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SIGN Find everything You Need in the Ginza Shopping District
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
[00:03] Ladies
What? She got a divorce?
SIGN Nogata
[00:05] M
What? Seriously?
[00:07] Guys
You didn't know?
[00:09] Guys
I figured, seeing as how I told Ekoda-san,
[00:13] Guys
she woulda told you that already, M-san.
[00:15] M
Nope...
[00:17] Guys
M-senpai, what line of work is Ekoda-san in?
[00:21] M
Work?
[00:23] Guys
The other day, I called her up early,
[00:25] Guys
and she answered with
"Thank you for your phone call!"
[00:28] M
She's a call handler
[00:29] M
at some life insurance firm, so she was probably
half asleep and thought she was at work.
[00:33] Guys
Huh?
[00:34] Guys
I heard she wiggles her butt
onstage at a pub over in Shinjuku.
[00:38] Guys
Huh? Isn't it a Philippine pub?
[00:41] Guys
She's not even Filipina!
[00:43] Guys
I thought she worked at a Chinese
restaurant in this part of town.
[00:46] Guys
Really? I worked with her on a
short-term gig a while ago, though.
[00:50] Guys
So what exactly does Ekoda do?
[00:54] M
What are you asking me for?
[00:56] M
I'm not her babysitter.
[01:03] Guys
Still... Ekoda-san's pretty amazing.
[01:06] Ladies
Right? I wish I could be like her.
SIGN You have five missed calls
[01:09] Guys
Maybe she's a robot?
[01:11] Guys
Ekoda-01, Ekoda-02, Ekoda Mass
Production Model, Ekoda Hybrid!
[01:16] Guys
Hey, you get better mileage outta that one!
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
[01:21] Lady
Sorry I'm late!
[01:23] Guys
We've been waiting for you!
[01:25] Guys
Come on in!
[01:27] Lady
Y'know, I saw Ekoda-chan at the supermarket.
[01:32] Lady
She was buying some really
expensive-looking beef.
[01:37] Lady
She seemed really
excited about something!
[01:39] Guy
Why didn't she show today, anyway?
[01:42] Guy
I asked M-san to let her know...
[01:49] M
Sorry. I'm calling it a night.
[01:52] M
Later.
[01:58] Guys
Come join us.
[02:00] Guys
Park your butt already.
[02:01] Lady
Okay!
[02:04] M
I'm coming in.
[02:11] M
You cooked for him and he canceled
at the last second again, huh?
[02:14] Ekoda
Don't spell it out like that!
[02:16] Ekoda
Sorry about the other day...
[02:19] M
The whole "You won't get anywhere if you keep
nurturing these unrequited crushes" thing?
[02:24] M
It's fine. After all, it's true.
[02:27] M
There was a drinking party tonight,
[02:29] M
and I was supposed to invite you, but I didn't.
[02:34] Ekoda
What the hell?!
[02:35] Ekoda
Why do you have to get
so moody about this stuff?!
[02:38] M
Maybe I wouldn't if you stopped
one-ringing me to get my attention!
[02:45] Ekoda
I bet no one interesting showed up, anyway.
[02:48] M
Yup. Not an interesting person in sight.
[02:52] Ekoda
Okay! Time for another helping!
[02:55] Ekoda
I love meat.
[02:57] Ekoda
It never cancels on you, or badmouths you.
[03:00] Ekoda
The fact that we can't marry meat shows
just how behind the times this country is.
[03:04] M
You'll put on weight.
[03:05] Ekoda
I'll just get back to normal again later.
[03:08] Ekoda
As many times as I need to.
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 8: Kojima Masayuki,
SIGN Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
[04:00] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Ise Mariya.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
[04:02] Narrator
On top of getting behind-the-scenes
tales from the director,
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
SIGN Episode 8's Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
[04:05] Narrator
we'll also hear about a surprising clash!
[04:07] Narrator
Get ready for a candid story.
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:16] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
[04:23] Kataoka
What are your thoughts?
SIGN Your thoughts now the recording is over
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Episode 8's Director
Kojima Masayuki
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
Ise Mariya
[04:25] Kojima
Well, it was a short project,
[04:29] Kojima
but we had a recording session
with a good number of voices.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:36] Kojima
And I think the voice work
turned out perfect.
[04:39] Ise
Really?
[04:40] Ise
Well, I think, first of all, I'm relieved
it turned out as well as it did.
[04:45] Ise
Before the recording,
I read through the manga,
[04:52] Ise
and viewed through the lens of social norms,
Ekoda-chan's way of life seems modern,
[05:00] Ise
but the work itself has
been around for quite a while,
[05:04] Ise
so I guess that means it portrays some
ubiquitous feminine experience?
[05:09] Ise
Like, it makes you think: "Women like
this must exist in every time period."
[05:12] Ise
And the thought of me portraying
Ekoda-chan, giving her a voice...
[05:18] Ise
I felt a bit of pressure over how
exactly I should go about voicing her,
[05:24] Ise
so once we were done, I felt
a real sense of relief that it was all over.
[05:29] Ise
Well, when I was reading the manga,
SIGN How Ekoda-chan talks
[05:33] Ise
I thought she'd probably have
a sorta flat way of talking.
[05:37] Ise
She has a wide range of emotions,
[05:39] Ise
but when she's expressing herself,
there aren't a lot of wild swings.
[05:42] Ise
And I thought about how
she's not particularly intense.
[05:45] Ise
I mean, she's at home and naked a lot.
[05:49] Ise
When she's talking to herself,
her monologues can get pretty wild,
[05:53] Ise
but when she's actually speaking to people,
[05:56] Ise
I got the feeling she'd
sound more dispassionate.
[06:00] Ise
But during the recording,
Yamada-san, the audio director,
[06:03] Ise
said, "I'm happy for you to be
as expressive as you want."
[06:10] Ise
So she ended up sounding
a lot like Ise Mariya.
[06:14] Ise
At least, that's how I think it ended up.
[06:16] Ise
Well... Personally I...
SIGN Similarities to Ekoda-chan!?
[06:19] Ise
I mean, I can't see too many
similarities between us.
[06:23] Ise
At least, that's how it seems to me.
[06:27] Ise
But Kataoka-san told me: "Y'know,
when I was reading Ekoda-chan,
[06:31] Ise
a lot of the things she does
reminded me of you."
[06:35] Ise
And I was sort of pleased about that,
but it was... a complicated feeling.
[06:39] Ise
Well, I think our strengths
might be similar, yeah.
[06:43] Ise
If that's what you meant, I'm glad to hear it.
[06:45] Ise
What's so funny, Director Kojima?
[06:47] Ise
I was just thinking...
[06:48] Kojima
He knows you pretty well.
[06:49] Ise
Seriously?
SIGN The character of Ekoda-chan
[06:52] Ise
Well, we only did the one episode,
so looking at it in isolation...
[06:58] Ise
The episode kind of builds up
your curiosity about Ekoda-chan,
[07:02] Ise
and just as your curiosity
peaks, the episode ends.
[07:07] Ise
And it underscores how she doesn't
care what other people think of her.
[07:12] Ise
I personally thought the strength of
character you'd need to live like that
[07:18] Ise
really comes through in her final line.
[07:21] Ise
"I'll just get back to normal again later.
As many times as I need to."
[07:24] Ise
I thought that part was really wonderful.
[07:27] Ise
And I believed it really got across
her sort of... What would you call it?
[07:32] Ise
Her clear outlook, or I guess, not having
baggage coloring her perspective.
[07:36] Ise
And I wanted that to come
through in the performance.
[07:39] Ise
I think this vignette happens right
after she's been rebuffed romantically,
[07:44] Ise
and the way she compares
relationships to meat...
[07:47] Ise
About how nice it is, and
how it doesn't badmouth her...
[07:50] Ise
And how Japan is behind the times
for not letting people marry meat.
[07:54] Ise
I thought that was something that hinged
on getting that last line just right, as well.
[07:59] Ise
To get across that sentiment of how it
doesn't matter how many men leave her,
[08:03] Ise
she can always find someone new.
[08:05] Ise
That shows real mental strength.
[08:09] Kataoka
It sounds like you're comparing
[08:10] Kataoka
her reaction with your own.
[08:10] Ise
Yes, I think so.
[08:12] Ise
Well, y'know... there's always another
romance right around the corner, right?
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 8 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN The reasons behind choosing this particular storyline
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
[08:23] Kataoka
Was there any particular reason
you chose this kind of story?
[08:26] Kojima
Any particular reason?
[08:28] Kojima
Well... it's got a lot of
different aspects to it,
[08:32] Kojima
and I thought it'd help get across
some of the character's dynamism.
[08:35] Kojima
In terms of animation, it's kind
of, like... How should I put it?
[08:39] Kojima
I thought I could take it in a direction
which would have a lot of impact.
[08:42] Kojima
And I get the feeling people
expect me to go in that direction.
[08:47] Kojima
So when it came to what I wanted to do...
[08:51] Kojima
There's a special kind of friendship, I guess
you'd call it, that can exist between two women.
[08:56] Kojima
That was the kind of thing
I wanted to depict.
[09:00] Kojima
And that's why I ended up going for this.
[09:03] Ise
There's the way that Ekoda-chan and M
have a fight before the story even starts,
SIGN The relationship that exists between our duo
and the characteristics of Director Kojima's works
[09:09] Ise
so they go their separate ways for a bit,
[09:12] Ise
but then, M comes back,
and the two of them make up.
[09:18] Ise
I thought: "That's just what
I'd expect from Director Kojima."
[09:21] Ise
Sorta depicting the bond
they share as friends.
[09:26] Ise
The fact that you focused
on that impressed me.
[09:30] Kojima
Well, when I accepted
the offer to work on this,
[09:34] Kojima
some of the things I've worked
on before have been kind of...
[09:38] Kojima
So I wanted to work on something
outside of the genres I'm known for,
[09:43] Kojima
but ultimately, it ended up being
a lot like my other shows.
[09:48] Ise
Even with a short run-time,
it was pretty dramatic.
SIGN An episode about how Ekoda-chan is viewed by third parties
[09:52] Ise
You know how, a lot of the time,
[09:54] Ise
the strip begins with
Ekoda-chan greeting the reader?
[09:58] Ise
So, mentally, I was expecting that to be
the first line when I opened the script,
[10:03] Ise
and then, I was like, "Huh?
She barely has any lines!"
[10:06] Ise
So that was a shock, but also,
a really creative approach.
[10:10] Ise
Although, I was kinda like,
"Is she ever gonna say anything?"
[10:13] Ise
But I think, in terms of what you were
trying to get across in the episode,
[10:19] Ise
instead of Ekoda-chan standing
center stage as the protagonist,
[10:23] Ise
it's an examination of her
relationships with other people.
[10:26] Ise
It shows how the people
around Ekoda-chan view her.
[10:31] Ise
And I thought that was interesting,
and tried to lean into that take on her.
[10:37] Ise
In the end, I didn't think
I needed any more lines.
[10:40] Kojima
I kinda expected you to want more.
[10:43] Kojima
But, you know, what she says is right.
[10:46] Kojima
The whole motif of "How other
people see Ekoda-chan..."
[10:50] Kojima
I thought that'd be a good thing to focus on.
SIGN Ise-san and Director Kojima's past collaborations
[10:54] Kataoka
How did the two of you meet, anyway?
[10:56] Kojima
When was our first meeting?
[10:58] Ise
I think we first met on "Bottom Biting Bug."
[11:00] Kojima
Oh, that's right.
[11:02] Kataoka
"Bottom Biting Bug"?
[11:02] Ise
Yes, we worked together on a show
called "Bottom Biting Bug,"
[11:07] Ise
and after that came "Made in Abyss,"
where we interacted with each other a lot.
[11:15] Ise
I think that just about covers it.
[11:18] Ise
There were some moments on that last one
which proved to be pretty difficult,
SIGN Ise-san's opinion of Director Kojima's talent
[11:22] Ise
and those scenes were the ones
lifted wholesale from the manga
[11:27] Ise
in a way that almost hurt to watch,
[11:31] Ise
but the question came up about exactly how
Director Kojima would depict those scenes.
[11:38] Ise
That was something the audio director,
Yamada-san, asked at the time.
[11:42] Ise
And seeing the end result made me
trust Director Kojima's judgment.
[11:47] Ise
He was really good at depicting the growth
and friendship of those children.
[11:54] Ise
That was the impression I came away with.
[11:56] Kojima
Really?
[11:58] Kojima
Well, and I think this applies
to both Ekoda-chan and Abyss,
SIGN Director Kojima on playing to his strengths
[12:03] Kojima
I sort of feel like... you have
to play to your strengths.
[12:07] Kojima
To make something you'll be satisfied with,
[12:10] Kojima
it means working with...
what you have, really.
[12:16] Kojima
And it's not like I intended
to do something ultra-personal.
[12:21] Kojima
I was trying to do it in the
style of the source material.
[12:23] Ise
You were?
[12:25] Kojima
I wanted to keep the flavor
of the manga and then,
[12:31] Kojima
apply the sort of creative process
that animation benefits from.
[12:35] Kojima
I thought that's what'd work best.
SIGN On actually visiting the Ekoda neighborhood
as part of their research
[12:40] Kojima
Well, we actually visited the pub that shows
up in the episode as part of our research.
[12:47] Kojima
It's called Nogata.
[12:48] Kataoka
Ah, Nogata!
[12:49] Kojima
Right.
[12:50] Ise
Nogata...
[12:51] Kataoka
You should come with us next time, Ise-san.
[12:53] Ise
Sure.
[12:54] Ise
Sounds good. Get some drinks.
[12:56] Kojima
I wasn't actually drinking,
but the food was delicious.
[13:01] Ise
That sounds nice. I'd love to go.
[13:04] Kojima
I think that, unless I have a good
grasp of the scene in my head,
[13:10] Kojima
I get really anxious about not being
able to fill in the details very well.
[13:15] Kojima
So I figured, since this was a real location,
[13:22] Kojima
I'd go check it out, take
some pictures for reference,
[13:27] Kojima
and make sure it looked right.
SIGN Subtle considerations in the line reads and the depiction
[13:34] Ise
Something that stood out
to me that the director did
[13:39] Ise
that I thought was especially thoughtful...
[13:42] Ise
It was during the scene in the pub,
which had some ad-libbing...
[13:48] Ise
And one of the men asks,
"What line of work is Ekoda-chan in?"
[13:52] Ise
"Oh, she works at a pub
that does shows in Shinjuku."
[13:56] Ise
And then, after that, there's
a line in the script that says:
[13:59] Ise
"Isn't it a Philippine pub?"
[14:02] Ise
And the first take the guy did of it...
[14:06] Ise
It had a bit of an "Oh? Isn't it
a Philippine pub?" feel to it.
[14:09] Ise
The portrayal felt a little snarky.
[14:15] Ise
But then, Director Kojima, or maybe
it was the audio director, Yamada-san,
[14:19] Ise
said it was probably better to
just ask the question normally,
[14:22] Ise
like it was a genuine case of not knowing.
[14:24] Ise
That was the direction
that was given on that line.
[14:29] Ise
And I thought, "Wow," and was
really impressed by that reaction.
[14:32] Ise
How it showed that Ekoda-chan,
and women like her,
[14:36] Ise
may have all kinds of
part-time jobs or careers,
[14:38] Ise
but since they're working hard
to make their way through life,
[14:45] Ise
they don't deserve mockery. Their choices
should be accepted for what they are.
[14:50] Ise
And the fact that such close attention was
paid to the performance to show that
[14:54] Ise
struck me as a really admirable sentiment.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
SIGN Episode 8's Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[15:07] Narrator
Ise-san is apparently
just like Ekoda-chan,
[15:09] Narrator
and Director Kojima has
a style he likes to stick to.
[15:13] Narrator
In the second half, we'll dig deeper into
the character of Ekoda-chan with these two.
[15:18] Narrator
And we'll hear a surprising story
of Ise-san getting into a huge fight!
SIGN The Director x The VA
& Ekoda-chan
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Ekoda-chan is 24
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
[15:28] Ise
Ekoda-chan's supposed to be 24 in the story,
[15:35] Ise
but she seems a lot more
worldly and a lot older to me.
[15:40] Ise
But she also gives off this youthful air.
[15:43] Ise
And I think that might be because Ekoda-chan
herself isn't too concerned about age.
[15:49] Ise
It's just part of what gives her such
a fiercely independent, freewheeling life.
[15:56] Ise
I personally don't let age
trip me up much, either.
[16:02] Ise
It's more about what my goal is
from one moment to the next.
[16:07] Ise
I think I'm the kind of person who
chooses her path based on that.
[16:11] Ise
So I think that's one thing...
[16:13] Ise
Actually, now, after this discussion,
[16:16] Ise
I'm starting to realize we
do have a lot in common.
SIGN Director Kojima at 24
[16:19] Kojima
Well, of course, Ekoda-chan is 24,
[16:25] Kojima
but I think there's a pretty big difference
between men and women at that age.
[16:29] Kojima
I get the feeling,
psychologically speaking,
[16:32] Kojima
a woman would be more mature at 24.
[16:38] Kojima
I think when I was 24,
[16:41] Kojima
I'd been in animation for about three years.
[16:45] Kojima
I mostly remember it as a period
of working all-nighters, though.
[16:53] Kojima
At my current age, I totally
understand Ekoda-chan's charm,
[16:58] Kojima
but I think when I was 24, I wouldn't
have wanted to come within a meter of her.
SIGN Being friends with Ekoda-chan
[17:04] Ise
Good question.
[17:05] Ise
I think if I had a friend, or a best
friend, who was just like Ekoda-chan...
[17:15] Ise
I'd be really worried about her!
[17:19] Ise
But y'know, if you accept that that's
just who she is, just part of her nature,
[17:24] Ise
then, I think it'd involve meeting
up every now and then to catch up,
[17:28] Ise
and there'd be a lot of, "So that's what's going
on with Ekoda-chan. She never changes."
[17:32] Ise
I think I'd really look forward to
hearing what's going on in her life.
[17:37] Ise
I've never had many fights
with my best friends...
[17:42] Ise
Honestly, beyond middle school,
not many fights, period.
[17:46] Ise
Though, when I was in high school,
[17:47] Ise
I ended up bickering with someone
because of a misunderstanding.
SIGN Ise-san's voice actress friend, Han Megumi-san
[17:51] Ise
In this episode, Han Megumi-chan,
who plays Friend M,
[17:59] Ise
she and I are really... We've got a relationship
kind of like Ekoda-chan and Friend M.
[18:05] Ise
We're sort of voice-acting war buddies.
[18:10] Ise
So when I heard she'd been
cast in this, I was really happy.
[18:14] Ise
Now, I was already an adult when I met her,
[18:19] Ise
but there was this one time
when we did have a fight.
[18:22] Ise
It was during "Hunter x Hunter"...
SIGN A fight with her war buddy, Han Megumi!?
[18:24] Kataoka
The Gon and Killua duo?
[18:25] Ise
That's us. We were playing
Gon and Killua at the time,
[18:28] Ise
and we got into a serious
fight at the studio...
[18:33] Ise
In the lobby.
[18:35] Ise
And it ended up being really funny...
[18:38] Ise
Because as we were arguing,
we started sounding like our roles.
[18:44] Ise
She sounded like Gon,
and I sounded like Killua,
[18:46] Ise
going "Screw you, it only ended up
like that because you did this!"
[18:49] Ise
We both started to sound like little boys!
[18:52] Ise
And when I realized that,
I was really shocked,
[18:56] Ise
because... the boundary where
the role ends and you begin...
[19:00] Ise
That had blurred for both of us.
[19:03] Ise
The roles were starting
to project themselves onto us.
[19:08] Ise
I'd never experienced anything like it.
[19:09] Kataoka
That sounds amazing. I wish I'd been there.
[19:12] Kojima
Seriously.
[19:14] Ise
Yeah.
[19:14] Kojima
I kind of wonder how many people
like her are left in the world.
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[19:23] Kojima
That was something I thought
when I read the manga, as well.
[19:28] Kojima
I think... in modern times...
[19:31] Kojima
And it's not just women;
this applies to men, too...
[19:36] Kojima
But the kind of vitality she has...
[19:40] Kojima
Being able to maintain that is
something I personally wish I could do.
[19:44] Kojima
And I wanted to convey the
energy she has to the viewers.
[19:51] Kojima
So I hope that came across.
[19:56] Kojima
The vitality and energy she brings
[20:00] Kojima
is really wonderful.
[20:01] Ise
Right.
[20:02] Kojima
And it strikes me that those two things
[20:06] Kojima
are the kind of traits you don't
find in a lot of women anymore.
[20:13] Kojima
And I hope it maybe
inspires people who see this
[20:17] Kojima
to display that kind of
energy in their lives, too.
[20:22] Ise
Right.
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[20:24] Kojima
The question of "What's
wrong with not being normal?"
[20:30] Kojima
That was something I wanted
to get across with this, too,
[20:37] Kojima
but I think maybe three minutes
wasn't enough to really deliver on that.
[20:41] Kojima
And it was hard getting it across
even to the degree we did.
[20:47] Kojima
But the idea that there's nothing
wrong with not being "normal"...
[20:50] Kojima
On some level, I tell that
to myself, as well, but...
[20:54] Kojima
But I think that's part of Ekoda-chan's power,
[20:56] Kojima
and I hope that people
watching, especially women,
[21:04] Kojima
get that part of the message
that's instilled in there.
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[21:09] Ise
I think that the way
Ekoda-chan lives her life...
[21:14] Ise
Well, I think it's kind of admirable. Like...
[21:20] Ise
in the way she doesn't let people
around her influence her too much.
[21:23] Ise
And the way she makes decisions
based on her own values,
[21:29] Ise
and I think that's something I find
really impressive as a fellow woman,
[21:33] Ise
but I honestly think
it's something, gender aside,
[21:39] Ise
more people should try to aspire to.
[21:43] Ise
And y'know, I think there are probably
still a lot of secret Ekoda-chans out there.
[21:50] Ise
And that they're... I dunno, just lurking...
[21:52] Ise
and can be found in all kinds of places.
[21:57] Kataoka
I know one who isn't hiding.
[21:58] Ise
I guess I'm not!
[21:59] Ise
Yeah, I'm definitely not hiding.
[22:03] Ise
So I'm going to continue down
the Ekoda-chan highway,
[22:06] Ise
in terms of how I want to live.
[22:10] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
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[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
a replacement steps in
for a missing director?!
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VA
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[22:20] Narrator
Looks like we might be relying
on Ekoda-chan's actress next week!
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VA
[22:25] Narrator
Will the round table discussion work out?
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VA
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[22:28] Narrator
Tune in to find out!
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SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Face
SIGN Contours
SIGN Hair
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