16:26] Kenta
I was asked... by the director,
Kobayashi-san, no less,
[16:32] Kenta
to make the music a bit like
an advertisement for Maison book girl.
[16:37] Megumi
Like it was promotional?
[16:38] Osamu
I specifically wanted the music to sound
[16:39] Kenta
You kept asking for it to be more like that.
[16:40] Osamu
like something from the band!
[16:42] Kenta
For it to sound like Maison book girl.
[16:44] Osamu
I wanted it to sound modern.
[16:46] Kenta
And well, since that was what you wanted,
[16:50] Kenta
I reworked the music.
[16:52] Osamu
Right. And then, it was perfect.
[16:52] Kenta
And then... Oh, thank you.
[16:55] Megumi
In the reworked version of the music,
[16:57] Megumi
there's a bit where I'm humming.
[16:58] Osamu
Right.
[16:59] Kenta
I felt like I'd heard that
melody somewhere before.
[17:02] Megumi
Yeah, it's actually a "book girl" song.
[17:05] Osamu
I didn't get the feeling
that you were nervous.
[17:08] Megumi
Well... I don't think I was.
[17:11] Osamu
You're probably used to mics.
[17:12] Megumi
Well, y'know, recording vocals
for songs normalizes it for me.
[17:19] Megumi
But I wear headphones when I do vocals.
[17:22] Megumi
This was just a mic
[17:24] Megumi
sitting in front of me.
[17:26] Osamu
Right, right.
[17:26] Megumi
And I was alone in this huge, well-lit room.
[17:28] Osamu
It's a different vibe.
[17:30] Megumi
And it felt a lot more
like acting than singing.
[17:34] Osamu
Yeah, yeah.
[17:34] Megumi
I mean, when it comes to singing,
[17:36] Megumi
you're still recording your voice...
[17:38] Osamu
Right, right.
[17:39] Megumi
But I could tell there was a difference
between reading a script and acting.
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Tales about a "special" location!
[17:46] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
[17:51] Osamu
I think maybe the most unique part
about my episode of Ekoda-chan,
SIGN What's this "New-Burg" place mentioned in the script?
[17:51] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
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The Director
and
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[17:57] Osamu
is that it features real locations.
[18:02] Osamu
That's a bit of an oddity, I think.
[18:05] Osamu
Plus, Nakki and Ohken, who are also in it,
[18:09] Osamu
have some history with these places.
[18:12] Osamu
One example is New-Burg.
[18:14] Kenji
Oh, man, New-Burg!
Let me tell you about New-Burg...
[18:17] Kenji
I used to go there all the time
when I was younger.
[18:19] Kenji
New-Burg is...
[18:21] Osamu
Have you—
[18:21] Nakki
I went there yesterday.
[18:23] Osamu
Really?
[18:24] Osamu
The Mexican steak.
[18:26] Kenji
Oh, the Mexican!
[18:27] Osamu
That's my favorite.
[18:27] Kenji
Yeah, yeah! I like the standard, too.
[18:29] Osamu
It's so good.
[18:29] Kenta
New-Burg came up a lot...
[18:31] Kenji
The double, too.
[18:32] Kenta
I think I might be the only one
who doesn't know what it is.
[18:36] Megumi
I don't, either.
[18:37] Kenta
You don't?
[18:38] Kenta
Yeah, I didn't think you knew.
[18:39] Kenji
We got swept up in the moment!
[18:41] Kenta
So could someone explain
what this New-Burg place is?
[18:45] Kenji
It's this place in Koenji, near the entrance
to the shopping area on the main street...
[18:52] Osamu
If you go down from
the park, it's on the left.
[18:54] Kenji
Right.
[18:54] Kenji
When I was went regularly,
it was around 380 yen a steak...
[18:57] Osamu
Very affordable.
[18:58] Osamu
I think it's around 500 now.
[18:59] Kenta
Hang on a second. You still haven't—
[19:01] Megumi
What kind of place is it?
[19:02] Everyone
Oh, it's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
[19:04] Osamu
It's "New-Burg" 'cause
it gets new steaks a lot.
[19:06] Kenji
Right!
[19:07] Kenta
Okay, that wasn't very clear before.
[19:09] Kenji
You get some rice on a plate.
[19:11] Kenta
Right.
[19:12] Kenji
And another plate with a Hamburg
steak, with plenty of sauce on it.
[19:15] Kenji
And you get pasta, and mixed vegetables.
[19:20] Kenji
And the finishing touch is a fried egg.
[19:23] Osamu
Right.
[19:23] Osamu
It's so good!
[19:25] Megumi
That was the one you appeared in?
[19:27] Osamu
Right, the one in Koenji.
[19:29] Osamu
It's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
[19:30] Megumi
I didn't realize that!
[19:31] Osamu
Great steaks.
[19:31] Megumi
So that's what kind of place it was.
[19:33] Kenji
What was the name of the other place?
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[19:36] Osamu
Oh, that's a bar called Tres Tres.
[19:39] Osamu
It's kind of a rock bar.
[19:40] Kenji
Do you have a bottle reserved there?
[19:42] Nakki
Oh, no, I don't.
[19:45] Kenji
I would've thought...
[19:46] Nakki
Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.
[19:48] Kenji
I see.
[19:49] Kenji
But y'know, it's a tiny place.
[19:51] Kenji
So is it the kinda place you just go
and get into conversations?
[19:55] Megumi
With people you don't know?
[19:58] Osamu
Well, with Tres Tres, it's just the bar.
[20:02] Osamu
So when I go, I pick the brains
of the young kids there.
[20:06] Nakki
I met the director for "Gamera," Higuchi...
[20:09] Osamu
Shin-chan.
[20:10] Nakki
Right, at a bar in Golden Gai.
[20:12] Osamu
That was at Plastic, though.
[20:14] Nakki
Right.
[20:15] Osamu
She's doing her best, y'know?
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[20:18] Osamu
Do you see yourself in her?
[20:19] Megumi
Do I seem like her?
[20:20] Osamu
You try your best.
[20:21] Megumi
Oh, that part.
[20:22] Megumi
I will say, she seems like the type
who, even if you go out with her,
[20:26] Megumi
you won't end up marrying her.
[20:29] Osamu
So you'd love her and leave her?
[20:32] Megumi
No, I mean more how she doesn't
say what she really thinks.
[20:35] Osamu
Oh, true.
[20:36] Osamu
True.
[20:36] Megumi
So I get the feeling
[20:38] Megumi
she'd be too considerate,
[20:39] Megumi
and that'd lead to distance.
SIGN Thoughts on today
[20:41] Megumi
Normally, I don't get to talk in a relaxed
environment with all of you like this,
[20:48] Megumi
so... this was a lot of fun.
[20:50] Osamu
I had so much fun, I got drunk.
[20:52] Osamu
Aw, yeah. Getting hammered is fun, yeah.
[20:56] Kenji
You know, something that really
shocked me about this shoot...
[21:03] Kenji
is the cameras. There's... one...
[21:05] Kenji
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine...
[21:09] Kenji
Nine cameras!
[21:10] Osamu
That's crazy!
[21:12] Kenji
This seems more like a one cellphone
camera kind of arrangement!
[21:15] Kenji
Nine cameras?!
[21:16] Osamu
They could've done it with three!
[21:17] Kenji
Nine cameras... for this?!
[21:19] Megumi
There're more cameras than people!
[21:20] Osamu
I've never seen anything like it!
[21:22] Osamu
The heck is up with that? Nine cameras!
[21:25] Osamu
I'm really looking forward
to seeing the final video.
[21:28] Osamu
Lots of different angles. Just cut, cut, cut...
[21:30] Nakki
Right?
[21:31] Kenta
Makes you wonder where the cuts will be.
[21:32] Kenji
Right?
[21:33] Kenta
Should be interesting.
[21:34] Kenji
They could make this segment
in 3D with all these angles.
[21:37] Nakki
I was kinda focused on the segment, so...
[21:40] Nakki
Once the cameras are off,
I'm ready to chow down.
[21:45] Nakki
That's all.
[21:47] Osamu
So cool!
[21:50] Kenta
Well, today, I kind of... have my
doubts about whether I should be here,
[21:56] Kenta
considering the caliber
of the other guests.
[21:59] Osamu
C'mon, genius! Don't be like that, genius!
[22:00] Kenta
But I had a lot of fun being able
to kick back and chat with everyone.
[22:06] Kenta
I'd love to do it again. Thanks for having me.
[22:10] Narrator
And that's it for this week's round table.
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VA
[22:18] Pink bubble
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expect the usual kind of finale.
SIGN Director
[22:23] Pink bubble
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difficulties he faced working on Ekoda-chan!
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See you then!
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SIGN Until she's ready
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Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Director:
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
SIGN Tales from New-Burg
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Worker
SIGN Worker
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Worker
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ohken
SIGN That's what you said last year.
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Music
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN Worker
SIGN Worker
SIGN Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Worker
SIGN A Night for Shoegazing
SIGN Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Nakki
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Customer (Man)
SIGN Seiji
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Nakki
[24:58] Ekoda
Once again,
[24:58] Ekoda
I've picked up a worthless guy...
SIGN Customer (Man)
SIGN One Early Afternoon
in Ekoda
SIGN Starring Ekoda-chan
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Koshoji
SIGN Music By
SIGN Sakurai Kenta
SIGN ...Ekoda-chan...
SIGN who lives in Ekoda
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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