# E3
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**[00:00] ---**
Rinshi!!
**[00:00] ---**
Ekoda-chan
**[00:04] Ekoda**
I'm having a side dish of saury today.
My plan is to salt it and grill it.
**[00:08] Ekoda**
Before I cook it, I mess about with it a little
to find out what it's like to own a pet.
**[00:13] Ekoda**
"Aw, don't bite me!" Stuff like that.
**[00:16] Ekoda**
"Birds of prey."
**[00:17] ME**
Look, a birdie!
**[00:19] ME**
This kitty's *so cute*!
**[00:20] ME**
A bear! Yay!
**[00:22] Ekoda**
Is she an animal lover?
**[00:24] ME**
It's a moo cow!
**[00:25] Ekoda**
No, something about this
scene suggests otherwise.
**[00:29] Ekoda**
Or is it just me?
**[00:31] News**
*This is Tanaka-san, who grows
flowers on his property every year.*
**[00:35] Tanaka**
*I want to cheer up everyone
who passes my garden.*
**[00:38] Ekoda**
I feel you.
**[00:39] News**
*Being a newscaster must be tough.*
**[00:42] Bird**
*It is, but I try to make everyone happy,
and do my job with a smile on my face.*
**[00:45] Ekoda**
I sorta feel you, I guess.
**[00:47] Idols**
With our cheerful singing and dancing...
**[00:49] Idols**
...we wanna help everyone dream!
**[00:51] Idols**
So we're gonna sing!
**[00:52] Idols**
Meow, meow, meow.
**[00:55] Ekoda**
Is that really how it works? I'm not convinced.
**[00:58] Sis**
Hey, I know my business better
than anyone, so don't butt in.
**[01:03] Ekoda**
My big sis *sounds* like she knows everything.
**[01:05] Ekoda**
But does she really?
**[01:08] Ekoda**
After all, my sister has yet to realize...
**[01:11] Ekoda**
...she's been eating in her sleep.
**[01:14] Ekoda**
I bought a dog carrier
at the second-hand store.
**[01:18] ME**
D'you think it's a kitty? Or a puppy?
**[01:20] ME**
Can I take a peek?
**[01:22] Ekoda**
Trying to flaunt your cute side, huh?
**[01:25] Ekoda**
It won't work this time.
**[01:26] Ekoda**
Tell me, little bird of prey:
how are you going to react to *this*?
**[01:31] Horse**
What was in there?
**[01:32] ME**
The *cutest* little purse you've ever seen!
**[01:34] Ekoda**
Those birds of prey! They score
top marks for cuteness every time!
**[01:38] Ekoda**
I concede defeat.
**[01:39] Sam**
Ah, wholesome Japanese high schoolers.
**[01:42] Sam**
They must be about 15 or 16.
**[01:45] Sam**
By the time they get to my age,
some of them will be in college,
**[01:49] Sam**
most will be married, and a few
will have headed off overseas.
**[01:53] Sam**
And one or two... will have died.
**[01:56] Ekoda**
Do you have some beef with
Japanese high school girls?
**[01:59] Ekoda**
Um, I'd like a cheeseburger, hold the pickles.
**[02:03] Clerk**
Right. One cheeseburger, hold the cheese.
**[02:05] Ekoda**
She misheard me!
**[02:07] Ekoda**
Uh, actually...
**[02:08] Clerk**
Okay, so that's a cheeseburger without cheese...
**[02:12] Clerk**
Wait, that's just a regular hamburger.
**[02:14] Ekoda**
Talk about realizing you're
wrong but not knowing why.
**[02:19] Friend**
I don't have any sexual proclivities.
**[02:21] Friend**
I don't know if I'm dominant or submissive,
or if there are any fetishes I'm into.
**[02:25] Friend**
And I'm hopeless at talking dirty.
**[02:27] Ekoda**
There's nothing wrong with that.
**[02:29] Friend**
But I don't like not knowing these things.
**[02:31] Friend**
So I bought some rope just to try it out,
**[02:33] Friend**
and before tying myself up with it,
I decided to boil it so it'd soften up a bit,
**[02:37] Friend**
but my dad lifted up the lid,
thinking it was oden.
**[02:40] Friend**
Ever since, it's been awkward between us.
**[02:42] Ekoda**
I'm not sure which bit of that
you want me to comment on.
**[02:46] Ekoda**
Ekoda-chan's rules for doodling.
**[02:48] Ekoda**
Draw a fish on rice omelets.
**[02:49] Ekoda**
Footprints in the condensation.
**[02:51] Ekoda**
And... on your knees, draw faces.
**[02:54] Ekoda**
It's been so long, knees!
**[02:57] Ekoda**
It's a great way to spend an evening
when your nerves are frazzled.
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
This time, we unveil the director
of Episode 3: Shigino Akira,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tatsumi Yuiko!
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
**[04:01] Narrator**
In Episode 3, to everyone's shock,
all the characters were animals!
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[04:05] Narrator**
Ekoda-chan as a bunny?!
**[04:07] Narrator**
We'll find out the director's
reasoning behind the change!
**[04:10] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[04:17] Akira**
Well, I generally don't turn
down a lot of work,
***SIGN*** The reason the director accepted the job
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Tatsumi Yuiko
**[04:22] Akira**
but I actually read the
manga, back in the day.
**[04:25] Kataoka**
I see.
**[04:26] Akira**
And I remember thinking
it was interesting.
**[04:31] Akira**
But I imagine, if I'd never read it,
**[04:35] Akira**
I might've had doubts about
whether I could adapt it properly.
**[04:40] Akira**
But I had read it.
**[04:42] Akira**
So I figured it could be fun.
**[04:45] Akira**
And when I heard it was a short-form anime,
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:47] Akira**
with 12 different directors working on it...
**[04:49] Kataya**
Right.
**[04:50] Akira**
I thought that was interesting, too.
**[04:52] Akira**
It feels like it's been a while
since I was actually at a recording.
***SIGN*** Looking back on today's recording session
**[04:56] Akira**
So that was fun, too.
**[04:58] Akira**
Since I turned the
characters into animals,
**[05:02] Akira**
I was curious how it'd turn out
when it came time to record.
**[05:07] Akira**
Yeah.
**[05:08] Yuiko**
Let's see...
**[05:09] Yuiko**
Well, since it's only a five-minute run-time,
**[05:14] Yuiko**
there weren't a whole lot
of actual lines to record.
**[05:18] Yuiko**
But I was struck by how different
it was from the source material.
**[05:23] Yuiko**
And because of that difference in tone,
**[05:25] Yuiko**
deciding how to voice her
was more spur-of-the-moment.
**[05:29] Yuiko**
That was the main feeling I got.
**[05:32] Yuiko**
And the lack of direction
I got also surprised me.
**[05:37] Yuiko**
I got nothing from the
director or the audio director.
**[05:39] Yuiko**
So I'm actually sitting here
feeling kinda nervous about it all.
**[05:44] Yuiko**
But it was a lot of fun!
**[05:45] Yuiko**
It was so much fun, but I'm still sorta
nervous about how it'll turn out.
**[05:48] Yuiko**
I've been looking forward
to hearing how it was taken.
**[05:51] Kataoka**
Well, she's different
from the manga version.
**[05:53] Kataoka**
No kidding. She really is!
**[05:56] Yuiko**
I read the manga a lot before
showing up to the recording,
**[05:58] Yuiko**
so when I saw the video, I was like,
"Wait, what? This is totally different!"
**[06:03] Yuiko**
So I'm not sure my response
to that was the right one...
**[06:06] Yuiko**
But I tried to give the
best performance I could.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 3 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[06:14] Akira**
Well, she's almost always
naked in the original manga.
***SIGN*** The reason behind turning the cast into animals
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
**[06:19] Akira**
But this is TV, and there are
certain things you just can't show.
**[06:24] Akira**
So instead of using mosaics or something
similarly ugly to cover up the "naughty" bits,
**[06:32] Akira**
I figured nakedness wasn't
an issue if she was an animal.
**[06:36] Akira**
That's basically why.
**[06:37] Yuiko**
I see!
**[06:38] Yuiko**
So that explains why she was a bunny...
**[06:39] Akira**
And then...
**[06:41] Akira**
Actually, all the characters are naked.
**[06:42] Yuiko**
Right, everyone in the episode is naked.
**[06:43] Kataoka**
So they are.
**[06:46] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[06:47] Yuiko**
I get it now.
**[06:48] Kataoka**
Animals do walk around naked, after all.
**[06:50] Akira**
Right.
**[06:51] Yuiko**
That's such an interesting
way of looking at it.
***SIGN*** What you thought after seeing the animal version of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" for the first time
**[06:53] Akira**
I didn't predict her transforming
into an animal because of the nudity,
**[06:58] Akira**
but since the change made
it seem more kid-friendly,
**[07:02] Akira**
I sorta thought that
was how it should sound.
**[07:05] Akira**
The art style really gave
me that impression.
**[07:07] Akira**
But the actual content
is the same as in the manga.
**[07:09] Yuiko**
Right, exactly! The scenarios
themselves didn't change.
**[07:12] Yuiko**
There's actually something
I was curious about.
**[07:15] Yuiko**
There are so many strips. What made
you adapt these particular ones?
**[07:19] Akira**
Well...
***SIGN*** The reasons behind which strips got chosen for adaptation
in Episode 3 of the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** I just picked out the ones I found funny.
**[07:23] Yuiko**
I see. As straightforward as that?
**[07:25] Akira**
Yeah.
**[07:27] Yuiko**
That makes sense.
**[07:28] Akira**
I mean, sometimes, when
the author's a woman,
**[07:31] Akira**
there are things men have
trouble understanding.
**[07:36] Akira**
And I wanted to avoid those strips,
because I wouldn't know how to approach them,
**[07:42] Akira**
so I picked out ones that spoke to me.
**[07:44] Akira**
And since I mostly do comedies,
**[07:47] Akira**
I wanted ones that a wider
audience would find funny.
**[07:52] Akira**
So I chose the strips that
worked for me in that sense,
**[07:55] Akira**
and they're the ones I ended up using.
**[07:59] Akira**
If I don't personally find something funny,
I have trouble knowing what to do with it.
**[08:03] Akira**
And I also wanted to have a selection
of characters to bring balance.
**[08:08] Akira**
So her sister is in it, and Sam's in there,
**[08:11] Akira**
and I thought about adding her boyfriend in,
but we didn't have enough run-time for that.
**[08:16] Akira**
The part where the crab walks past...
**[08:18] Yuiko**
Oh, I remember that!
**[08:20] Akira**
I would've liked to have done that one.
**[08:23] Akira**
So it's a bit of a shame.
**[08:24] Kataoka**
When you look at Maa-kun and Sam...
**[08:26] Kataoka**
There are a lot of funny guys in the manga.
**[08:27] Yuiko**
You're so right!
**[08:28] Yuiko**
The guy who follows her around, too.
**[08:30] Kataoka**
Right.
**[08:30] Yuiko**
Ekoda-chan kinda has this free-spirited
approach to her relationships with men.
***SIGN*** On how "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" feels more friendly
as a result of everyone becoming animals
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[08:35] Yuiko**
There are plenty of examples
of that in the manga, right?
**[08:37] Yuiko**
So that tends to spring to mind when I think
about it. It leaves a strong impression.
**[08:42] Yuiko**
And the way this episode glosses over that,
**[08:45] Yuiko**
and instead, serves up these warm,
conventional kind of jokes...
**[08:47] Yuiko**
There's something about that...
I'm not sure how to put it...
**[08:51] Yuiko**
It makes it feel a bit surreal,
and I really loved that about it.
***SIGN*** Difficulties in recording
**[08:55] Yuiko**
Let's see, what difficulties did we face?
**[08:58] Yuiko**
The pace was one thing. It was so fast.
**[09:01] Yuiko**
I mean, it's only five minutes,
so it's just beat after beat after beat,
**[09:05] Yuiko**
with the story changing
from one moment to the next.
**[09:07] Yuiko**
It felt like I was struggling to keep up.
**[09:12] Yuiko**
That's the main thing, yeah.
**[09:15] Kataoka**
Was there anything you particularly
focused on in your performance?
***SIGN*** Things you paid special attention to, as Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[09:18] Yuiko**
Let's see...
**[09:20] Yuiko**
Well, instead of trying to stick
closer to the original Ekoda-chan...
**[09:25] Yuiko**
The one from the manga, I mean,
which I read before coming in...
**[09:28] Yuiko**
I wanted to try to match the art style,
and the atmosphere of each segment.
**[09:34] Yuiko**
That's what I decided on seeing them.
**[09:35] Yuiko**
And that was one bit of direction I got.
**[09:38] Yuiko**
And I realized, "Oh, *right*."
**[09:40] Yuiko**
So what we ended up recording today,
**[09:43] Yuiko**
the voice that's going
to be in the final product,
**[09:47] Yuiko**
is what we came up with on the day.
**[09:48] Yuiko**
It sounded totally different
when I was practicing at home.
**[09:51] Yuiko**
And I was a little anxious about
how different it turned out.
**[09:56] Akira**
Sorry about that.
**[09:57] Yuiko**
Oh, it's totally fine!
**[09:58] Yuiko**
I was just curious how it turned out,
**[10:01] Yuiko**
since there wasn't a lot of direction.
**[10:04] Yuiko**
I got kinda nervous about it...
**[10:06] Director**
Well, giving lots of specific directions...
**[10:10] Director**
I mean, I personally don't like that approach.
**[10:12] Yuiko**
Yeah, but with the other characters...
**[10:15] Yuiko**
There were quite a lot of retakes for them.
**[10:21] Director**
Oh, that's a separate issue.
**[10:24] Akira**
Color, I'd say. I mean, hm. Yeah.
***SIGN*** Things you pay special attention to, as a director
**[10:28] Akira**
I have to admit, I don't really
like using a huge palette...
**[10:35] Akira**
Although, the color gets added
after the voice recording,
**[10:37] Akira**
so we're talking about future stuff here.
**[10:40] Akira**
But that's the way I like to go with it.
**[10:41] Akira**
A long time ago, in kids' magazines,
**[10:45] Akira**
they had pages that were
printed using only four colors.
**[10:49] Akira**
I want this to have that kind of look to it.
**[10:53] Akira**
Not bursting with every color under the sun,
but with a sort of cohesion to it.
**[11:02] Akira**
Something about that
limited palette is soothing.
**[11:07] Akira**
There are less distractions for the eye.
***SIGN*** Focusing on backgrounds
**[11:09] Akira**
Something I realized about
backgrounds on "Osomatsu-kun"
**[11:14] Akira**
was how the backgrounds in
Akatsuka-san's manga were really just lines.
**[11:19] Akira**
So they're just symbolic, really.
**[11:21] Akira**
Ever since then, I've felt like, all
backgrounds need to do is get the idea across.
**[11:25] Kataoka**
I understand what you mean.
**[11:26] Akira**
A lot of times when I see more
realistic backgrounds nowadays,
**[11:29] Akira**
I think to myself that it doesn't really work.
**[11:32] Akira**
Other than that, one of my
favorite background artists
**[11:37] Akira**
is a woman who did the
backgrounds on "Shizuku-chan."
**[11:44] Akira**
So when I was doing the "Shin-chan" movie,
**[11:47] Akira**
I found out the company she was working
at did stuff for the "Shin-chan" TV series,
**[11:52] Akira**
so I asked her to head up
the art side of things.
**[11:57] Akira**
We came up with this sort of...
strange setting for it.
**[12:01] Akira**
And she's good at that, and
giving it a personality of sorts.
***SIGN*** Regarding the 12 Directors and 12 Ekoda-chans
**[12:04] Akira**
With 12 directors, you get lots of variation...
**[12:06] Yuiko**
Yeah, that totally makes sense.
**[12:07] Akira**
Different background artists, too.
**[12:08] Kataoka**
More than anything I've done before,
this project has really made me appreciate
**[12:12] Kataoka**
the role the director plays
in the production of a show.
**[12:16] Kataoka**
It's incredible how many different tools
you have to expand your own interpretation.
**[12:21] Kataoka**
And it results in an animation style
no one else would come up with.
**[12:25] Akira**
I think it's rather flattering
**[12:28] Akira**
that I was chosen as one of the 12 directors.
**[12:28] Yuiko**
Right!
**[12:30] Yuiko**
You did a great job!
**[12:30] Kataoka**
Nobody else would've thought of animals.
**[12:32] Yuiko**
You're on a whole other level!
**[12:34] Yuiko**
No one else would've come up with that.
**[12:36] Yuiko**
I was so surprised!
**[12:36] Kataoka**
Especially considering how cute they are.
**[12:38] Yuiko**
Right!
**[12:39] Yuiko**
To think that something that looks like
this could've been inspired by Ekoda-chan...
**[12:43] Akira**
Well, there are 12 voice actresses, too.
**[12:45] Yuiko**
Oh, yeah, and they'll all have
their own take on the character.
**[12:48] Akira**
People might compare...
**[12:49] Yuiko**
Ah, don't say that!
**[12:50] Yuiko**
I think, because the content is
so different for each episode,
***SIGN*** After the break,
we'll talk about the characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan"
**[12:53] Yuiko**
I'm not as worried as
I would be otherwise.
**[12:56] Yuiko**
"Well, of *course*! It's meant to be different!"
**[12:59] Yuiko**
That's what I'll say.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:06] Narrator**
In the first half, we chatted about how
Ekoda-chan had been turned into a bunny!
**[13:10] Narrator**
In the second half,
we'll hear what they thought
**[13:13] Narrator**
about the various characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
**[13:16] Narrator**
Not only that, we'll hear about when
Director Shigino was 24 years old.
***SIGN*** The characters of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[13:25] Question**
Your favorite lines from "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[13:25] Yuiko**
Well, it wasn't actually one of my lines.
**[13:30] Yuiko**
But out of all the
characters, I like Sam a lot.
**[13:34] Kataoka**
Sam?
**[13:35] Yuiko**
He's the foreign guy.
**[13:36] Yuiko**
I really like it when he
shows up in the manga.
**[13:39] Yuiko**
And when I saw the line: "And one
or two... will have died," in the script,
**[13:42] Yuiko**
I was like, "There it is!"
I got a bit excited about that.
***SIGN*** Favorite stories from the original "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga
**[13:45] Yuiko**
I like how Ekoda-chan's kind of...
What do I want to say?
**[13:51] Yuiko**
She doesn't think things through,
she's just spontaneous,
**[13:54] Yuiko**
and often, things don't work out
like she thought they would.
**[13:57] Yuiko**
I can seriously relate to that.
**[14:00] Yuiko**
She did this one thing that I'd done in real
life myself, and it made me laugh hard.
**[14:04] Yuiko**
It was at a time when
I'd gotten tired of eating hotpot.
**[14:07] Yuiko**
I was just putting kelp and stock in,
**[14:09] Yuiko**
and since I had it all the time,
I was getting bored of it.
**[14:12] Yuiko**
So I tried to liven it up with some miso,
but it just became miso soup.
**[14:16] Yuiko**
And she literally did the same thing!
**[14:19] Yuiko**
"Oh, maybe it'd be tasty with some miso in it!"
**[14:21] Yuiko**
But then, it's seriously just
miso soup! A big pot full of it!
**[14:24] Yuiko**
I remember how depressed it made me.
**[14:26] Yuiko**
When I saw her do it, too,
I was just like, "Wow, same."
**[14:31] Yuiko**
It really made me realize I'm not
alone in doing really goofy things.
***SIGN*** The character of "Big Sis"
**[14:36] Akira**
Her sister is really cute.
**[14:39] Akira**
Though, I really wanted to make her
take a long drag on a cigarette.
**[14:42] Kataoka**
Right, right.
**[14:43] Yuiko**
That didn't work.
**[14:43] Akira**
But y'know, it's anime, so I figured, maybe not.
**[14:45] Yuiko**
It was a selfie instead.
**[14:46] Kataoka**
We were asked not to use cigarettes,
**[14:49] Kataoka**
so we went with the smartphone, instead.
**[14:51] Kataoka**
I think out of all the characters,
her sister is the simplest to understand.
**[14:55] Kataoka**
The "bird of prey" is much
harder by comparison.
***SIGN*** The "bird of prey" archetype
**[14:59] Kataoka**
The "bird of prey" is a hard one.
**[15:01] Kataoka**
The idea that such girls exist...
**[15:03] Kataoka**
I mean, I believe people when say they've
met one, but I've never met one, personally.
**[15:08] Kataoka**
Do they actually exist?
**[15:10] Yuiko**
"Birds of prey"?
**[15:12] Yuiko**
Well, there are these women
**[15:13] Yuiko**
who are loved by everyone, aren't there?
**[15:14] Akira**
And those are "birds of prey"?
**[15:16] Yuiko**
I'm not sure if they really are, or if
that's just how Ekoda-chan sees them.
**[15:19] Yuiko**
The thing is, the "birds of prey" Ekoda-chan
talks about aren't doing anything wrong.
**[15:23] Yuiko**
The way they sorta... just pretend
to be airheads, you know?
**[15:27] Yuiko**
I don't know if that's an
outdated way of putting it!
**[15:31] Yuiko**
But the way they do that, and then,
treat other women with contempt...
**[15:34] Yuiko**
That's a horrible trait you see
a lot in that type of woman,
**[15:39] Yuiko**
but for Ekoda-chan,
the "bird of prey" isn't like that.
**[15:42] Yuiko**
Which actually makes
Ekoda-chan more frustrated!
**[15:45] Yuiko**
But I really like how
she gets all sensitive about it.
**[15:49] Kataoka**
Ekoda-chan's reaction, you mean?
**[15:50] Yuiko**
Right!
**[15:50] Yuiko**
Like, it irritates her, but she
can't actually get mad about it.
**[15:53] Yuiko**
I really like that about her.
**[15:55] Kataoka**
Her "let's steer clear of this" attitude?
**[15:57] Yuiko**
Right, right! That's it exactly.
**[15:59] Kataoka**
How she doesn't want to pick a fight,
**[16:00] Yuiko**
Right, right! Precisely.
**[16:01] Kataoka**
but also wants nothing to do with them.
**[16:02] Yuiko**
In the manga, she says she doesn't
want to turn into one of them.
**[16:07] Akira**
The funniest part with the "bird of prey"
**[16:09] Akira**
was when she was going,
"Look, a birdie! Look, a kitty!"
**[16:13] Akira**
Then, "It's a moo cow!"
while she's eating beef.
**[16:17] Akira**
Something about that really
made her a figure of fun for me.
**[16:21] Yuiko**
The guy she was with... Was he a horse?
***SIGN*** He's a dog
**[16:23] Yuiko**
Some sort of... horsey boyfriend?
**[16:23] Akira**
I think it was a dog.
**[16:25] Yuiko**
So he was a dog?
**[16:27] Yuiko**
The way he just grins the whole time...
That left an impression.
**[16:32] Kataoka**
His neck seemed long for a dog.
**[16:34] Akira**
Oh, was he a horse, then?
**[16:36] Yuiko**
I kinda thought he was.
**[16:37] Akira**
The characters were all
designed by the same person.
**[16:39] Yuiko**
Oh, that's how it was done?
**[16:41] Yuiko**
There are lots of different animals.
**[16:43] Akira**
I think I asked for a dog
when I laid out what I wanted.
**[16:45] Yuiko**
I see...
**[16:46] Yuiko**
Well, maybe it's in the eye of the beholder.
***SIGN*** Is there anything about the characters you relate to?
**[16:49] Kataoka**
I tend not to overthink things,
**[16:52] Kataoka**
and I usually think, as long
as it's funny, anything goes.
**[16:57] Kataoka**
But the thing about having a woman
as the protagonist, it's kinda...
**[17:02] Kataoka**
I know how this might sound to some,
**[17:05] Kataoka**
but when it's something like
"Ashita no Joe," it's easier to empathize.
**[17:09] Kataoka**
But when it's a female main character...
**[17:11] Yuiko**
I know what you mean.
**[17:12] Akira**
First of all, I find it hard to
believe she's naked all the time.
**[17:16] Akira**
That's one thing I can't identify with, at all.
**[17:18] Yuiko**
So you basically have trouble
with the whole premise!
**[17:21] Akira**
I don't think I'd like someone like that.
**[17:23] Akira**
I definitely wouldn't want to
be in a relationship with her.
**[17:25] Akira**
I mean, being butt naked
at home all the time...
**[17:28] Kataoka**
Well, there are nudists out there.
**[17:30] Akira**
Well, yes, but even so...
**[17:31] Akira**
I don't think most men are nudists.
**[17:32] Kataoka**
Yeah, I agree with that.
**[17:34] Yuiko**
So there are more women nudists?
**[17:34] Kataoka**
You always have drawers on at least...
**[17:36] Akira**
I mean, you've got to have underwear on.
**[17:39] Yuiko**
Yeah, I've never heard of anything like it.
**[17:42] Akira**
So because of that...
**[17:43] Akira**
It's like, the first thing I notice about
her is something I can't relate to.
**[17:47] Yuiko**
Makes sense, with the way Ekoda-chan is.
**[17:50] Kataoka**
I see.
***SIGN*** Going into the recording, did you see any similarities
between yourself and Ekoda-chan?
**[17:51] Yuiko**
Well, let's see...
And this might just be because
**[17:54] Yuiko**
of the particular strips that
were picked out for the episode,
**[17:58] Yuiko**
but I agree with what
Director Shigino said...
**[18:03] Yuiko**
That it's less about how Ekoda-chan
lives her life, and her values...
**[18:08] Yuiko**
and more about the comedy value of
the stories, and how fast-paced they are,
**[18:13] Yuiko**
so I didn't think too deeply
about it in the recording.
**[18:17] Yuiko**
I was more focused on the tempo of the
story when I was giving my performance.
***SIGN*** When he was 24...
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
**[18:28] Kataoka**
Putting aside whether you do
the things depicted or not...
**[18:31] Yuiko**
I really don't!
**[18:32] Yuiko**
Is there anything about what she
does that you find impressive?
***SIGN*** Do you think Ekoda-chan is admirable?
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[18:35] Yuiko**
Anything that strikes
you as being admirable?
**[18:37] Yuiko**
It's a good question.
**[18:39] Yuiko**
I mean, she's 24 years old, right?
**[18:42] Yuiko**
Well, I'm 31 right now,
and considering her age...
**[18:48] Yuiko**
It makes me wonder what kind
of person she'll be at my age.
**[18:52] Yuiko**
I mean, when I was 24...
**[18:55] Yuiko**
I was sort of... still a snot-nosed punk, really.
**[18:59] Yuiko**
But here is an adult woman!
**[19:01] Kataoka**
True.
**[19:01] Yuiko**
She seems really grown up!
**[19:03] Yuiko**
It makes me wonder if
she's actually older than me.
**[19:06] Yuiko**
So she seems like she's
from a different world,
**[19:08] Yuiko**
but I'd kinda like to have
the bohemian life she does.
**[19:12] Yuiko**
I mean, it's completely different from mine.
**[19:14] Kataoka**
So in your next life, you might try it?
**[19:16] Yuiko**
Well, maybe not!
**[19:17] Yuiko**
Let's say, three or four lives down the road.
**[19:19] Kataoka**
Right, I understand.
**[19:21] Yuiko**
I'm just curious how it'd turn out.
***SIGN*** Stories from when Director Shigino was 24, Ekoda-chan's age
**[19:24] Akira**
When I was 24, or around that age,
**[19:27] Akira**
I started working in anime.
**[19:28] Yuiko**
Oh, really?
**[19:29] Akira**
I started relatively late.
**[19:31] Akira**
At first, I was working at Tatsunoko...
**[19:34] Akira**
at the age of 24.
**[19:35] Akira**
I see, I see.
**[19:36] Akira**
I was involved with the "Time
Bokan" series and "Yatterman."
**[19:42] Akira**
I seriously worked my butt off.
***SIGN*** Why he started working on anime
**[19:45] Akira**
I actually wanted to be a manga artist,
and that's why I came to Tokyo.
**[19:52] Akira**
But it's not that easy to just
become a manga artist,
**[19:56] Akira**
so I was doing lots of different jobs,
making my way through life.
**[20:00] Akira**
One job and then, another...
Just this and that, you know?
**[20:05] Akira**
And then, one day, I saw an ad for Tatsunoko.
**[20:10] Akira**
And I thought, "Well, it's not manga,
but anime is kinda similar,
**[20:14] Akira**
so I might as well give it a try."
**[20:16] Akira**
I was pretty casual about it.
**[20:18] Akira**
I started the job without knowing a thing
about how anime was actually made.
**[20:21] Yuiko**
So it wasn't because you
particularly liked anime?
**[20:24] Akira**
I didn't even know what
shows Tatsunoko made.
**[20:27] Yuiko**
It's impressive how you started like that
**[20:29] Yuiko**
and just kept going!
**[20:29] Akira**
Yeah, it really is.
**[20:31] Akira**
I mean, I've been in the biz forty years now.
**[20:33] Yuiko**
That's amazing...
***SIGN*** Your thoughts on today
**[20:35] Yuiko**
I've watched the live-action
show, and read the manga,
**[20:39] Yuiko**
so I honestly wasn't sure
if I was capable of...
**[20:42] Yuiko**
well, this kinda surreal,
but also hard to pin down,
**[20:48] Yuiko**
character of Ekoda-chan,
who's a real free spirit.
**[20:53] Yuiko**
But after seeing the scenes
Director Shigino had chosen,
**[20:58] Yuiko**
and the heartwarming look
of the super cute artwork...
**[21:03] Yuiko**
It was kind of a different spin
on Ekoda-chan from the original,
**[21:08] Yuiko**
and I was really glad
I got to take the character
**[21:12] Yuiko**
in such a unique direction.
**[21:15] Yuiko**
Then, after actually coming in today,
and having a great time doing the recording,
**[21:19] Yuiko**
and even getting to do this round
table, it was all very interesting.
**[21:23] Yuiko**
Getting to spend even a little bit of time
in Ekoda-chan's shoes made me really happy.
**[21:29] Yuiko**
I'm really glad to have been involved,
and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
**[21:32] Akira**
It was my first time meeting
a lot of the folks who worked on this.
**[21:36] Akira**
And that was probably the most fun I had.
**[21:38] Akira**
And this is only maybe
my third time in this studio...
**[21:42] Akira**
I haven't come here much before.
**[21:44] Akira**
So there's an overall feeling of freshness,
**[21:46] Akira**
along with sorta being disappointed
**[21:50] Akira**
that it's all over after today.
**[21:53] Yuiko**
Since it turned out well...
**[21:54] Akira**
Like, "Don't bother coming in next week!"
**[21:56] Yuiko**
Even if you want to.
**[21:57] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[21:59] Kataoka**
It was fun.
**[22:00] Kataoka**
I mean, that said, there's
still a lot of work to do.
**[22:06] Kataoka**
And I'm gonna do my best to produce
a really entertaining Ekoda-chan.
**[22:08] Kataoka**
Okay.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
***SIGN*** Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
we'll hear from the director of Episode 4
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:19] Narrator**
on whether or not he thinks
Ekoda-chan is his type.
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[22:23] Narrator**
Ekoda-chan's voice actress
will ask the burning question!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[22:27] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Dog carrier
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan