# Rinshi!! Ekodachan
Ekoda-chan is from the countryside, living alone in the city. She's a temp worker and a strong, carefree soul, with no solid plan for the future, who doesn't care much about guys. She talks about how she lives her life and provides support to all those women trying to survive in the real life society.
Based on a 4-panel manga of the same title, this omnibus form anime will feature a different director, character designer, voice cast, and anime studio for each episode.
# Season 1
# E1
Source: [Crunchyroll](https://www.crunchyroll.com/watch/G6DKEME3R/untitled)
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***SIGN*** Of
***SIGN*** Marr-
iage
***SIGN*** Age
**[00:01] Ekoda**
The name's Ekoda-chan. I'm 24 and
looking for love and a better life.
***SIGN*** Of
***SIGN*** Marr-
iage
***SIGN*** Age
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Episode 1
**[00:05] Ekoda**
To the Ekoda-chan fans looking forward to
this third adaptation, and to all our viewers,
**[00:08] Ekoda**
I say welcome. Ekoda-chan, at your service.
**[00:11] Ekoda**
I live in the Ekoda neighborhood
of Nerima, Tokyo. Hence the name.
**[00:16] Ekoda**
I'm 24, single, and a career butterfly.
**[00:18] Ekoda**
Wanna hear about my
secret bachelorette life?
**[00:21] Ekoda**
You might be asking yourself:
"Why is this chick naked?"
**[00:23] Ekoda**
Oof...
**[00:23] Ekoda**
Saves a lot of time
and money on laundry.
**[00:25] Narrator**
What does a girl like
Ekoda-chan worry about?
**[00:27] Ekoda**
I'm worried I look older than my years.
**[00:29] Ekoda**
When I was 19...
***SIGN*** The bar where she
worked at the time
**[00:30] Customer**
You're, what, 29?
**[00:32] Ekoda**
...he said.
**[00:33] Ekoda**
Since then, people have always assumed
I'm at least three years older than I am.
***SIGN*** Daytime job
co-worker
**[00:35] Coworker**
Wait, you're 24?!
***SIGN*** Daytime job
co-worker
**[00:37] Ekoda**
It's gotten to the point where
I don't know what to believe.
**[00:39] Ekoda**
There's this ex-cop who frequents
the club I work at, who told me I was 35...
**[00:43] Cop**
Quit lying to me! There's no way
you're 24 with a face like that!
**[00:47] Ekoda**
It's an interrogation.
**[00:48] Cop**
I know what I'm talking about!
**[00:49] Ekoda**
So he says.
**[00:50] Ekoda**
You've probably figured this out by now, but
I work a lot of night jobs. 'Cause I'm flat broke.
**[00:54] Ekoda**
But I've got a huge problem:
I'm terrible with faces.
***SIGN*** Glasses
+
Balding
***SIGN*** Glasses
+
Fat
***SIGN*** Glasses
**[00:57] Ekoda**
I tried matching names to seats.
**[00:59] Ekoda**
* From left to right:*
* Nishida, Takahashi, Fujino.*
***SIGN*** Nishida
***SIGN*** Takahashi
***SIGN*** Fujino
**[01:02] Ekoda**
But when I got back from the
bathroom, they'd shuffled around.
**[01:05] Ekoda**
Oh, and I've completely
forgotten their names.
**[01:07] Ekoda**
To all you suits out there: Please
try to show a bit more individuality.
**[01:12] Ekoda**
I found a lizard in my place.
**[01:14] Ekoda**
* Urgh! The thought of it crawling*
* up inside me is freaking me out!*
**[01:16] Ekoda**
Since there was no one around to
save me, I decided to capture it myself.
***SIGN*** Bowl
***SIGN*** Piece
of paper
**[01:20] Ekoda**
After an epic 20-minute
battle, I emerged victorious.
**[01:23] Ekoda**
I wonder what it's like to have a pet...
**[01:27] Ekoda**
This old lady suddenly started
bawling on my morning commute.
**[01:30] Ekoda**
She let out a wail, then
buried her face in her hands.
**[01:32] Ekoda**
Everyone was shooting her furtive glances
while pretending nothing was happening.
**[01:36] Narrator**
And yet, Ekoda-chan also acted
like nothing was happening.
**[01:39] Ekoda**
This is kinda sick.
**[01:40] Ekoda**
So that's what happened.
**[01:41] Boyfriend**
Huh.
**[01:42] Ekoda**
When stuff like that happens,
the way we just pretend not to notice...
**[01:45] Ekoda**
I mean, isn't society weird?
**[01:47] Boyfriend**
Maybe her husband was cheating on her.
**[01:49] Ekoda**
That's not what I was getting at.
**[01:51] Ekoda**
Just another example of how much
gets lost in communication.
**[01:55] Ekoda**
At the club...
**[01:56] Ekoda**
Welcome! Let me join you.
**[01:58] Ekoda**
I take my seat and...
**[01:59] Goon**
Y'know, I'm kind of a big deal in Shinjuku.
**[02:02] Goon**
This club, that girl, and that one
too, and that waiter over there...
**[02:05] Goon**
Everyone calls me ********-san!
**[02:08] Ekoda**
Oh, wow.
***SIGN*** You're freakin'
delusional
**[02:09] Ekoda**
You're freakin' delusional.
***SIGN*** You're freakin'
delusional
***SIGN*** You're freakin'
delusional
***SIGN*** You're freakin'
delusional
**[02:10] Ekoda**
The only thing that can replenish me
after working all day and night...
***SIGN*** Stopped
***SIGN*** menstruating
***SIGN*** because
***SIGN*** too overworked
***SIGN*** Dog
**[02:15] Ekoda**
...is a dog.
**[02:16] Ekoda**
Dosukoi!
***SIGN*** Warning:
This isn't her dog
**[02:18] Ekoda**
I've been visiting my favorite dog lately.
**[02:20] Boyfriend**
You have a favorite dog?
**[02:24] Ekoda**
I headed home for the first time in a while.
***SIGN*** Roughly here
**[02:25] Friend**
It's been so long!
***SIGN*** High School Friend
***SIGN*** Her
Husband
**[02:27] Ekoda**
Oh, you got married?
**[02:28] Friend**
Yeah!
**[02:28] Ekoda**
It's the kinda town where you bump into
old friends on your way to the Jysko store.
**[02:32] Ekoda**
It really has been a long time.
**[02:33] Friend**
So where are your kids?
**[02:34] Ekoda**
Don't have any. No husband, either.
**[02:36] Friend**
I haven't seen you in ages!
I've started plucking my eyebrows.
**[02:39] Ekoda**
Time flows faster out in the sticks.
I feel like an inverse Urashima Taro.
**[02:42] Boyfriend**
So you visited your parents?
**[02:43] Ekoda**
Yeah.
**[02:44] Boyfriend**
What kinda stuff did you do?
**[02:45] Ekoda**
They wanted me to help
out with the family business,
**[02:47] Ekoda**
so I stuck some cattle on a truck
and headed down the highway,
**[02:50] Ekoda**
but a ton of horsehair
crabs had come ashore,
**[02:52] Ekoda**
and I ended up having to run
them all over. It was a trip.
**[02:56] Boyfriend**
For real? What a waste of crab meat.
**[02:58] Ekoda**
He actually believed me?
**[03:32] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
***SIGN*** 12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
***SIGN*** we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode,
***SIGN*** and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
***SIGN*** Today, we unveil the director behind episode one: Daichi Akitaro,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** and Ekoda-chan's VA: Ishida Haruka-san!
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** In this episode, we'll learn about the production process,
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Director
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
**[04:04] Narrator**
and former idol, Ishida-san,
shares some stories with us.
**[04:07] Narrator**
Up close and personal!
**[04:09] ---**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** You mentioned before the recording that
you don't usually take jobs like this...?
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[04:18] Director**
It's a 12-episode series and there's
a different director every episode.
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Ekoda-san
Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Director
Daichi Akitaro
**[04:22] Director**
I've done a few shows like this before.
**[04:25] Director**
But none of them did very well.
**[04:27] Director**
There's another reason...
and it's just personal taste,
**[04:33] Director**
but I've worked on full
series for so long now...
**[04:36] Director**
that I feel like I have to work on
at least six episodes of a show, you know?
**[04:39] Director**
Otherwise, I have trouble
even remembering them.
**[04:42] Director**
That's why, the idea of a show
with so much source material,
**[04:44] Director**
slated for a 12-episode run...
**[04:45] Director**
It made me think, "Why just
the one episode?!" you know?
**[04:48] Director**
So all that was going on
in my head coming into this.
**[04:50] Director**
When I worked on shows
with a similar format before,
**[04:52] Director**
not knowing how things would
turn out in future episodes...
**[04:55] Director**
It was really... Well, when I'd done
my bit, I still felt really frustrated.
**[05:00] Director**
Because of that, to be honest,
I had half a mind to turn down the gig,
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[05:05] Director**
but since it was Kataoka-san asking...
***SIGN*** And 'cause he'd been working on it for so long, I felt I had to pitch in.
**[05:11] Kataoka**
I remember asking you
about it 12 years ago.
**[05:14] Kataoka**
And at the time,
you said, "Sure, I'll do it!"
**[05:17] Kataoka**
So I figured you couldn't turn me
down when the time actually came.
**[05:20] Question**
Was there anything about Ekoda-chan's
lifestyle that you could relate to?
**[05:20] Ishida**
I think the fact that we're
the same age was a big factor.
**[05:25] Director**
Oh, yeah, you two are the same age.
**[05:26] Ishida**
Yep, we're both the same age.
**[05:27] Ishida**
We're both... We're both 24.
**[05:29] Ishida**
Oh, and another thing...
I actually have a pet lizard.
**[05:33] Ishida**
So that's a big difference between
me and her, I'd say. Other than that...
**[05:36] Director**
She was worried it would
crawl up inside her.
**[05:38] Ishida**
You've got a point!
**[05:40] Ishida**
If that was me, I don't think I'd mind.
**[05:42] Director**
Yeah?
**[05:42] Ishida**
As long as it was just
in my ear or something.
**[05:46] Director**
Awesome.
**[05:48] Ishida**
In recording, they really... Well, they
basically let me do whatever I wanted.
**[05:54] Ishida**
And afterwards, bit by bit, we drilled
down into what worked and what didn't,
**[05:58] Ishida**
and I think, together, we came up
with my own version of Ekoda-chan,
**[06:02] Ishida**
with the help of everyone
else in the booth.
**[06:05] Ishida**
I'm really glad we had
so much fun doing it.
**[06:09] Kataoka**
Daichi-san, is there anything in particular
that stands out about Ekoda-chan's lifestyle?
**[06:14] Kataoka**
Or anything you can relate to?
**[06:16] Daichi**
For me... Not one bit of it.
**[06:18] Daichi**
For one thing, I'm a man.
**[06:19] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[06:20] Daichi**
One thing in particular
I really don't get is, like...
**[06:24] Daichi**
Why Ekoda? You know what I mean?
**[06:27] Daichi**
I mean, when I think about Ekoda, there's
this subculture vibe surrounding her,
**[06:32] Daichi**
but she's... she's not really what
you'd call "alternative," is she?
**[06:36] Daichi**
And the manga doesn't
scream "alternative," either.
**[06:39] Daichi**
So I honestly don't know
how that works, exactly.
**[06:43] Daichi**
I mean... If this was a title
I was doing lots of work on,
**[06:46] Daichi**
that's something I'd explore in depth.
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 1 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[06:54] Daichi**
It was kind of convenient having
the star cast so far in advance.
***SIGN*** Ishida Haruka was cast as Ekoda-chan
the moment the project was green-lit.
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
**[07:00] Kataoka**
I see.
**[07:01] Daichi**
"We're halfway there," I thought.
**[07:02] Daichi**
I think the first time
we worked together,
**[07:04] Daichi**
it was on "Poyopoyo,"
another short-form series.
**[07:08] Daichi**
That was another anime
based on a 4-koma manga.
**[07:13] Daichi**
And she was just...
well, an extra, really.
**[07:15] Ishida**
I really was! I had,
like, two lines, tops.
**[07:18] Daichi**
Seriously?
**[07:18] Ishida**
Yeah, that was all.
**[07:19] Daichi**
But in spite of that, she
made a strong impression...
**[07:24] Kataoka**
That's impressive.
**[07:24] Daichi**
She had something, you know?
**[07:26] Daichi**
And it's like... I know how this sounds,
but it's not like her performance was stellar.
**[07:29] Ishida**
Yeah, I understand.
**[07:30] Daichi**
Like, her reading didn't
knock my socks off,
**[07:32] Daichi**
but there was something
about it that appealed to me.
**[07:35] Daichi**
It's the kind of thing that makes me
think, and I wonder this all the time,
**[07:37] Daichi**
but what *exactly* makes a good VA?
**[07:40] Daichi**
Like, how do you make that distinction?
**[07:43] Daichi**
So from that point on, ping! Ishida
Haruka's cadence was lodged in my brain.
**[07:49] Daichi**
And it stayed there.
I didn't want to get rid of it.
**[07:51] Daichi**
So the question became,
"Well, what kind of voice *did* she have?"
**[07:55] Daichi**
And after that, I watched you
on YouTube, and started thinking:
**[07:59] Daichi**
"Yeah, she'd be absolutely
perfect for something like this."
**[08:03] Daichi**
So then, we met up. We had a meeting.
**[08:07] Daichi**
We hadn't seen each other in a bit.
**[08:07] Ishida**
It was our first meeting for a while.
**[08:09] Daichi**
And it was the only chance
we'd had to talk at the time.
**[08:13] Daichi**
So I wanted to meet up with her
and see if we could work something out.
**[08:17] Daichi**
I told her about the kind
of role it was going to be,
**[08:22] Daichi**
and then, sat at that table,
I asked her to do a quick reading.
**[08:26] Ishida**
That's right! Out of nowhere.
**[08:27] Daichi**
I did a voice memo. On my iPhone.
**[08:29] Ishida**
Yeah. Yeah.
**[08:31] Daichi**
It was then that I was like,
"That was even cuter than I remembered."
**[08:35] Ishida**
Yeah, it turned out really cute.
**[08:36] Daichi**
It was.
**[08:38] Daichi**
But that was the Ekoda-chan
I wanted. I was satisfied.
**[08:42] Daichi**
It was at that moment that I decided
Ishida Haruka-san was right for the role.
**[08:46] Daichi**
I didn't have any other questions.
**[08:48] Daichi**
It was a bit like that today, too,
where I gave some feedback
**[08:53] Daichi**
just to sort of polish
up the performance.
**[08:56] Kataoka**
Something I like about
Daichi-san's projects
***SIGN*** Things Director Daichi is particular
about when working on anime
**[08:58] Kataoka**
is how they have
a real sense of rhythm.
**[09:01] Kataoka**
Everything has such a nice flow.
**[09:03] Daichi**
You make an *excellent* point.
**[09:05] Daichi**
It's about timing, y'know?
**[09:06] Kataoka**
Right, the pacing.
**[09:07] Daichi**
They say that how you pace
things sets the rhythm.
**[09:10] Daichi**
But it's about more than just keeping
things moving at a good tempo.
**[09:14] Daichi**
When it comes to timing,
you need quiet moments, too.
**[09:16] Daichi**
Just... That kind of pause.
**[09:19] Daichi**
And if you don't use breaks in the
dialog and action like that sparingly,
**[09:23] Daichi**
the scene won't be the
least bit funny or touching.
**[09:28] Daichi**
So timing is important.
**[09:29] Kataoka**
From what I saw today,
you nailed it.
**[09:31] Daichi**
Yeah, we tried our best.
**[09:34] Kataoka**
There were scenes where I realized,
if it lasted too long, it would drag.
**[09:39] Kataoka**
And there were bits where
you could speed things up,
**[09:41] Kataoka**
but you had to take extra care
to make sure every beat landed.
**[09:46] Daichi**
Yeah. It's all about
timing and... inflection.
**[09:50] Ishida**
Yeah, with inflection...
**[09:52] Daichi**
So it's like, every line boils down
to its punctuation and its inflection.
**[09:58] Daichi**
They're two sides of the same coin.
**[10:00] Daichi**
So I'm a stickler when it comes
to getting the right inflection.
**[10:04] Daichi**
Since this is a short-form series,
and I'm only on the one episode,
***SIGN*** Did the short format of the show
help you accomplish any specific goals?
**[10:07] Daichi**
I wanted to put my mark on it.
**[10:09] Daichi**
So, ultimately, what I wanted
to do boiled down to...
**[10:12] Daichi**
and this really gets back to how I'd
intended to turn down the offer at first,
**[10:17] Daichi**
but when Kataoka-san asked
if I wanted to do it...
**[10:22] Daichi**
I thought: "If I'm going to do this,
how am I gonna do it?"
**[10:25] Daichi**
I mean, throwing yourself into
something is good and all,
**[10:28] Daichi**
but the most important
thing is to have fun.
**[10:30] Daichi**
So we booked the studio
for two hours today,
**[10:33] Daichi**
and we made full use of it.
**[10:34] Ishida**
Right. We did.
**[10:36] Kataoka**
It was over pretty fast, though.
**[10:37] Kataoka**
I'm sorry there wasn't any more time.
**[10:39] Daichi**
No, no, it's fine.
**[10:40] Daichi**
And since we finished up with
about four minutes to spare,
**[10:42] Daichi**
we considered doing
another take of a scene.
**[10:44] Daichi**
That kind of thing is always fun.
**[10:46] Daichi**
Then, it was like,
"And we're out of time."
**[10:48] Daichi**
And we had to cut it.
**[10:50] Daichi**
But being able to do things like that,
and having a whale of a time...
**[10:53] Daichi**
One other thing I wanted to make
sure I did, since it's a short,
**[10:55] Daichi**
was to finish editing everything in about
an hour, and then, listen to the final product.
**[11:00] Ishida**
Right. It was great,
hearing the final thing.
**[11:02] Daichi**
When you're working on a series,
that kind of thing is usually impossible.
**[11:06] Daichi**
But getting the chance
to do that here was great.
**[11:08] Daichi**
We all got to laugh at it,
all of us together.
**[11:12] Ishida**
It was very funny.
**[11:12] Daichi**
Right?
**[11:14] Daichi**
The thing about
Ekoda-chan as a manga
***SIGN*** On the depth of the original "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga
**[11:17] Daichi**
is the more you read it,
the more it sort of *surprises* you.
**[11:22] Daichi**
It's got real depth to it. It's difficult
to even figure out what genre it is.
**[11:25] Daichi**
I mean, it's not exactly a comedy.
**[11:27] Daichi**
It isn't really slice-of-life, either.
**[11:28] Daichi**
That's the thing about "Rinshi!!
Ekoda-chan." It transcends genres.
**[11:32] Daichi**
"Rinshi" – living on the edge –
sums it up nicely.
**[11:35] Daichi**
Yeah, there's.... There's a lot to it.
**[11:37] Daichi**
The serialization's come to an end now,
but it never really lost its way.
**[11:41] Daichi**
Like, at the very end, same as in
this episode, her boyfriend shows up.
**[11:45] Daichi**
He was there all the way through.
**[11:46] Kataoka**
Right, right...
**[11:47] Daichi**
It stayed solid.
**[11:49] Daichi**
But over time, new characters
gradually got added to the cast list.
**[11:54] Daichi**
And the thematic stuff,
and the presentation...
**[11:58] Daichi**
The title ended without ever losing
any of its characteristic traits.
***SIGN*** In the director's view, what is "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" about?
**[12:03] Daichi**
Each strip reflects something
personal about the artist.
**[12:08] Daichi**
I might not always
know exactly what it is,
**[12:10] Daichi**
but even so, that's
the impression I get.
**[12:12] Daichi**
I feel like the link it has with
its creator is ever-present.
**[12:17] Kataoka**
Right?
**[12:18] Daichi**
And it doesn't beat
around the bush about it.
**[12:21] Daichi**
Y'know, thinking about it,
**[12:24] Daichi**
and I mentioned this
when we met up,
**[12:27] Daichi**
but it has a "New York" feel to it.
**[12:28] Ishida**
Like a New Yorker.
**[12:29] Daichi**
That's how I approached it.
**[12:30] Kataoka**
Wait, what do you mean?
**[12:33] Daichi**
I produced my work on it while picturing
her as a New York career woman.
**[12:39] Daichi**
So she's always cool and collected,
and keeps a lid on her emotions.
**[12:43] Daichi**
She has emotions, sure, like everyone.
But she doesn't really show them.
**[12:47] Daichi**
To me, that's what
gives it a "New York" feel.
**[12:49] Kataoka**
I get what you mean.
**[12:50] Kataoka**
Like, "I'm East Coast, not West Coast!"
***SIGN*** After the break, we're back
with Ishida Haruka-san: Exposed!!
**[12:51] Daichi**
Right!
**[12:53] Kataoka**
"That's not how I do things!"
**[12:54] Kataoka**
Yeah, that's it.
**[12:56] Daichi**
That's exactly what I mean.
The whole East Coast thing.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** Episode 1's Director
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:07] Narrator**
In the first half, we heard about director
Daichi Akitaro's anime preferences.
**[13:13] Narrator**
In the second half, we'll hear from
former idol, Ishida Haruka-san,
**[13:16] Narrator**
and get the naked truth from her...
in more ways than one!
**[13:19] Narrator**
Eyes front, people!
***SIGN*** The Entire Backstory
of Ishida Haruka-san
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
**[13:25] Ishida**
Well, when I was 13,
I joined AKB48,
***SIGN*** Sum up your life story, Ishida Haruka-san
**[13:29] Ishida**
and before that,
all I really did was judo.
**[13:32] Daichi**
Judo?
**[13:33] Ishida**
I did judo, yeah.
**[13:34] Ishida**
Seven years of it, in lessons
and after-school clubs.
**[13:39] Ishida**
And then, all of a sudden
I ended up as an idol. Yeah.
**[13:44] Ishida**
Well, one day, I'd like to answer
"a voice actress" to that.
***SIGN*** What would you say your main job is at the moment?
**[13:48] Ishida**
But right now, I guess I would say
I'm more of a gaming personality.
**[13:51] Ishida**
I play a lot of games, and
my work centers around them.
**[13:54] Ishida**
Not like... *acting* in them,
just playing them.
**[13:59] Ishida**
A lot of times, my job
is simply to play games.
***SIGN*** Do you get a lot of acting roles?
**[14:03] Ishida**
Well, I'd say I don't
get a ton of them...
**[14:07] Ishida**
I think that, when it comes to theater,
I mostly do recitation dramas.
**[14:10] Ishida**
Getting up on stage
and reading scripts...
**[14:14] Ishida**
That's the majority of my
acting roles at the moment.
***SIGN*** What genres do you tend to do work in?
**[14:17] Ishida**
Let's see... I guess
trials come up a lot.
**[14:20] Ishida**
Usually, the shows are adapted from novels,
and a lot of them have court scenes.
**[14:24] Ishida**
Like, "This person is gonna
be executed!" kinda stories.
**[14:28] Daichi**
That's crazy.
**[14:29] Daichi**
What kind of roles do
you play in those shows?
**[14:32] Ishida**
Well, the one I'm thinking of,
I was cast as a programmer.
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** What kind of role was it?
**[14:36] Ishida**
Other than that... let's see...
**[14:38] Ishida**
And then, I was actually cast in a game
from the same franchise as the play,
**[14:43] Ishida**
and in that one, I played
a girl who was seriously crazy.
**[14:47] Daichi**
That programmer...
What was she like?
**[14:50] Daichi**
Oh, the programmer was
the really bashful type.
**[14:54] Daichi**
Like, really cute and smile-inducing.
**[14:57] Kataoka**
When you have
to play a bashful girl,
**[14:59] Kataoka**
how do you find that
bring that out of yourself?
**[15:03] Kataoka**
You're not shy, after all.
**[15:04] Ishida**
No, I'm not. Not at all, really.
**[15:05] Kataoka**
You're more aggressive.
**[15:07] Ishida**
I'm not! I'm definitely not aggressive!
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** The trick to playing bashful characters
**[15:09] Ishida**
But, y'know, bashfulness...
**[15:12] Ishida**
At the time, I was still kinda
nervous around others,
**[15:15] Ishida**
so I feel like I'm going through life
**[15:17] Ishida**
constantly telling myself
not to be so nervous now.
**[15:21] Ishida**
But with shyness, if you just accept it,
you'll never be anything else.
**[15:25] Ishida**
So I just try to be more open.
**[15:28] Ishida**
And when I was doing that role,
**[15:30] Ishida**
I was still in my bashful phase,
so it was really easy.
**[15:33] Ishida**
Yeah, I think I was 19 at the time.
**[15:35] Daichi**
So you took your bashful side...
**[15:37] Ishida**
Yeah, I took that part of myself.
**[15:38] Daichi**
And if anything, that's
closer to who you really are?
**[15:40] Ishida**
Yeah.
**[15:41] Ishida**
Like, if I had to choose, the version
of me that goes out and parties,
**[15:44] Ishida**
that kind of thing, is something
I don't have much experience of,
**[15:47] Ishida**
so I find that harder, yeah.
**[15:49] Daichi**
Did you get more of those
kinds of roles afterwards?
**[15:51] Ishida**
Those kinds of roles?
**[15:51] Ishida**
Did you find you were getting typecast?
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** What kind of roles do you tend to get?
**[15:54] Ishida**
Good question.
**[15:54] Daichi**
I mean...
**[15:55] Daichi**
It kinda makes you question how
the world at large sees you, right?
**[15:59] Ishida**
Come to think of it,
I really haven't done
**[16:01] Ishida**
a lot of super energetic roles.
**[16:03] Daichi**
You haven't?
**[16:04] Ishida**
It's one thing I haven't done a lot...
**[16:06] Daichi**
Even today.
**[16:08] Daichi**
While we were recording,
**[16:09] Daichi**
you really kept a lid
on your energy levels.
**[16:11] Daichi**
You didn't start bouncing around.
**[16:14] Ishida**
Energetic... I think I've only really
ever had one role you'd call energetic.
**[16:18] Ishida**
When I was playing one of those
"full of energy" idol types.
**[16:20] Daichi**
As an idol, huh?
**[16:22] Daichi**
Are there any roles
you'd like to play?
**[16:23] Ishida**
My ideal role? Let me think...
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
**[16:25] ---**
What kind of role would you like to play?
**[16:26] Ishida**
Personally speaking,
one day, I'd like to...
**[16:29] Ishida**
Well, I've done it a few
times before, but...
**[16:32] Ishida**
the thing I'd like to be known for
**[16:35] Ishida**
is playing young boys.
**[16:37] Daichi**
Young boys?
**[16:37] Ishida**
The kind of plucky, energetic kids you
get in anime shows that air in the morning.
**[16:41] Ishida**
A young role...
**[16:42] Kataoka**
A young boy.
**[16:43] Ishida**
Either playing a young boy, or just being
in any kind of anime that kids watch.
**[16:48] Ishida**
That'd be my dream.
**[16:49] Daichi**
Like this show?
**[16:51] Daichi**
When you did that sumo wrestling bit,
that's the most energetic I've ever seen you.
**[16:55] Ishida**
Well, when I did judo, I'd do a kiai
when throwing people, you know?
***SIGN*** Ishida-san's childhood
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
**[16:59] Ishida**
Like, when I actually threw them.
**[17:01] Ishida**
And my family would make fun of me,
because they thought it sounded
**[17:04] Ishida**
like I was going "meow" when I did it.
**[17:04] Daichi**
Like a cat?
**[17:05] Ishida**
Yeah, they'd be like,
"You just said 'meow'!"
**[17:07] Ishida**
I apparently did that
when I threw people.
**[17:09] Ishida**
I wasn't particularly
good at it or anything.
**[17:11] Ishida**
But I really used to enjoy
playing in the mud.
**[17:14] Ishida**
I didn't have any dolls or anything,
**[17:16] Ishida**
so I used to play in
empty lots, like a tomboy.
**[17:19] Ishida**
Wherever there was sand.
**[17:21] Ishida**
I was a bit of a tomboy
when I was younger.
**[17:23] Daichi**
A tomboy?
**[17:23] Ishida**
Yeah.
***SIGN*** "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
and its depths
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Thoughts on Episode 1 of Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[17:29] Ishida**
When I was reading the source
material, I kinda got this feeling...
**[17:35] Ishida**
It's like what you were saying.
It really gave me a strong "New York" vibe.
**[17:39] Ishida**
That was the impression
I got as I was reading.
**[17:43] Ishida**
Almost like it was based on
the life of an actual New Yorker.
**[17:48] Ishida**
The impression you get with
career-oriented people in New York
**[17:54] Ishida**
is that they pretend not to worry,
and focus on their work,
**[17:57] Ishida**
but deep down, they're still
concerned about their personal lives.
**[18:01] Ishida**
So when they get home,
they feel a bit lonely,
**[18:03] Ishida**
but still try to play it cool.
**[18:06] Ishida**
That's why, whether there was a lizard
in her apartment or she was at work,
**[18:11] Ishida**
I wanted her to have that kind
of feel, no matter where she was.
**[18:15] Ishida**
And I think we really
nailed that, personally.
**[18:19] Ishida**
Like, "This is New York style!"
**[18:21] Ishida**
A New Yorker.
**[18:22] Daichi**
Right, right.
**[18:23] Daichi**
Like, she just trails off when
she's wondering about pets.
**[18:26] Daichi**
I really love that part.
**[18:27] Ishida**
That was fun to do!
**[18:30] Ishida**
I gave it that little pause.
**[18:30] Daichi**
While she's staring at it.
**[18:32] Daichi**
She was so scared at first,
**[18:33] Daichi**
but then, she's like, "I wonder
what it's like to have a pet."
**[18:35] Daichi**
She even says that.
**[18:36] Ishida**
Yeah, she did.
**[18:36] Daichi**
The fact that she's talking to herself
**[18:38] Daichi**
is what makes it so funny.
**[18:40] Daichi**
That might be my favorite
part of the episode.
**[18:44] Ishida**
Good question! I think the thing
that stands out the most,
***SIGN*** What are your favorite, or most relatable parts,
of the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga?
**[18:47] Ishida**
or what left the biggest impression
on me when I was reading through,
**[18:51] Ishida**
was the completely insane
number of men in it.
**[18:54] Daichi**
Yeah.
**[18:55] Ishida**
That's something about
Ekoda-chan's life...
**[18:57] Ishida**
If I'm ever reincarnated,
I'd like to be someone like that.
**[19:02] Ishida**
Because with my current situation,
as things are right now...
**[19:06] Ishida**
I mean, I went straight into
showbiz at the age of 13,
**[19:11] Ishida**
and I'm now in my 12th year...
**[19:13] Ishida**
I spent a lot of my youth working
in the entertainment industry,
**[19:19] Ishida**
so it's like... How should I put it?
**[19:21] Ishida**
It's the only world I know,
**[19:22] Ishida**
and I've gone through life
only thinking about work.
**[19:25] Ishida**
So it's not like I can just start again
and have a life like Ekoda-chan's.
**[19:30] Daichi**
I see.
**[19:31] Ishida**
We're both 24, but we've led
totally different lives,
**[19:34] Ishida**
so while there *are*
things I can relate to,
**[19:37] Ishida**
with things like her interactions
with men, romantic interests,
**[19:39] Ishida**
and just relationships in general,
we're pretty different.
**[19:43] Ishida**
So if I had another crack at life,
I'd try it Ekoda-chan's way.
**[19:45] Daichi**
That's a good point. She's a free
spirit who goes with the flow.
**[19:50] Daichi**
Then, she gets home,
**[19:51] Daichi**
looks back on the day,
**[19:52] Ishida**
Right.
**[19:52] Daichi**
and pretty much starts
headbutting the wall.
**[19:55] Ishida**
I think a lot of what
she does is really cute.
**[20:00] Daichi**
I'd say it's more like
it *turned out* cute.
**[20:02] Ishida**
You think so?
**[20:03] Daichi**
That was your performance.
**[20:04] Daichi**
Everyone was going,
"So cute! So cute!" today.
**[20:07] Daichi**
That part where you go "Welcome!"...
**[20:10] Daichi**
That was probably the cutest
line you delivered all day.
**[20:14] Kataoka**
It made me want
to visit that place.
**[20:17] Ishida**
Hitting the club.
**[20:19] Daichi**
Maybe it's a cute club.
***SIGN*** It sometimes feels like the words "beautiful"
and "cute" are left out of the Ekoda-chan manga
**[20:22] Daichi**
That goes contrary to
what we've said today.
**[20:25] Ishida**
Right.
**[20:26] Kataoka**
Daichi-san and me have never been described
as "beautiful" at any point in our lives.
**[20:31] Kataoka**
So we've put the whole idea
**[20:33] Kataoka**
of attractiveness out of our minds.
**[20:34] Daichi**
Yeah, I don't worry about it.
**[20:34] Kataoka**
Not even for a moment.
**[20:36] Kataoka**
When the subject of attractive men
comes up, I go, "None of my business."
**[20:39] Daichi**
Yeah, if it comes up,
I have nothing to say.
**[20:40] Ishida**
Nothing to contribute?
**[20:43] Daichi**
Well, it just doesn't
factor into my life.
**[20:46] Kataoka**
Today, Daichi-san, you played
one of the old-timers who...
**[20:51] ---**
Suddenly, it gets dirty!
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
**[20:51] Daichi**
I was one of the three old men.
**[20:52] Kataoka**
Right.
**[20:52] Daichi**
What did we talk about?
**[20:53] Ishida**
Something to do with left...
**[20:54] Daichi**
The left of something...
**[20:54] Ishida**
About preferring the left.
**[20:56] Daichi**
When I was editing it,
I thought, "This is kind of crude."
**[20:59] Daichi**
It came across like a dirty joke.
**[21:01] Ishida**
I see!
**[21:02] Daichi**
Three old dudes saying, "So you use
your right?" "You use your left?"
**[21:05] Daichi**
"Hell *yeah* I use my left."
**[21:07] Kataoka**
That's right.
**[21:09] Daichi**
I didn't really get it
until afterwards.
**[21:11] Ishida**
Me neither.
***SIGN*** Talk about today's recording
**[21:12] Ishida**
Well, this was my first time
doing voice-overs in a long time.
**[21:17] Ishida**
About a year, I think?
**[21:20] Ishida**
So I'm really sorry
if I was a little rusty,
**[21:24] Ishida**
but I really had a lot of fun
portraying Ekoda-chan,
**[21:29] Ishida**
and I feel like I've
become a fan of hers.
**[21:33] Ishida**
And that's what I'm taking away
most from this project.
**[21:37] Ishida**
There's the other
episodes to watch, too,
**[21:40] Ishida**
so I'm really looking forward
to checking those out.
**[21:43] Daichi**
Like I said, if we do this,
we should have fun,
**[21:45] Daichi**
so that's what we did in
the hours in the studio.
**[21:48] Daichi**
And I feel like we made the best product
we could while having a great time.
**[21:53] Daichi**
I even did some lines myself.
**[21:54] Ishida**
Right.
**[21:56] Daichi**
Though, it's weird listening to them,
so we might redo those lines.
**[22:00] Daichi**
But I honestly had
a good time making this.
**[22:05] Daichi**
And that's all
I have to say. Yeah.
**[22:08] Daichi**
Thank you.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
***SIGN*** Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
***SIGN*** we'll touch on the hidden depths of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:19] Narrator**
and how it had the director of Episode 2
and Ekoda-chan's VA on the ropes!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:24] Narrator**
Talk about a manga with depth!
**[22:27] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Lizard
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Sweatpants
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** "In Between Morning and Night"
**[00:07] Ekoda**
*Pluck.*
**[00:09] Ekoda**
* There's a theory that children are more*
* likely to survive plane crashes than adults.*
**[00:16] Boyfriend**
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I know, I hear you.
**[00:20] Ekoda**
* Apparently, their bodies are more supple,*
* their muscles more relaxed.*
**[00:24] Ekoda**
* Which means there's less chance*
* an impact will do serious damage.*
**[00:27] Ekoda**
*Or so they say.*
**[00:28] Boyfriend**
Did you grow your hair out?
**[00:30] Boyfriend**
Huh? I told you, you should.
**[00:33] Boyfriend**
Chiyoko, I'm positive you'd
look better with long hair.
**[00:36] Ekoda**
*If you just relax and hold still...*
**[00:40] Ekoda**
*something like this won't hurt... one bit.*
**[00:45] Boyfriend**
Of course I'm not cheating on you.
**[00:47] Ekoda**
*And won't do much damage.*
**[00:54] Ekoda**
Caution
**[01:02] Ekoda**
So long...
**[01:05] Ekoda**
*All I've been doing is waiting.*
**[01:07] Ekoda**
*Should I give up and find a new path?*
**[01:11] Ekoda**
* But if I give up now, all the time*
* I've spent waiting will be for nothing.*
**[01:12] Ekoda**
Caution
**[01:16] Ekoda**
*It doesn't matter how long it takes.*
**[01:18] Ekoda**
*One day, after I've won this war of attrition,*
**[01:20] Ekoda**
* my triumph will prove*
* that all this was worth it.*
**[01:24] Ekoda**
*As long as I keep believing that...*
**[01:26] Boyfriend**
You know I love you.
**[01:33] Boyfriend**
And I won't cheat on you, okay?
**[01:37] Ekoda**
*Chiyoko... I wish she wasn't in the picture.*
**[01:40] Ekoda**
*No,* he's *the real problem here.*
**[01:46] Ekoda**
*Thing is, if I start telling myself that,*
**[01:48] Ekoda**
* it renders hanging on*
* as long as I have meaningless.*
**[01:51] Boyfriend**
Okay. I'll call you again later.
**[01:53] Boyfriend**
Yeah. See you.
**[02:03] Ekoda**
You wanna do it again?
**[02:07] Boyfriend**
I've got an early start tomorrow, so nah.
**[02:10] Ekoda**
Okay.
**[02:20] Ekoda**
* If I face toward him,*
* it feels like I'm begging...*
**[02:24] Ekoda**
*But if I face away, it looks like I'm sulking.*
**[02:29] Ekoda**
* Lying like this feels like some kind of*
* desperate compromise, and that's pathetic.*
**[02:35] Ekoda**
* But... if I'm gonna be*
* totally honest with myself...*
**[03:32] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:45] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
This week, we unveil the director
of Episode 2: Sugii Gisaburo,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Park Romi-san!
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Park Romi
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Director
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Park Romi
**[04:02] Narrator**
What does it mean to be a woman?
And just who is Ekoda-chan?
**[04:06] Narrator**
They'll even talk about the
depth of the original manga!
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** What went through your head when you were
approached about working on the anime adaptation?
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
**[04:18] Sugii**
To be honest, well...
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Director
Sugii Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Park Romi
**[04:20] Sugii**
The Ekoda-chan manga wasn't even on my radar,
**[04:26] Sugii**
so when Kataoka-san contacted me about
directing, he brought along the first volume.
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:30] Sugii**
And as I was flipping through,
**[04:33] Sugii**
I couldn't help asking: "Why do you
want *me* for this adaptation?"
**[04:40] Sugii**
I didn't really understand why.
**[04:42] Sugii**
So I asked him directly:
**[04:46] Sugii**
"Kataoka-san, why'd you choose me for this?"
**[04:48] Sugii**
And he says to me, "Well, Ekoda-chan here..."
**[04:54] Sugii**
"The protagonist. I want to show
how she lives, as a woman."
**[05:00] Sugii**
"And I think you're the best
person to do that, Sugii-san."
**[05:05] Sugii**
So I agreed, even though I didn't
really understand what he meant.
**[05:08] Sugii**
That was how the
conversation went, wasn't it?
**[05:11] Sugii**
I honestly had no idea
why you wanted me for this.
**[05:14] Sugii**
Well, we'd actually worked
together once before.
***SIGN*** Why did you choose Park Romi for the lead role?
**[05:20] Sugii**
On a show which had Maruyama-san as
producer. I call him Marutan.
**[05:26] Sugii**
And whenever he's involved,
he takes the reins.
**[05:28] Sugii**
So I didn't really have much input.
**[05:32] Sugii**
For the most part,
I let Maruyama-san handle things.
**[05:36] Sugii**
But seeing you working with him made me
want to work with you. That was it.
**[05:42] Romi**
Really?
**[05:43] Sugii**
For a really long time, I kept thinking:
**[05:45] Sugii**
"If the opportunity arises,
I'd like to work with Park-san."
**[05:49] Sugii**
And I happened to be working
with Maruyama-san again recently...
**[05:52] Sugii**
And I told him, "Well, if I do this,
I'd like to get Park-san."
**[05:55] Sugii**
And his response was, "Hey, great idea!"
**[05:57] Romi**
Really? Wow!
**[05:59] Romi**
That's great to hear.
**[06:01] Sugii**
That was where it began.
**[06:02] Sugii**
So if I'm being totally honest,
**[06:05] Sugii**
in order for me to actually direct this...
**[06:09] Sugii**
I was having a really hard time settling
on how I wanted to approach it.
**[06:13] Sugii**
So... and this is just my gut
talking, but Ekoda-chan...
**[06:19] Sugii**
Even putting aside how much
I wanted to work with you...
**[06:23] Sugii**
Something about her...
**[06:25] Sugii**
I feel like you and her
have something in common.
**[06:30] Sugii**
I just get that feeling, for some reason.
**[06:32] Romi**
Well, I wasn't really familiar
with Ekoda-chan beforehand,
***SIGN*** What went through your head when
Director Sugii offered you the role?
**[06:37] Romi**
but when we first worked
together on a project,
**[06:43] Romi**
I really loved it.
**[06:45] Romi**
And I was really glad I'd gotten
the chance to work on it.
**[06:51] Romi**
So when you contacted me about Ekoda-chan,
**[06:55] Romi**
I was positive it was going to be
just as interesting as the time before,
**[06:59] Romi**
and I think the first thing I saw
were the storyboards, right?
**[07:03] Romi**
And those were already so, so interesting!
**[07:06] Sugii**
I see.
**[07:07] Romi**
I mean...
**[07:08] Romi**
a scene where she's plucking her eyebrows
and lining the hairs up on a tissue...
**[07:12] Sugii**
And that's how it starts.
**[07:13] Romi**
Right! But I found it really compelling.
**[07:17] Romi**
So after that, I went and read the manga...
**[07:22] Romi**
And I was like, "Huh?"
**[07:23] Romi**
"It has a story like this...
and it's told in four-panel strips?"
**[07:28] Sugii**
Right?
**[07:29] Romi**
It was a real shock.
**[07:32] Romi**
And honestly, I was super impressed.
**[07:36] Romi**
And the more I read,
the more interesting I found it,
**[07:39] Romi**
and I was really struck by
how candid Ekoda-chan was.
**[07:44] Sugii**
She's an admirable woman.
**[07:46] Romi**
Right.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 2 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
**[07:52] Sugii**
I was having such trouble
figuring out how to approach it,
***SIGN*** Regarding the screenplay for
Episode 2 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
**[07:56] Sugii**
but I happened to be in
contact with Okada Mari-san.
**[07:58] Romi**
Right.
**[07:59] Sugii**
She's a writer who does
a ton of work for anime,
**[08:02] Sugii**
and I asked her to write the screenplay.
**[08:04] Romi**
Right.
**[08:07] Sugii**
We didn't have many meetings.
**[08:09] Sugii**
And I thought an Ekoda-chan
monologue would work well.
**[08:13] Sugii**
I told her that all it really needed to do
was show things from her point of view.
**[08:19] Sugii**
So then, once the script was written...
**[08:21] Sugii**
Well, how should I put it?
**[08:24] Sugii**
"How on earth did you pull this off?"
**[08:27] Sugii**
It does such a good job of
adapting the source material,
**[08:31] Sugii**
but it makes the episode self-contained.
**[08:35] Sugii**
And I think if you haven't read
the original Ekoda-chan manga,
**[08:42] Sugii**
you might not appreciate
just how deep it can get.
**[08:48] Sugii**
So what I was worried about is...
***SIGN*** Director Sugii's concerns about adapting
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" into an anime
**[08:51] Sugii**
Why does Ekoda-chan, y'know,
fall for such a free-wheeling guy?
**[08:56] Sugii**
I mean, she's waiting for Maa-kun to choose her.
And she's been waiting a long time.
**[09:00] Romi**
Right.
**[09:01] Sugii**
I thought the biggest question was,
"Why would she wait so long for him?"
**[09:08] Sugii**
With men and women... well...
**[09:12] Sugii**
It's strange how, sometimes,
no matter how clueless the guy is,
**[09:15] Sugii**
there are times where they have this...
**[09:19] Sugii**
How do I put it? There's a particular
type of kindness they show at times,
**[09:23] Sugii**
and women sometimes
subconsciously latch onto that.
**[09:27] Sugii**
Maa-kun doesn't realize he's doing it.
Even when he's talking to Chiyoko.
**[09:31] Sugii**
So, as she's listening to Maa-kun
talking to this other woman,
**[09:36] Sugii**
and he's being all sweet and loving
and showing that kindness...
**[09:41] Sugii**
Ekoda-chan instinctively realizes...
**[09:45] Sugii**
That's what she's attracted to.
She wouldn't wait for him otherwise.
**[09:48] Sugii**
I mean, he has another woman.
**[09:48] Romi**
Right.
**[09:51] Romi**
I guess the way she doesn't directly
confront him about it, but also kinda does.
***SIGN*** What they have in common with Ekoda-chan
**[09:58] Romi**
It's like, she's sorta giving in, but at the
same time, she isn't at all, y'know?
**[10:02] Romi**
I think that right there is
pretty much what defines her.
**[10:06] Romi**
When I think about it from my perspective...
**[10:09] Romi**
There'll be times when I think
I'm doing something unexpected,
**[10:13] Romi**
but I'm just being totally predictable.
**[10:15] Romi**
So I think, maybe in those ways,
I'm kinda similar to Ekoda-chan.
**[10:22] Romi**
Like, the way she wasn't crying, but
a bead of sweat rolled down into her eye...
**[10:27] Romi**
There's something about that moment
that gets to the heart of her character.
**[10:33] Romi**
I honestly wasn't sure
what to do in that scene.
**[10:36] Romi**
I mean, if you get sweat in your eye, it stings,
**[10:39] Romi**
so I thought to myself,
"How much should I emphasize that?"
**[10:43] Romi**
"How strong should her reaction be?"
**[10:46] Romi**
You know how, in that scene,
Ekoda-chan's trying to act tough,
**[10:51] Romi**
but you can just tell
how she's actually feeling?
**[10:53] Romi**
I think that kind of thing
is what I relate to the most.
***SIGN*** On how complicated it is to try to depict a character
as multifaceted as Ekoda-chan
**[10:58] Sugii**
The thing about the character of Ekoda
**[11:01] Sugii**
is that we want to bring
across how cute she is.
**[11:06] Sugii**
But in the monologue, it'd be bizarre
for her to talk about herself in a way
**[11:11] Sugii**
that suggests she finds herself cute, right?
**[11:13] Sugii**
I mean, in a conversation,
how you act can highlight that aspect,
**[11:17] Sugii**
but here, she's talking to herself.
**[11:18] Romi**
Right.
**[11:19] Sugii**
So today, we got you to do take after take,
**[11:22] Sugii**
which I can only apologize for...
**[11:23] Romi**
No, no, it's fine!
**[11:25] Sugii**
But when I realized how much difference
**[11:26] Sugii**
the fact she's talking to herself
made to the scene...
**[11:31] Sugii**
Sorry, I should've said something sooner.
**[11:32] Romi**
Oh, no, it's totally fine.
**[11:35] Romi**
The way the various scene
breaks interact is so interesting,
**[11:39] Romi**
and because of that, I leaned toward
reflecting that in the different takes.
**[11:43] Romi**
And when you were talking to me about
the essence of Ekoda-chan's character,
**[11:48] Romi**
I wasn't expecting this rough,
fuzzily-drawn appearance.
**[11:54] Romi**
And there was part of me that
wondered if that's how it should look.
**[11:59] Romi**
I kinda wanted to do
a more serious Ekoda-chan...
**[12:03] Romi**
And I couldn't shake that impression.
**[12:07] Romi**
So I was approaching it like,
"Here's how a woman would *really* act."
**[12:10] Romi**
And I think maybe because of that,
**[12:11] Romi**
the takes were heavier than necessary.
**[12:12] Sugii**
Oh, no, it worked well.
***SIGN*** Sugii's approach to recording voice-overs
**[12:13] Sugii**
Fundamentally, after
a certain point in my career,
**[12:19] Sugii**
I stopped making specific
demands of the cast.
**[12:23] Sugii**
I like how, if you don't say anything,
**[12:27] Sugii**
the actors will read the script themselves,
and come up with their own take on it.
**[12:30] Sugii**
And if the animation side
makes too many demands,
**[12:34] Sugii**
those demands will be treated like rules,
so they can't add their own personal touches.
**[12:39] Sugii**
And ever since I realized that...
**[12:42] Sugii**
And maybe this makes it sound
like I just don't want to give direction,
**[12:46] Sugii**
but I tend to leave it to the actors.
**[12:48] Sugii**
And I think that's for the best.
***SIGN*** After the break,
we'll ponder Ekoda-chan's life!!
**[12:53] Sugii**
I just realized something.
**[12:57] Sugii**
This is kind of a tough story to adapt.
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Director
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Park Romi
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:06] Narrator**
It's one surprise after another!
**[13:08] Narrator**
Director Sugii and Park Romi-san
**[13:10] Narrator**
both admitted they were unsure
about their approach in the first half.
**[13:14] Narrator**
In the second half,
we drill down further,
**[13:16] Narrator**
and examine Ekoda-chan's outlook on life.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
Outlook on Life
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** What sex means to Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
**[13:25] Sugii**
The way people treat sex
throughout their lives...
**[13:30] Sugii**
Their values, and their opinions on it...
**[13:34] Sugii**
I mean, Ekoda-chan
sleeps around, doesn't she?
**[13:36] Kataoka**
Right. She does.
**[13:38] Sugii**
And that's... What's the right word?
**[13:42] Sugii**
I think it's terrific.
**[13:44] Sugii**
How, in spite of that, you
don't view her as lascivious.
**[13:48] Sugii**
And it's not like she has
a warped perspective.
**[13:51] Sugii**
I think it's because, for
women, it's sort of like...
**[13:55] Sugii**
Sex and, I guess, your outlook on life, maybe?
**[13:59] Sugii**
I mean, like, your identity...
They're completely separate.
**[14:02] Sugii**
And that...
**[14:06] Sugii**
That's a kind of controversial
way to look at sex.
**[14:10] Kataoka**
It's revolutionary.
**[14:11] Sugii**
Yeah. There was that Cuckoo movie...
**[14:15] Both**
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?
**[14:16] Sugii**
Yes, "One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest." That's it.
**[14:19] Sugii**
There's a part where the
protagonist's with this woman,
**[14:21] Sugii**
and in the same mental hospital,
there's this other guy...
**[14:25] Sugii**
And he offers to let his girl
sleep with this virgin.
**[14:31] Sugii**
When I saw that movie, I thought
the protagonist was remarkable.
**[14:37] Sugii**
That really opened my eyes
to the reality behind sex.
**[14:43] Sugii**
I mean, for the sake of this
man who hasn't had sex before...
**[14:46] Sugii**
he literally asks his girl,
"Hey, could you sleep with this guy?"
**[14:52] Sugii**
At the time, I thought, "Any man
who can do that is amazing."
**[14:58] Sugii**
And to me, that's similar
to Ekoda-chan's situation.
**[15:02] Sugii**
And it's why I think she's terrific. As a woman.
**[15:08] Sugii**
I mean, Maa-kun's just your average guy.
**[15:10] Romi**
Right.
**[15:11] Sugii**
So it means Ekoda-chan's
situation isn't out of the ordinary.
**[15:15] Sugii**
It's not like she's found Mr. Right.
**[15:19] Kataoka**
Yeah.
**[15:20] Sugii**
She's just in love with a loser.
**[15:23] Sugii**
And you know, sometimes, sex
is treated as something liberating.
**[15:28] Sugii**
This isn't like that.
**[15:29] Romi**
So true.
**[15:30] Sugii**
It's just a normal part of life.
**[15:33] Sugii**
And I think Ekoda-chan's way
of life... y'know, her lifestyle...
**[15:40] Sugii**
I think it might just be a societal thing.
**[15:43] Sugii**
This might be the future of how
men and women interact, you know?
**[15:48] Sugii**
I mean, I get the impression that, for women,
**[15:52] Sugii**
they don't get all pretentious
over sex, you know?
**[15:56] Sugii**
All this, "What exactly is a man?"
"What exactly is a woman?"
**[15:59] Sugii**
And, "What is sex, anyway?"
**[16:02] Sugii**
All of that gets addressed.
That's what makes this work so amazing.
**[16:08] Romi**
I think so, too.
***SIGN*** What did you think of Ekoda-chan's lifestyle?
**[16:10] Romi**
I mean, it's really
understandable, for one thing,
**[16:12] Romi**
and well, it's sorta...
really cool, as well, y'know?
**[16:17] Romi**
And... how should I phrase this?
**[16:20] Romi**
There are things it touches on, like
how women can be motivated by emotion,
**[16:25] Romi**
but she's just... She's good
at keeping it together.
**[16:28] Romi**
I mean, she has her problems
and plenty of heartache, sure,
**[16:32] Romi**
but it's like, she has this inner strength,
**[16:35] Romi**
which makes you feel like
it's not dragging her down.
**[16:38] Romi**
It's amazing. On a human level, it's impressive.
**[16:40] Kataoka**
It's truly remarkable.
**[16:42] Kataoka**
I mean, I get the feeling that women
often get told they have to be strong...
**[16:49] Kataoka**
I think that might be what
Sugii-san noticed in her.
**[16:51] Kataoka**
Park-san, you give off that same strong vibe.
**[16:54] Sugii**
I think so.
**[16:55] Ekoda**
But Ekoda is weak, too!
**[16:57] Both**
Oh, you've got a point.
**[16:59] Sugii**
When her feelings get hurt...
**[16:59] Romi**
Right, exactly.
**[17:01] Sugii**
But it usually only comes
out when she's alone.
**[17:03] Sugii**
She'll get frustrated and do this...
**[17:04] Romi**
That's right.
**[17:06] Romi**
We have that in common!
**[17:09] Romi**
I think, for me, personally,
ever since I was young,
**[17:14] Romi**
when it comes to stuff like men,
and women, and aging...
**[17:18] Romi**
I never really let it bother me.
**[17:19] Romi**
I suppose it's the "Hey,
we're all the same" thing.
**[17:23] Romi**
So when it comes to that, I think...
**[17:27] Romi**
that's one thing I have in common with her.
**[17:30] Romi**
As time goes on, the story
sometimes gets complicated,
**[17:35] Romi**
but I think her character
is very progressive.
**[17:39] Kataoka**
Right.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
and its depths
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Director Sugii's interpretation of Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
**[17:45] Sugii**
Back during the planning phase,
it was honestly...
**[17:49] Sugii**
It felt like it'd be a real challenge.
**[17:51] Sugii**
"Has there ever been a show like this?"
**[17:53] Sugii**
So, in that sense, at first,
as a character designer...
**[17:58] Sugii**
I thought about going
for a more realistic, raw look.
**[18:04] Sugii**
You know, make it as realistic as I could,
in spite of it being a short-form show.
**[18:09] Sugii**
But then, Takinami-san's art...
**[18:13] Sugii**
When I took a proper look at it,
it's got this strong pop aesthetic.
**[18:16] Romi**
You're right.
**[18:17] Sugii**
There are elements of Andy Warhol in there.
**[18:21] Sugii**
She has a very pop art look about her.
**[18:25] Sugii**
And because of that,
I thought a more realistic style...
**[18:30] Sugii**
I started thinking it wouldn't
be very funny like that,
**[18:32] Sugii**
so I veered away from
that idea partway through.
**[18:36] Sugii**
But when it came to your acting, I didn't
want it to be exaggerated or "animefied."
**[18:45] Sugii**
I wanted a more natural performance.
**[18:49] Sugii**
I get the feeling that, as a director,
**[18:52] Sugii**
I've never had a project like this where I've
been so unsure which direction to go in.
**[18:56] Sugii**
And I honestly didn't know exactly what I was
aiming for, even while I was working on it.
***SIGN*** Your thoughts going into the recording session
**[19:01] Romi**
Well, I was thinking how rare it was
**[19:03] Romi**
to have more staff present than actors.
**[19:05] Sugii**
Right.
**[19:07] Romi**
So something about that whole
setup was a bit intimidating,
**[19:11] Romi**
but the picture I had in my head was...
I didn't want to make it overly colorful.
**[19:15] Romi**
And I figured that's how I'd approach it.
**[19:18] Romi**
So I went for a much,
much starker delivery.
**[19:22] Romi**
And that maybe made my interpretation
more pensive than was ideal.
**[19:26] Romi**
So, after getting some feedback,
and doing a few different takes,
**[19:30] Romi**
I think the tone changed
a bit as we went along.
**[19:33] Sugii**
I think, just looking at the lines and
the storyboards for this episode...
**[19:41] Sugii**
There's a real, for want of
a better word, *literary* feel to it.
**[19:43] Romi**
Yeah, I agree.
**[19:44] Sugii**
Which probably explains why
you voiced her the way you did.
**[19:47] Sugii**
But even so,
**[19:50] Sugii**
considering how "pop"
the source material is,
**[19:53] Sugii**
it needed an air of lightness to it, too.
**[19:55] Sugii**
And I realize asking, "Could you make it
lighter?" when talking about plane crashes
**[19:59] Sugii**
sounds kind of unreasonable.
**[20:00] Romi**
Oh, no, no...
**[20:02] Sugii**
But I never realized just how hard
**[20:02] Romi**
I didn't think it was that odd.
**[20:04] Sugii**
doing a monologue could be.
***SIGN*** Your thoughts after the recording session
**[20:06] Romi**
The fact that it's such
a short piece of animation,
**[20:10] Romi**
but there are so many people there, thinking,
"What should we do about Ekoda-chan?"
**[20:14] Romi**
"What should we do with this project?"
**[20:17] Romi**
Being able to work in an environment
like that was really wonderful.
**[20:22] Romi**
I'm the kind of actress
who wants to do lots of takes,
**[20:27] Romi**
so the thought of our time coming
to an end so quickly made me sad.
**[20:30] Romi**
I just wanted to keep doing
two, maybe three takes.
**[20:33] Romi**
And I was really appreciative
that I got the chance to do
**[20:36] Romi**
a few different readings of the lines.
**[20:40] Romi**
It feels like, compared to works with bigger
casts, or stories on a much larger scale,
**[20:47] Romi**
this is so much more intimate, yeah.
**[20:48] Sugii**
It is.
**[20:49] Romi**
So I wanted to have more of a back-and-forth
with the staff on my approach to the role.
**[20:56] Romi**
And because of that, I think
**[20:58] Romi**
it's a performance I'll always remember.
**[21:02] Sugii**
That makes sense.
**[21:04] Sugii**
And I let you handle
all the finishing touches.
**[21:07] Romi**
"If you wanna give me some
direction, just let me know!"
**[21:09] Romi**
"I'll do it! Seriously, I'll do whatever!"
**[21:11] Romi**
I mean, usually, when recording...
**[21:12] Sugii**
It's your role, though.
**[21:13] Sugii**
And when you have an actress
as good as you are, Park-san...
**[21:16] Park**
I'm not that good!
**[21:17] Sugii**
I honestly started wondering,
"Should we really be doing so many takes?"
**[21:21] Romi**
I wouldn't say that.
**[21:21] Sugii**
It felt like maybe we were splitting hairs.
**[21:23] Sugii**
But, in spite of that, I had a really
strong image of where to take it.
**[21:27] Sugii**
But I didn't want to say, "Do it like this,"
and ask for another take.
**[21:32] Sugii**
So even though I felt like
you were finding it difficult...
**[21:36] Sugii**
I mean, that's a first for me.
**[21:38] Sugii**
A lot of the time, you don't want too much
forethought going into production.
**[21:41] Sugii**
In animation, you need
to make snap decisions.
**[21:46] Sugii**
No matter what issues you encounter, you
need to resolve them as quickly as possible.
**[21:50] Sugii**
It's a bad idea to keep the
actors waiting, for instance,
**[21:52] Sugii**
or indeed, any of the other staff...
**[21:55] Sugii**
Making short work of plotting out the
best path is meant to be the director's job.
**[22:00] Sugii**
But today? I wasn't able
to make snap decisions.
**[22:04] Romi**
For the first time?
**[22:05] Sugii**
For the first time.
**[22:06] Romi**
I got to be the first!
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:14] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:17] Narrator**
an unexpected character
design choice has
**[22:20] Narrator**
the actress playing Ekoda-chan
in Episode 3 reeling!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:23] Narrator**
What on earth was the director thinking?
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:26] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Eyes
***SIGN*** Tweezers
***SIGN*** Smartphone
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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**[00:00] ---**
Rinshi!!
**[00:00] ---**
Ekoda-chan
**[00:04] Ekoda**
I'm having a side dish of saury today.
My plan is to salt it and grill it.
**[00:08] Ekoda**
Before I cook it, I mess about with it a little
to find out what it's like to own a pet.
**[00:13] Ekoda**
"Aw, don't bite me!" Stuff like that.
**[00:16] Ekoda**
"Birds of prey."
**[00:17] ME**
Look, a birdie!
**[00:19] ME**
This kitty's *so cute*!
**[00:20] ME**
A bear! Yay!
**[00:22] Ekoda**
Is she an animal lover?
**[00:24] ME**
It's a moo cow!
**[00:25] Ekoda**
No, something about this
scene suggests otherwise.
**[00:29] Ekoda**
Or is it just me?
**[00:31] News**
*This is Tanaka-san, who grows
flowers on his property every year.*
**[00:35] Tanaka**
*I want to cheer up everyone
who passes my garden.*
**[00:38] Ekoda**
I feel you.
**[00:39] News**
*Being a newscaster must be tough.*
**[00:42] Bird**
*It is, but I try to make everyone happy,
and do my job with a smile on my face.*
**[00:45] Ekoda**
I sorta feel you, I guess.
**[00:47] Idols**
With our cheerful singing and dancing...
**[00:49] Idols**
...we wanna help everyone dream!
**[00:51] Idols**
So we're gonna sing!
**[00:52] Idols**
Meow, meow, meow.
**[00:55] Ekoda**
Is that really how it works? I'm not convinced.
**[00:58] Sis**
Hey, I know my business better
than anyone, so don't butt in.
**[01:03] Ekoda**
My big sis *sounds* like she knows everything.
**[01:05] Ekoda**
But does she really?
**[01:08] Ekoda**
After all, my sister has yet to realize...
**[01:11] Ekoda**
...she's been eating in her sleep.
**[01:14] Ekoda**
I bought a dog carrier
at the second-hand store.
**[01:18] ME**
D'you think it's a kitty? Or a puppy?
**[01:20] ME**
Can I take a peek?
**[01:22] Ekoda**
Trying to flaunt your cute side, huh?
**[01:25] Ekoda**
It won't work this time.
**[01:26] Ekoda**
Tell me, little bird of prey:
how are you going to react to *this*?
**[01:31] Horse**
What was in there?
**[01:32] ME**
The *cutest* little purse you've ever seen!
**[01:34] Ekoda**
Those birds of prey! They score
top marks for cuteness every time!
**[01:38] Ekoda**
I concede defeat.
**[01:39] Sam**
Ah, wholesome Japanese high schoolers.
**[01:42] Sam**
They must be about 15 or 16.
**[01:45] Sam**
By the time they get to my age,
some of them will be in college,
**[01:49] Sam**
most will be married, and a few
will have headed off overseas.
**[01:53] Sam**
And one or two... will have died.
**[01:56] Ekoda**
Do you have some beef with
Japanese high school girls?
**[01:59] Ekoda**
Um, I'd like a cheeseburger, hold the pickles.
**[02:03] Clerk**
Right. One cheeseburger, hold the cheese.
**[02:05] Ekoda**
She misheard me!
**[02:07] Ekoda**
Uh, actually...
**[02:08] Clerk**
Okay, so that's a cheeseburger without cheese...
**[02:12] Clerk**
Wait, that's just a regular hamburger.
**[02:14] Ekoda**
Talk about realizing you're
wrong but not knowing why.
**[02:19] Friend**
I don't have any sexual proclivities.
**[02:21] Friend**
I don't know if I'm dominant or submissive,
or if there are any fetishes I'm into.
**[02:25] Friend**
And I'm hopeless at talking dirty.
**[02:27] Ekoda**
There's nothing wrong with that.
**[02:29] Friend**
But I don't like not knowing these things.
**[02:31] Friend**
So I bought some rope just to try it out,
**[02:33] Friend**
and before tying myself up with it,
I decided to boil it so it'd soften up a bit,
**[02:37] Friend**
but my dad lifted up the lid,
thinking it was oden.
**[02:40] Friend**
Ever since, it's been awkward between us.
**[02:42] Ekoda**
I'm not sure which bit of that
you want me to comment on.
**[02:46] Ekoda**
Ekoda-chan's rules for doodling.
**[02:48] Ekoda**
Draw a fish on rice omelets.
**[02:49] Ekoda**
Footprints in the condensation.
**[02:51] Ekoda**
And... on your knees, draw faces.
**[02:54] Ekoda**
It's been so long, knees!
**[02:57] Ekoda**
It's a great way to spend an evening
when your nerves are frazzled.
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
This time, we unveil the director
of Episode 3: Shigino Akira,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tatsumi Yuiko!
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
**[04:01] Narrator**
In Episode 3, to everyone's shock,
all the characters were animals!
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[04:05] Narrator**
Ekoda-chan as a bunny?!
**[04:07] Narrator**
We'll find out the director's
reasoning behind the change!
**[04:10] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[04:17] Akira**
Well, I generally don't turn
down a lot of work,
***SIGN*** The reason the director accepted the job
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Tatsumi Yuiko
**[04:22] Akira**
but I actually read the
manga, back in the day.
**[04:25] Kataoka**
I see.
**[04:26] Akira**
And I remember thinking
it was interesting.
**[04:31] Akira**
But I imagine, if I'd never read it,
**[04:35] Akira**
I might've had doubts about
whether I could adapt it properly.
**[04:40] Akira**
But I had read it.
**[04:42] Akira**
So I figured it could be fun.
**[04:45] Akira**
And when I heard it was a short-form anime,
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:47] Akira**
with 12 different directors working on it...
**[04:49] Kataya**
Right.
**[04:50] Akira**
I thought that was interesting, too.
**[04:52] Akira**
It feels like it's been a while
since I was actually at a recording.
***SIGN*** Looking back on today's recording session
**[04:56] Akira**
So that was fun, too.
**[04:58] Akira**
Since I turned the
characters into animals,
**[05:02] Akira**
I was curious how it'd turn out
when it came time to record.
**[05:07] Akira**
Yeah.
**[05:08] Yuiko**
Let's see...
**[05:09] Yuiko**
Well, since it's only a five-minute run-time,
**[05:14] Yuiko**
there weren't a whole lot
of actual lines to record.
**[05:18] Yuiko**
But I was struck by how different
it was from the source material.
**[05:23] Yuiko**
And because of that difference in tone,
**[05:25] Yuiko**
deciding how to voice her
was more spur-of-the-moment.
**[05:29] Yuiko**
That was the main feeling I got.
**[05:32] Yuiko**
And the lack of direction
I got also surprised me.
**[05:37] Yuiko**
I got nothing from the
director or the audio director.
**[05:39] Yuiko**
So I'm actually sitting here
feeling kinda nervous about it all.
**[05:44] Yuiko**
But it was a lot of fun!
**[05:45] Yuiko**
It was so much fun, but I'm still sorta
nervous about how it'll turn out.
**[05:48] Yuiko**
I've been looking forward
to hearing how it was taken.
**[05:51] Kataoka**
Well, she's different
from the manga version.
**[05:53] Kataoka**
No kidding. She really is!
**[05:56] Yuiko**
I read the manga a lot before
showing up to the recording,
**[05:58] Yuiko**
so when I saw the video, I was like,
"Wait, what? This is totally different!"
**[06:03] Yuiko**
So I'm not sure my response
to that was the right one...
**[06:06] Yuiko**
But I tried to give the
best performance I could.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 3 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[06:14] Akira**
Well, she's almost always
naked in the original manga.
***SIGN*** The reason behind turning the cast into animals
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
**[06:19] Akira**
But this is TV, and there are
certain things you just can't show.
**[06:24] Akira**
So instead of using mosaics or something
similarly ugly to cover up the "naughty" bits,
**[06:32] Akira**
I figured nakedness wasn't
an issue if she was an animal.
**[06:36] Akira**
That's basically why.
**[06:37] Yuiko**
I see!
**[06:38] Yuiko**
So that explains why she was a bunny...
**[06:39] Akira**
And then...
**[06:41] Akira**
Actually, all the characters are naked.
**[06:42] Yuiko**
Right, everyone in the episode is naked.
**[06:43] Kataoka**
So they are.
**[06:46] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[06:47] Yuiko**
I get it now.
**[06:48] Kataoka**
Animals do walk around naked, after all.
**[06:50] Akira**
Right.
**[06:51] Yuiko**
That's such an interesting
way of looking at it.
***SIGN*** What you thought after seeing the animal version of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" for the first time
**[06:53] Akira**
I didn't predict her transforming
into an animal because of the nudity,
**[06:58] Akira**
but since the change made
it seem more kid-friendly,
**[07:02] Akira**
I sorta thought that
was how it should sound.
**[07:05] Akira**
The art style really gave
me that impression.
**[07:07] Akira**
But the actual content
is the same as in the manga.
**[07:09] Yuiko**
Right, exactly! The scenarios
themselves didn't change.
**[07:12] Yuiko**
There's actually something
I was curious about.
**[07:15] Yuiko**
There are so many strips. What made
you adapt these particular ones?
**[07:19] Akira**
Well...
***SIGN*** The reasons behind which strips got chosen for adaptation
in Episode 3 of the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** I just picked out the ones I found funny.
**[07:23] Yuiko**
I see. As straightforward as that?
**[07:25] Akira**
Yeah.
**[07:27] Yuiko**
That makes sense.
**[07:28] Akira**
I mean, sometimes, when
the author's a woman,
**[07:31] Akira**
there are things men have
trouble understanding.
**[07:36] Akira**
And I wanted to avoid those strips,
because I wouldn't know how to approach them,
**[07:42] Akira**
so I picked out ones that spoke to me.
**[07:44] Akira**
And since I mostly do comedies,
**[07:47] Akira**
I wanted ones that a wider
audience would find funny.
**[07:52] Akira**
So I chose the strips that
worked for me in that sense,
**[07:55] Akira**
and they're the ones I ended up using.
**[07:59] Akira**
If I don't personally find something funny,
I have trouble knowing what to do with it.
**[08:03] Akira**
And I also wanted to have a selection
of characters to bring balance.
**[08:08] Akira**
So her sister is in it, and Sam's in there,
**[08:11] Akira**
and I thought about adding her boyfriend in,
but we didn't have enough run-time for that.
**[08:16] Akira**
The part where the crab walks past...
**[08:18] Yuiko**
Oh, I remember that!
**[08:20] Akira**
I would've liked to have done that one.
**[08:23] Akira**
So it's a bit of a shame.
**[08:24] Kataoka**
When you look at Maa-kun and Sam...
**[08:26] Kataoka**
There are a lot of funny guys in the manga.
**[08:27] Yuiko**
You're so right!
**[08:28] Yuiko**
The guy who follows her around, too.
**[08:30] Kataoka**
Right.
**[08:30] Yuiko**
Ekoda-chan kinda has this free-spirited
approach to her relationships with men.
***SIGN*** On how "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" feels more friendly
as a result of everyone becoming animals
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[08:35] Yuiko**
There are plenty of examples
of that in the manga, right?
**[08:37] Yuiko**
So that tends to spring to mind when I think
about it. It leaves a strong impression.
**[08:42] Yuiko**
And the way this episode glosses over that,
**[08:45] Yuiko**
and instead, serves up these warm,
conventional kind of jokes...
**[08:47] Yuiko**
There's something about that...
I'm not sure how to put it...
**[08:51] Yuiko**
It makes it feel a bit surreal,
and I really loved that about it.
***SIGN*** Difficulties in recording
**[08:55] Yuiko**
Let's see, what difficulties did we face?
**[08:58] Yuiko**
The pace was one thing. It was so fast.
**[09:01] Yuiko**
I mean, it's only five minutes,
so it's just beat after beat after beat,
**[09:05] Yuiko**
with the story changing
from one moment to the next.
**[09:07] Yuiko**
It felt like I was struggling to keep up.
**[09:12] Yuiko**
That's the main thing, yeah.
**[09:15] Kataoka**
Was there anything you particularly
focused on in your performance?
***SIGN*** Things you paid special attention to, as Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[09:18] Yuiko**
Let's see...
**[09:20] Yuiko**
Well, instead of trying to stick
closer to the original Ekoda-chan...
**[09:25] Yuiko**
The one from the manga, I mean,
which I read before coming in...
**[09:28] Yuiko**
I wanted to try to match the art style,
and the atmosphere of each segment.
**[09:34] Yuiko**
That's what I decided on seeing them.
**[09:35] Yuiko**
And that was one bit of direction I got.
**[09:38] Yuiko**
And I realized, "Oh, *right*."
**[09:40] Yuiko**
So what we ended up recording today,
**[09:43] Yuiko**
the voice that's going
to be in the final product,
**[09:47] Yuiko**
is what we came up with on the day.
**[09:48] Yuiko**
It sounded totally different
when I was practicing at home.
**[09:51] Yuiko**
And I was a little anxious about
how different it turned out.
**[09:56] Akira**
Sorry about that.
**[09:57] Yuiko**
Oh, it's totally fine!
**[09:58] Yuiko**
I was just curious how it turned out,
**[10:01] Yuiko**
since there wasn't a lot of direction.
**[10:04] Yuiko**
I got kinda nervous about it...
**[10:06] Director**
Well, giving lots of specific directions...
**[10:10] Director**
I mean, I personally don't like that approach.
**[10:12] Yuiko**
Yeah, but with the other characters...
**[10:15] Yuiko**
There were quite a lot of retakes for them.
**[10:21] Director**
Oh, that's a separate issue.
**[10:24] Akira**
Color, I'd say. I mean, hm. Yeah.
***SIGN*** Things you pay special attention to, as a director
**[10:28] Akira**
I have to admit, I don't really
like using a huge palette...
**[10:35] Akira**
Although, the color gets added
after the voice recording,
**[10:37] Akira**
so we're talking about future stuff here.
**[10:40] Akira**
But that's the way I like to go with it.
**[10:41] Akira**
A long time ago, in kids' magazines,
**[10:45] Akira**
they had pages that were
printed using only four colors.
**[10:49] Akira**
I want this to have that kind of look to it.
**[10:53] Akira**
Not bursting with every color under the sun,
but with a sort of cohesion to it.
**[11:02] Akira**
Something about that
limited palette is soothing.
**[11:07] Akira**
There are less distractions for the eye.
***SIGN*** Focusing on backgrounds
**[11:09] Akira**
Something I realized about
backgrounds on "Osomatsu-kun"
**[11:14] Akira**
was how the backgrounds in
Akatsuka-san's manga were really just lines.
**[11:19] Akira**
So they're just symbolic, really.
**[11:21] Akira**
Ever since then, I've felt like, all
backgrounds need to do is get the idea across.
**[11:25] Kataoka**
I understand what you mean.
**[11:26] Akira**
A lot of times when I see more
realistic backgrounds nowadays,
**[11:29] Akira**
I think to myself that it doesn't really work.
**[11:32] Akira**
Other than that, one of my
favorite background artists
**[11:37] Akira**
is a woman who did the
backgrounds on "Shizuku-chan."
**[11:44] Akira**
So when I was doing the "Shin-chan" movie,
**[11:47] Akira**
I found out the company she was working
at did stuff for the "Shin-chan" TV series,
**[11:52] Akira**
so I asked her to head up
the art side of things.
**[11:57] Akira**
We came up with this sort of...
strange setting for it.
**[12:01] Akira**
And she's good at that, and
giving it a personality of sorts.
***SIGN*** Regarding the 12 Directors and 12 Ekoda-chans
**[12:04] Akira**
With 12 directors, you get lots of variation...
**[12:06] Yuiko**
Yeah, that totally makes sense.
**[12:07] Akira**
Different background artists, too.
**[12:08] Kataoka**
More than anything I've done before,
this project has really made me appreciate
**[12:12] Kataoka**
the role the director plays
in the production of a show.
**[12:16] Kataoka**
It's incredible how many different tools
you have to expand your own interpretation.
**[12:21] Kataoka**
And it results in an animation style
no one else would come up with.
**[12:25] Akira**
I think it's rather flattering
**[12:28] Akira**
that I was chosen as one of the 12 directors.
**[12:28] Yuiko**
Right!
**[12:30] Yuiko**
You did a great job!
**[12:30] Kataoka**
Nobody else would've thought of animals.
**[12:32] Yuiko**
You're on a whole other level!
**[12:34] Yuiko**
No one else would've come up with that.
**[12:36] Yuiko**
I was so surprised!
**[12:36] Kataoka**
Especially considering how cute they are.
**[12:38] Yuiko**
Right!
**[12:39] Yuiko**
To think that something that looks like
this could've been inspired by Ekoda-chan...
**[12:43] Akira**
Well, there are 12 voice actresses, too.
**[12:45] Yuiko**
Oh, yeah, and they'll all have
their own take on the character.
**[12:48] Akira**
People might compare...
**[12:49] Yuiko**
Ah, don't say that!
**[12:50] Yuiko**
I think, because the content is
so different for each episode,
***SIGN*** After the break,
we'll talk about the characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan"
**[12:53] Yuiko**
I'm not as worried as
I would be otherwise.
**[12:56] Yuiko**
"Well, of *course*! It's meant to be different!"
**[12:59] Yuiko**
That's what I'll say.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Episode 3's Director
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:06] Narrator**
In the first half, we chatted about how
Ekoda-chan had been turned into a bunny!
**[13:10] Narrator**
In the second half,
we'll hear what they thought
**[13:13] Narrator**
about the various characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
**[13:16] Narrator**
Not only that, we'll hear about when
Director Shigino was 24 years old.
***SIGN*** The characters of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[13:25] Question**
Your favorite lines from "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[13:25] Yuiko**
Well, it wasn't actually one of my lines.
**[13:30] Yuiko**
But out of all the
characters, I like Sam a lot.
**[13:34] Kataoka**
Sam?
**[13:35] Yuiko**
He's the foreign guy.
**[13:36] Yuiko**
I really like it when he
shows up in the manga.
**[13:39] Yuiko**
And when I saw the line: "And one
or two... will have died," in the script,
**[13:42] Yuiko**
I was like, "There it is!"
I got a bit excited about that.
***SIGN*** Favorite stories from the original "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga
**[13:45] Yuiko**
I like how Ekoda-chan's kind of...
What do I want to say?
**[13:51] Yuiko**
She doesn't think things through,
she's just spontaneous,
**[13:54] Yuiko**
and often, things don't work out
like she thought they would.
**[13:57] Yuiko**
I can seriously relate to that.
**[14:00] Yuiko**
She did this one thing that I'd done in real
life myself, and it made me laugh hard.
**[14:04] Yuiko**
It was at a time when
I'd gotten tired of eating hotpot.
**[14:07] Yuiko**
I was just putting kelp and stock in,
**[14:09] Yuiko**
and since I had it all the time,
I was getting bored of it.
**[14:12] Yuiko**
So I tried to liven it up with some miso,
but it just became miso soup.
**[14:16] Yuiko**
And she literally did the same thing!
**[14:19] Yuiko**
"Oh, maybe it'd be tasty with some miso in it!"
**[14:21] Yuiko**
But then, it's seriously just
miso soup! A big pot full of it!
**[14:24] Yuiko**
I remember how depressed it made me.
**[14:26] Yuiko**
When I saw her do it, too,
I was just like, "Wow, same."
**[14:31] Yuiko**
It really made me realize I'm not
alone in doing really goofy things.
***SIGN*** The character of "Big Sis"
**[14:36] Akira**
Her sister is really cute.
**[14:39] Akira**
Though, I really wanted to make her
take a long drag on a cigarette.
**[14:42] Kataoka**
Right, right.
**[14:43] Yuiko**
That didn't work.
**[14:43] Akira**
But y'know, it's anime, so I figured, maybe not.
**[14:45] Yuiko**
It was a selfie instead.
**[14:46] Kataoka**
We were asked not to use cigarettes,
**[14:49] Kataoka**
so we went with the smartphone, instead.
**[14:51] Kataoka**
I think out of all the characters,
her sister is the simplest to understand.
**[14:55] Kataoka**
The "bird of prey" is much
harder by comparison.
***SIGN*** The "bird of prey" archetype
**[14:59] Kataoka**
The "bird of prey" is a hard one.
**[15:01] Kataoka**
The idea that such girls exist...
**[15:03] Kataoka**
I mean, I believe people when say they've
met one, but I've never met one, personally.
**[15:08] Kataoka**
Do they actually exist?
**[15:10] Yuiko**
"Birds of prey"?
**[15:12] Yuiko**
Well, there are these women
**[15:13] Yuiko**
who are loved by everyone, aren't there?
**[15:14] Akira**
And those are "birds of prey"?
**[15:16] Yuiko**
I'm not sure if they really are, or if
that's just how Ekoda-chan sees them.
**[15:19] Yuiko**
The thing is, the "birds of prey" Ekoda-chan
talks about aren't doing anything wrong.
**[15:23] Yuiko**
The way they sorta... just pretend
to be airheads, you know?
**[15:27] Yuiko**
I don't know if that's an
outdated way of putting it!
**[15:31] Yuiko**
But the way they do that, and then,
treat other women with contempt...
**[15:34] Yuiko**
That's a horrible trait you see
a lot in that type of woman,
**[15:39] Yuiko**
but for Ekoda-chan,
the "bird of prey" isn't like that.
**[15:42] Yuiko**
Which actually makes
Ekoda-chan more frustrated!
**[15:45] Yuiko**
But I really like how
she gets all sensitive about it.
**[15:49] Kataoka**
Ekoda-chan's reaction, you mean?
**[15:50] Yuiko**
Right!
**[15:50] Yuiko**
Like, it irritates her, but she
can't actually get mad about it.
**[15:53] Yuiko**
I really like that about her.
**[15:55] Kataoka**
Her "let's steer clear of this" attitude?
**[15:57] Yuiko**
Right, right! That's it exactly.
**[15:59] Kataoka**
How she doesn't want to pick a fight,
**[16:00] Yuiko**
Right, right! Precisely.
**[16:01] Kataoka**
but also wants nothing to do with them.
**[16:02] Yuiko**
In the manga, she says she doesn't
want to turn into one of them.
**[16:07] Akira**
The funniest part with the "bird of prey"
**[16:09] Akira**
was when she was going,
"Look, a birdie! Look, a kitty!"
**[16:13] Akira**
Then, "It's a moo cow!"
while she's eating beef.
**[16:17] Akira**
Something about that really
made her a figure of fun for me.
**[16:21] Yuiko**
The guy she was with... Was he a horse?
***SIGN*** He's a dog
**[16:23] Yuiko**
Some sort of... horsey boyfriend?
**[16:23] Akira**
I think it was a dog.
**[16:25] Yuiko**
So he was a dog?
**[16:27] Yuiko**
The way he just grins the whole time...
That left an impression.
**[16:32] Kataoka**
His neck seemed long for a dog.
**[16:34] Akira**
Oh, was he a horse, then?
**[16:36] Yuiko**
I kinda thought he was.
**[16:37] Akira**
The characters were all
designed by the same person.
**[16:39] Yuiko**
Oh, that's how it was done?
**[16:41] Yuiko**
There are lots of different animals.
**[16:43] Akira**
I think I asked for a dog
when I laid out what I wanted.
**[16:45] Yuiko**
I see...
**[16:46] Yuiko**
Well, maybe it's in the eye of the beholder.
***SIGN*** Is there anything about the characters you relate to?
**[16:49] Kataoka**
I tend not to overthink things,
**[16:52] Kataoka**
and I usually think, as long
as it's funny, anything goes.
**[16:57] Kataoka**
But the thing about having a woman
as the protagonist, it's kinda...
**[17:02] Kataoka**
I know how this might sound to some,
**[17:05] Kataoka**
but when it's something like
"Ashita no Joe," it's easier to empathize.
**[17:09] Kataoka**
But when it's a female main character...
**[17:11] Yuiko**
I know what you mean.
**[17:12] Akira**
First of all, I find it hard to
believe she's naked all the time.
**[17:16] Akira**
That's one thing I can't identify with, at all.
**[17:18] Yuiko**
So you basically have trouble
with the whole premise!
**[17:21] Akira**
I don't think I'd like someone like that.
**[17:23] Akira**
I definitely wouldn't want to
be in a relationship with her.
**[17:25] Akira**
I mean, being butt naked
at home all the time...
**[17:28] Kataoka**
Well, there are nudists out there.
**[17:30] Akira**
Well, yes, but even so...
**[17:31] Akira**
I don't think most men are nudists.
**[17:32] Kataoka**
Yeah, I agree with that.
**[17:34] Yuiko**
So there are more women nudists?
**[17:34] Kataoka**
You always have drawers on at least...
**[17:36] Akira**
I mean, you've got to have underwear on.
**[17:39] Yuiko**
Yeah, I've never heard of anything like it.
**[17:42] Akira**
So because of that...
**[17:43] Akira**
It's like, the first thing I notice about
her is something I can't relate to.
**[17:47] Yuiko**
Makes sense, with the way Ekoda-chan is.
**[17:50] Kataoka**
I see.
***SIGN*** Going into the recording, did you see any similarities
between yourself and Ekoda-chan?
**[17:51] Yuiko**
Well, let's see...
And this might just be because
**[17:54] Yuiko**
of the particular strips that
were picked out for the episode,
**[17:58] Yuiko**
but I agree with what
Director Shigino said...
**[18:03] Yuiko**
That it's less about how Ekoda-chan
lives her life, and her values...
**[18:08] Yuiko**
and more about the comedy value of
the stories, and how fast-paced they are,
**[18:13] Yuiko**
so I didn't think too deeply
about it in the recording.
**[18:17] Yuiko**
I was more focused on the tempo of the
story when I was giving my performance.
***SIGN*** When he was 24...
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
**[18:28] Kataoka**
Putting aside whether you do
the things depicted or not...
**[18:31] Yuiko**
I really don't!
**[18:32] Yuiko**
Is there anything about what she
does that you find impressive?
***SIGN*** Do you think Ekoda-chan is admirable?
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[18:35] Yuiko**
Anything that strikes
you as being admirable?
**[18:37] Yuiko**
It's a good question.
**[18:39] Yuiko**
I mean, she's 24 years old, right?
**[18:42] Yuiko**
Well, I'm 31 right now,
and considering her age...
**[18:48] Yuiko**
It makes me wonder what kind
of person she'll be at my age.
**[18:52] Yuiko**
I mean, when I was 24...
**[18:55] Yuiko**
I was sort of... still a snot-nosed punk, really.
**[18:59] Yuiko**
But here is an adult woman!
**[19:01] Kataoka**
True.
**[19:01] Yuiko**
She seems really grown up!
**[19:03] Yuiko**
It makes me wonder if
she's actually older than me.
**[19:06] Yuiko**
So she seems like she's
from a different world,
**[19:08] Yuiko**
but I'd kinda like to have
the bohemian life she does.
**[19:12] Yuiko**
I mean, it's completely different from mine.
**[19:14] Kataoka**
So in your next life, you might try it?
**[19:16] Yuiko**
Well, maybe not!
**[19:17] Yuiko**
Let's say, three or four lives down the road.
**[19:19] Kataoka**
Right, I understand.
**[19:21] Yuiko**
I'm just curious how it'd turn out.
***SIGN*** Stories from when Director Shigino was 24, Ekoda-chan's age
**[19:24] Akira**
When I was 24, or around that age,
**[19:27] Akira**
I started working in anime.
**[19:28] Yuiko**
Oh, really?
**[19:29] Akira**
I started relatively late.
**[19:31] Akira**
At first, I was working at Tatsunoko...
**[19:34] Akira**
at the age of 24.
**[19:35] Akira**
I see, I see.
**[19:36] Akira**
I was involved with the "Time
Bokan" series and "Yatterman."
**[19:42] Akira**
I seriously worked my butt off.
***SIGN*** Why he started working on anime
**[19:45] Akira**
I actually wanted to be a manga artist,
and that's why I came to Tokyo.
**[19:52] Akira**
But it's not that easy to just
become a manga artist,
**[19:56] Akira**
so I was doing lots of different jobs,
making my way through life.
**[20:00] Akira**
One job and then, another...
Just this and that, you know?
**[20:05] Akira**
And then, one day, I saw an ad for Tatsunoko.
**[20:10] Akira**
And I thought, "Well, it's not manga,
but anime is kinda similar,
**[20:14] Akira**
so I might as well give it a try."
**[20:16] Akira**
I was pretty casual about it.
**[20:18] Akira**
I started the job without knowing a thing
about how anime was actually made.
**[20:21] Yuiko**
So it wasn't because you
particularly liked anime?
**[20:24] Akira**
I didn't even know what
shows Tatsunoko made.
**[20:27] Yuiko**
It's impressive how you started like that
**[20:29] Yuiko**
and just kept going!
**[20:29] Akira**
Yeah, it really is.
**[20:31] Akira**
I mean, I've been in the biz forty years now.
**[20:33] Yuiko**
That's amazing...
***SIGN*** Your thoughts on today
**[20:35] Yuiko**
I've watched the live-action
show, and read the manga,
**[20:39] Yuiko**
so I honestly wasn't sure
if I was capable of...
**[20:42] Yuiko**
well, this kinda surreal,
but also hard to pin down,
**[20:48] Yuiko**
character of Ekoda-chan,
who's a real free spirit.
**[20:53] Yuiko**
But after seeing the scenes
Director Shigino had chosen,
**[20:58] Yuiko**
and the heartwarming look
of the super cute artwork...
**[21:03] Yuiko**
It was kind of a different spin
on Ekoda-chan from the original,
**[21:08] Yuiko**
and I was really glad
I got to take the character
**[21:12] Yuiko**
in such a unique direction.
**[21:15] Yuiko**
Then, after actually coming in today,
and having a great time doing the recording,
**[21:19] Yuiko**
and even getting to do this round
table, it was all very interesting.
**[21:23] Yuiko**
Getting to spend even a little bit of time
in Ekoda-chan's shoes made me really happy.
**[21:29] Yuiko**
I'm really glad to have been involved,
and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
**[21:32] Akira**
It was my first time meeting
a lot of the folks who worked on this.
**[21:36] Akira**
And that was probably the most fun I had.
**[21:38] Akira**
And this is only maybe
my third time in this studio...
**[21:42] Akira**
I haven't come here much before.
**[21:44] Akira**
So there's an overall feeling of freshness,
**[21:46] Akira**
along with sorta being disappointed
**[21:50] Akira**
that it's all over after today.
**[21:53] Yuiko**
Since it turned out well...
**[21:54] Akira**
Like, "Don't bother coming in next week!"
**[21:56] Yuiko**
Even if you want to.
**[21:57] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[21:59] Kataoka**
It was fun.
**[22:00] Kataoka**
I mean, that said, there's
still a lot of work to do.
**[22:06] Kataoka**
And I'm gonna do my best to produce
a really entertaining Ekoda-chan.
**[22:08] Kataoka**
Okay.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
***SIGN*** Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
we'll hear from the director of Episode 4
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:19] Narrator**
on whether or not he thinks
Ekoda-chan is his type.
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[22:23] Narrator**
Ekoda-chan's voice actress
will ask the burning question!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[22:27] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Dog carrier
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E4
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**[00:00] ---**
The Novice Bunny
**[00:01] Ekoda**
Whenever I was on my own in preschool...
**[00:03] Teacher**
You'll have more fun with the others.
**[00:06] Ekoda**
*But I was already having fun...*
**[00:09] Ekoda**
Whenever I went to the
bathroom by myself at school...
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing all by herself?
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing all
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing all by
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing all by her
**[00:12] Bystanders**
What is she doing all by herself
**[00:13] Bystanders**
What is she doing all by herself?
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Does
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't she
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have any
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have any friends?
**[00:13] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have any fr
**[00:14] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have any friends
**[00:14] Bystanders**
Doesn't she have any friends?
**[00:15] Ekoda**
*What a weird thing to assume.*
**[00:18] Ekoda**
And now...
**[00:19] Headline**
Pokomaruko found dead, aged 77
**[00:20] News**
*Well-known celebrity, Pokomaruko-san,
has been found dead at his home.*
**[00:24] Ekoda**
Wait, that's what happens when you die alone?!
**[00:28] Ekoda**
But...
**[00:30] Ekoda**
I get the feeling, if I died right now,
it'd be an even lonelier way to go.
**[00:33] Ma**
Hey, it's me. You awake?
**[00:36] Ekoda**
And then, there's...
**[00:37] Guy**
*Can I come over tonight?*
**[00:39] Girl**
*No...*
**[00:40] Ekoda**
Or maybe this...
**[00:40] Guy**
*Can I...*
**[00:42] Girl**
*No.*
**[00:43] Ekoda**
And after that...
**[00:44] Guy**
*Are you ready?*
**[00:46] Girl**
*No!*
**[00:46] Ekoda**
And such...
**[00:47] Ekoda**
Saying "no" when she really
means "yes." Typical woman.
**[00:51] Ekoda**
But...
**[00:53] Ekoda**
Women will also say "yes"
when they really mean "no."
**[00:57] Ma**
Mind if I head back now?
**[00:59] Ekoda**
Go ahead.
***SIGN*** The Queens of Eros:
***SIGN*** A Frank Discussion!?
***SIGN*** Run
***SIGN*** Eros!
**[01:02] Guest**
*Well, men actually go* inside*
a woman's body, right?*
**[01:07] Guest**
*So I want them to know
who I am on the inside, too.*
**[01:11] Ekoda**
I get you.
**[01:13] Ekoda**
Maa-kun knows me from inside.
From my warm, *living* insides, right?
**[01:18] Ekoda**
And yet...
**[01:19] Ekoda**
It feels like he doesn't
even acknowledge I'm alive!
**[01:24] Ma**
Right now? Yeah, I'm alone.
**[01:31] Ekoda**
A bike lock hanging on a guard rail.
**[01:33] Ekoda**
I see this every now and then,
but I wonder what it signifies?
***SIGN*** Someone stole the bike
**[01:38] Ekoda**
But how?
***SIGN*** The owner left the lock behind
**[01:42] Ekoda**
Why would they do that?
**[01:44] Ekoda**
The more I think about it,
the more it puzzles me.
**[01:47] Ekoda**
I mean...
**[01:48] Ekoda**
For the symbol of wanting to hold on
to be the only thing that's left...
**[01:53] Ekoda**
It's just too much!
**[01:57] Ekoda**
I was chatting to one of Maa-kun's friends...
**[02:00] Friend**
Oh, yeah, he broke up with his girlfriend.
**[02:04] Ekoda**
That's what he told me!
Why didn't you say anything?
**[02:07] Ma**
It's not like it's any of your business.
**[02:10] Ekoda**
None of my business? Seriously?
**[02:13] Ma**
It's not like I said we'd start
dating if I broke up with her.
**[02:17] Ma**
Anyway, there's this other
chick I wanna get with.
**[02:20] Ekoda**
Oh. I'm not even sure how to react to that...
**[02:26] Ekoda**
So how'd it work out with
that girl you wanted to date?
**[02:30] Ma**
Not much to tell. I mean,
you fool around plenty, too, don't you?
**[02:34] Ekoda**
Only because you say you
don't want to be my boyfriend.
**[02:37] Ma**
So it's all my fault?
**[02:39] Ma**
That there is why I don't want to.
**[02:41] Ekoda**
I wasn't always like this, you know!
**[02:43] Ma**
Yeah, you were.
**[02:46] Ekoda**
I can't believe you can just say stuff
like that to me like it's nothing!
**[02:50] Ma**
It's not like I wanted to say it.
**[02:55] Ekoda**
I've become a ghost without even realizing...
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:53] Narrator**
Today, we unveil the director
of Episode 4: Mochizuki Tomomi,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Chiba Chiemi-san.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Chiba Chiemi
**[04:02] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" is the second
project they've worked on together.
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Chiba Chiemi
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Director
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi
**[04:06] Narrator**
They'll be asking each other
some rather frank questions.
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
**[04:17] Chiba**
The first time was on "Rozen Maiden."
***SIGN*** This is the second time Director Mochizuki and Chiba-san
have worked together
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[04:19] Tomo**
Oh, right, right.
**[04:20] Chiba**
Yeah. We worked together on that.
**[04:24] Chiba**
When I was auditioning for
"Rozen Maiden," He was there...
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Director
Mochizuki Tomomi
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Ekoda-san
Chiba Chiemi
**[04:29] Chiba**
And when you've done your reading,
**[04:32] Chiba**
you go to the other side of the glass and say,
"Thank you for the opportunity," right?
**[04:35] Chiba**
And when I was auditioning,
**[04:36] Chiba**
this guy had his whole body weight up
against the glass, glaring.
**[04:39] Chiba**
But I didn't really know who he was,
**[04:41] Chiba**
so I was just like, "Wow, that guy's really
glaring at me," and then, went home.
**[04:45] Chiba**
And then, after that...
The next day, I got the call,
**[04:50] Chiba**
and found out he was the sound director.
**[04:52] Chiba**
And I realized, "Oh, that
was the sound director!"
**[04:54] Tomo**
Sorry for glaring...
**[04:56] Chiba**
That was some crazy leaning
you were doing, too.
**[04:59] Tomo**
On "Rozen Maiden,"
**[05:01] Tomo**
I didn't direct the actual episodes.
I was the sound director at the time.
**[05:07] Tomo**
Yeah, I was at your audition, and that's
where I saw you and wanted to cast you.
**[05:11] Chiba**
Oh, thank you.
**[05:12] Tomo**
Well, from what I'd read
of the Ekoda-chan manga,
***SIGN*** Why Chiba-san was offered the role of Ekoda-chan
**[05:19] Tomo**
she was a bit of an enigma,
and hard to understand,
**[05:24] Tomo**
and I thought Chiba-san would be a good fit.
**[05:28] Tomo**
I thought she'd be good at
accentuating that side of Ekoda-chan.
**[05:33] Chiba**
Thank you very much.
**[05:35] Chiba**
When I read it, I found it kinda complex.
***SIGN*** Impressions of Ekoda-chan
**[05:40] Chiba**
Seriously, it was just so complex...
**[05:43] Chiba**
So much so that, when I came
into the studio today, I was like:
**[05:48] Chiba**
"What do I do?"
**[05:50] Chiba**
I mean, she's a really
complicated girl, isn't she?
**[05:54] Chiba**
I mean, I never know what's gonna set her off.
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[06:00] Chiba**
Because she's drifting through life,
seeming all disinterested,
**[06:05] Chiba**
and you think, maybe that's how she likes it,
**[06:10] Chiba**
but there's this ill-defined line
she crosses emotionally sometimes.
**[06:15] Chiba**
And she's got this sorta... scary side to her,
**[06:19] Chiba**
where you don't know what she's
gonna do when she finally blows.
**[06:23] Chiba**
That actually makes me
really curious about something.
**[06:26] Chiba**
As a man... when you look at Ekoda-chan...
**[06:32] Chiba**
Would you?
***SIGN*** Looking at Ekoda-chan as a man... would you?
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
**[06:35] Tomo**
Well, I dunno if this is my opinion as a man...
**[06:38] Chiba**
Right.
**[06:39] Chiba**
You're not a man?
**[06:39] Tomo**
But for me, personally...
**[06:41] Tomo**
No, no, I didn't mean that.
I mean, speaking just for myself...
**[06:45] Tomo**
I would.
**[06:46] Chiba**
You would?
**[06:47] Tomo**
I think, if Ekoda-chan was a real person,
***SIGN*** Director Mochizuki would, with Ekoda-chan
**[06:50] Tomo**
she'd look sort of plain, I guess.
**[06:54] Tomo**
If you contrast her to the "birds of prey"
that also appear in the manga,
**[06:59] Tomo**
Ekoda-chan doesn't go out of her
way to make herself look cute.
**[07:05] Tomo**
And she's sort of got
this edge to her, you know?
**[07:08] Tomo**
Simply put, both of those
traits make her my type.
**[07:12] Chiba**
I see.
**[07:13] Tomo**
Right.
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 4 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[07:19] Tomo**
Well, my usual job is making the
animation. That's what I normally do.
***SIGN*** From your perspective, did you feel like Chiba-san's reading
perfectly matched the animation?
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
**[07:25] Tomo**
But for Ekoda-chan, as the voice track
got added, along with all the other audio,
**[07:33] Tomo**
I wasn't exactly sure how
it would affect her character.
**[07:39] Tomo**
Maybe not so much that
I didn't know but more like,
**[07:42] Tomo**
there were a lot of different
ways it could've gone.
**[07:45] Tomo**
I didn't have any particular preference
for how I wanted the role to be performed.
**[07:53] Tomo**
And in general, I don't
tend to go into recordings
**[07:56] Tomo**
with a lot of preconceived notions
on how I think something should sound.
**[07:59] Tomo**
I figured Chiba-san could
just do her own thing.
**[08:01] Tomo**
Sorry if that sounds dismissive,
**[08:03] Tomo**
but I'm saying it was your choice because
you played the lead this time.
**[08:07] Tomo**
And I thought you'd come up
with something that'd make me go:
**[08:11] Tomo**
"I get it now! That's how it can work!"
**[08:14] Tomo**
And as long as the result was satisfying,
**[08:16] Tomo**
that was the main thing.
**[08:17] Chiba**
And was it?
**[08:18] Tomo**
Yes, it was.
**[08:18] Chiba**
Oh, phew.
**[08:20] Chiba**
Going in, I kept thinking, "What should I do?"
and I didn't know how to approach voicing her,
***SIGN*** What directions
did Director Mochizuki give you?
**[08:28] Chiba**
even after looking through the script,
**[08:33] Chiba**
because she doesn't really do flirty,
**[08:35] Chiba**
and she doesn't put on a cutesy voice
when she's around him, either.
**[08:40] Chiba**
And I understood all of this,
but it made it really challenging for me,
**[08:46] Chiba**
so I was panicking a bit going into it!
**[08:50] Chiba**
But when I got here, just before we started,
**[08:55] Chiba**
I said, "I'm not sure what to do.
This is really hard."
**[08:59] Chiba**
So he gave me a broad outline,
**[09:03] Chiba**
reiterating the things I'd also
got from reading the manga...
**[09:07] Chiba**
But after that, regarding
the performance itself?
**[09:13] Chiba**
It went along the lines of: "Don't be tense.
Just go with whatever's natural."
**[09:18] Chiba**
And I was like, "Okay, then."
**[09:20] Tomo**
For this show, there wasn't, uh,
what you'd call an audition process.
**[09:27] Tomo**
So I left her in your hands.
**[09:30] Tomo**
And if anything sounded weird,
then it'd just be your fault.
**[09:38] Chiba**
I'm sorry!
**[09:38] Tomo**
That was how I felt going into it, anyway.
**[09:42] Tomo**
But I picked you for the role because
I didn't think there'd be any problems. Yeah.
**[09:47] Tomo**
There were gradations used for her skin.
***SIGN*** Coloring techniques
**[09:52] Tomo**
That was something fresh.
**[09:55] Tomo**
With animation, you normally draw a line
where the color changes to indicate shading,
**[09:59] Tomo**
but this time, we made the edges
slightly lighter, using a gradation.
**[10:03] Chiba**
And that was special.
**[10:05] Tomo**
We only did it for skin tones.
**[10:05] Tomo**
For this time.
**[10:07] Tomo**
The coloring for everything
else was done a bit more flatly.
**[10:10] Tomo**
But by doing that with the skin,
**[10:12] Tomo**
it gave it more of a physical,
maybe even visceral, presence.
**[10:15] Tomo**
I didn't want it to look too flat, because
it'd look too comical for the material.
**[10:19] Chiba**
I see. Having to consider
all of that stuff must be tough.
**[10:23] Tomo**
It's actually something that,
because of how short the run-time is...
**[10:27] Chiba**
It made it possible?
**[10:28] Tomo**
Right. The short run-time allowed us to
try something unique with the coloring.
**[10:34] Tomo**
Something like that would be too much
work on a full-length TV series.
**[10:37] Tomo**
We also used lots of instruments
to make the sound effects.
***SIGN*** Things you can do with the shorter format
**[10:40] Tomo**
Since it was so short, that was
something we could play with.
**[10:43] Chiba**
I can see how making all those noises would
become a chore for a 30-minute show.
**[10:47] Tomo**
Exactly.
**[10:49] Tomo**
That's why traditional sound effects
tend to get used most of the time.
**[10:53] Tomo**
But since this was short, I thought we could
try something a little out of the ordinary.
**[10:59] Chiba**
When I saw the art in motion...
When I saw that...
***SIGN*** Touches used in portraying Ekoda-chan
**[11:04] Chiba**
I noticed she doesn't really move
a whole lot, but it's sort of...
**[11:07] Chiba**
I wouldn't call it *expressive*,
in spite of how conservative it is,
**[11:12] Chiba**
but it was really striking how
the art carried you through the story.
**[11:17] Chiba**
I wanted to make sure
I didn't go overboard. Like...
**[11:22] Chiba**
I thought, if I really went for it,
there'd be a disconnect,
**[11:27] Chiba**
so I tried to rein it in a bit.
**[11:30] Chiba**
I mean, it wasn't a hard and fast rule,
but I was trying to sorta be restrained.
**[11:35] Chiba**
Because I think that's
the kind of girl she is,
**[11:40] Chiba**
and the art gave that impression, too.
**[11:42] Kataoka**
Right.
**[11:44] Chiba**
So I didn't want to be too over-the-top.
**[11:48] Chiba**
And that's actually harder to do,
since just shouting things is pretty easy.
**[11:53] Chiba**
And today, there was that promo
we did... That was seriously tough.
**[11:59] Chiba**
I probably shouldn't say that!
**[12:01] Kataoka**
It's fine.
**[12:02] Chiba**
It was quite a challenge.
**[12:04] Chiba**
Compared to just going,
"Ah! It's on sale now!" and cutting loose,
**[12:08] Chiba**
or in this case, "Go watch
it now!" in a loud voice,
**[12:11] Chiba**
it was more like, "You can watch it now."
**[12:16] Chiba**
I can use that momentum and go all out,
**[12:19] Chiba**
but Ekoda-chan isn't like that at all.
**[12:23] Chiba**
She's so very, very restrained but
she still needs to be all, "You can watch it."
**[12:30] Chiba**
So, compared to most
of the characters I've done,
**[12:35] Chiba**
she was a real challenge.
For me, anyway.
**[12:38] Tomo**
But when we went in
and recorded that promo,
**[12:43] Tomo**
it ended up being pretty different
from how you sounded in the episode.
**[12:49] Chiba**
I kinda wanted to make her sound
like she was reading from a script.
***SIGN*** After the break,
thoughts on men!!
**[12:52] Tomo**
I see, I see.
**[12:53] Tomo**
I think the end result gave off a good
"If you want to watch it, then watch it" vibe.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Chiba Chiemi
***SIGN*** Episode 4's Director
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:07] Narrator**
Reunited once more on another project,
**[13:09] Narrator**
Director Mochizuki Tomomi
and Chiba Chiemi-san
**[13:12] Narrator**
spent the first half discussing
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
**[13:15] Narrator**
In the second half, they'll discuss
how Ekoda-chan deals with men.
***SIGN*** The characters of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Strips you would've liked to have adapted other than
the ones already in Episode 4 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
**[13:26] Tomo**
When taking the manga as a whole,
**[13:29] Tomo**
I really like the character of Friend M.
**[13:31] Kataoka**
Right.
**[13:32] Kataoka**
She's a good one.
**[13:32] Tomo**
I like how cool she is,
**[13:34] Tomo**
but in a different way from Ekoda-chan.
**[13:36] Tomo**
When I first got the offer to
work on the anime adaptation,
**[13:42] Tomo**
I actually went through the manga
and marked every strip she appeared in.
**[13:51] Tomo**
There's one in particular where Ekoda-chan
and Friend M go on a group date,
**[13:57] Tomo**
and they start judging the men
like it's some kind of pageant.
**[14:02] Tomo**
But I ended up taking
a different approach,
**[14:05] Tomo**
and decided to center the episode
around Maa-kun instead.
**[14:11] Tomo**
To be honest, all the
characters are really entertaining.
**[14:14] Tomo**
Or rather, they have depth to them.
**[14:17] Chiba**
Speaking as an actress,
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** All the characters are deep
**[14:20] Chiba**
I think her conversations with
her sister are really amusing.
**[14:23] Kataoka**
They really are.
**[14:24] Chiba**
And the way it plays up their different
standings in society is really good.
**[14:29] Chiba**
I mean, her sister is also sort of...
She's a character with her own quirks,
**[14:34] Chiba**
but whenever I saw the two
of them playing off each other,
**[14:40] Chiba**
I always thought those
moments were entertaining.
**[14:45] Tomo**
If you were playing her sister,
how would you make her sound?
**[14:51] Chiba**
Big Sis, huh? Big Sis...
**[14:55] Chiba**
But, y'know, it would really depend...
on how Ekoda-chan sounds.
***SIGN*** A performance can change depending on
how the other person approaches a scene
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
**[15:01] Chiba**
Like, depending on what Maa-kun
does first can really set the tone,
**[15:05] Chiba**
since she's initially
trying to feel him out.
**[15:09] Chiba**
Sort of like, "How's he going to be?
How's he going to be? He's such a natural..."
**[15:14] Chiba**
So I think, if I was playing her sister,
the delivery would change a lot...
**[15:23] Chiba**
based on how the person
playing Ekoda-chan did their take.
**[15:31] Tomo**
I see.
***SIGN*** Do you want to draw her sister?
**[15:33] Tomo**
Personally, I don't think I need to.
**[15:37] Tomo**
I mean, if she shows up in the other
episodes, and they turn out well,
**[15:42] Tomo**
then, yeah, that'd be really great.
**[15:46] Tomo**
But in terms of depicting her
myself, I'd find it really hard.
**[15:49] Tomo**
Because I don't understand her one bit.
**[15:52] Tomo**
I mean, I wouldn't feel right just having
her act stupid and that being the joke,
**[15:58] Tomo**
and because it's complicated,
I'd rather avoid it altogether.
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** What Ekoda-chan
thinks about men
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** On Ekoda-chan's thoughts about men
***SIGN*** Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
**[16:08] Chiba**
I seriously don't understand her.
**[16:10] Chiba**
How she sort of...
**[16:15] Chiba**
When it comes to men...
And this includes Maa-kun...
**[16:22] Chiba**
I just don't get it!
**[16:25] Kataoka**
You couldn't live like that?
**[16:27] Chiba**
I definitely couldn't! No way.
**[16:30] Tomo**
But seeing how she interacts with men,
and how she looks at them,
**[16:37] Tomo**
and how, internally,
**[16:39] Tomo**
she just finds them ridiculous.
**[16:40] Chiba**
She does tend to mock them a lot.
**[16:43] Tomo**
Isn't that something you can relate to?
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan is the type to keep her catty comments to herself
**[16:46] Chiba**
Yeah, but...
**[16:48] Chiba**
When I think of something
nasty, I blurt it out!
**[16:52] Chiba**
I'll just say it and cause
all sorts of problems.
**[16:55] Chiba**
To me, not actually saying these things,
and just thinking them in a detached way...
**[17:02] Chiba**
That's really impressive.
**[17:04] Kataoka**
You see how often she gets back home
**[17:05] Kataoka**
and just bangs on the wall in frustration.
**[17:06] Chiba**
Right, right.
**[17:07] Kataoka**
You don't have anything like that?
You tend to just bang on them in the moment?
**[17:10] Chiba**
Well, I don't always give them
a piece of my mind in every instance,
**[17:13] Chiba**
because I'm an adult, but...
**[17:15] Tomo**
Putting aside whether or not you
actually express it in the moment,
**[17:19] Tomo**
the way she thinks about men who are
being stupid, and her opinions of them,
**[17:23] Tomo**
I think that's something that's
pretty universal in women.
**[17:31] Tomo**
What do you think?
***SIGN*** Chiba-san's thoughts when she sees guys being stupid
**[17:32] Chiba**
I dunno, I wonder about that, because
that sort of feeling towards men...
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
**[17:38] Chiba**
Y'know, when you're just
like, "Ugh," about them?
**[17:40] Chiba**
I don't think it's all that
different from how you feel
**[17:44] Chiba**
when you see women
that you think are stupid.
**[17:48] Chiba**
I'm not too sure that gender
plays much of a role in it.
**[17:56] Chiba**
Because when I think,
"Ugh," it applies universally.
**[18:00] Chiba**
And I won't bite my tongue when it happens.
**[18:02] Chiba**
And the way that she does,
and keeps everything internal...
**[18:09] Chiba**
It's really mature.
**[18:11] Chiba**
It's impressive. I mean, she's 24.
**[18:13] Chiba**
I think that's seriously impressive.
**[18:14] Kataoka**
Yeah, she's only 24.
**[18:16] Chiba**
I mean, when I was 24,
I was still a total dummy.
**[18:22] Tomo**
I actually think, and
I've never met the author,
**[18:27] Tomo**
but you get the impression Ekoda-chan's
creator is quite impressive herself.
***SIGN*** Being impressed with Takinami Yukari, as a reader
**[18:33] Tomo**
As a reader, it's a manga I learned a lot from.
**[18:39] Tomo**
There's this phrase, and I don't know
if it was used as a slogan or something,
**[18:44] Tomo**
but I remember it being called:
"A bible for women; a guide for men."
**[18:48] Tomo**
But I took a lot away from it.
**[18:50] Tomo**
It scared me quite a bit, too.
**[18:53] Tomo**
Gave me lots to be wary about.
***SIGN*** Thoughts on today
**[18:56] Tomo**
It wasn't a lot of material, in terms
of run-time. It was really short...
**[19:00] Chiba**
Right.
**[19:01] Chiba**
I think that might've been a factor
**[19:02] Tomo**
Oh, definitely.
**[19:02] Chiba**
in how difficult it was.
**[19:03] Tomo**
I... I was actually about to say that...
**[19:05] Chiba**
Oh, sorry, I stepped on your toes!
**[19:08] Tomo**
It's fine. And the thing is,
I think it was worth taking on,
**[19:11] Tomo**
and I hope people get something out of it.
**[19:15] Tomo**
I mean, I've been making anime
for 30-something years now...
**[19:19] Tomo**
And what I realized working on this is,
**[19:23] Tomo**
sure, you're only doing enough art
to fill three minutes of airtime,
**[19:27] Tomo**
which, compared to a 30-minute
anime, is a lot less work,
**[19:32] Tomo**
and in one sense,
that makes it easier, but...
**[19:34] Tomo**
Making a quality product with
a run-time of only three minutes,
**[19:40] Tomo**
and one you're satisfied with,
is by no means, an easy feat.
**[19:43] Tomo**
If anything, because it's over so fast,
**[19:48] Tomo**
it's kind of hard to make sure
everything falls into place.
**[19:51] Tomo**
Although, today, after we'd finished
recording, I was rather relieved.
**[19:57] Tomo**
Even though I've been doing
this job for as long as I have,
**[20:01] Tomo**
I find there still aren't many
times when I feel I can relax,
**[20:04] Tomo**
because I've gotten used to the stress.
**[20:06] Tomo**
It was a rare feeling to have.
**[20:09] Tomo**
Like, say you have a variety of options,
**[20:11] Tomo**
having to choose the
right one is somewhat...
**[20:15] Tomo**
Compared to having a full-length story,
it's much harder to make a decision,
**[20:23] Tomo**
or even figure out what it is
you want to base your decisions on.
**[20:32] Chiba**
First, I saw the storyboards.
Then, I saw the completed script.
**[20:36] Chiba**
But even after all that,
I had my head in my hands,
**[20:40] Chiba**
worrying how I was going to approach it,
**[20:42] Chiba**
and that was the mood I was in when
I actually showed up to the recording.
**[20:48] Chiba**
I honestly thought I might
not be able to handle it.
**[20:51] Chiba**
It's been a long time since I felt like that.
Thinking, "Oh, I don't know if I can do this!"
**[20:56] Chiba**
But since I was given so much freedom,
and seeing Maa-kun's performance...
**[21:04] Chiba**
Not to mention, seeing the animation in
motion gives a different kind of feedback.
**[21:09] Tomo**
Yeah, I suppose it does.
**[21:10] Chiba**
Compared to the storyboards.
**[21:12] Chiba**
So being able to see how
everything was moving,
**[21:17] Chiba**
and how things were likely to
look in the finished product,
**[21:23] Chiba**
that really helped me get closer to the
finish line with my version of Ekoda-chan,
**[21:32] Chiba**
so I think my take was one that
was built upon all of those things.
**[21:42] Chiba**
And it was a good take, right?
**[21:45] Tomo**
Right. You pass.
**[21:46] Chiba**
Oh, thank you.
**[21:47] Chiba**
That made it sound like
I was forcing you to agree!
**[21:50] Chiba**
But, y'know, getting
that approval in the end...
**[21:53] Chiba**
I'll sleep like a rock tonight.
**[21:56] Kataoka**
You were still nervous about it?
**[21:58] Chiba**
I was! The whole time!
**[22:01] Chiba**
I was like "Argh! What do I do?!"
**[22:03] Kataoka**
Really?
**[22:03] Chiba**
Yeah, seriously!
**[22:06] Chiba**
It's been a long time since I felt like that.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:13] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
the director of Episode 5 and
Ekoda-chan's VA will tell all,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:20] Narrator**
and we'll hear some candid
remarks about recording sessions.
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:24] Narrator**
What unique challenges do the cast and crew
face when working on a short-form anime?
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:28] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Futon
***SIGN*** Shadow
***SIGN*** Maa-kun
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E5
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**[00:01] Ekoda**
Today, I can't wait to eat this youkan bun.
**[00:02] ---**
Youkan Bun
**[00:03] Ekoda**
It's raining out, so I seriously
don't want to go shopping.
**[00:07] Ekoda**
But my lucky bamboo is doing great,
**[00:09] Ekoda**
and so is my little saury!
**[00:11] Ekoda**
Aw, don't bite me!
**[00:14] Ekoda**
Ah, the glorious life of
a pet owner! Just kidding.
**[00:17] Ekoda**
Urgh, a lizard!
**[00:18] Ekoda**
No!
***SIGN*** Nooooo!
**[00:19] Ekoda**
I've developed this pathetic habit of
screaming quietly, even in my own apartment.
**[00:22] Ekoda**
The thought of it crawling up
inside me is freaking me out!
**[00:25] Ekoda**
Commence capture.
**[00:26] Ekoda**
Oh, I know!
**[00:28] Ekoda**
I can use what that painter
left behind; the one I met
**[00:32] Ekoda**
when I did that art installation called:
"The Mermaid Who Washed Ashore and Died."
**[00:37] Ekoda**
Let's give it a whirl!
**[00:41] Ekoda**
Like this, I can take on a giant monster!
**[00:44] Ekoda**
To make the "outfit" pink, I added
**[00:44] ---**
DANCE
**[00:45] Ekoda**
some white body paint left over
from a dance performance I did.
**[00:48] Ekoda**
You can imagine how hard it was
to draw the zipper on my back.
**[00:53] Ekoda**
I mustn't run away...
**[00:54] Ekoda**
Gotta remember all the times
I trained with my favorite dog.
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
**[00:56] Ekoda**
Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
***SIGN*** Bring it on!
**[00:57] Ekoda**
Take... this!
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
**[01:00] Ekoda**
Capture complete.
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Plop
***SIGN*** Bowl
***SIGN*** Pencil Board
**[01:02] Ekoda**
And after that epic battle,
I gained a new pet.
**[01:07] Roach**
Skitter, skitter, skitter...
**[01:08] Ekoda**
It's a gangsta roach!
**[01:10] Roach**
G!
**[01:11] Ekoda**
G's are not pets.
G's are not allies of humanity.
**[01:14] Ekoda**
G's must be defeated.
G's must be wiped out.
***SIGN*** Clip
***SIGN*** Clip
**[01:25] Ekoda**
Lucky Bamboo-chan!
**[01:27] Ekoda**
Our summer... is over.
**[01:29] Ekoda**
This is all that gangsta roach's fault!
**[01:36] Ekoda**
Capture complete!
**[01:38] Ekoda**
There were some kaki no tane crackers in that bag
I wanted to munch on, but so much for that.
**[01:41] Ekoda**
In you go!
**[01:51] Ekoda**
In your next life, get reincarnated as lucky
bamboo or as a saury. Just don't be a G.
**[02:00] Ekoda**
A mosquito invader!
**[02:02] Ekoda**
Mosquitoes are not pets.
Mosquitoes are not allies of humanity.
**[02:04] Ekoda**
Mosquitoes must be defeated.
Mosquitoes must be wiped out.
**[02:07] Ekoda**
I must kill it before it pierces my
skin and starts sucking my blood!
**[02:11] Ekoda**
Die! Die!
**[02:12] Ekoda**
Die, die!
**[02:24] Ekoda**
No!
**[02:25] Ekoda**
Huh?
**[02:26] Ekoda**
No!
**[02:33] Ekoda**
Gotcha!
**[02:34] Ekoda**
Wait! No! No! It's gonna violate me!
**[02:48] Ekoda**
And so, this summer of horror ends...
**[02:50] Ekoda**
And our summer can now begin.
**[02:58] Ekoda**
On second thought, maybe not.
***SIGN*** Youkan Bun
**[03:32] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
***SIGN*** 12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:53] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 5: Yonetani Yoshitomo,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Shishido Rumi-san.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Shishido Rumi
**[04:02] Narrator**
We'll cover a broad range of topics,
from behind the scenes stories,
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Shishido Rumi
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Director
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo
**[04:05] Narrator**
to how the director and
Shishido-san view of Ekoda-chan.
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
**[04:17] Yoyo**
It doesn't feel like we've finished yet.
***SIGN*** Your thoughts, now the recording is over
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[04:20] Yoyo**
We sure stretched ourselves.
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Ekoda-san
Shishido Rumi
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Director
Yonetani Yoshitomo
**[04:22] Rumi**
I'd say so, yeah.
**[04:23] Yoyo**
I got to do a whole lot of stuff
**[04:25] Kataoka**
Definitely.
**[04:26] Yoyo**
I wouldn't have been able to do elsewhere.
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:29] Yoyo**
But on a project like this,
I thought it would be a great approach.
**[04:31] Kataoka**
And it did.
**[04:33] Yoyo**
Yeah...
**[04:34] Yoyo**
I applaud you for hanging in there, too.
**[04:35] Rumi**
Oh, it was fine.
**[04:36] Rumi**
I'm generally a pretty mellow person.
**[04:40] Rumi**
So that level of excitement was... Yeah.
**[04:43] Yoyo**
It was fast-paced for you, right?
**[04:44] Rumi**
Yes, it was.
**[04:45] Yoyo**
The kind of breakneck speed
that leaves you breathless.
**[04:49] Rumi**
It was only three minutes' worth of material,
**[04:52] Rumi**
but it felt like I was talking
non-stop for ten minutes.
**[04:54] Yoyo**
I'm pretty sure you *did* talk for that long.
**[04:57] Rumi**
That's how it felt.
**[04:59] Rumi**
Other than that,
**[05:00] Rumi**
it struck me as being really arty.
**[05:03] Yoyo**
Right.
**[05:03] Rumi**
Like, an art project that could stand alone.
**[05:05] Yoyo**
That's what I was going for.
**[05:07] Rumi**
Yeah.
**[05:07] Rumi**
The cast was literally just me.
**[05:09] Yoyo**
Right, right.
**[05:10] Rumi**
So it felt like a lot of responsibility.
**[05:11] Yoyo**
Yeah, you're the main attraction on this.
**[05:13] Rumi**
Right.
**[05:14] Rumi**
But well, it was a lot of fun.
**[05:17] Yoyo**
We did a little bit...
**[05:19] Rumi**
You joined in for a bit, too, yeah.
**[05:19] ---**
Yeah, I joined in.
**[05:21] Rumi**
I'd say that made it interesting.
**[05:24] Rumi**
I don't often use a lower
register in my vocal work,
**[05:27] Rumi**
so it was a unique experience for me.
**[05:31] Yoyo**
It kinda makes you feel like you're being
**[05:33] Yoyo**
exposed to a woman's true feelings.
**[05:34] Rumi**
Oh, yeah.
**[05:35] Yoyo**
I think doing things like that transports
you into Ekoda-chan's world.
**[05:41] Yoyo**
That was the concept I was trying
to nail down in this episode.
**[05:44] Rumi**
I see.
**[05:46] Rumi**
Let's see...
***SIGN*** Things you struggled with in the studio
**[05:47] Rumi**
The way I had to be hyper
but maintain a low register
**[05:51] Rumi**
in order to express what goes on in women's
heads, which some might find intimidating...
**[05:58] Rumi**
That was the hardest part.
**[06:00] Yoyo**
You did a great job of giving it depth.
**[06:03] Rumi**
And lately, I haven't actually
done a lot of voice work,
**[06:06] Rumi**
so it took a moment or two
to get back into the swing of it.
**[06:10] Rumi**
That, and the speed. It was just so fast.
**[06:13] Rumi**
It was hard to keep up
with the animation.
**[06:15] Yoyo**
Especially as you were on your own.
**[06:16] Rumi**
You said it.
**[06:17] Yoyo**
Normally, it'd be more of a conversation,
**[06:20] Yoyo**
and you'd have a bit of back
and forth, taking turns to talk...
**[06:23] Rumi**
That's right.
***SIGN*** Have you worked together before?
**[06:25] Rumi**
On "Ghastly Prince Enma Burning Up,"
**[06:28] Rumi**
with Yamaguchi Kappei-san playing the lead.
**[06:29] Yoyo**
Yeah.
**[06:30] Rumi**
And I played his big sister...
**[06:32] Yoyo**
Right, Enpi-chan, his sister.
**[06:34] Rumi**
Enpi-chan was the role.
**[06:36] Yoyo**
That was one of Nagai Go-sensei's...
**[06:37] Rumi**
Yes.
**[06:38] Rumi**
She was nude, except for a cape.
**[06:39] Yoyo**
Right.
**[06:40] Yoyo**
I'm amazed they let us air that.
**[06:42] Yoyo**
She was naked the entire time.
**[06:44] Rumi**
But it's a piece of anime history now.
**[06:46] Yoyo**
Right.
**[06:46] Rumi**
That final episode was just mad.
**[06:50] Shishido**
It's gotten to the point where I basically
have a pet spider just hanging around.
***SIGN*** Shishido-san's profound respect for life (even bugs)
**[06:55] Shishido**
That's my level of pacifism.
**[06:56] Yoyo**
A pet spider?
**[06:58] Rumi**
Right. And they say they're good luck, too.
**[07:00] Rumi**
So I never get all, "Die! Blargh!"
myself. Emotionally, I mean.
**[07:05] Rumi**
I've voiced quite a few bad eggs, yeah.
***SIGN*** Shishido-san plays a lot of antagonists
**[07:06] Yoyo**
You get a lot of those kinds of roles.
**[07:08] Rumi**
I like to see them as...
How should I put it?
**[07:11] Rumi**
You get characters who
just live in the moment, right?
**[07:15] Rumi**
Ones that don't think about the future.
But my characters are always scheming.
**[07:21] Rumi**
Yeah.
**[07:22] Yoyo**
Problem is, she'll play a baddie,
**[07:24] Yoyo**
and they'll end up sounding cute!
**[07:27] Kataoka**
That's true.
**[07:29] Yoyo**
I think her voice just has
a natural cuteness to it.
**[07:31] Yoyo**
Personally, I find her really charming.
***SIGN*** Why Shishido-san was offered the role of Ekoda-chan
**[07:34] Kataoka**
Yeah, I agree.
**[07:35] Yoyo**
And I thought that was the
kind of voice I was aiming for.
**[07:39] Yoyo**
That was the main reason.
**[07:40] Rumi**
It was a bit different from
what I imagined it would be.
***SIGN*** Your thoughts on portraying Ekoda-chan?
**[07:44] Rumi**
Compared to what I got from
the manga when I read it...
**[07:49] Rumi**
I'm not sure what it was.
**[07:50] Rumi**
But when I thought about it,
what the director said was right,
**[07:53] Rumi**
and I'm not sure if I should be saying this,
but we made her a bit crude, right?
**[07:57] Yoyo**
It's for adults, after all.
**[07:58] Rumi**
Right. Yeah, that's true.
**[08:00] Rumi**
And that was something...
**[08:02] Rumi**
When I was looking at it initially,
**[08:06] Rumi**
I thought about putting something
of myself into the role.
**[08:10] Rumi**
But the material didn't call for it.
**[08:11] Rumi**
I seriously thought, "Wow,
this woman has a lot of energy!"
**[08:14] Rumi**
Like, "She's super crazy!"
**[08:16] Yoyo**
She's up and down a lot.
**[08:17] Rumi**
Right!
**[08:18] Rumi**
So I had to think, "Okay, so this part's
like *this*..." as I was voicing my lines. Yeah.
**[08:23] Rumi**
It was a lot of work.
**[08:24] Yoyo**
Had to switch gears a lot.
**[08:25] Rumi**
Yes.
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 5 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[08:31] Kataoka**
Out of all the storyboards we got in,
***SIGN*** Episode 5 has the most scene changes out of all 12 episodes
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
**[08:33] Kataoka**
Yonetani's ended up having
the most scene changes.
**[08:36] Yoyo**
Yeah, that makes sense.
**[08:38] Yoyo**
I haven't seen the other directors' episodes,
**[08:40] Kataoka**
Right.
**[08:41] Yoyo**
so I wouldn't know.
**[08:42] Kataoka**
Well, you see...
**[08:43] Kataoka**
You had 52 cuts in three
minutes of run-time, right?
**[08:46] Yoyo**
Sounds about right.
**[08:47] Kataoka**
That's incredible for the run-time.
**[08:49] Rumi**
Wow...
**[08:51] Yoyo**
That includes one really long cut, too.
**[08:53] Kataoka**
Yeah, exactly. I think it was the 44th.
**[08:56] Yoyo**
I went a little crazy with cuts.
**[08:58] Yoyo**
I got it into my head that this was the kind
of concept this anime was conceived for.
**[09:01] Rumi**
Right.
**[09:02] Yoyo**
So when I put it together, I thought
"I bet this is what they want."
**[09:05] Kataoka**
You were exactly right, too.
Right on the money.
**[09:07] Kataoka**
It had a lot of great action in it.
***SIGN*** Differences from the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" source material
**[09:09] Yoyo**
Well, there's not actually
any action in the manga,
**[09:12] Yoyo**
so I guess it's unexpected in that sense.
**[09:16] Yoyo**
But I wanted to incorporate an action scene
**[09:19] Yoyo**
that fit the tone
of the source material.
**[09:21] Yoyo**
So I delved into the later chapters of the
manga to find something to work with,
**[09:27] Yoyo**
and there were strips
where she did body painting.
**[09:32] Yoyo**
That was my inspiration,
and I built on it from there.
**[09:37] Yoyo**
I was shocked by the amount
of leeway I was given.
***SIGN*** The kind of finished product you wouldn't usually see on TV
**[09:39] Yoyo**
I said to myself,
"I'm allowed to zoom in this much?"
**[09:41] Rumi**
I've never seen anything like it!
**[09:44] Kataoka**
I don't think anyone has.
**[09:44] Rumi**
Not on regular TV, anyway!
**[09:47] Yoyo**
After I submitted the storyboards,
**[09:50] Yoyo**
I figured some parts were bound to get
rejected, but they okayed everything.
**[09:56] Rumi**
Wow!
**[09:57] Yoyo**
I was so glad they understood
what I was going for.
**[10:00] Kataoka**
And that fight with the
mosquito was so creative.
**[10:06] Yoyo**
The part with the mosquito
wasn't in the manga originally.
**[10:10] Yoyo**
The parts with the G roach
and the lizard were...
**[10:14] Yoyo**
So I took the vibe from
those parts of the story,
**[10:17] Yoyo**
and cranked up the volume a little, I guess.
**[10:19] Yoyo**
Just me and my body.
***SIGN*** The audio (sound effects) was handled by the director himself
**[10:23] Yoyo**
Shishido-san helped out a bit, too.
**[10:26] Kataoka**
Shishido-san, you chanted
Ekoda-chan 28 times.
***SIGN*** Shishido-san had to chant "Ekoda-chan" 28 times in the episode
**[10:31] Kataoka**
I don't think anyone...
**[10:32] Yoyo**
Was it really that many?
**[10:33] Kataoka**
But it was turned into part
of the background music.
**[10:36] Yoyo**
Yeah, that's how we ended up using it.
**[10:38] Rumi**
It made my head swell, to be honest with you.
**[10:41] Rumi**
Out of all 12 voice actresses,
I got to say "Ekoda-chan" the most!
**[10:48] Yoyo**
That's some accomplishment.
**[10:49] Rumi**
I get to hold that over them.
**[10:51] Yoyo**
For the audio, I wanted something exciting,
**[10:53] Yoyo**
but I wasn't sure how to get there.
**[10:56] Yoyo**
And I still wasn't sure after
I'd finished storyboarding.
**[11:01] Yoyo**
So, while watching the video, I played
around with some different sound effects,
**[11:06] Yoyo**
and I thought, "This ought to work."
**[11:09] Yoyo**
And once Shishido-san agreed to it,
I knew I was onto a winner.
**[11:14] Kataoka**
Yonetani-san, was there a particular reason
**[11:17] Kataoka**
or idea you had in mind
when you agreed to do this?
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** The reason he accepted the directing job
**[11:21] Yoyo**
It might take three days
to explain that one...
**[11:23] Kataoka**
We don't have that long,
but if you wanna get into it...
**[11:26] Rumi**
They can edit it.
**[11:27] Yoyo**
Well, nowadays with animation,
it takes a bunch of people to make it,
**[11:32] Yoyo**
with everyone working
on their own little bit,
**[11:35] Yoyo**
so you have all these people
working on one specific thing...
**[11:42] Yoyo**
And that, when added
altogether, results in a project.
**[11:47] Yoyo**
It's now at the point where you have 30 or 40
key artists, and 5 or 6 animation directors,
**[11:54] Yoyo**
so it's sort of hard to tell what you're
contributing on any given project.
**[11:59] Yoyo**
I liked the idea of breaking away from
that and doing something different.
**[12:03] Yoyo**
I mean, I'm kind of old school,
**[12:06] Yoyo**
and I was doing solo animation
projects when I was a student.
**[12:11] Yoyo**
And I was thinking how we really need
**[12:13] Yoyo**
to have something with
that kind of appeal still,
**[12:15] Yoyo**
so when I got the call, I figured I'd get
the chance to do something like that.
**[12:23] Yoyo**
I was very glad to take the job.
**[12:28] Yoyo**
I think, on the most basic level,
I wanted people to just enjoy watching it,
***SIGN*** As the director, what did you want
to get across in the three-minute run-time?
**[12:33] Yoyo**
and I also didn't want to wreck
the world of Ekoda-chan.
**[12:36] Yoyo**
So I wanted to move things around, so that
it would keep that unique atmosphere,
**[12:41] Yoyo**
and still be entertaining,
even with the short run-time.
**[12:47] Yoyo**
Beyond that, I wanted to create something
that would represent a kind of approach
**[12:52] Yoyo**
that feels like it's on the verge
of dying out in the industry.
**[12:58] Yoyo**
That was part of my conception.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Shishido Rumi
***SIGN*** Episode 5's Director
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:06] Narrator**
Director Yonetani talked about his passion
for the anime industry in the first half,
**[13:12] Narrator**
and in the second half, we get to hear his
and Shishido-san's take on Ekoda-chan.
**[13:16] Narrator**
Not only that, but we'll hear about when
they were 24, the same age as Ekoda-chan.
***SIGN*** The Director X The Voice Actress & Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
**[13:27] Yoyo**
Empathize, huh?
***SIGN*** Is there anything in Ekoda-chan's life you empathize with,
or anything you feel you have in common with her?
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
**[13:28] Yoyo**
You looked like you were
about to say: "Hell, no!"
**[13:31] Yoyo**
Sure, there are bits of her life
you wouldn't want for yourself...
**[13:33] Yoyo**
But I think her way of life
in general is quite appealing.
**[13:38] Rumi**
Well, I was raised in a temple...
**[13:40] Yoyo**
Oh, that's right.
**[13:41] Rumi**
And I think that comes out in my music.
**[13:44] Rumi**
Like, I have a song called
"The Night When All of Humanity is Dear."
**[13:47] Rumi**
So I have this tendency to like people
regardless of gender and so on.
**[13:52] Rumi**
That goes for people *and* animals.
I absolutely adore all living things.
**[13:57] Yoyo**
That's philosophical.
**[13:59] Rumi**
Oh, no, I was just thinking how
different that makes me from her.
**[14:02] Rumi**
She seems to have really strong
desires, and this really strong ego,
**[14:05] Rumi**
and I guess I just don't...
have those strong desires.
**[14:11] Yoyo**
So that's where you had to approach it from?
**[14:14] Rumi**
Well, considering the material,
I just hoped I had it in me
**[14:17] Rumi**
to turn in the kind of
performance you wanted.
**[14:19] Rumi**
Like, "Come on!"
**[14:22] Rumi**
So instead of trying to
tap into my own desires,
**[14:25] Rumi**
I concentrated more on kinda
showing how she lives her life.
**[14:31] Yoyo**
As a director, that's a bit like having
an unpolished stone with this sort of...
**[14:38] Yoyo**
unique shine to it, you know?
**[14:40] Yoyo**
And you want to try and see if you
can get it to shine in other ways, too.
**[14:45] Yoyo**
To see if you can tap into the potential
you see for a wider variety of approaches.
**[14:49] Rumi**
That's good to hear.
**[14:50] Rumi**
Something about hearing it in terms
of "potential" really makes me happy.
**[14:53] Yoyo**
Sometimes, you want to go the opposite
way to someone's natural inclinations.
**[14:57] Rumi**
Ah, yes, I get it.
**[14:58] Yoyo**
It can create a good contrast.
**[14:59] Rumi**
Right.
**[15:00] Yoyo**
That was the kind of direction
I wanted to give you.
**[15:03] Rumi**
That makes sense.
**[15:04] Rumi**
I think you did end up getting
an all-new Shishido Rumi in this case.
***SIGN*** What does Ekoda-chan mean to you?
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
**[15:10] Yoyo**
I like how Ekoda-chan's so proud,
**[15:12] Yoyo**
and I like how everything about
her tells us something about life.
**[15:18] Yoyo**
In the manga, there are a few things
she seriously won't budge on.
**[15:23] Yoyo**
And I like how you can get a grasp
on her... values, I guess you'd call it?
**[15:27] Yoyo**
I wanted to make sure I kept
Ekoda-chan true to her values.
**[15:31] Yoyo**
I really like how versatile she is.
**[15:33] Yoyo**
She can be a total goofball at times,
but really serious at other times,
**[15:37] Yoyo**
and there are certain times
where she gives it her all.
**[15:40] Yoyo**
I wasn't sure I'd be able to get
all that across in three minutes,
**[15:44] Yoyo**
and thought I'd have to leave
aspects of her character out...
**[15:46] Yoyo**
But I think, in the end, no matter
which angle you look at it from,
**[15:52] Yoyo**
I wanted to make sure I used those
three minutes to touch on every aspect,
**[15:57] Yoyo**
so the viewers would see
those elements of her character.
***SIGN*** How you approach short-form animation
**[16:01] Yoyo**
I've done ads and things like that before,
**[16:03] Kataoka**
Right.
**[16:05] Yoyo**
and I guess it's about waging
war on a much smaller scale.
**[16:07] Yoyo**
Like, if this was baseball, you'd treat
the regular season very differently
**[16:12] Yoyo**
to how you'd do things if you
made it to the Japan Series.
**[16:15] Yoyo**
You need to change your
approach to victory and defeat.
**[16:17] Yoyo**
It becomes a question of, "How much
can you condense into three minutes?"
**[16:21] Yoyo**
I also wanted to try and do things
I didn't think the other directors would do,
**[16:27] Yoyo**
but that I had a chance of pulling off.
**[16:31] Yoyo**
And then, cram it all into three minutes,
while keeping things balanced.
**[16:35] Kataoka**
In the studio earlier, Shishido-san,
**[16:38] Kataoka**
you came out with a story when
you heard the words: "24 years old."
**[16:42] Rumi**
I went on a kind of rant, yeah.
**[16:45] Kataoka**
So, when you were 24, what were you like?
**[16:49] Kataoka**
Compared to what we see in the show...
**[16:53] Rumi**
Well, let me think about that...
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** When you were 24, the same age as Ekoda-chan...
**[16:55] Rumi**
I think, when I was young, I dunno...
**[16:59] Rumi**
I mean, I have a great life now,
**[17:01] Rumi**
but back then, I was lonely, I think.
And it was a strong feeling of loneliness.
**[17:07] Rumi**
Ekoda-chan has a lot of casual relationships
to cover up those feelings, by comparison.
**[17:12] Rumi**
But since I was doing a lot
of voice acting back then...
**[17:20] Rumi**
I think, looking back on it now,
it was a precious time.
**[17:24] Yoyo**
Those times led to these, right?
**[17:26] Rumi**
Yeah.
**[17:28] Yoyo**
When I was 24, I was already in animation.
**[17:33] Yoyo**
And I've been a director
for a surprisingly long time.
**[17:35] Yoyo**
I mean, not only has it been a long time,
but I started directing at 26.
**[17:41] Yoyo**
And it feels like I went from
then to now in the blink of an eye.
**[17:46] Yoyo**
And when I was 24, I knew no fear.
**[17:52] Yoyo**
That's just how guys are.
**[17:53] Kataoka**
I think so, too.
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Director Yonetani
Yoshitomo's depiction
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
**[18:00] Yoyo**
Well, I think Ekoda-chan's
real appeal isn't superficial.
***SIGN*** What went through your head when you were directing?
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
**[18:05] Yoyo**
She's multifaceted, and her charm comes
from all of those aspects of her character.
**[18:10] Yoyo**
So I thought showing her highs and lows
**[18:13] Yoyo**
would give the viewers a taste of that...
versatility, and of her complex character.
**[18:19] Yoyo**
Those moments highlight
the depths of her character.
**[18:22] Rumi**
I think you're right. Like, in certain
ways, she's almost maternal...
**[18:28] Rumi**
And she has these cute moments, too.
**[18:31] Rumi**
There are a lot of
different sides to Ekoda-chan.
**[18:35] Yoyo**
I mean, it's possible to do, but...
***SIGN*** Do you use the kind of layered sound effects you did in this episode a lot?
**[18:38] Yoyo**
Generally speaking,
I'm usually not allowed to.
**[18:42] Yoyo**
In the olden days, I could,
but not so much nowadays.
**[18:47] Yoyo**
When you were working on older comedies,
**[18:50] Yoyo**
you had a lot of freedom to mess around.
**[18:54] Kataoka**
True.
**[18:55] Yoyo**
Like sticking in random
live-action sequences.
**[18:57] Yoyo**
Though, a certain Pop You-Know-What
series has been bringing some of that back.
**[19:02] Yoyo**
But it was more common back in the day.
**[19:05] Yoyo**
I guess you could say things like
that come and go with the times,
**[19:09] Yoyo**
in terms of acceptance.
**[19:11] Yoyo**
And I thought I would be able
to get away with it on this project.
**[19:16] Yoyo**
The note it opens and closes on:
***SIGN*** Was there any particular part of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" Episode 5 you were concerned about?
**[19:20] Yoyo**
The youkan bun.
**[19:22] Yoyo**
The line was actually only voiced once, but...
**[19:28] Yoyo**
With that line, I wanted to make sure
you could hear Ekoda-chan's anticipation.
**[19:33] Yoyo**
She was really looking forward to it,
and then, she had to give up on it.
**[19:37] Yoyo**
That was the direction
I gave to get that idea across.
**[19:42] Yoyo**
It was a good way to
bookend the episode, I think.
**[19:45] Yoyo**
So I wanted to emphasize it.
**[19:49] Yoyo**
I always kept the audience in mind,
***SIGN*** Things you kept in mind while working on the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[19:52] Yoyo**
because I imagine there will
be fans of the manga watching,
**[19:57] Yoyo**
so I wanted to make something
that wouldn't disappoint them.
**[20:02] Yoyo**
But beyond that, I also wanted something...
**[20:04] Yoyo**
In the world of anime right now,
there are so many shows getting pumped out.
**[20:08] Yoyo**
And I imagine it's hard to
choose what to watch,
**[20:14] Yoyo**
so I wanted to... I don't
want to say, "Make it weird,"
**[20:20] Yoyo**
but I wanted it to stand out
like a cactus in a field of flowers.
**[20:24] Yoyo**
That's the kind of appeal I wanted.
**[20:27] Yoyo**
Like, there'd be a beautiful
flower blooming on that cactus.
**[20:31] Yoyo**
Something that's beautiful because
it's growing out of a prickly cactus.
**[20:34] Yoyo**
I thought that if I went
for something like that,
**[20:36] Yoyo**
among all the various anime projects, it'd
stand out from the crowd and look appealing,
**[20:44] Yoyo**
so that was what I was
thinking as I worked on it.
**[20:46] Rumi**
I think Kataoka-san explained it
perfectly to me earlier today.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's charm
**[20:51] Rumi**
Like, she doesn't let herself
get caught up in things,
**[20:56] Rumi**
but instead, exercises self-control,
**[20:59] Rumi**
and roots out her place in all of it.
**[21:02] Rumi**
And that's how she lives her life.
**[21:04] Rumi**
I think that's really what
makes her stand out.
**[21:09] Rumi**
I mean, everyone around her
might just go with the flow,
**[21:12] Rumi**
but I personally would prefer doing what
she does. So I admire that in her.
**[21:18] Yoyo**
I honestly think Ekoda-chan might be
a self-insert for the author of the manga.
**[21:23] Yoyo**
I've thought that from the start.
**[21:25] Yoyo**
I know she makes claims to the contrary, but...
**[21:29] Yoyo**
I just get this feeling that...
she's sharing herself with the world.
**[21:34] Yoyo**
And that's really appealing.
Because it's a hard thing to do.
**[21:39] Yoyo**
But by doing it, you can tell that
the goal is for you to enjoy the story,
**[21:46] Yoyo**
and I think that's part of why
Ekoda-chan feels so lively in the manga.
**[21:52] Yoyo**
There's a certain charm to that.
**[21:54] Kataoka**
Right.
**[21:54] Yoyo**
I really love that aspect of it.
**[21:58] Yoyo**
There are some depressing parts in
the manga that are easy to relate to, too,
**[22:03] Yoyo**
and those also stick in my memory.
**[22:06] Yoyo**
I hope we inspire people
to check out the manga.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:14] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director and
Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
we'll hear how "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
Episode 6 was meticulously put together.
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:21] Narrator**
The director and Ekoda-chan
talk candidly about their troubles.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:25] Narrator**
What kind of behind the scenes story
can you only get with Ekoda-chan?
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:28] Narrator**
Find out next time!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Lower body
***SIGN*** Upper body
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Shadows
# E6
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**[00:03] Ekoda**
Ekoda Station, on the Seibu Ikebukuro line.
**[00:07] Ekoda**
Not Jiyugaoka on the Tokyu line.
Nor Shiki on the Tobu line.
**[00:12] Ekoda**
And certainly not the bustling JR Kichijoji.
**[00:15] Ekoda**
A train station for a neighborhood
on the margins: Ekoda.
***SIGN*** Rinshi
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[00:30] Ekoda**
The thing about modern women is,
no matter which side of them you see...
**[00:38] Ekoda**
They have white, black...
**[00:45] Ekoda**
Blue, red...
**[00:48] Ekoda**
Beige...
**[00:50] Ekoda**
And of course, pink,
mixed into their palette...
**[00:53] Ekoda**
When they're 24.
**[01:04] Ekoda**
At home, I'm typically naked.
**[01:05] Ekoda**
Oof...
**[01:07] Ekoda**
It's convenient, and economical.
**[01:10] Ekoda**
And liberating.
**[01:11] Ekoda**
I can open and close what I want,
when I want, as the mood takes me.
**[01:26] Ekoda**
Though, that doesn't mean...
***SIGN*** Junko
**[01:33] Ekoda**
...I don't get a little
embarrassed by how erotic it is.
**[01:43] Ekoda**
Hot!
**[01:48] Ekoda**
I've learned a trick or two in my time,
**[01:51] Ekoda**
but when it comes to how a sweet young
woman unwinds after an exhausting day...
**[01:57] Ekoda**
Shockingly...
**[01:59] Ekoda**
The same way as your average
middle-aged dude, pretty much.
***SIGN*** Maa-kun
**[02:18] Ekoda**
Sure. Where are you?
**[02:27] Ekoda**
I'll be right there.
**[02:35] Ekoda**
But I'm not like your
average middle-aged dude.
**[02:38] Ekoda**
I have dreams, hopes,
and battles to wade through.
**[02:42] Ekoda**
24 years old, and in the prime of my life.
**[02:45] Ekoda**
I'm Ekoda-chan... and even
flowers blush when I'm around.
**[03:32] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
***SIGN*** 12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:53] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 6: Takahashi Ryosuke,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Mimori Suzuko.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Mimori Suzuko
**[04:02] Narrator**
This is the first time the two
of them have worked together!
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Mimori Suzuko
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Director
**[04:07] Narrator**
Get ready to hear their fresh takes!
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
**[04:17] Taka**
This is the first time I've worked
on something this short.
***SIGN*** Thoughts after today's recording
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
Mimori Suzuko
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Director
Takahashi Ryosuke
**[04:20] Taka**
Most of the time, in my day,
no matter how short something was,
**[04:25] Taka**
it'd still have a 26-episode
run at the very least.
**[04:28] Taka**
But after meeting Mimori-san,
**[04:30] Taka**
I got this perfect image
**[04:30] Mimori**
Right.
**[04:31] Taka**
of what I wanted my take on Ekoda-chan to be.
**[04:34] Mimori**
Right.
**[04:35] Taka**
To put it another way, normally,
I have to ask a production committee
**[04:39] Taka**
if I can do things
a certain way, but this time...
**[04:42] Taka**
they were the ones who wanted
me to do things a certain way.
**[04:49] Taka**
And that felt good.
**[04:51] Mimori**
Thank you.
**[04:53] Mimori**
Well, there was a lot of monologuing...
**[04:57] Mimori**
This takes place after
Ekoda-chan gets home,
**[05:00] Mimori**
and I figured it had to give the impression
of someone who's in their own little world.
**[05:06] Mimori**
The idea is that, it just sorta flows,
in a stream of consciousness kinda way.
**[05:11] Mimori**
But even then, there are parts
like when the oil splashes her...
**[05:15] Mimori**
I was really hoping I could
pull off a natural-sounding take
**[05:20] Mimori**
to complement the sort of "day
in the life" scene that was depicted.
**[05:26] Taka**
Well, to me, Ekoda-chan is kind of
a symbol of the sort of common...
***SIGN*** What kind of character did you want to portray
with your version of Ekoda-chan?
**[05:34] Taka**
I guess you'd call them "desires"?
Or maybe "laziness" is more apt?
**[05:38] Taka**
But, underneath it all, she's
got that spark of earnestness.
**[05:43] Taka**
It's actually pretty hard
to get through life
**[05:46] Taka**
without that little bit
of conviction, you know?
**[05:49] Taka**
It was all of those things combined that
I felt when I was reading the original manga,
**[05:57] Taka**
and I really took a shine to that little bit
of earnestness she has deep down inside her.
**[06:06] Mimori**
Well, I came to the original
via the collected volumes,
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[06:10] Mimori**
and I remember thinking,
"This character seems really plausible."
**[06:15] Mimori**
I think, a lot of the time,
men tend to imagine that women...
**[06:20] Mimori**
When they try to picture what their
personal lives are like at home,
**[06:24] Mimori**
I think a lot of men have this vision of us
all having really glamorous home lives,
**[06:31] Mimori**
but I think, in reality, and
especially considering she's 24,
**[06:38] Mimori**
the picture it paints
of bachelorette life
**[06:41] Mimori**
makes me go, "Yeah, that sounds about right."
**[06:46] Mimori**
And that made it really easy
for me to relate to, personally.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 6 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
**[06:55] Mimori**
After reading the manga, and then,
reading the script and seeing the footage,
***SIGN*** Was the image you had of her from reading the manga
the same as the one you had when you did the recording?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
**[07:02] Mimori**
and seeing what they had in common...
**[07:05] Mimori**
The impression I got fairly early on
when I was reading through,
**[07:10] Mimori**
was that she just *felt* like
someone who could exist in real life.
**[07:15] Mimori**
In particular, when she's
taking off all her clothes,
**[07:18] Mimori**
then just lays back and
starts opening and closing her legs...
**[07:22] Mimori**
I thought that was really funny,
and I actually laughed out loud.
**[07:26] Kataoka**
I thought that part was amazing
when I saw the storyboards.
**[07:29] Mimori**
I did, too.
**[07:30] Kataoka**
How did you...
**[07:31] Taka**
Well, the thing about the
part where she's stripping off...
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** The original take on
"Ekoda-chan takes off her underwear"
**[07:36] Taka**
When I produced the
first draft of that storyboard...
**[07:39] Taka**
There's this move I do
whenever I get in the bath...
**[07:42] Taka**
See, I wear boxers.
**[07:44] Taka**
I let them drop, then kick them up,
and toss them in the laundry.
**[07:48] Taka**
And I thought, since that's a bigger motion,
**[07:49] Mimori**
Wow.
**[07:50] Taka**
it'd be more of a visual treat for the viewer.
**[07:55] Taka**
But one of the women doing the animation
**[07:57] Mimori**
Yeah?
**[07:58] Taka**
turned around and said:
"No one would ever do this."
**[08:00] Taka**
"No matter how unladylike she is,
no woman would do this."
**[08:02] Taka**
"This is how women take their clothes off."
**[08:05] Taka**
And I was like, "Okay, I just thought
it'd be more interesting my way."
**[08:09] Taka**
But you know,
**[08:11] Taka**
being able to show the
way women act in private,
**[08:15] Taka**
which is something I'm not familiar with?
**[08:18] Taka**
That's what we were able to do with this.
**[08:20] Taka**
So, as a creator, even if I thought
the other way was visually appealing,
**[08:27] Taka**
if I hear the words, "No woman would
ever do this," I have to go, "Oh, right."
**[08:31] Taka**
And whenever you have
a collaborative process,
**[08:34] Taka**
that kind of back-and-forth is a lot of fun.
**[08:35] Mimori**
You're totally right.
**[08:38] Mimori**
I got the impression that she was really cute.
**[08:41] Mimori**
Like, how she used those shopping
bags as an impromptu apron.
**[08:45] Mimori**
That was really clever.
**[08:47] Mimori**
I was impressed with Ekoda-chan.
**[08:49] Taka**
I mean, she's always naked.
***SIGN*** The combination of nudity and paper bags as an apron
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
**[08:53] Taka**
But I wanted to accentuate that fact.
**[08:55] Taka**
And I wanted to use something
that was a harsh contrast to nakedness.
**[09:00] Taka**
So that's why we went with that.
**[09:02] Taka**
It was the first idea
**[09:04] Taka**
that popped into my head, to be honest.
**[09:05] Mimori**
Wow.
**[09:07] Taka**
I was kinda worried about
what I'd do if it got rejected,
**[09:10] Taka**
but since it wasn't...
**[09:12] Mimori**
It was a really creative idea.
**[09:15] Kataoka**
It's exactly the kind of thing she'd do.
**[09:16] Mimori**
Yeah, isn't it just?
**[09:18] Mimori**
I mean, being naked like that...
**[09:20] Mimori**
There are a lot of people who do actually
like to walk around in the nude at home.
**[09:25] Mimori**
So that would probably work for them.
**[09:25] Taka**
Well, I figured she'd have come up with some way
**[09:28] Taka**
to deal with oil splashing.
**[09:29] Taka**
And if she just stuck on an apron,
**[09:30] Mimori**
It's practical.
**[09:32] Taka**
that'd be too ordinary.
**[09:34] Taka**
Plus, wearing just an apron
**[09:36] Mimori**
Yeah, you've got a point.
**[09:36] Taka**
is a little *too* sexy, right?
**[09:38] Taka**
And I didn't want it to turn into
**[09:40] Taka**
some kind of random erotic scene.
**[09:42] Mimori**
Right.
**[09:43] Taka**
So we went a different way.
**[09:44] Mimori**
And that led to the paper bag.
**[09:45] Taka**
Right.
**[09:47] Mimori**
At first, as I was reading, I thought about
giving the monologue more of a pop feel,
***SIGN*** Issues during the voice-over
**[09:54] Mimori**
but when I heard they were
putting enka music underneath...
**[09:56] Mimori**
That gave me the impression that Ekoda-chan
was totally absorbed in the moment.
**[10:00] Mimori**
Like she was treating it as a documentary
of her own life, produced by her.
**[10:04] Mimori**
So I tried to lean towards making it
more interesting in that way, instead.
**[10:10] Taka**
Well, with Nakajima Miyuki-san's music...
***SIGN*** The melody of the ending song
**[10:11] Taka**
Right.
**[10:12] Taka**
It's not really your typical enka song,
**[10:15] Taka**
but it's sorta... more rousing, you know?
**[10:17] Mimori**
Right, right.
**[10:18] Taka**
That's what she's known for.
**[10:19] Taka**
That's the feeling I get from it.
**[10:22] Kataoka**
That's an easy-to-understand explanation.
**[10:22] Taka**
Like... it's not profound or anything,
**[10:26] Taka**
but it still cheers you up, right?
**[10:28] Mimori**
Right, right.
**[10:28] Mimori**
And, well...
**[10:29] Mimori**
From there, we just had to pick
the right spot for it to start playing.
**[10:34] Mimori**
That was the plan I had in my head.
**[10:37] Taka**
The thing is, the contents of these volumes...
***SIGN*** The plot for Episode 6 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
**[10:40] Taka**
Three minutes is nowhere near enough
**[10:44] Taka**
to even cover what's in one volume.
**[10:44] Kataoka**
Right.
**[10:46] Mimori**
Not in three minutes.
**[10:47] Mimori**
If I wanted to tell a whole
story adapted from the strips,
**[10:53] Mimori**
three minutes just wouldn't be long enough.
**[10:58] Mimori**
And I thought about trying to include
material lifted directly from the manga,
**[11:06] Mimori**
but ultimately decided I was better off
not using any particular moments from it.
**[11:12] Mimori**
Other than the fact she's always naked,
**[11:15] Mimori**
and just... I wanted to take her nudity,
**[11:20] Mimori**
and depict the way she moves
as naturally as possible.
**[11:23] Mimori**
I wanted to show that side of her,
without making it too jokey.
**[11:27] Mimori**
And if I'm honest about why I did that...
**[11:29] Mimori**
The other 12... well, 11 directors?
**[11:33] Mimori**
They're all really good.
Every single one of them.
**[11:37] Mimori**
They're all... masters of comedy.
**[11:41] Mimori**
On top of being good at
making anime shows in general.
**[11:45] Mimori**
I can't win on any front!
**[11:47] Mimori**
I mean, on a technical level, my own projects...
**[11:51] Mimori**
They're never that fancy, right?
**[11:54] Mimori**
So when I was considering
how to approach this,
**[11:59] Mimori**
I figured that nobody else would
do this with the character,
**[12:03] Mimori**
and... well...
**[12:07] Mimori**
I wanted to take a segment of
Ekoda-chan's life, and just zoom in on it.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Mimori Suzuko
***SIGN*** Episode 6's Director
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[12:19] Narrator**
From shopping bag aprons to
how to take off your underwear,
**[12:22] Narrator**
Director Takahashi paid close attention
to the minute details of daily life.
**[12:27] Narrator**
In the second half, he'll give
an even more in-depth insight
**[12:30] Narrator**
into the construction of Episode 6.
***SIGN*** Director Takahashi
Ryosuke's Plan
And Direction
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
**[12:40] Taka**
Well, after actually hearing it,
***SIGN*** Was Mimori-san's performance
different from what you imagined it would be?
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
**[12:41] Taka**
the more we erred toward realism,
the more it actually felt like it was real.
**[12:46] Taka**
But... since this is three minutes long,
**[12:50] Taka**
if it was *too* realistic,
it'd be kind of a drag to watch.
**[12:54] Taka**
So I had a chat with the audio director,
**[13:02] Taka**
and decided it'd be better with
a bit more bounce and modulation.
**[13:08] Taka**
That was what I asked for.
**[13:10] Taka**
And she not only delivered that,
**[13:12] Taka**
but went above and beyond,
without losing sight of the goal,
**[13:16] Taka**
so it was great.
**[13:17] Mimori**
That's good to hear.
**[13:19] Kataoka**
So, in that sense, there was a lot
of empathy and accommodation.
**[13:22] Taka**
Right.
**[13:22] Taka**
I think it's great she didn't end up
going over the top with it.
**[13:25] Mimori**
Thank you.
**[13:27] Kataoka**
Something about a woman
trying to make it on her own...
***SIGN*** In specific terms,
what kind of directions did you give Mimori-san?
**[13:31] Kataoka**
When it comes to old guys...
I wouldn't say they like them in particular,
**[13:36] Kataoka**
but they sort of view them with
fewer prejudices. That's what I think.
**[13:41] Kataoka**
So when they come home beat after work...
**[13:46] Kataoka**
It's usually after work, anyway.
**[13:48] Kataoka**
At times like that, you kinda
get lost in your own world,
**[13:52] Kataoka**
and there's that moment where you
think: "What am I gonna do to relax?"
**[13:56] Kataoka**
So out comes the beer, or the malt liquor.
**[13:58] Kataoka**
And I bet they come to the realization that,
**[14:00] Kataoka**
"All those old dudes out there, busting
their humps, are doing the same, huh?"
**[14:04] Kataoka**
And even though they say, mockingly,
"They're doing the same damned thing!"
**[14:10] Kataoka**
somewhere underneath that derisive tone,
**[14:14] Kataoka**
there's a sort of... affection.
A sense of camaraderie. Right?
**[14:18] Kataoka**
Shared by people who go out into the world,
work at their job, then come home again.
**[14:22] Kataoka**
And that's their daily routine.
**[14:24] Kataoka**
That was something I asked the audio
director to help me get across.
**[14:32] Kataoka**
It keeps coming back
to this perception I have
**[14:34] Kataoka**
of there being no real difference
between Ekoda-chan and myself.
**[14:39] Kataoka**
And I wanted that to come across,
both in the visuals and the audio.
**[14:46] Kataoka**
And if we manage that, it'll be great.
**[14:51] Mimori**
At the beginning of the episode, the weird
things she says about her neighborhood...
***SIGN*** Things the sound director helped her figure out
**[14:57] Mimori**
And what she says isn't really
meant in a negative way,
**[15:01] Mimori**
so I was asked to make the lines
sound somewhat affectionate.
**[15:06] Mimori**
And that made me realize,
Ekoda-chan is kind of...
**[15:10] Mimori**
She's not exactly cynical, but she's very...
down-to-earth, especially in how
**[15:17] Mimori**
she analyzes her current situation
and tries to find a path to happiness.
**[15:23] Mimori**
And I thought that made Ekoda-chan
really appealing and likable as a person.
**[15:31] Mimori**
Instead of just being, like, "I'm not fond of
this neighborhood, but I have to live here."
**[15:35] Mimori**
Ekoda-chan kinda views Ekoda
as this weird halfway house.
**[15:39] Mimori**
Where she's not near the center of the city,
but she's not out in the country, either.
**[15:43] Mimori**
But somehow, she's comfortable there.
**[15:46] Mimori**
That sorta gets across her true feelings.
**[15:53] Mimori**
And I felt that was an important
element of the episode.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's charm
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Your favorite scene in Episode 6
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
**[16:06] Mimori**
It's one of the bits near the end,
**[16:09] Mimori**
where she's been getting calls
from all kinds of people,
**[16:13] Mimori**
but at the very end, she decides to
pick up when she sees this one guy calling.
**[16:17] Mimori**
"If it's him, I'll answer."
There's something about that.
**[16:21] Mimori**
It's the first time all episode
that she speaks to another person.
**[16:25] Mimori**
And right after that, she's like, "Well,
maybe I'm not like an old man, after all."
**[16:30] Mimori**
The way she doesn't exactly take
back everything she just said,
**[16:38] Mimori**
but she reminds us that she's only 24.
**[16:42] Mimori**
And she's still sorta glamorous,
even if she does have her own troubles.
**[16:48] Mimori**
But something about the way her
mood does a total 180 like that...
**[16:54] Mimori**
The way she just changes her mind,
and sets her sights on going out...
**[16:59] Mimori**
That's another thing about
her that I really loved.
***SIGN*** Similarities with Ekoda-chan
**[17:03] Taka**
I think Ekoda-chan goes through a lot,
**[17:08] Taka**
and in the manga,
**[17:11] Taka**
there's this guy who
**[17:12] Taka**
doesn't exactly treat her right.
**[17:14] Kataoka**
Maa-kun.
**[17:14] Mimori**
Right, right.
**[17:16] Taka**
Even though Ekoda-chan only has eyes for him,
**[17:19] Taka**
and all the while, she's thinking: "This little..."
**[17:22] Taka**
She still can't bring herself to hate him.
**[17:27] Taka**
When you look at that part
in isolation, it's kind of sad.
**[17:33] Taka**
But Ekoda-chan... As much as
he irritates her, she still cares for him.
**[17:40] Taka**
And it's more than just that
relationship... I think Ekoda-chan...
**[17:45] Taka**
She doesn't like to...
give up on things, you know?
**[17:50] Taka**
She, well... She doesn't give up on life.
**[17:53] Taka**
Through all her trials and
tribulations, she doesn't give up.
**[17:56] Taka**
She has all these bad experiences, yet on
the whole, she still likes the world as it is.
**[18:02] Taka**
I think that's something
we both have in common.
**[18:08] Taka**
I think the world's a good place...
Or at the very least, I enjoy everyday life.
**[18:14] Mimori**
I feel the same way.
It's sort of like what you said...
**[18:18] Mimori**
Ekoda-chan seems to love her day-to-day,
or at least, she's optimistic about it,
**[18:24] Mimori**
and no matter what kind of unfair
treatment she's subjected to,
**[18:27] Mimori**
or how much she gets irritated at
all the dolled-up girls around her,
**[18:33] Mimori**
she just knows, deep down,
that she can't be like them.
**[18:38] Mimori**
And something about that...
**[18:42] Mimori**
It's the way she doesn't
ever let it get her down,
**[18:48] Mimori**
and how she just tries to enjoy life...
**[18:52] Mimori**
She's doing what she can to get as much
enjoyment out of life as possible,
**[18:56] Mimori**
and that's something I think
we have in common.
**[19:00] Mimori**
When something really gets me down,
**[19:06] Mimori**
instead of going, "Aw, no..."
I prefer to go, "Oh, well!"
**[19:11] Mimori**
and try to just shift
gears on my mental state.
**[19:14] Mimori**
That's something I think we might both do.
***SIGN*** Boil down Ekoda-chan's appeal into a few words
**[19:19] Taka**
You could call it... run-of-the-mill optimism.
**[19:23] Taka**
I mean, everybody has their own dreams,
**[19:26] Taka**
but whether or not you achieve them
is a personal thing, and hard to judge.
**[19:31] Taka**
But when you have something
you're shooting for,
**[19:34] Taka**
it's easier to look forward to it.
**[19:36] Taka**
That's how I've lived up to now, personally,
and it's still a big part of my life.
**[19:43] Taka**
Though, there's a big difference
between 24 and 76,
**[19:46] Taka**
but I don't think age is really a factor.
**[19:50] Mimori**
She just seems like a girl with charm to me.
**[19:53] Mimori**
A charming girl. That's Ekoda-chan.
**[19:54] Taka**
Right.
**[19:56] Mimori**
I mean, as she goes through life,
Ekoda-chan does have moments
**[19:59] Mimori**
where she feels bitter
or gets jealous of others.
**[20:02] Mimori**
It's not all positive, by any means, but...
**[20:07] Mimori**
You can't hold it against her,
**[20:09] Mimori**
and I think that's because something about
Ekoda-chan... won't let you judge her that way.
**[20:17] Mimori**
And you'd think you'd find
people like that everywhere,
**[20:19] Mimori**
but they're actually pretty rare.
**[20:22] Mimori**
It sorta makes me want
to be that kind of woman.
**[20:28] Taka**
Well, making animation like this...
***SIGN*** Thoughts on today
**[20:35] Taka**
I think I'll be doing it for a while yet.
**[20:40] Taka**
And before I came in today...
for the recording, I mean...
**[20:47] Taka**
Thinking about how the project was
gonna come together in the end...
**[20:52] Taka**
Having a hand in every aspect of it...
That was something I really enjoyed.
**[20:55] Taka**
Working in animation, where you
have the vocals, along with the music,
**[21:00] Taka**
and the sound effects,
and the way it all comes together...
**[21:04] Taka**
It made me remember what it was
I enjoyed when I first got into this business.
**[21:08] Taka**
That's what I took away from it.
**[21:10] Mimori**
At first, since I was by myself,
I was kind of worried.
**[21:14] Mimori**
I mean, coming in and just...
being the only one in the booth
**[21:19] Mimori**
was a new experience for me,
so I was pretty nervous,
**[21:24] Mimori**
but once I'd met the director,
and seen how kind he was...
**[21:29] Mimori**
That really helped me to relax,
and being able to, um...
**[21:33] Mimori**
talk about things like this,
in this round-table discussion,
**[21:38] Mimori**
and hearing about how
he used to work in an office,
**[21:43] Mimori**
it made me think about how
I ended up as a voice actress.
**[21:49] Mimori**
I could sort of see parallels there.
**[21:52] Mimori**
I started out in theater, and really
had no idea about anime at first,
**[21:58] Mimori**
but I started getting into it
when I became a voice actress.
**[22:00] Mimori**
And meeting someone else like
that by chance was really... yeah.
**[22:05] Mimori**
It was really nice to make a new connection.
**[22:08] Taka**
Yeah.
**[22:10] Narrator**
That's it for today's discussion.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:14] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
we'll hear some personal behind-the-scenes
stories about anime production
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:20] Narrator**
from Episode 7's director
and Ekoda-chan's VA,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:23] Narrator**
along with finding out what exactly makes
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" so entertaining.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:27] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Face
**[23:25] ---**
Ear
**[24:08] ---**
Hair
**[24:59] ---**
Coloring
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E7
Source: [Crunchyroll](https://www.crunchyroll.com/watch/GR0XZ4K4Y/untitled)
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**[00:01] Ekoda**
Hello, one and all. Ekoda-chan here.
**[00:05] Ekoda**
If you're wondering how I ended up
looking like I'm on some game show...
**[00:09] Ekoda**
Well, we'll get to that.
**[00:11] Ekoda**
Do you believe in the red thread of fate?
***SIGN*** Red
Strings
***SIGN*** Use fashion to change
your fate!
**[00:30] Ekoda**
Let me see! Let me see!
**[00:31] Ekoda**
Where the hell is it?!
**[00:35] Clerk**
Here you go!
**[00:37] Ekoda**
Um... This one!
**[00:44] Ekoda**
I'm gonna settle that
old vendetta... with interest!
**[00:56] Ekoda**
Olé!
**[01:01] Ekoda**
Hello, sorry for the wait—
**[01:04] Ekoda**
S-Stop—
**[01:08] Bird**
D'ya think you could try expressing
joy with your entire body?
**[01:13] Ekoda**
I won't be beaten!
**[01:18] Ekoda**
Everywhere I look...
**[01:23] Ekoda**
...there are tangles of string!
**[01:33] Ekoda**
Okay.
**[01:38] Ekoda**
Excuse me!
**[01:47] Ekoda**
Excuse me—
**[02:01] Ekoda**
Keep away! Keep away!
**[02:12] Sis**
'Sup.
**[02:14] Ekoda**
Sis! Mom!
**[02:21] Ekoda**
Wait, no! Hold off a sec!
**[02:24] Ekoda**
Stop! Stop!
**[02:25] Ekoda**
Stop!
**[02:41] Sis**
Here you go.
**[02:42] Sis**
I got plenty, so you can have one.
**[02:45] Ekoda**
And on that day, Ekoda-chan realized
her familial bonds felt more real to her
**[02:49] Ekoda**
than any kind of fated
connection she might have.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the
director of Episode 7: Misawa Shin,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Doi Mika-san.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Doi Mika
**[04:01] Narrator**
We'll hear how attention to detail
can drag out the production process,
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Doi Mika
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Director
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
**[04:05] Narrator**
and about the core nature
and appeal of Ekoda-chan!
**[04:10] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:16] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[04:18] Kataoka**
We'll start with the introductions.
If you'd like to go first, Director.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
**[04:20] Shin**
Sure.
**[04:21] Shin**
I'm the director of this episode.
My name is Misawa.
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Director
Misawa Shin
**[04:25] Shin**
Yep.
**[04:26] Doi**
Right.
**[04:27] Doi**
I'm playing Ekoda-chan this time
around. My name is Doi Mika.
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
Doi Mika
**[04:31] Doi**
Good work, everyone.
**[04:33] Doi**
Good work today.
***SIGN*** What project did you two first meet on?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[04:34] Kataoka**
Your first project...
**[04:36] Shin**
It was "Sasuga no Sarutobi."
**[04:38] Doi**
Right, it was.
**[04:39] Shin**
That was actually the first
time we'd worked together.
**[04:42] Shin**
Well, personally, y'know... well...
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:48] Shin**
That was my first
official animation credit.
**[04:51] Doi**
Oh, was it really?
**[04:53] Doi**
I see. I remember we recorded
that over near the Tokyo Tower.
**[04:55] Shin**
Right.
**[04:57] Kataoka**
The one near the temple?
**[04:58] Doi**
Right, exactly.
**[04:59] Doi**
A lot of things appeared in that studio.
**[05:02] Shin**
Really?
**[05:03] Doi**
Yeah, all the time.
**[05:04] Kataoka**
Do you remember your impressions
of each other back then?
***SIGN*** Impressions at the time?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[05:07] Shin**
Well, I thought Doi-san was...
**[05:13] Shin**
I mean, the role was a spy, right?
**[05:15] Shin**
A spy who was a high school student.
**[05:17] Doi**
I think on "Sasuga no Sarutobi,"
I actually did three. Three different roles.
**[05:22] Shin**
Oh, you played multiple characters?
**[05:23] Doi**
Right.
**[05:25] Doi**
Yeah.
**[05:26] Shin**
I thought she had an interesting voice.
**[05:29] Doi**
Really?
***SIGN*** Thoughts now you've finished recording?
**[05:32] Shin**
Well... and this is part
of the process every time,
**[05:34] Shin**
but seeing it gradually
take shape is so much fun.
**[05:39] Shin**
That's probably the reason I've been
doing this for as long as I have.
**[05:44] Shin**
And I remember thinking how weird it was
**[05:49] Shin**
that this title was published in a men's
magazine. It's about a woman, after all.
**[05:55] Shin**
And when Kataoka-san asked me
to work on the anime...
**[06:01] Shin**
Well, I... was a bit unsure at
first how exactly to go about it.
**[06:09] Shin**
But after working
through it for a good while,
**[06:14] Shin**
here we are, recording the lines today.
**[06:17] Shin**
That's how it ended up.
**[06:18] Kataoka**
A lot of people are relieved once
the voice-over work is done.
***SIGN*** Something that you found relieving after the recording.
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[06:21] Shin**
Well...
**[06:21] Kataoka**
Like, "That's one big hurdle down."
**[06:24] Shin**
I guess you could say it's one
element that's now set in stone.
**[06:27] Shin**
But I don't feel like I can
just relax now it's done,
**[06:29] Shin**
because there's still plenty to do.
**[06:31] Shin**
This feels like more of a midway point.
**[06:34] Doi**
Lots left to sort out.
**[06:35] Shin**
But getting Doi-san into
the studio was kind of...
**[06:41] Shin**
It feels like it's starting to take shape.
**[06:43] Shin**
Not *literally* sculpting,
**[06:43] Doi**
I see.
**[06:45] Shin**
but like that feeling you get
**[06:47] Shin**
when clay starts looking
like what it's meant to be.
**[06:50] Kataoka**
What's your take on it after coming
out of the recording session, Doi-san?
***SIGN*** Doi-san's thoughts now the V.O. session has wrapped up?
**[06:54] Doi**
I thought it was a lot of fun, really.
**[06:57] Doi**
I mean... When I got the role,
and started working on it,
**[07:02] Doi**
I was a bit like,
"Am I the right person for this?"
**[07:05] Doi**
I was nervous and kinda anxious,
**[07:09] Doi**
but today... it really felt like
I could just do whatever I wanted.
**[07:14] Doi**
And because of that, I'm left thinking:
"That was fun. I want to do more."
**[07:19] Doi**
I mean, especially since the part
I did today was a dream sequence.
**[07:25] Doi**
So it felt a bit like...
I could go wild with it.
**[07:28] Doi**
What I mean is, that's how it felt.
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Was it "anything goes" today?
**[07:30] Doi**
I know the director might have
**[07:31] Shin**
No, you're right, actually.
**[07:32] Doi**
a thing or two to say about that...
**[07:35] Doi**
But it felt to me like,
"Well, it's a dream, yeah?"
**[07:39] Doi**
"So does that mean I can just go
completely over the top with it?"
**[07:46] Kataoka**
Was it different from the image
you had in your head?
**[07:49] Kataoka**
In terms of the direction,
or how the art ended up looking.
***SIGN*** The difference between the impression she got from the manga,
from the script and while doing the recording
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[07:54] Doi**
I think so. I got the impression
she was more laid-back.
**[07:58] Doi**
At least, that's what I took away
from the manga when I read it.
**[08:02] Doi**
But this went at a hell of a pace!
**[08:04] Doi**
The tempo was really something,
**[08:07] Doi**
so it felt like I didn't have time
to worry about much, you know?
**[08:11] Doi**
Instead of having time to think, "Well, maybe
it should be like this," or, "I'll try it like that"...
**[08:17] Doi**
That tends to be what
I think when I read something,
**[08:19] Doi**
but there wasn't any time to consider
those things on a per-scene basis,
**[08:24] Doi**
so instead, it felt like
someone just went: "Go!"
**[08:28] Doi**
"Let's get this done!" was the general mood.
**[08:31] Kataoka**
The part where she cuts the
screen in half with a katana...
***SIGN*** The scene where she cuts the screen in half with a katana
**[08:36] Doi**
Oh, that bit!
**[08:36] Kataoka**
I really enjoyed that bit.
Where did you get the idea?
**[08:40] Shin**
Well, I love the art of the original manga...
**[08:44] Shin**
And I kind of approached it in
a somewhat unrestricted sort of way,
**[08:48] Shin**
but since this is ultimately an adaptation
of something that already exists...
**[08:53] Shin**
I wanted to include the bit where
**[08:55] Shin**
she literally dispatches the verbal abuse.
**[08:55] Doi**
That was so therapeutic!
**[08:57] Doi**
Seeing her just slice through it.
**[08:58] Shin**
Right.
**[08:59] Kataoka**
Oh, I remember that now.
**[09:01] Doi**
I was a little worried I'd overdone it there.
**[09:03] Shin**
Oh, no, it was great.
**[09:04] Doi**
That it might be considered
a little too unfeminine.
**[09:07] Kataoka**
Was there anything
in your performance,
**[09:09] Kataoka**
like what you just mentioned,
that you were concerned about?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Things she was concerned of when portraying Ekoda-chan
**[09:12] Doi**
Well, I had my impressions of her
from reading the manga,
**[09:14] Doi**
and my own take on how I wanted to do things,
**[09:18] Doi**
but normally, I like to keep all that inside...
Sorta just shove it all down, y'know?
**[09:21] Doi**
To not over-think that kind of
thing when I'm actually performing,
**[09:26] Doi**
and instead, focus more on... acting in
the moment, as the situation dictates.
**[09:31] Doi**
So I don't like to worry
about extraneous stuff,
**[09:35] Doi**
or drag a lot of baggage into a read,
**[09:39] Doi**
and instead, just kinda go
out there and get it done.
**[09:42] Kataoka**
And how did that work for you, Director?
**[09:46] Shin**
Oh, I thought it was great. Very much so.
**[09:49] Shin**
Yeah.
**[09:51] Kataoka**
She hit all the right notes.
**[09:51] Shin**
Yeah, she did.
**[09:52] Doi**
I see.
**[09:53] Shin**
Well, with this project, you
only have three minutes to fill...
**[09:59] Shin**
So I thought of it in terms
of cramming in as much as I could.
**[10:03] Shin**
There was honestly a chance
that the emotional tone
**[10:07] Shin**
might shift with every scene change,
**[10:08] Doi**
Right.
**[10:09] Shin**
and I apologize if it was all over the place.
**[10:10] Doi**
Oh, no, I think...
**[10:11] Doi**
In the end, that made it better.
**[10:14] Shin**
That's good to hear.
**[10:14] Doi**
Better for me, specifically. I enjoyed it.
**[10:16] Shin**
Thank you.
**[10:16] Doi**
I'm glad it forced me to just go with it,
**[10:18] Doi**
instead of over-thinking.
**[10:19] Kataoka**
Was it a lot of work getting
the run-time down to three minutes?
***SIGN*** The difficulties of a three-minute run-time
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[10:23] Shin**
I think so. Well...
**[10:25] Shin**
If a ton of effort went
into the animation,
**[10:28] Shin**
I think you could do three
minutes with just a single cut.
**[10:32] Shin**
But that doesn't always work.
What I wanted to convey
**[10:35] Shin**
couldn't be done purely
through dialogue, for instance.
**[10:39] Shin**
When you try to convey
something through film,
**[10:42] Shin**
I personally think there needs to be
a certain amount of visual storytelling.
**[10:47] Shin**
And I think that's part of the reason why
there ended up being so many cuts.
**[10:51] Kataoka**
I think... it might be the most.
***SIGN*** Out of all 12 episodes, this episode contains the most cuts
**[10:52] Shin**
I wouldn't be surprised.
**[10:54] Shin**
A few people who've already seen it
have asked me: "Isn't this a bit much?"
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Doi Mika
***SIGN*** Episode 7's Director
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[11:06] Narrator**
In the first half, we discussed the trials
of the production process and the recording.
**[11:11] Narrator**
In the second half, we'll hear about
Director Misawa's creative focus.
**[11:15] Narrator**
Is his office filled with yarn?
And is his head in the clouds?
**[11:19] Narrator**
Just what *is* going on behind the scenes?
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 7 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[11:26] Kataoka**
When I asked you to work on Ekoda-chan,
***SIGN*** What were your reasons for accepting the job?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
**[11:30] Kataoka**
was there anything in particular that
made you want to take me up on my offer?
**[11:37] Shin**
Well, when I looked at the
11 other directors you'd lined up,
**[11:43] Shin**
all I could really think about was,
"What am I going to do?"
**[11:47] Shin**
But looking beyond that, well...
**[11:51] Shin**
I just focused on what I thought
would be interesting to do.
**[11:56] Shin**
I'm personally... not that much of an artist,
**[12:02] Shin**
so it's not like... I've got some
incredible talent for animation...
**[12:10] Kataoka**
I wouldn't say that at all.
**[12:11] Shin**
But I thought art like
this might be interesting.
**[12:17] Shin**
Plus, this time, I had the dream
concept from the outset.
**[12:22] Shin**
And the threads came into it
later on in the process.
**[12:26] Shin**
So after coming up with a
few different takes on her dream,
**[12:29] Shin**
I started to think I might
not be able to handle it,
**[12:32] Shin**
but that was when the
threads arrived on the scene,
**[12:35] Shin**
and I decided to expand on that.
**[12:38] Shin**
That's when I started thinking I could do it.
**[12:40] Shin**
As for Ekoda-chan's actual story,
**[12:43] Shin**
and I feel a bit guilty for doing
this to Takinami-sensei,
**[12:46] Shin**
but I ended up just
borrowing her characters,
**[12:48] Shin**
and doing the story of
one of Ekoda-chan's dreams.
**[12:53] Shin**
And I wanted it to be a story where
Ekoda-chan kind of panics inside her dream.
**[13:00] Doi**
The way she awakes with a jerk,
**[13:03] Doi**
and then, checks her man's
hand for the red thread
**[13:07] Doi**
to see if it's connected to her own finger,
**[13:11] Doi**
and she reacts like, "Where is it?!"
**[13:14] Doi**
Something about that was really cute.
**[13:18] Doi**
It made me realize how adorable she is.
**[13:21] Shin**
Maa-kun spent the entire episode asleep.
**[13:23] Doi**
That's right. No lines for Maa-kun.
**[13:26] Doi**
But she really does love him, doesn't she?
**[13:29] Doi**
Seriously.
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan loves Maa-kun
**[13:30] Kataoka**
It makes you realize
**[13:31] Kataoka**
that's one way people can fall in love.
**[13:32] Doi**
Right.
**[13:33] Shin**
Yeah.
**[13:34] Kataoka**
That part of her is really sincere.
**[13:37] Kataoka**
Compared to how she's usually
more ambivalent about things.
**[13:40] Kataoka**
But when it comes to Maa-kun,
she feels something really pure.
**[13:47] Kataoka**
It makes me think, "That's the
core of Ekoda-chan's nature!"
**[13:51] Kataoka**
The thing with it being a dream sequence is,
since it's not happening in reality,
**[13:55] Kataoka**
you can kind of do anything, including
with the performance like she mentioned.
**[13:59] Kataoka**
But how exactly did you come up with
the idea of using a dream sequence?
**[14:02] Shin**
To be honest, this is what my dreams are like.
***SIGN*** Why did the dream end up the way it did?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[14:07] Shin**
All my dreams are super realistic,
**[14:10] Shin**
and I have trouble telling if I'm really
experiencing something or dreaming.
**[14:17] Shin**
And even when I can tell that I'm dreaming...
that it's all just a dream... well...
**[14:25] Shin**
I have no idea what's inspired the
things I'm seeing in that dream.
**[14:31] Shin**
So, when you ask me how
this story ended up like this,
**[14:34] Shin**
ultimately... it's because my own
dreams are a bit like what you see here.
**[14:42] Kataoka**
Regarding the ending to Misawa-san's episode,
**[14:45] Doi**
Right.
**[14:46] Kataoka**
it's totally different from
**[14:48] Kataoka**
what the other directors did,
which I think is great.
**[14:51] Kataoka**
How'd you come up with that ending?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** How did he come up with the ending?
**[14:55] Shin**
Well, the strings all are
connected to *something*, right?
**[14:58] Shin**
And then, there's the idea of how,
with the internet, everyone is connected.
**[15:04] Shin**
So there's this element, I think,
**[15:07] Shin**
where people are shocked whenever
they feel like they're disconnected,
**[15:11] Shin**
and even for Ekoda-chan,
who likes her freedom,
**[15:13] Shin**
she still wants to be connected to someone.
**[15:17] Shin**
I think her realizing that
is what leads to that ending.
**[15:22] Kataoka**
The way that her mom and
sister show up at that point...
**[15:30] Doi**
Family, right?
**[15:30] Kataoka**
Right.
**[15:31] Shin**
In the end, they're all you really have.
**[15:36] Kataoka**
I think that...
**[15:38] Kataoka**
Something I've realized is,
her sister has a lot of fans.
**[15:44] Shin**
Yeah. I honestly wanted to draw her some more!
**[15:46] Kataoka**
I see.
***SIGN*** The secrets to
Director Misawa's
methods
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[15:54] Shin**
Well, when it comes to things
I struggled with, or focused on a lot...
***SIGN*** Was there anything
production-wise that gave you issues?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
**[15:59] Shin**
I think since the threads are
a core element of the story...
**[16:04] Shin**
See, with the strings, when we used
to actually photograph animation,
**[16:09] Shin**
I think we would've placed
actual strings in the scene,
**[16:12] Shin**
along with the background
and the animation cels...
**[16:16] Shin**
But since everything's digital
now, there's nothing tactile.
**[16:22] Shin**
So instead, I created a
digital image of the string,
**[16:25] Shin**
and then, along with the
footage, made a composite.
**[16:28] Shin**
And the thing is...
**[16:29] Shin**
I had to change how it was arranged
for every cut, or it wouldn't have worked.
**[16:33] Shin**
It's not like I could use one
sample and work with just that.
**[16:38] Shin**
So I had to keep messing with it
and altering it for each scene change.
**[16:44] Kataoka**
And the thing about Misawa-san is,
he handles materials like that personally.
**[16:48] Doi**
Right.
***SIGN*** Director Misawa's personal approach
to adding in mixed media material
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[16:49] Kataoka**
So he then creates the digital version,
**[16:51] Kataoka**
and composites it into
the digital footage....
**[16:53] Kataoka**
Inserting it into the actual
animation, in other words.
**[16:56] Kataoka**
And he does all of that by himself.
**[16:58] Doi**
Wow. By himself?
**[17:00] Kataoka**
That's something about
Misawa-san's approach to animation...
**[17:04] Kataoka**
When he does things the hard way, he takes
it upon himself to do the work needed.
**[17:09] Shin**
I guess so.
**[17:10] Shin**
I mean, that's a habit
I've had since the cel days.
**[17:13] Shin**
If I had an elaborate, multi-layered kimono,
**[17:15] Doi**
Right.
**[17:16] Shin**
I'd buy decorative paper and lay it out.
**[17:18] Doi**
Twelve separate pieces...
**[17:18] Shin**
And that'd put a lot of space
**[17:20] Shin**
between the cel and the background.
**[17:21] Doi**
Right.
**[17:22] Shin**
So I'd get calls from the filming
department, saying, "This isn't working."
**[17:26] Shin**
But even with people
getting mad at me like that,
**[17:29] Shin**
that's the kind of director I became.
**[17:30] Doi**
In spite of it all!
**[17:31] Kataoka**
The scene where she's drowning in
the sea, and her head pops back up...
**[17:36] Shin**
Right.
**[17:37] Kataoka**
It's a sea of yarn.
**[17:38] Shin**
Right. I'm going to work on
the effect for ripples next.
**[17:41] Kataoka**
Ripples in the string?
**[17:42] Shin**
Yeah.
**[17:43] Kataoka**
Like waves.
**[17:44] Shin**
It kind of makes me think that
actually setting it up analog style
**[17:49] Shin**
would've been less work all around.
**[17:51] Kataoka**
Really?
**[17:52] Kataoka**
I think you'd end up
drowning in yarn yourself.
**[17:55] Doi**
You said earlier
**[17:56] Doi**
your house was filled with yarn...
**[17:57] Shin**
Right.
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Director Misawa's office is full of yarn
**[17:58] Shin**
Well, less my house, more my office.
**[18:00] Shin**
I've got a ton of yarn
everywhere at the moment.
**[18:04] Shin**
I honestly don't think I've ever interacted
with yarn quite so much before,
**[18:09] Shin**
and it turns out, different types
are more distinct than you'd think.
**[18:12] Shin**
Sometimes, certain types refuse to curve the
way you want them to, even if you pin them down,
**[18:17] Shin**
and I got the feeling that yarn
really has a mind of its own.
**[18:23] Shin**
So I was thinking, "Please curve the right way!"
while I was setting up all the strands.
**[18:28] Shin**
One thing I'm having trouble
with right now are the clouds.
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** The problems he's had depicting clouds
**[18:33] Shin**
I don't like to spend a lot of money,
**[18:36] Shin**
so I went to a local futon store...
**[18:36] Doi**
Right.
**[18:38] Doi**
Right.
**[18:40] Doi**
For cotton?
**[18:41] Shin**
I'd ask them, "What do you think of this?"
And I get the feeling the staff there...
**[18:45] Shin**
think I work in theater or something.
**[18:48] Shin**
I actually told them I work in anime,
**[18:49] Shin**
but conversations we have
just end up in theater talk.
**[18:52] Shin**
So they made various recommendations
for what would work as clouds,
**[18:58] Shin**
but I'm having a bit of trouble
trying to make them look right.
**[19:03] Shin**
Whenever I try to use a scanner,
the material ends up
**[19:06] Shin**
getting squished and looking all wrong.
**[19:07] Doi**
That makes sense.
**[19:09] Doi**
It wouldn't have the right volume.
**[19:09] Shin**
It basically just gets flattened.
**[19:11] Shin**
But when I take pictures with a camera,
it just looks like a piece of cotton.
**[19:15] Shin**
I'm having trouble nailing down
**[19:17] Shin**
the exact details at the moment.
**[19:19] Doi**
I like that.
**[19:20] Doi**
I like how you're still very particular,
so you're searching for a solution.
**[19:24] Shin**
I'm not sure if it's actually a good idea...
**[19:25] Doi**
Something to look forward to...
**[19:27] Kataoka**
I've worked with Director Misawa
**[19:27] Doi**
To see how it turns out.
**[19:30] Kataoka**
a few times in the past,
**[19:32] Kataoka**
and his animation always has
this handcrafted feel to it.
**[19:36] Kataoka**
And I'm all for that, because I feel
it gives the work a kind of warmth.
***SIGN*** The depths of Ekoda-chan
as a character
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[19:45] Doi**
Well, at first, it struck me how she'd
just come out and say all these things...
***SIGN*** Do you have anything in common with Ekoda-chan?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
**[19:54] Doi**
I thought she was really sharp
with all these retorts.
**[19:57] Kataoka**
Right.
**[19:57] Doi**
But when I read a bit more,
I realized she's not actually saying them.
**[20:02] Doi**
She's just thinking them.
**[20:04] Doi**
And I think that, really, all women...
**[20:07] Doi**
And to be honest, all men do it, too...
**[20:11] Doi**
The difference between the choice of
words you use when talking to someone,
**[20:15] Doi**
and what's actually going through
your head is pronounced.
**[20:18] Doi**
Like, she might be thinking
something pretty inflammatory,
**[20:22] Doi**
and when I have those moments, too,
**[20:23] Doi**
it makes me realize that me and
Ekoda-chan aren't so different, after all.
**[20:30] Doi**
I mean, you always hear about
women reading it and going:
**[20:33] Doi**
"Oh, I'm definitely like this!"
in regards to certain parts.
**[20:37] Doi**
That's how it really felt.
**[20:39] Kataoka**
Misawa-san.
**[20:40] Shin**
Well...
**[20:42] Shin**
I definitely get the desire
to make snarky comments,
**[20:48] Shin**
so I always find it most interesting when
she does actually come out and say them.
**[20:53] Kataoka**
If you could sum up Ekoda
or her appeal in a few words...
**[20:57] Kataoka**
Keeping it short, how would you describe her?
**[20:59] Doi**
I think that, with all her cute traits,
***SIGN*** How would you sum up Ekoda-chan?
***SIGN*** Misawa
Shin
**[21:03] Doi**
she's kind of got this
old-fashioned feel to her.
**[21:08] Doi**
That's how she seems to me.
**[21:11] Shin**
To sum her up... I guess
she lives according to her whims?
**[21:18] Shin**
I mean... she might lie to herself,
in one way or another,
**[21:24] Shin**
but when she does, it's for the
sake of pursuing what she wants,
**[21:28] Shin**
so I really get the feeling that
she's just living life the way she wants to.
**[21:33] Shin**
Something Doi-san said...
**[21:34] Shin**
about how we think up snappy
remarks we don't say out loud.
**[21:37] Doi**
I know I do!
**[21:39] Shin**
Whether it's on the train, or wherever...
**[21:43] Shin**
When there are things that strike you as odd...
I think we all have those thoughts.
**[21:47] Shin**
So I think, in the case of Ekoda-chan,
**[21:49] Shin**
her saying those things
is an expression of that.
**[21:52] Shin**
I think she might be a way of
Yukari-sensei sharing how she feels.
**[22:00] Doi**
That makes sense.
**[22:01] Kataoka**
Would you go out with her?
**[22:03] Shin**
Oh, if she'd have me, then sure. Of course.
**[22:06] Kataoka**
That's a yes.
**[22:07] Shin**
Yeah.
**[22:08] Narrator**
That's it for today's discussion.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:12] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:15] Narrator**
we have the director of Episode 8,
who has a very particular style,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:19] Narrator**
and someone we seem to have met before?
**[22:21] Narrator**
A voice actress who looks
a bit like Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:23] Narrator**
discusses how she seems to the world.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:28] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Boa
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Pole
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E8
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***SIGN*** Find everything You Need in the Ginza Shopping District
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
**[00:03] Ladies**
What? She got a divorce?
***SIGN*** Nogata
**[00:05] M**
What? Seriously?
**[00:07] Guys**
You didn't know?
**[00:09] Guys**
I figured, seeing as how I told Ekoda-san,
**[00:13] Guys**
she woulda told you that already, M-san.
**[00:15] M**
Nope...
**[00:17] Guys**
M-senpai, what line of work is Ekoda-san in?
**[00:21] M**
Work?
**[00:23] Guys**
The other day, I called her up early,
**[00:25] Guys**
and she answered with
"Thank you for your phone call!"
**[00:28] M**
She's a call handler
**[00:29] M**
at some life insurance firm, so she was probably
half asleep and thought she was at work.
**[00:33] Guys**
Huh?
**[00:34] Guys**
I heard she wiggles her butt
onstage at a pub over in Shinjuku.
**[00:38] Guys**
Huh? Isn't it a Philippine pub?
**[00:41] Guys**
She's not even Filipina!
**[00:43] Guys**
I thought she worked at a Chinese
restaurant in this part of town.
**[00:46] Guys**
Really? I worked with her on a
short-term gig a while ago, though.
**[00:50] Guys**
So what exactly *does* Ekoda do?
**[00:54] M**
What are you asking *me* for?
**[00:56] M**
I'm not her babysitter.
**[01:03] Guys**
Still... Ekoda-san's pretty amazing.
**[01:06] Ladies**
Right? I wish I could be like her.
***SIGN*** You have five missed calls
**[01:09] Guys**
Maybe she's a robot?
**[01:11] Guys**
Ekoda-01, Ekoda-02, Ekoda Mass
Production Model, Ekoda Hybrid!
**[01:16] Guys**
Hey, you get better mileage outta that one!
***SIGN*** Ekoda
***SIGN*** Ekoda
***SIGN*** Ekoda
***SIGN*** Ekoda
***SIGN*** Ekoda
**[01:21] Lady**
Sorry I'm late!
**[01:23] Guys**
We've been waiting for you!
**[01:25] Guys**
Come on in!
**[01:27] Lady**
Y'know, I saw Ekoda-chan at the supermarket.
**[01:32] Lady**
She was buying some really
expensive-looking beef.
**[01:37] Lady**
She seemed really
excited about something!
**[01:39] Guy**
Why didn't she show today, anyway?
**[01:42] Guy**
I asked M-san to let her know...
**[01:49] M**
Sorry. I'm calling it a night.
**[01:52] M**
Later.
**[01:58] Guys**
Come join us.
**[02:00] Guys**
Park your butt already.
**[02:01] Lady**
Okay!
**[02:04] M**
I'm coming in.
**[02:11] M**
You cooked for him and he canceled
at the last second again, huh?
**[02:14] Ekoda**
Don't spell it out like that!
**[02:16] Ekoda**
Sorry about the other day...
**[02:19] M**
The whole "You won't get anywhere if you keep
nurturing these unrequited crushes" thing?
**[02:24] M**
It's fine. After all, it's true.
**[02:27] M**
There was a drinking party tonight,
**[02:29] M**
and I was supposed to invite you, but I didn't.
**[02:34] Ekoda**
What the hell?!
**[02:35] Ekoda**
Why do you have to get
so moody about this stuff?!
**[02:38] M**
Maybe I wouldn't if you stopped
one-ringing me to get my attention!
**[02:45] Ekoda**
I bet no one interesting showed up, anyway.
**[02:48] M**
Yup. Not an interesting person in sight.
**[02:52] Ekoda**
Okay! Time for another helping!
**[02:55] Ekoda**
I love meat.
**[02:57] Ekoda**
It never cancels on you, or badmouths you.
**[03:00] Ekoda**
The fact that we can't marry meat shows
just how behind the times this country is.
**[03:04] M**
You'll put on weight.
**[03:05] Ekoda**
I'll just get back to normal again later.
**[03:08] Ekoda**
As many times as I need to.
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 8: Kojima Masayuki,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki
**[04:00] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Ise Mariya.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ise Mariya
**[04:02] Narrator**
On top of getting behind-the-scenes
tales from the director,
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ise Mariya
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Director
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki
**[04:05] Narrator**
we'll also hear about a surprising clash!
**[04:07] Narrator**
Get ready for a candid story.
**[04:10] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:16] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
**[04:23] Kataoka**
What are your thoughts?
***SIGN*** Your thoughts now the recording is over
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Director
Kojima Masayuki
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
Ise Mariya
**[04:25] Kojima**
Well, it was a short project,
**[04:29] Kojima**
but we had a recording session
with a good number of voices.
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:36] Kojima**
And I think the voice work
turned out perfect.
**[04:39] Ise**
Really?
**[04:40] Ise**
Well, I think, first of all, I'm relieved
it turned out as well as it did.
**[04:45] Ise**
Before the recording,
I read through the manga,
**[04:52] Ise**
and viewed through the lens of social norms,
Ekoda-chan's way of life seems modern,
**[05:00] Ise**
but the work itself has
been around for quite a while,
**[05:04] Ise**
so I guess that means it portrays some
ubiquitous feminine experience?
**[05:09] Ise**
Like, it makes you think: "Women like
this must exist in every time period."
**[05:12] Ise**
And the thought of me portraying
Ekoda-chan, giving her a voice...
**[05:18] Ise**
I felt a bit of pressure over how
exactly I should go about voicing her,
**[05:24] Ise**
so once we were done, I felt
a real sense of relief that it was all over.
**[05:29] Ise**
Well, when I was reading the manga,
***SIGN*** How Ekoda-chan talks
**[05:33] Ise**
I thought she'd probably have
a sorta flat way of talking.
**[05:37] Ise**
She has a wide range of emotions,
**[05:39] Ise**
but when she's expressing herself,
there aren't a lot of wild swings.
**[05:42] Ise**
And I thought about how
she's not particularly intense.
**[05:45] Ise**
I mean, she's at home and naked a lot.
**[05:49] Ise**
When she's talking to herself,
her monologues can get pretty wild,
**[05:53] Ise**
but when she's actually speaking to people,
**[05:56] Ise**
I got the feeling she'd
sound more dispassionate.
**[06:00] Ise**
But during the recording,
Yamada-san, the audio director,
**[06:03] Ise**
said, "I'm happy for you to be
as expressive as you want."
**[06:10] Ise**
So she ended up sounding
a lot like Ise Mariya.
**[06:14] Ise**
At least, that's how I think it ended up.
**[06:16] Ise**
Well... Personally I...
***SIGN*** Similarities to Ekoda-chan!?
**[06:19] Ise**
I mean, I can't see too many
similarities between us.
**[06:23] Ise**
At least, that's how it seems to me.
**[06:27] Ise**
But Kataoka-san told me: "Y'know,
when I was reading Ekoda-chan,
**[06:31] Ise**
a lot of the things she does
reminded me of you."
**[06:35] Ise**
And I was sort of pleased about that,
but it was... a complicated feeling.
**[06:39] Ise**
Well, I think our strengths
might be similar, yeah.
**[06:43] Ise**
If that's what you meant, I'm glad to hear it.
**[06:45] Ise**
What's so funny, Director Kojima?
**[06:47] Ise**
I was just thinking...
**[06:48] Kojima**
He knows you pretty well.
**[06:49] Ise**
Seriously?
***SIGN*** The character of Ekoda-chan
**[06:52] Ise**
Well, we only did the one episode,
so looking at it in isolation...
**[06:58] Ise**
The episode kind of builds up
your curiosity about Ekoda-chan,
**[07:02] Ise**
and just as your curiosity
peaks, the episode ends.
**[07:07] Ise**
And it underscores how she doesn't
care what other people think of her.
**[07:12] Ise**
I personally thought the strength of
character you'd need to live like that
**[07:18] Ise**
really comes through in her final line.
**[07:21] Ise**
"I'll just get back to normal again later.
As many times as I need to."
**[07:24] Ise**
I thought that part was really wonderful.
**[07:27] Ise**
And I believed it really got across
her sort of... What would you call it?
**[07:32] Ise**
Her clear outlook, or I guess, not having
baggage coloring her perspective.
**[07:36] Ise**
And I wanted that to come
through in the performance.
**[07:39] Ise**
I think this vignette happens right
after she's been rebuffed romantically,
**[07:44] Ise**
and the way she compares
relationships to meat...
**[07:47] Ise**
About how nice it is, and
how it doesn't badmouth her...
**[07:50] Ise**
And how Japan is behind the times
for not letting people marry meat.
**[07:54] Ise**
I thought that was something that hinged
on getting that last line just right, as well.
**[07:59] Ise**
To get across that sentiment of how it
doesn't matter how many men leave her,
**[08:03] Ise**
she can always find someone new.
**[08:05] Ise**
That shows real mental strength.
**[08:09] Kataoka**
It sounds like you're comparing
**[08:10] Kataoka**
her reaction with your own.
**[08:10] Ise**
Yes, I think so.
**[08:12] Ise**
Well, y'know... there's always another
romance right around the corner, right?
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 8 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** The reasons behind choosing this particular storyline
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
**[08:23] Kataoka**
Was there any particular reason
you chose this kind of story?
**[08:26] Kojima**
Any particular reason?
**[08:28] Kojima**
Well... it's got a lot of
different aspects to it,
**[08:32] Kojima**
and I thought it'd help get across
some of the character's dynamism.
**[08:35] Kojima**
In terms of animation, it's kind
of, like... How should I put it?
**[08:39] Kojima**
I thought I could take it in a direction
which would have a lot of impact.
**[08:42] Kojima**
And I get the feeling people
expect me to go in that direction.
**[08:47] Kojima**
So when it came to what I wanted to do...
**[08:51] Kojima**
There's a special kind of friendship, I guess
you'd call it, that can exist between two women.
**[08:56] Kojima**
That was the kind of thing
I wanted to depict.
**[09:00] Kojima**
And that's why I ended up going for this.
**[09:03] Ise**
There's the way that Ekoda-chan and M
have a fight before the story even starts,
***SIGN*** The relationship that exists between our duo
and the characteristics of Director Kojima's works
**[09:09] Ise**
so they go their separate ways for a bit,
**[09:12] Ise**
but then, M comes back,
and the two of them make up.
**[09:18] Ise**
I thought: "That's just what
I'd expect from Director Kojima."
**[09:21] Ise**
Sorta depicting the bond
they share as friends.
**[09:26] Ise**
The fact that you focused
on that impressed me.
**[09:30] Kojima**
Well, when I accepted
the offer to work on this,
**[09:34] Kojima**
some of the things I've worked
on before have been kind of...
**[09:38] Kojima**
So I wanted to work on something
outside of the genres I'm known for,
**[09:43] Kojima**
but ultimately, it ended up being
a lot like my other shows.
**[09:48] Ise**
Even with a short run-time,
it was pretty dramatic.
***SIGN*** An episode about how Ekoda-chan is viewed by third parties
**[09:52] Ise**
You know how, a lot of the time,
**[09:54] Ise**
the strip begins with
Ekoda-chan greeting the reader?
**[09:58] Ise**
So, mentally, I was expecting that to be
the first line when I opened the script,
**[10:03] Ise**
and then, I was like, "Huh?
She barely has any lines!"
**[10:06] Ise**
So that was a shock, but also,
a really creative approach.
**[10:10] Ise**
Although, I was kinda like,
"Is she ever gonna say anything?"
**[10:13] Ise**
But I think, in terms of what you were
trying to get across in the episode,
**[10:19] Ise**
instead of Ekoda-chan standing
center stage as the protagonist,
**[10:23] Ise**
it's an examination of her
relationships with other people.
**[10:26] Ise**
It shows how the people
around Ekoda-chan view her.
**[10:31] Ise**
And I thought that was interesting,
and tried to lean into that take on her.
**[10:37] Ise**
In the end, I didn't think
I needed any more lines.
**[10:40] Kojima**
I kinda expected you to want more.
**[10:43] Kojima**
But, you know, what she says is right.
**[10:46] Kojima**
The whole motif of "How other
people see Ekoda-chan..."
**[10:50] Kojima**
I thought that'd be a good thing to focus on.
***SIGN*** Ise-san and Director Kojima's past collaborations
**[10:54] Kataoka**
How did the two of you meet, anyway?
**[10:56] Kojima**
When *was* our first meeting?
**[10:58] Ise**
I think we first met on "Bottom Biting Bug."
**[11:00] Kojima**
Oh, that's right.
**[11:02] Kataoka**
"Bottom Biting Bug"?
**[11:02] Ise**
Yes, we worked together on a show
called "Bottom Biting Bug,"
**[11:07] Ise**
and after that came "Made in Abyss,"
where we interacted with each other a lot.
**[11:15] Ise**
I think that just about covers it.
**[11:18] Ise**
There were some moments on that last one
which proved to be pretty difficult,
***SIGN*** Ise-san's opinion of Director Kojima's talent
**[11:22] Ise**
and those scenes were the ones
lifted wholesale from the manga
**[11:27] Ise**
in a way that almost hurt to watch,
**[11:31] Ise**
but the question came up about exactly how
Director Kojima would depict those scenes.
**[11:38] Ise**
That was something the audio director,
Yamada-san, asked at the time.
**[11:42] Ise**
And seeing the end result made me
trust Director Kojima's judgment.
**[11:47] Ise**
He was really good at depicting the growth
and friendship of those children.
**[11:54] Ise**
That was the impression I came away with.
**[11:56] Kojima**
Really?
**[11:58] Kojima**
Well, and I think this applies
to both Ekoda-chan and Abyss,
***SIGN*** Director Kojima on playing to his strengths
**[12:03] Kojima**
I sort of feel like... you have
to play to your strengths.
**[12:07] Kojima**
To make something you'll be satisfied with,
**[12:10] Kojima**
it means working with...
what you have, really.
**[12:16] Kojima**
And it's not like I intended
to do something ultra-personal.
**[12:21] Kojima**
I was trying to do it in the
style of the source material.
**[12:23] Ise**
You were?
**[12:25] Kojima**
I wanted to keep the flavor
of the manga and then,
**[12:31] Kojima**
apply the sort of creative process
that animation benefits from.
**[12:35] Kojima**
I thought that's what'd work best.
***SIGN*** On actually visiting the Ekoda neighborhood
as part of their research
**[12:40] Kojima**
Well, we actually visited the pub that shows
up in the episode as part of our research.
**[12:47] Kojima**
It's called Nogata.
**[12:48] Kataoka**
Ah, Nogata!
**[12:49] Kojima**
Right.
**[12:50] Ise**
Nogata...
**[12:51] Kataoka**
You should come with us next time, Ise-san.
**[12:53] Ise**
Sure.
**[12:54] Ise**
Sounds good. Get some drinks.
**[12:56] Kojima**
I wasn't actually drinking,
but the food was delicious.
**[13:01] Ise**
That sounds nice. I'd love to go.
**[13:04] Kojima**
I think that, unless I have a good
grasp of the scene in my head,
**[13:10] Kojima**
I get really anxious about not being
able to fill in the details very well.
**[13:15] Kojima**
So I figured, since this was a real location,
**[13:22] Kojima**
I'd go check it out, take
some pictures for reference,
**[13:27] Kojima**
and make sure it looked right.
***SIGN*** Subtle considerations in the line reads and the depiction
**[13:34] Ise**
Something that stood out
to me that the director did
**[13:39] Ise**
that I thought was especially thoughtful...
**[13:42] Ise**
It was during the scene in the pub,
which had some ad-libbing...
**[13:48] Ise**
And one of the men asks,
"What line of work is Ekoda-chan in?"
**[13:52] Ise**
"Oh, she works at a pub
that does shows in Shinjuku."
**[13:56] Ise**
And then, after that, there's
a line in the script that says:
**[13:59] Ise**
"Isn't it a Philippine pub?"
**[14:02] Ise**
And the first take the guy did of it...
**[14:06] Ise**
It had a bit of an "Oh? Isn't it
a *Philippine* pub?" feel to it.
**[14:09] Ise**
The portrayal felt a little snarky.
**[14:15] Ise**
But then, Director Kojima, or maybe
it was the audio director, Yamada-san,
**[14:19] Ise**
said it was probably better to
just ask the question normally,
**[14:22] Ise**
like it was a genuine case of not knowing.
**[14:24] Ise**
That was the direction
that was given on that line.
**[14:29] Ise**
And I thought, "Wow," and was
really impressed by that reaction.
**[14:32] Ise**
How it showed that Ekoda-chan,
and women like her,
**[14:36] Ise**
may have all kinds of
part-time jobs or careers,
**[14:38] Ise**
but since they're working hard
to make their way through life,
**[14:45] Ise**
they don't deserve mockery. Their choices
should be accepted for what they are.
**[14:50] Ise**
And the fact that such close attention was
paid to the performance to show that
**[14:54] Ise**
struck me as a really admirable sentiment.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Ise Mariya
***SIGN*** Episode 8's Director
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[15:07] Narrator**
Ise-san is apparently
just like Ekoda-chan,
**[15:09] Narrator**
and Director Kojima has
a style he likes to stick to.
**[15:13] Narrator**
In the second half, we'll dig deeper into
the character of Ekoda-chan with these two.
**[15:18] Narrator**
And we'll hear a surprising story
of Ise-san getting into a huge fight!
***SIGN*** The Director x The VA
& Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan is 24
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
**[15:28] Ise**
Ekoda-chan's supposed to be 24 in the story,
**[15:35] Ise**
but she seems a lot more
worldly and a lot older to me.
**[15:40] Ise**
But she also gives off this youthful air.
**[15:43] Ise**
And I think that might be because Ekoda-chan
herself isn't too concerned about age.
**[15:49] Ise**
It's just part of what gives her such
a fiercely independent, freewheeling life.
**[15:56] Ise**
I personally don't let age
trip me up much, either.
**[16:02] Ise**
It's more about what my goal is
from one moment to the next.
**[16:07] Ise**
I think I'm the kind of person who
chooses her path based on that.
**[16:11] Ise**
So I think that's one thing...
**[16:13] Ise**
Actually, now, after this discussion,
**[16:16] Ise**
I'm starting to realize we
*do* have a lot in common.
***SIGN*** Director Kojima at 24
**[16:19] Kojima**
Well, of course, Ekoda-chan is 24,
**[16:25] Kojima**
but I think there's a pretty big difference
between men and women at that age.
**[16:29] Kojima**
I get the feeling,
psychologically speaking,
**[16:32] Kojima**
a woman would be more mature at 24.
**[16:38] Kojima**
I think when I was 24,
**[16:41] Kojima**
I'd been in animation for about three years.
**[16:45] Kojima**
I mostly remember it as a period
of working all-nighters, though.
**[16:53] Kojima**
At my current age, I totally
understand Ekoda-chan's charm,
**[16:58] Kojima**
but I think when I was 24, I wouldn't
have wanted to come within a meter of her.
***SIGN*** Being friends with Ekoda-chan
**[17:04] Ise**
Good question.
**[17:05] Ise**
I think if I had a friend, or a best
friend, who was just like Ekoda-chan...
**[17:15] Ise**
I'd be really worried about her!
**[17:19] Ise**
But y'know, if you accept that that's
just who she is, just part of her nature,
**[17:24] Ise**
then, I think it'd involve meeting
up every now and then to catch up,
**[17:28] Ise**
and there'd be a lot of, "So that's what's going
on with Ekoda-chan. She never changes."
**[17:32] Ise**
I think I'd really look forward to
hearing what's going on in her life.
**[17:37] Ise**
I've never had many fights
with my best friends...
**[17:42] Ise**
Honestly, beyond middle school,
not many fights, period.
**[17:46] Ise**
Though, when I was in high school,
**[17:47] Ise**
I ended up bickering with someone
because of a misunderstanding.
***SIGN*** Ise-san's voice actress friend, Han Megumi-san
**[17:51] Ise**
In this episode, Han Megumi-chan,
who plays Friend M,
**[17:59] Ise**
she and I are really... We've got a relationship
kind of like Ekoda-chan and Friend M.
**[18:05] Ise**
We're sort of voice-acting war buddies.
**[18:10] Ise**
So when I heard she'd been
cast in this, I was really happy.
**[18:14] Ise**
Now, I was already an adult when I met her,
**[18:19] Ise**
but there was this one time
when we did have a fight.
**[18:22] Ise**
It was during "Hunter x Hunter"...
***SIGN*** A fight with her war buddy, Han Megumi!?
**[18:24] Kataoka**
The Gon and Killua duo?
**[18:25] Ise**
That's us. We were playing
Gon and Killua at the time,
**[18:28] Ise**
and we got into a serious
fight at the studio...
**[18:33] Ise**
In the lobby.
**[18:35] Ise**
And it ended up being really funny...
**[18:38] Ise**
Because as we were arguing,
we started sounding like our roles.
**[18:44] Ise**
She sounded like Gon,
and I sounded like Killua,
**[18:46] Ise**
going "Screw you, it only ended up
like that because you did this!"
**[18:49] Ise**
We both started to sound like little boys!
**[18:52] Ise**
And when I realized that,
I was really shocked,
**[18:56] Ise**
because... the boundary where
the role ends and you begin...
**[19:00] Ise**
That had blurred for both of us.
**[19:03] Ise**
The roles were starting
to project themselves onto us.
**[19:08] Ise**
I'd never experienced anything like it.
**[19:09] Kataoka**
That sounds amazing. I wish I'd been there.
**[19:12] Kojima**
Seriously.
**[19:14] Ise**
Yeah.
**[19:14] Kojima**
I kind of wonder how many people
like her are left in the world.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's appeal
**[19:23] Kojima**
That was something I thought
when I read the manga, as well.
**[19:28] Kojima**
I think... in modern times...
**[19:31] Kojima**
And it's not just women;
this applies to men, too...
**[19:36] Kojima**
But the kind of vitality she has...
**[19:40] Kojima**
Being able to maintain that is
something I personally wish I could do.
**[19:44] Kojima**
And I wanted to convey the
energy she has to the viewers.
**[19:51] Kojima**
So I hope that came across.
**[19:56] Kojima**
The vitality and energy she brings
**[20:00] Kojima**
is really wonderful.
**[20:01] Ise**
Right.
**[20:02] Kojima**
And it strikes me that those two things
**[20:06] Kojima**
are the kind of traits you don't
find in a lot of women anymore.
**[20:13] Kojima**
And I hope it maybe
inspires people who see this
**[20:17] Kojima**
to display that kind of
energy in their lives, too.
**[20:22] Ise**
Right.
***SIGN*** "Not being normal" isn't a bad thing
**[20:24] Kojima**
The question of "What's
wrong with not being normal?"
**[20:30] Kojima**
That was something I wanted
to get across with this, too,
**[20:37] Kojima**
but I think maybe three minutes
wasn't enough to really deliver on that.
**[20:41] Kojima**
And it was hard getting it across
even to the degree we did.
**[20:47] Kojima**
But the idea that there's nothing
wrong with not being "normal"...
**[20:50] Kojima**
On some level, I tell that
to myself, as well, but...
**[20:54] Kojima**
But I think that's part of Ekoda-chan's power,
**[20:56] Kojima**
and I hope that people
watching, especially women,
**[21:04] Kojima**
get that part of the message
that's instilled in there.
***SIGN*** A message for viewers
**[21:09] Ise**
I think that the way
Ekoda-chan lives her life...
**[21:14] Ise**
Well, I think it's kind of admirable. Like...
**[21:20] Ise**
in the way she doesn't let people
around her influence her too much.
**[21:23] Ise**
And the way she makes decisions
based on her own values,
**[21:29] Ise**
and I think that's something I find
really impressive as a fellow woman,
**[21:33] Ise**
but I honestly think
it's something, gender aside,
**[21:39] Ise**
more people should try to aspire to.
**[21:43] Ise**
And y'know, I think there are probably
still a lot of secret Ekoda-chans out there.
**[21:50] Ise**
And that they're... I dunno, just lurking...
**[21:52] Ise**
and can be found in all kinds of places.
**[21:57] Kataoka**
I know one who isn't hiding.
**[21:58] Ise**
I guess I'm not!
**[21:59] Ise**
Yeah, I'm definitely not hiding.
**[22:03] Ise**
So I'm going to continue down
the Ekoda-chan highway,
**[22:06] Ise**
in terms of how I want to live.
**[22:10] Narrator**
That's it for today's discussion.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:14] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
a replacement steps in
for a missing director?!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:20] Narrator**
Looks like we might be relying
on Ekoda-chan's actress next week!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:25] Narrator**
Will the round table discussion work out?
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:28] Narrator**
Tune in to find out!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Contours
***SIGN*** Hair
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E9
Source: [Crunchyroll](https://www.crunchyroll.com/watch/GRVD70WXR/untitled)
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**[00:05] Ekoda**
Thank you for calling. This is the Phoenix
Life Insurance customer service center.
**[00:09] Customer**
*Um... My husband passed away...*
**[00:11] Ekoda**
My condolences. This must
be a difficult time for you.
**[00:15] Ekoda**
*Great.* More *death...*
**[00:15] Ekoda**
May I ask the name on the
policy or the customer number?
**[00:18] Customer**
*It's Idenoguchi Shuhei.*
**[00:20] Ekoda**
Idenoguchi Shuhei-sama, correct?
**[00:24] Kouhai**
Looks like you hit the
jackpot today, sis!
**[00:27] Ekoda**
Four out of the five claims
I've processed have been suicides.
**[00:29] Ekoda**
And don't call me "sis."
**[00:31] Kouhai**
But that's what you are, *sis*!
**[00:33] Kouhai**
Wow, I go for a quick break and
come back to find 40 callers waiting?
**[00:37] Kouhai**
I am now entering "operations mode"!
**[00:39] Kouhai**
Operations, switching on!
**[00:41] Kouhai**
Thank you for calling.
**[00:43] Ekoda**
*Looks like someone's having fun.*
**[00:43] Kouhai**
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
**[00:46] Ekoda**
* I sit here day after day, in the same seat,*
* with the same scripted responses...*
**[00:49] Co-worker**
Thank you for your call.
**[00:50] Ekoda**
*Wow, look at that beautiful sunset.*
**[00:53] Ekoda**
*And I'm the only one who's noticed it.*
**[00:56] Ekoda**
*There's something soothing about that...*
**[00:58] Kouhai**
Hey, sis!
**[01:00] Boss**
I don't see hands moving.
**[01:03] Ekoda**
I guess I must've spaced out for a sec...
**[01:05] Boss**
And while you space out, the calls stack up.
**[01:08] Ekoda**
Sorry about that.
**[01:10] Kouhai**
Y'know... I heard she's got a toyboy.
**[01:13] Ekoda**
I heard she's got a bunch of toyboys.
**[01:16] Coworker**
Wait, what? A bunch?
**[01:18] Ekoda**
*I threw in a few extra.*
**[01:20] Customer**
* Yeah, the last person I talked to*
* was terrible. Can I speak to a manager?*
**[01:22] Ekoda**
*Great. I've got a whiner.*
**[01:24] Ekoda**
One moment, please.
**[01:26] Ekoda**
And the signal is...
***SIGN*** Smoke
& mirrors
**[01:31] Ekoda**
My supervisor's currently away from
his desk, but I can take your call.
**[01:35] Customer**
* Fine. Just put me on with that*
* Kato person I was talking to earlier.*
**[01:35] Ekoda**
*Excuse #1.*
**[01:37] Ekoda**
We have several Katos here.
**[01:39] Ekoda**
I can find out who you were speaking to
if you give me your name and policy number.
**[01:44] Customer**
*What a pain in the ass.*
**[01:46] Ekoda**
*Stormy weather all around, huh?*
**[01:48] Customer**
*06294028461, Yamada Yoko.*
**[01:53] Customer**
*Now, put Kato on.*
**[01:54] Ekoda**
I'm terribly sorry, ma'am...
**[01:56] Ekoda**
The Kato in question is
currently on another call.
**[01:59] Yamada**
*All right, fine!*
**[01:59] Ekoda**
*Excuse #2.*
**[02:01] Ekoda**
Oh, she's gone.
**[02:03] Ekoda**
And so's the power?
**[02:05] Boss**
It's just a blackout!
**[02:05] Kouhai**
Game over, man!
**[02:06] Boss**
Backup power should kick in any second!
**[02:08] Boss**
Everyone, remain calm!
**[02:08] Ekoda**
*Ah, here we go.*
**[02:09] Boss**
Please don't leave your desks!
**[02:10] Ekoda**
*The lights are taking their time, though.*
**[02:15] Kouhai**
Selecting optimal course of action:
conserve energy for moment of reactivation.
**[02:21] Ekoda**
*More than 50 callers waiting...*
**[02:23] Ekoda**
* Is it even worth bothering,*
* in the circumstances?*
**[02:26] Boss**
Please get back to work!
**[02:30] Coworker**
I can't take it!
**[02:31] Boss**
Hey! Don't just run off!
**[02:34] Kouhai**
Returning to duty!
**[02:35] Kouhai**
Re-entering "operations mode"!
**[02:37] Kouhai**
Ops, on!
**[02:41] Kouhai**
Thank you for your call.
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** Verify their
information!
**[02:43] Kouhai**
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** We can go out for seafood after work!
***SIGN*** Verify their
information!
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** We can go out for seafood after work!
***SIGN*** Verify their
information!
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** We can go out for seafood after work!
***SIGN*** Verify their
information!
***SIGN*** I understand
your frustration!
***SIGN*** You got this!
**[02:43] Ekoda**
It's utter chaos in here.
***SIGN*** No snacking!
***SIGN*** We can go out for seafood after work!
***SIGN*** Verify their
information!
***SIGN*** I understand
your frustration!
***SIGN*** You got this!
***SIGN*** You got this!
**[02:45] Ekoda**
*I want to run away, too.*
**[02:47] Ekoda**
* But it's not in my nature to go off the deep end*
* and lose control when all hell breaks loose.*
**[02:52] Ekoda**
Thank you for your call. You're through to
Phoenix Life Insurance customer services.
**[02:56] Customer**
*Um... My son caught a STD and...*
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:45] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:51] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:53] Narrator**
Today, we *would* be unveiling the
director of Episode 9: Takahashi Takeo,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
**[03:58] Narrator**
but he passed up the chance to appear!
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Director
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshimizu Ami
**[04:01] Narrator**
Surely that would only be allowed
on a show as free-spirited as Ekoda-chan?
**[04:04] Narrator**
We'll speak to Ekoda-chan's VA
for this week, Koshimizu Ami-san,
**[04:07] Narrator**
and it's going to be a little
different from usual!
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshimizu Ami
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
**[04:17] Takahashi 2**
Regarding the round-table
discussion with Director Takahashi...
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Regarding Director Takahashi...
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
Koshimizu Ami
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
**[04:20] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[04:21] Takahashi 2**
Whenever he's on camera, he tends
to just freeze up completely.
**[04:25] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[04:26] Takahashi 2**
And seeing as how that'd
create a whole heap of issues,
**[04:29] Takahashi 2**
he opted to sit this one out.
**[04:31] Takahashi 2**
With that in mind,
I, the voice actor, Takahashi Ryosuke,
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Director
Takahashi Takeo
(VA: Takahashi Ryosuke)
**[04:36] Takahashi 2**
will be performing the role of
Takahashi Takeo for this episode.
**[04:41] Koshimizu**
Yay!
**[04:42] Kataoka**
So that's...
**[04:42] Koshimizu**
Yay!
**[04:44] Kataoka**
I was wondering why the director looked
so different. That explains everything.
**[04:48] Kataoka**
Thanks for coming.
**[04:48] Koshimizu**
Seriously!
**[04:49] Koshimizu**
It's good to have you here.
**[04:51] Kataoka**
Our director is an industry veteran,
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The director and Koshimizu-san's first meeting...
**[04:53] Kataoka**
and from where I sit, you're quite
the veteran yourself, Koshimizu-san.
**[04:57] Kataoka**
Do you remember when you
first encountered each other?
**[05:00] Takahashi 2**
We first met on a project
I directed called "Spice and Wolf."
**[05:06] Koshimizu**
That's right.
**[05:06] Kataoka**
Was "Spice and Wolf" a TV series? Or a movie?
**[05:09] Koshimizu**
Well...
**[05:10] Koshimizu**
It was a TV series I was in,
and looking back...
**[05:14] Koshimizu**
I guess it must've been... about
ten years ago? Maybe a little more?
**[05:21] Koshimizu**
Yeah.
**[05:23] Kataoka**
What were your impressions of
Koshimizu-san back then, Director?
**[05:25] Takahashi 2**
I was impressed with how
well she handled interviews,
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** First impressions of Koshimizu-san
**[05:29] Takahashi 2**
in spite of her youthfulness.
**[05:31] Koshimizu**
Thank you so much!
**[05:33] Koshimizu**
So *that's* what you thought.
**[05:35] Kataoka**
And what were your impressions
of the director, Koshimizu-san?
**[05:37] Koshimizu**
Well, just like today,
***SIGN*** First impressions of Director Takahashi
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
**[05:40] Koshimizu**
he seemed so shy, he could have really
used a voice actor to speak for him.
**[05:44] Kataoka**
Shy...
**[05:45] Koshimizu**
Whenever the director talked,
it was a bit like... "Yes."
**[05:50] Koshimizu**
And I'd be like, "Wait, what?"
**[05:52] Koshimizu**
And he'd just whisper: "Yes, well..."
**[05:54] Koshimizu**
That's how he is. Shy.
**[05:56] Kataoka**
A director's job is to helm the project.
***SIGN*** It's okay to be a quiet director?
**[06:00] Kataoka**
So if he puts everything in his head or
everything he wants to say into the show,
**[06:04] Kataoka**
then, whether he utters
a word or not doesn't matter,
**[06:08] Kataoka**
as long as it's all up there
on the screen, I think.
**[06:14] Koshimizu**
You might have a point there. Right?
***SIGN*** The 3-Minute World
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
**[06:24] Kataoka**
How did you come up with
the concept for this episode?
**[06:24] Censor Bar**
Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Behind the concept
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
**[06:29] Ami**
Oh, now that you mention it...
**[06:29] Kataoka**
I'd love to know.
**[06:30] Ami**
That's a good question.
**[06:32] Takahashi 2**
The concept behind the original work,
along with this adaptation,
**[06:35] Takahashi 2**
was something the producer
outlined beforehand.
**[06:38] Takahashi 2**
So my focus was on how to best utilize
the short three-minute run-time.
**[06:42] Kataoka**
You'll notice that his answer just now
**[06:44] Kataoka**
was about the episode format.
**[06:47] Kataoka**
I get the feeling that it's his way
of saying, "You know this already!"
**[06:52] Koshimizu**
The thing that impressed me
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Is three minutes long or short?
**[06:54] Koshimizu**
is that, compared to the length of a typical
TV episode, three minutes isn't a lot of time.
**[07:01] Koshimizu**
And there's the fact that
Ekoda-chan is a 4-koma manga,
**[07:03] Koshimizu**
so adapting one strip into three minutes
would stretch the material a little thin.
**[07:07] Koshimizu**
So the issue becomes, how do you
expand on what you're working with,
**[07:12] Koshimizu**
while still keeping it contained
to a single episode?
**[07:14] Koshimizu**
And when I was doing the voice-over,
I was like, "So that's how you do it!"
**[07:18] Koshimizu**
That's the impression I got.
**[07:19] Koshimizu**
Now, out of curiosity...
**[07:20] Koshimizu**
You're currently doing the director's voice...
**[07:23] Takahashi 2**
Right.
**[07:24] Koshimizu**
But what did you think of it, Takahashi-san?
Takahashi the voice actor, I mean.
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** What did Takahashi-san (the guy portraying the director) think?
**[07:28] Takahashi 2**
Let's see, I think, once I saw the
video in the voice-over session...
**[07:32] Takahashi 2**
The way the cuts were put
together to look so seamless,
**[07:38] Takahashi 2**
combined with the seriously
fast pace of the story...
**[07:43] Takahashi 2**
Even thought it was only three
minutes' long, the way it played out...
**[07:46] Takahashi 2**
I thought it was really bold and cool.
**[07:49] Koshimizu**
It's really amazing how
it's got these parallel stories.
**[07:51] Koshimizu**
You see all of them playing out at the same
time. Over the course of three minutes.
**[07:53] Censor Bar**
Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Creating such a vibrant world in just 3 minutes is an impressive feat
**[07:56] Koshimizu**
But you see the lives of so many
people playing out at once.
**[07:59] Takahashi 2**
It's really impressive
in terms of how efficient it is.
**[08:03] Kataoka**
This story takes place in a call
center for a life insurance firm.
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Using a life insurance firm call center as a setting
**[08:08] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[08:09] Kataoka**
Choosing that for his setting
is really interesting.
**[08:12] Koshimizu**
I agree.
**[08:13] Kataoka**
I mean, the phone operators
who work in a job like that...
**[08:16] Kataoka**
They end up taking
some pretty heavy calls.
**[08:18] Koshimizu**
True.
**[08:19] Kataoka**
They're on the phone with people
**[08:23] Kataoka**
who are going through very
dramatic moments in their lives.
**[08:29] Kataoka**
And I imagine they get exposed
to a lot of different reactions,
**[08:32] Kataoka**
and I found it impressive
how that was represented.
**[08:34] Koshimizu**
You've got a point.
**[08:36] Koshimizu**
The way you kinda get a feeling
for the lives of these callers,
**[08:42] Koshimizu**
as well as the people taking their calls.
**[08:45] Koshimizu**
The fact that everything plays
out over just three minutes,
**[08:49] Koshimizu**
but you get bombarded with so much!
**[08:51] Koshimizu**
Nicely done!
**[08:53] Kataoka**
I was impressed myself.
**[08:54] Koshimizu**
Right?
**[08:55] Takahashi 2**
Right.
**[08:57] Kataoka**
When you were putting together the episode,
did anything give you trouble?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Any difficulties putting the episode together?
**[09:01] Takahashi 2**
This episode uses POV perspective,
with no 3D modeling in sight,
**[09:06] Takahashi 2**
and we see everything through
the eyes of the main character.
**[09:10] Takahashi 2**
I don't believe this has ever
been done in TV anime,
**[09:13] Takahashi 2**
and the process of nailing down how
to choreograph it was a great deal of work,
**[09:18] Takahashi 2**
but I believe we've produced something
hitherto unseen in this medium.
**[09:22] Koshimizu**
You're right!
**[09:23] Kataoka**
I thought as much.
**[09:24] Koshimizu**
Now that you mention it, yeah.
**[09:26] Koshimizu**
When you put it like that,
**[09:29] Koshimizu**
it makes me want to tell everyone
to go re-watch the episode somehow.
**[09:34] Kataoka**
Something you mentioned, Koshimizu-san,
**[09:37] Kataoka**
is that you took a lot of
your inspiration for lines
**[09:42] Kataoka**
from the way the perspective
of the camera moved.
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The camera perspective made it easier to get into character
**[09:46] Kataoka**
It's interesting how the set up of
the shots contain that kind of insight.
**[09:49] Koshimizu**
You've got a point.
**[09:51] Koshimizu**
I think that might well be the case.
**[09:54] Kataoka**
So it's only three minutes...
**[09:57] Kataoka**
Yeah.
**[09:58] Kataoka**
but the voice-over process
took almost two hours.
**[10:01] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[10:02] Kataoka**
And I'm sure you had to do a lot of
thinking about how to nail the character.
**[10:07] Kataoka**
Looking back now,
***SIGN*** Things emphasized during the voice-over recording
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
**[10:10] Kataoka**
did anything strike you
as being noteworthy,
**[10:12] Kataoka**
or did you have any moments of inspiration?
**[10:14] Koshimizu**
Well, earlier, the director
said something about
**[10:18] Koshimizu**
how it focuses on showing
how many different things
**[10:21] Koshimizu**
can happen at once in the same space.
**[10:24] Koshimizu**
And Ekoda-chan is slap bang in the
center of everything that's going on.
**[10:30] Koshimizu**
So there's this confined space,
and here's Ekoda-chan,
***SIGN*** Building an environment around Ekoda-chan
**[10:33] Koshimizu**
and in her orbit is all this
stuff that's happening.
**[10:36] Koshimizu**
And in order to highlight that
she's at the center of it all,
**[10:41] Koshimizu**
for her internal monologue, and for her
interactions with other characters, too,
**[10:46] Koshimizu**
I wanted to talk with a level of intimacy
**[10:50] Koshimizu**
that would encourage the audience
to see through her eyes.
**[10:58] Koshimizu**
While everyone else is
yammering on and making a fuss,
**[11:02] Koshimizu**
there's that one scene where
she just stares out the window...
**[11:07] Koshimizu**
I thought that was incredibly realistic.
**[11:10] Koshimizu**
I think that, in life, you're
sometimes in conversations
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The realism of Ekoda-chan
**[11:13] Koshimizu**
where you're just going, "Yeah, you're right."
**[11:16] Koshimizu**
Like, if there's three of you talking,
**[11:18] Koshimizu**
and your whole contribution is,
"Mmhm. Mmhm. Mmhm."
**[11:21] Koshimizu**
And then, you get distracted,
or start thinking about something else...
**[11:25] Koshimizu**
I think everyone has moments like that.
**[11:27] Koshimizu**
The way that was depicted...
**[11:30] Koshimizu**
I really wanted to get across how you feel
inside when you have those moments.
**[11:41] Kataoka**
I would think that's really hard to do, as well.
**[11:44] Kataoka**
I asked the director if he wanted
to make a quiet episode or a busy one.
**[11:50] Kataoka**
And he said he wanted a busy one.
**[11:52] Kataoka**
So everyone except Ekoda-chan
**[11:54] Kataoka**
is making a lot of noise.
**[11:55] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[11:56] Kataoka**
And amidst that cacophony,
she peers out the window...
**[12:00] Koshimizu**
Right! Exactly!
**[12:02] Koshimizu**
But y'know, the way things get more
and more chaotic in the second half,
**[12:07] Koshimizu**
that was something I thought was really fun.
**[12:10] Koshimizu**
And cramming so many points
of interest into just three minutes
**[12:19] Koshimizu**
wasn't just entertaining;
it was really amazing, too.
**[12:22] Kataoka**
Right.
**[12:23] Kataoka**
There's the part where she looks
out the window and it's dusk,
**[12:26] Kataoka**
and then later, a thunderstorm rolls in.
**[12:28] Kataoka**
You generally don't associate
those two things with each other.
**[12:33] Kataoka**
So putting them back to back is
something of a surprise to the viewer...
**[12:37] Kataoka**
Coupled with the way the bit
with the sunset helps to break up
**[12:41] Kataoka**
the noise of the episode, and keeps it
from turning into pure noise.
**[12:44] Kataoka**
And with Ekoda-chan's internal
monologue in the mix, too.
**[12:47] Koshimizu**
It helps modulate the tempo.
**[12:50] Kataoka**
I would've thought having that variation
would make the vocal performance harder.
**[12:54] Koshimizu**
Oh, no, not at all!
**[12:55] Koshimizu**
Having to mix it up just adds to the fun.
**[12:56] Kataoka**
Ah, I see.
**[12:58] Koshimizu**
That's what I think.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Director
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshimizu Ami
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:06] Narrator**
The first half highlighted the attention
to detail shown by Director Takahashi Takeo,
**[13:10] Narrator**
along with his innocent personality.
**[13:13] Narrator**
In the second half, we're going to hear
Koshimizu Ami-san's candid opinions,
**[13:16] Narrator**
and philosophy on life.
**[13:19] Narrator**
Watch this and you too can
become like Ekoda-chan! Maybe.
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Koshimizu Ami-san's Smorgasbord
of Behind-the-Scenes Stories
**[13:25] Kataoka**
Did you have any first impressions
when the script dropped in your lap?
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
**[13:29] Koshimizu**
Good question! Well...
**[13:31] Koshimizu**
When you look at a script,
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** First impressions when reading the script
**[13:33] Koshimizu**
there's the section that describes
what's going on in the scene,
**[13:39] Koshimizu**
and below that, it has who's
speaking and their lines.
**[13:43] Koshimizu**
That's how voice-over
scripts are structured.
**[13:45] Koshimizu**
So I'm scanning it, reading about the
scenes, and looking over the lines,
**[13:50] Koshimizu**
and I'm like, "This is a lot!"
**[13:53] Koshimizu**
That was my first impression, I'd say.
**[13:57] Koshimizu**
You can easily tell when
looking at a script
**[14:01] Koshimizu**
whether the story's going
to unfold at an even pace,
**[14:04] Koshimizu**
or go at breakneck speed
with a buttload of action.
**[14:07] Koshimizu**
To make it easier to picture,
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The story's atmosphere being apparent in the script
**[14:09] Koshimizu**
imagine you've got the scene here,
and the spoken lines underneath.
**[14:14] Koshimizu**
And then, down here, you've
also got overlapping dialogue,
**[14:18] Koshimizu**
so it's a lot going on all at once.
**[14:19] Koshimizu**
So as I'm reading it, my reaction is, "What's
the recording going to be like tomorrow?"
**[14:24] Koshimizu**
"Oh, boy!" Basically.
**[14:26] Kataoka**
So, as you're reading,
**[14:28] Kataoka**
I imagine you're formulating your
approach to voicing her in your head, yes?
**[14:31] Kataoka**
Did any of those ideas change when you
got in the studio and were given direction?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Anything you noticed about the direction you received?
**[14:37] Koshimizu**
I think that can be said
of any character, to be honest,
**[14:41] Koshimizu**
because voice actors read the script
themselves and have their own take on them,
**[14:45] Koshimizu**
and well, their ideas aren't exactly *wrong*,
**[14:49] Koshimizu**
but additional takes are done to explore
the dialogue from a whole range of angles,
**[14:55] Koshimizu**
and I thought there was
a lot of that in this recording,
**[14:58] Koshimizu**
exploring all the different possibilities.
**[15:03] Kataoka**
Did you find any of Ekoda-chan's
lines particularly memorable?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Any memorable lines?
**[15:09] Koshimizu**
That's a good question!
**[15:11] Koshimizu**
Something I think most
women might tune in on,
**[15:16] Koshimizu**
is how, at the very end,
she's talking to herself,
**[15:18] Koshimizu**
and she lets slip that she wants to run away,
**[15:21] Koshimizu**
because of the crazy
situation she finds herself in,
**[15:25] Koshimizu**
but she's just not the kind
of person who does that.
**[15:28] ---**
My reaction to that was: "I feel you."
**[15:31] Kataoka**
You could relate to that?
**[15:32] Koshimizu**
I totally got that part.
**[15:34] Koshimizu**
That feeling of wanting to
join in with the mass hysteria,
**[15:37] Koshimizu**
but you just can't.
**[15:39] Koshimizu**
Something about that
really resonated with me.
**[15:44] Koshimizu**
It left a deep impression.
**[15:46] Kataoka**
Have you been in a lot of situations
where you end up thinking that?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Moments where she's felt like that
**[15:50] Koshimizu**
Where I want to quit,
but can't bring myself to?
**[15:53] Kataoka**
Yeah.
**[15:54] Koshimizu**
Well, I think that, in moments like that,
**[15:57] Koshimizu**
you always tend to get
further by toughing it out.
**[16:03] Koshimizu**
After thirty-something years on Earth,
I think that's something I've figured out.
**[16:08] Koshimizu**
Whenever I stick it out,
instead of just giving in,
**[16:13] Koshimizu**
I always end up with
something to show for it,
**[16:17] Koshimizu**
whether it's experience gained,
or something I've learned.
**[16:20] Koshimizu**
So I feel like the right move is
to hang in there and not give up.
**[16:25] Kataoka**
What do you think about
Ekoda-chan's way of life?
**[16:29] Koshimizu**
That's a tough one!
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Regarding Ekoda-chan's way of life
**[16:31] Koshimizu**
There's so much to her...
**[16:34] Koshimizu**
Like, how she's an expert at saying
one thing and thinking another,
**[16:37] Koshimizu**
and how you can't say she lives
in a totally selfish way...
**[16:41] Koshimizu**
But in spite of that, she's
always loyal to her desires.
**[16:45] Koshimizu**
She's the kind of character
that I find pretty remarkable,
**[16:49] Koshimizu**
because her life's so different from mine.
**[16:54] Kataoka**
You made a good point there.
**[16:57] Kataoka**
About how she's totally
honest about what she wants.
**[16:59] Koshimizu**
Yeah, exactly!
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The way Ekoda-chan is true to her desires
**[17:01] Koshimizu**
I think it's impressive.
**[17:02] Kataoka**
It's remarkable, isn't it?
**[17:03] Koshimizu**
I think that sort of thing
requires a lot of courage.
**[17:07] Koshimizu**
So it's really interesting
to see someone live like that.
**[17:11] Kataoka**
Yeah.
***SIGN*** Q&A with
Director Takahashi
**[17:17] Kataoka**
As fun as having our
own little conversation is,
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
**[17:19] Kataoka**
there are some questions
only the director can answer.
**[17:22] Kataoka**
The adaption of "Rinshi!!
Ekoda-chan" we're doing here
**[17:25] Kataoka**
involves 12 directors each doing
one three-minute episode.
**[17:30] Koshimizu**
That's remarkable.
**[17:31] Kataoka**
Doing a show where you're only making one out
of 12 episodes is an odd project to take on,
**[17:38] Kataoka**
so I'm curious as to what made
you agree to be a part of this.
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Your reasons for working on this project
**[17:44] Koshimizu**
True. I was just thinking how,
in terms of flavor,
**[17:49] Koshimizu**
Ekoda-chan is a bit different
from your previous works.
**[17:53] Koshimizu**
So I'm curious, too!
**[17:55] Koshimizu**
Why'd you agree to do it?
**[17:57] Takahashi 2**
I received the offer from a studio
**[17:59] Takahashi 2**
I've had the pleasure of working with
several times before, Creators in Pack,
**[18:05] Takahashi 2**
and after hearing about the details
of the project, I agreed to work on it.
**[18:08] Koshimizu**
I see!
**[18:10] Kataoka**
Just looking at the footage is enough
to tell you it turned out great.
**[18:13] Kataoka**
The way the storyboards were
adapted was done very faithfully,
**[18:18] Kataoka**
which made me think you must
have a great relationship
**[18:21] Kataoka**
with the people at Creators in Pack.
**[18:23] Kataoka**
I'm really curious about
what your thoughts were,
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** Regarding character design
**[18:28] Kataoka**
or what you wanted to achieve
with the character designs.
**[18:33] Takahashi 2**
I asked Ijuin-san,
who did the character designs
**[18:35] Takahashi 2**
for an anime I worked on in
2017, "Citrus," to handle that.
**[18:40] Takahashi 2**
I received a request
from the production side
**[18:45] Takahashi 2**
for elements of sexuality
to be included in the episode,
**[18:48] Takahashi 2**
so that was the main theme
going into the design.
**[18:51] Takahashi 2**
I believe the character designs captured
the essence of the source material,
**[18:56] Takahashi 2**
while also fulfilling
the producer's requests.
**[18:58] Koshimizu**
That's a good point.
**[18:59] Koshimizu**
The story Ekoda-chan's in this time,
compared to ones she's usually in...
**[19:03] Koshimizu**
She's wearing clothes, for a start!
**[19:04] Kataoka**
Yeah, she is.
**[19:07] Koshi**
So it becomes a question of "How else
do you go about injecting sexiness into it?"
**[19:12] Kataoka**
The actual story doesn't
seem all that sexual at first.
**[19:15] Koshimizu**
'Cause she's clothed!
**[19:16] Kataoka**
Exactly.
**[19:17] Kataoka**
So I think for Takahashi-san to respond
to that request with this kind of episode,
**[19:25] Kataoka**
I think it gives us the sense that
his concept of sex appeal is sort of...
**[19:30] Kataoka**
...subtle.
**[19:31] Koshimizu**
I get that feeling, too.
**[19:32] Koshimizu**
Like, it's really pure in nature.
**[19:32] Kataoka**
Right, right.
**[19:34] Koshimizu**
Which I guess is why...
**[19:35] Kataoka**
Right.
**[19:36] Koshimizu**
We have a stand-in.
**[19:38] Koshimizu**
A stand-in for the director.
**[19:41] Kataoka**
What are your thoughts
on love and marriage?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The director's thoughts on love and marriage
**[19:43] Takahashi**
In terms of cost-effectiveness,
**[19:46] Takahashi**
the price Ekoda-chan pays for her lifestyle
might seem higher than its worth.
**[19:49] Takahashi**
Personally, I think a life focused
on things like romance and marriage
**[19:53] Takahashi**
without worrying about
finances would be wonderful.
**[19:56] Takahashi**
Although, in the case of Ekoda-chan,
**[19:57] Takahashi**
her behavior can seem a bit risky at times.
**[20:03] Koshimizu**
That's true, in a way. Lately, it seems like...
**[20:08] Koshimizu**
attitudes on marriage
among the younger generation
**[20:13] Koshimizu**
seem to be changing quite a bit.
**[20:17] Kataoka**
So, Director, if you were Ekoda-chan...
***SIGN*** If you were Ekoda-chan...
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
**[20:23] Kataoka**
What kind of life would you lead?
**[20:24] Koshimizu**
A question with gender-swapping
as the premise!
**[20:28] Takahashi 2**
I've never lived in Ekoda before,
**[20:31] Takahashi 2**
so I'd love to take a stroll
around and see what it's like.
**[20:33] Koshimizu**
What the heck?!
**[20:33] Kataoka**
That answer...
**[20:36] Koshimizu**
He dodged it well.
**[20:37] Kataoka**
Indeed he did.
**[20:38] Kataoka**
What would you like to do if you
were Ekoda-chan, Koshimizu-san?
***SIGN*** If Koshimizu-san was Ekoda-chan...
**[20:42] Koshimizu**
We're just so different, both in
terms of our lives and our careers...
**[20:47] Koshimizu**
There's so much that's distinct...
**[20:49] Koshimizu**
I kinda think I'd like to just
see what her life is like, as-is.
**[20:54] Kataoka**
Good point.
**[20:56] Koshimizu**
What is that even like?
**[20:57] Koshimizu**
This episode actually gave me a glimpse into
what it might be like, in some small way.
**[21:03] Koshimizu**
Being able to see the world, and the
people in it, through Ekoda-chan's eyes...
**[21:08] Koshimizu**
What does she think?
**[21:10] Koshimizu**
I'd love a peek.
**[21:12] Kataoka**
It really is fascinating.
**[21:13] Kataoka**
Granted, you got a condensed
taste of it for three minutes.
**[21:17] Koshimizu**
Very condensed!
**[21:19] Koshimizu**
But it's true, we did.
**[21:22] Kataoka**
As we wrap up, I'd like to ask
both of you one last thing.
**[21:27] Kataoka**
What do you think is
the appeal of Ekoda-chan?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Takeo
***SIGN*** The appeal of Ekoda-chan
**[21:30] Koshimizu**
What do you think?
**[21:31] Takahashi 2**
My wife is a fan of Ekoda-chan.
**[21:34] Koshimizu**
Right.
**[21:34] Takahashi**
But, in my opinion, my wife and
Ekoda-chan are very different.
**[21:39] Takahashi**
But for my wife, she's able to relate
to a lot of the material in the manga,
**[21:43] Takahashi**
which makes me think that many
of the readers who enjoy it
**[21:46] Takahashi**
must feel the same way.
**[21:47] Koshimizu**
Oh, I really feel you on that one.
**[21:51] Koshimizu**
I think that, since there's such
a variety of different scenes,
**[21:57] Koshimizu**
there's at least one thing
that everyone can relate to,
**[22:02] Koshimizu**
and that's the charm of Ekoda-chan.
**[22:08] Narrator**
That's it for today's discussion.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:11] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:15] Narrator**
we'll go behind the scenes on the quirky
tenth episode of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:19] Narrator**
What secrets will the Director and
Ekoda-chan reveal about production?
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:24] Narrator**
Looks like next week will be
another must-see episode!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:28] Narrator**
Look forward to it!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Glasses
***SIGN*** Face
***SIGN*** Clothes
***SIGN*** Shading
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E10
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**[00:01] Ekoda**
Good evening. Ekoda-chan here.
**[00:03] Ekoda**
Today, we're gonna switch things up
and show you Ekoda-chan as envisioned
**[00:07] Ekoda**
by the artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san.
**[00:09] Ekoda**
We've gone for a Supermarionation
feel, so bear that in mind.
**[00:13] Ekoda**
Anyone who wants to watch some normal anime,
now's your chance to change the channel.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Okay, let's get this show on the road!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
**[00:22] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
**[00:30] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
**[00:38] Singing**
♫ More considerate than
you'd think at first glance ♫
**[00:44] Singing**
♫ ...which gets taken advantage of ♫
**[00:48] Singing**
♫ Not as strong as she seems ♫
**[00:52] Singing**
♫ A hot topic! ♫
**[00:56] Singing**
♫ I find the tiniest bit of happiness ♫
**[01:01] Singing**
♫ ...and don't even realize! ♫
**[01:04] Singing**
♫ As long as loneliness exists in this world ♫
**[01:08] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists within my heart ♫
**[01:17] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in your heart... ♫
**[01:31] Singing**
♫ Shine on, Ekoda! ♫
**[01:32] Singing**
♫ You're the Japanese Marilyn Monroe! ♫
**[01:35] Singing**
♫ Shine on, Ekoda! ♫
**[01:37] Singing**
♫ You're a modern-day samurai general! ♫
**[01:40] Singing**
♫ Usually naked! ♫
**[01:41] Singing**
♫ Usually naked! ♫
**[01:42] Singing**
♫ Usually naked! ♫
**[01:49] Singing**
*Gotta keep it real!*
**[01:51] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
**[01:53] Singing**
*You wanna go to Hawaii?*
**[01:54] Singing**
*You bet I do!*
**[01:57] ---**
*I don't care!*
**[01:58] ---**
*I'm jumping in the ocean!*
**[01:59] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
**[02:01] Singing**
*So slippery! Gonna crash!*
**[02:03] ---**
*Welcome to midriff town!*
**[02:06] Singing**
*High school!*
**[02:07] ---**
*Cool!*
**[02:08] Singing**
♫ Such a people-pleaser ♫
**[02:14] Singing**
♫ ...which gets taken advantage of! ♫
**[02:17] Singing**
♫ No peculiar sexual fetishes ♫
**[02:22] Singing**
♫ Not that anyone believes me! ♫
**[02:25] Singing**
♫ Once I get sick of being trapped in a cycle ♫
**[02:30] Singing**
♫ I never go back! ♫
**[02:33] Singing**
♫ As long as men exist in this world ♫
**[02:37] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists within all our hearts! ♫
**[02:46] Singing**
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts! ♫
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:45] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:51] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:53] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 10: Nagahama Hiroshi,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Kobayashi Ai.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Ai
***SIGN*** And not only that, but this time,
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Ai
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Director
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** we have modern artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san, joining in the fun!
***SIGN*** Surprising secrets about the production will be revealed!
**[04:09] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
**[04:19] Kataoka**
Let's start with introductions.
**[04:20] Kataoka**
If you could go first, Kobayashi-san.
**[04:22] Ai**
Right.
**[04:23] Ai**
I played Ekoda-chan.
My name is Kobayashi Ai.
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
Kobayashi Ai
**[04:27] Ai**
I've been a fan of Ekoda-chan ever
since the manga first went on sale,
**[04:31] Ai**
so I'm tickled pink to be part of this.
**[04:33] Ai**
And that's all.
**[04:34] Kataoka**
And you, Nagahama-san...
**[04:35] Naga**
Well, I'm meant to be the director,
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Director
Nagahama Hiroshi
**[04:38] Naga**
so I suppose you can say that's
what I am. I'm Nagahama Hiroshi.
**[04:41] Naga**
Ekoda-chan has been adapted
a few times in the past,
**[04:44] Naga**
so I wanted to try something
a little different,
**[04:50] Naga**
and to achieve that,
I approached this individual.
**[04:53] Ai**
Ta-da!
**[04:54] Naga**
Modern artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san.
**[04:57] Naga**
Your turn, Sasaoka-san.
***SIGN*** Modern Artist
Sasaoka Yuriko
**[04:57] Naga**
Right.
**[04:58] Sasa**
I'm Sasaoka Yuriko, a modern artist.
**[05:01] Sasa**
The Ekoda-chan manga was like
a bible to me when I was a student,
**[05:08] Sasa**
so I'm also tickled pink.
**[05:09] Ai**
Right?
**[05:11] Ai**
This setup makes me wonder
what you actually did, Director.
**[05:15] Naga**
Well, leaving that aside...
For now, at least.
**[05:17] Naga**
We can come back to that later.
**[05:19] Ai**
I see.
***SIGN*** Thoughts on today's recording
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
**[05:21] Naga**
It was fun.
**[05:22] Kataoka**
Fun?
**[05:22] Naga**
I'd say that describes it pretty well.
**[05:26] Naga**
Nothing beats a job
where everyone's laughing
**[05:29] Naga**
about how much fun it was
to work on the project together.
**[05:32] Ai**
It wasn't really your typical
voice-over session, was it?
***SIGN*** Kobayashi-san struggled with recording the song?!
**[05:36] Ai**
More like... a recording session?
**[05:38] Naga**
A recording session.
**[05:38] Ai**
Where you record songs.
**[05:40] Ai**
I have to admit, I was sweating bullets.
**[05:43] Ai**
It feels like my little intro before
the song is a distant memory now.
**[05:48] Ai**
I don't even remember doing it.
**[05:49] Naga**
Really?
**[05:50] Naga**
But the intro was done after the singing.
**[05:52] Ai**
It was, but because of the singing...
**[05:55] Ai**
I'd worked my vocal chords a little too hard.
**[05:59] Ai**
I even got choked up a few times.
**[06:01] Ai**
So... the order of things was kinda backwards.
**[06:06] Naga**
It turned out better than I was expecting.
**[06:08] Ai**
Oh, my.
**[06:10] Naga**
You were even truer to Ekoda-chan
**[06:11] Ai**
This is embarrassing...
**[06:11] Naga**
than I could've hoped for.
**[06:14] Naga**
Even the bits that were flubbed,
**[06:15] Naga**
or the bits that didn't
sound the greatest vocally...
**[06:18] Naga**
They seemed totally in character.
**[06:20] Naga**
She did an amazing job. Don't you think?
**[06:23] Sasa**
She really did. For me,
that just *was* Ekoda-chan's voice.
**[06:29] Sasa**
Because of that passion,
and that throaty sexiness.
**[06:34] Sasa**
It's just how I imagined her sounding.
**[06:36] Ai**
I-I-I-I'm honored.
**[06:39] Ai**
Well, because I was so totally
focused on nailing the singing,
**[06:43] Ai**
not much else was
going through my head.
**[06:45] Naga**
I see. I see.
**[06:48] Ai**
I felt totally exposed.
**[06:52] Naga**
That makes sense. Just like Ekoda-chan.
**[06:53] Ai**
It felt less like a job
**[06:55] Ai**
and more like everyone was dogpiling me.
**[06:58] Sasa**
And yanking you about?
**[06:58] Ai**
Pulling me around, yeah.
**[07:00] Naga**
What a situation to be in.
**[07:01] Ai**
I was freaking out.
**[07:03] Ai**
It was nerve-wracking.
**[07:04] Sasa**
You said it was a rare sight,
seeing Ai-chan so worried.
**[07:07] Naga**
It was, indeed.
**[07:09] Naga**
You looked like a soccer player.
**[07:11] Naga**
The way you were just bouncing around.
**[07:14] Naga**
Someone'd say: "We're ready
for the next take, Ai-chan,"
**[07:17] Naga**
and you reply: "Gonna nail it."
**[07:18] Naga**
We were all confused!
"What's she going to nail?"
**[07:22] Ai**
Well, I meant hitting all the notes.
**[07:24] Ai**
Oh, the rhythm.
**[07:24] Ai**
And getting the rhythm right.
**[07:26] Ai**
It was a lot of fun, though. Even if
I was in a world of despair the entire time.
**[07:30] Naga**
A world of despair!
**[07:30] Ai**
I seriously was.
***SIGN*** Sasaoka-san's first time seeing anime being made
**[07:33] Sasa**
It was my first time seeing for myself
**[07:35] Sasa**
just how many people help
put together a project like this.
**[07:41] Sasa**
It was kind of awe-inspiring.
**[07:46] Naga**
You basically directed the song
by yourself, Sasaoka-san.
**[07:49] Naga**
Asking for stronger takes.
That sort of thing.
**[07:53] Naga**
So this was a piece of cake for me.
**[07:56] Naga**
A total breeze.
**[07:56] Ai**
You had a constant grin.
**[07:58] Sasa**
I mostly just imitate what I've seen,
**[07:59] Sasa**
but when I work on a film,
I like to do the music myself.
**[08:04] Sasa**
I'm the kind of person who isn't
satisfied unless I'm involved
**[08:06] Sasa**
in every part of the process.
**[08:08] Ai**
Wow.
**[08:09] Ai**
It would've been nice
if you could've sung, too.
**[08:11] Sasa**
Oh, no, I can't sing.
**[08:13] Naga**
She can, really.
**[08:15] Naga**
But if she'd done the singing, as well,
**[08:18] Naga**
it would've put a limit on how much
she could experience with this project.
**[08:22] Naga**
Sasaoka-san doesn't usually do
this kind of collaborative work.
**[08:26] Naga**
She's usually a one-woman show.
**[08:29] Naga**
So I wanted her to find out what it was
like to work with others on a project.
**[08:33] Naga**
And I hoped that she would
end up getting something out of it.
**[08:38] Naga**
Just doing what you always do...
**[08:40] Naga**
wouldn't have been as much fun, would it?
**[08:41] Sasa**
You're right.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
Episode 10
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
**[08:48] Naga**
This is a very interesting manga.
***SIGN*** Director Nagahama's proposal for the anime
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
**[08:51] Naga**
And I was sure it'd make
for an interesting anime.
**[08:53] ---**
That's what I thought, anyway.
**[08:55] Naga**
So I asked Kataoka-san about
maybe doing an anime adaptation...
**[09:02] Naga**
How long ago was that?
**[09:04] Kataoka**
13 years ago.
**[09:05] Naga**
That was 13 years ago!
**[09:07] Naga**
The fact he remembered that discussion,
**[09:10] Naga**
and actually made it happen
after all this time amazes me.
**[09:13] Kataoka**
I'm really grateful to Nagahama-san
for making me aware of it.
**[09:17] Naga**
Well, that's kind of you to say.
**[09:18] Naga**
But it's really weirding me out,
Kataoka-san being so deferential to me.
***SIGN*** Not an adaptation, but a work born out of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
**[09:23] Naga**
The idea was to be fully aware that this is
something born out of the Ekoda-chan manga.
**[09:29] Naga**
Strictly speaking, this isn't
an adaptation of the manga.
**[09:32] Naga**
It's more something that was
made with the manga in mind.
**[09:37] Naga**
Because of that, both in the
illustration I produced for it,
**[09:40] Naga**
and in the animation for the intro,
**[09:44] Naga**
she's got blue skin.
**[09:46] Naga**
That's one of Ekoda-chan's alter
egos that appears in Volume 2.
**[09:50] Naga**
These alter egos are
everywhere in this episode.
**[09:52] Naga**
And that's part of the theme of this episode.
**[09:57] Naga**
We're all her alter-egos.
**[10:00] Naga**
And although Ekoda-chan
would hate the comparison,
**[10:07] Naga**
that sentiment shows that we
all have something in common.
**[10:12] Naga**
And it creates the kind of animosity
that comes from being alike.
**[10:19] Naga**
That was part of the reason why
I asked Sasaoka-san to get involved.
**[10:23] Naga**
I wanted something that
couldn't be accomplished
**[10:26] Naga**
by someone just drawing
an animated version of the manga.
**[10:30] Naga**
And I thought the medium she
works in would be just the ticket.
**[10:36] Naga**
My initial concept was producing something
that looked like "Thunderbirds."
***SIGN*** Director Nagahama's plan
**[10:42] Kataoka**
You did, didn't you?
**[10:43] Naga**
Yeah. I wanted it to look like "Thunderbirds,"
but sound like "La La Land."
***SIGN*** Going to "La La Land" with "Thunderbirds"
**[10:49] Naga**
But then, I had to actually
figure out how to do that.
**[10:55] Naga**
There's this live-action
director called Motoi-san,
**[10:59] Naga**
and I asked her: "Do you know anyone who
works with Thunderbirds-style marionettes?"
**[11:07] Naga**
So it was Motoi-san who turned
me on to Sasaoka-san's work.
***SIGN*** Director Nagahama meets Sasaoka-san
**[11:12] Naga**
Anyway, I went to see her
while she was working,
**[11:16] Naga**
and it was just like
watching Ekoda-chan.
**[11:18] Naga**
She was in this worn-out sweatshirt,
**[11:20] Ai**
Was she naked?
**[11:20] Naga**
and worn-out jeans... Yeah.
**[11:22] Naga**
She wasn't naked! There was no nudity!
**[11:23] Naga**
That's not what I meant!
**[11:24] Ai**
I was getting excited for a second!
**[11:25] Naga**
You just had to go there!
**[11:28] Naga**
I thought she was really interesting.
**[11:31] Naga**
And after she showed me some of her
work, I thought: "It has to be her."
**[11:34] Naga**
If this woman takes on the project,
she'll look deep into Ekoda-chan's soul.
**[11:42] Naga**
And I thought I'd get the "Thunderbirds"
meets "La La Land" episode I was after.
**[11:47] Sasa**
Was it like that, though?
**[11:48] Naga**
In regard to the run-time...
***SIGN*** Struggles with the three-minute run-time
**[11:51] Naga**
I think animation is defined by the
built-in limits of a specified run-time.
**[11:56] Naga**
Conversely, if you just sorta said:
"Take all the time you want,"
**[11:59] Naga**
or, "You can make it as long as you like,"
**[12:03] Naga**
it would basically change the medium.
**[12:07] Naga**
I wanted to show something quintessentially
Ekoda-chan in the time allotted.
**[12:10] Naga**
I imagine all the other directors
**[12:12] Naga**
felt the same way.
**[12:12] Kataoka**
They did.
**[12:13] Naga**
And that made it easy
to get motivated for this.
***SIGN*** Getting fired up for a three-minute show
**[12:15] Naga**
To make something that'd
leave people wanting more.
**[12:21] Naga**
Where they react with:
"What? It's only three minutes?!"
**[12:24] Naga**
You have to figure out how to
get people to feel that way,
**[12:28] Naga**
and that's a fun problem to solve.
**[12:32] Naga**
So I wanted Sasaoka-san to have
the majority of the time to herself,
**[12:38] Naga**
and we just handled the introduction.
**[12:43] Naga**
That intro set things up for
Sasaoka-san's part of the episode,
**[12:48] Naga**
and made it seem like some
kind of programming error.
**[12:53] Ai**
But it was premeditated.
**[12:54] Naga**
It absolutely was.
**[12:56] Ai**
I mean, even here, in this segment,
***SIGN*** A truly unique episode
**[12:58] Ai**
where it's usually just the director and
Ekoda-chan's VA sitting down for a chat,
**[13:02] Ai**
we're so fancy, we got a third person in!
**[13:04] Ai**
There are literally two people
here you could call the director.
**[13:08] Ai**
I think this episode crams
a lot more in than usual.
**[13:13] Kataoka**
You've got a point.
**[13:14] Kataoka**
Usually, we just have the two
who made the episode happen.
**[13:17] Kataoka**
But this time, two people
came up with the core concept.
**[13:20] Naga**
That's a good point.
**[13:22] Kataoka**
For this particular three-minute episode.
**[13:25] Naga**
And, at first, I was kinda worried
that I wasn't being directorial enough.
**[13:29] Naga**
But that just added to the entertainment.
**[13:31] Kataoka**
From what I've heard today,
I do think you did the job of a director.
**[13:33] Naga**
Really?
**[13:35] Naga**
Well, that's good, then.
**[13:36] Ai**
Yeah, it is.
**[13:38] Naga**
As long as it all worked out.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
**[13:44] Narrator**
In the first half, they discussed
difficulties in the recording,
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Ai
***SIGN*** Episode 10's Director
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[13:48] Narrator**
and the director's approach to the episode.
**[13:51] Narrator**
In the second half, we'll examine their
lives through the lens of Ekoda-chan.
**[13:56] Narrator**
And what production materials will
Sasaoka-san unveil that you can only see here?
***SIGN*** The Director x VA
& Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Could you relate to Ekoda-chan?
***SIGN*** Nagahama
Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
**[14:06] Naga**
Well?
**[14:07] Ai**
I have nothing but sympathy for her!
**[14:09] Naga**
I figured you might!
**[14:11] Ai**
Sympathy, and admiration.
**[14:14] Ai**
She goes through a lot,
**[14:16] Ai**
and my reaction to those moments
would be more emotional,
**[14:19] Ai**
but she's already laughed
it off by the next panel.
**[14:23] Ai**
And that's something I really admire.
**[14:27] Ai**
I get what she's going through.
I see myself in these situations.
**[14:31] Ai**
Not necessarily with this episode,
but I genuinely feel that way.
**[14:36] Ai**
When I'm reading Ekoda-chan, I'm always
going, "I know, right? I know, right?"
**[14:41] Ai**
There was one lyric in the
song that really stood out...
**[14:46] Ai**
I didn't sing that line, but the part where
she's called a modern-day samurai general...
**[14:51] Ai**
That was really funny.
***SIGN*** The appeal of Ekoda-chan
**[14:54] Sasa**
I think it's a manga where
you can recognize feelings
**[14:57] Sasa**
you don't necessarily
have the words for yet.
**[15:01] Sasa**
And seeing it on the page
allows you to sympathize,
**[15:04] Sasa**
and helps you realize there are
others who feel the same way.
**[15:07] Sasa**
Something about that
is really reassuring.
**[15:10] Sasa**
And as you read through, you start
to see yourself reflected in Ekoda-chan.
**[15:17] Sasa**
Sort of like with Buddhist statues.
**[15:19] Naga**
I see!
**[15:19] Sasa**
For some reason, in Volume 1,
**[15:21] Sasa**
she looks kind of intense and scary,
**[15:25] Sasa**
but as it goes along, she softens,
and you start to see her cute side.
**[15:29] Sasa**
Like when she gets
attached to some mildew.
**[15:31] Naga**
That's a good example.
**[15:32] Sasa**
I think she's really great.
**[15:35] Naga**
I don't know if I could honestly say
I fully understand it, since I'm a man,
**[15:41] Naga**
but it's like... I want to understand,
**[15:46] Naga**
and there are parts I definitely do get.
**[15:48] Naga**
Parts that any man should be able to get.
**[15:52] Naga**
I think it's a pretty versatile
manga, in that sense.
**[15:54] Naga**
It doesn't pigeonhole itself
by only being aimed at women.
**[15:59] Ai**
Friend M is pretty cool.
Like, you think, "I want a friend like that."
***SIGN*** The existence of Friend M
**[16:03] Ai**
The way their relationship is...
I think it's really appealing.
**[16:08] Ai**
They're not too close; they have
just the right amount of distance.
**[16:13] Ai**
That's something I'm envious of...
**[16:15] Ai**
and it makes me wish
I had a friend like that.
**[16:18] Naga**
She was in this episode.
**[16:21] Ai**
That's right.
**[16:22] Naga**
Voiced by...
**[16:24] Ai**
A classmate of mine.
**[16:27] Naga**
Wait, really?
**[16:29] Ai**
Well, you asked me if I had anyone in mind,
**[16:32] Ai**
so I ended up casting her!
**[16:35] Naga**
Well, Friend M is Ekoda-chan's friend,
**[16:38] Naga**
so it made sense for Ai-chan to pick
the person she wanted to play her.
**[16:44] Naga**
And that person was Komatsu-san.
**[16:46] Naga**
Well...
***SIGN*** How the Director and Kobayashi-san met
**[16:49] Naga**
Where we met?
**[16:51] Ai**
"Mushishi"?
**[16:52] Naga**
"Mushishi," yes.
**[16:52] Ai**
The audition for "Mushishi."
**[16:54] Naga**
Right, it was at the "Mushishi" auditions,
**[16:56] Naga**
for the role of Tanyuu,
a very important character.
**[17:00] Naga**
And then, after that...
**[17:03] Naga**
She just sorta stuck in my memory,
**[17:07] Naga**
and when we had to cast a princess
for a Crayon Shin-chan movie,
**[17:11] Naga**
I brought up the name Kobayashi Ai.
**[17:15] Naga**
And since then...
**[17:16] Ai**
Since then...
**[17:17] Naga**
It's been ten...
**[17:18] Ai**
Ten...
**[17:20] Both**
...years.
**[17:23] Naga**
Sure has.
**[17:24] Naga**
My impression at the time... hm...
***SIGN*** First impressions of Kobayashi-san
**[17:30] ---**
My immediate impression was
that she *had* to be Tanyuu.
**[17:37] Naga**
But then...
**[17:39] Naga**
You don't like the "but."
**[17:40] Ai**
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
**[17:41] Naga**
But when I listened back over the tapes,
**[17:42] Ai**
You'll ruin my career!
**[17:43] Naga**
I was like, "Wait, why did I pick Ai-chan again?"
**[17:47] Naga**
But the thing is...
**[17:49] Ai**
I didn't do a great job.
**[17:51] Naga**
Right, in the audition.
When auditioning for the part.
**[17:53] Naga**
But in the actual voice-over
sessions, she was spectacular.
**[17:58] Naga**
You were great, really.
**[18:00] Naga**
So I was kinda impressed with
myself for seeing her potential.
***SIGN*** Kobayashi-san's first impression of Director Nagahama
**[18:06] Ai**
My impression of you is mostly from when
we were traveling around for "Mushishi."
**[18:13] Ai**
I thought you were a funny guy.
**[18:17] Ai**
We ended up going all over Japan
and spending some time together,
**[18:22] Ai**
and ever since, I've thought
of him as a goofball.
**[18:27] Ai**
But once you get past that side of him,
you see the incredible work he does.
**[18:32] Ai**
So there's both admiration
and a sense of familiarity.
**[18:36] Ai**
We're good friends in a sense.
**[18:40] Kataoka**
I'm actually really curious
***SIGN*** The use of marionettes
**[18:42] Kataoka**
as to how you actually use the marionettes.
**[18:42] Ai**
Oh, I am, too.
**[18:44] Sasa**
Right. Well, I have a marionette right here.
**[18:50] Sasa**
And I control the marionette just like this,
**[18:56] Sasa**
and later, I paste my face onto it here,
where a face would usually be.
**[19:01] Sasa**
And that then becomes Ekoda-chan.
**[19:04] Sasa**
You generally don't see this kind
of elaborate movement in anime,
**[19:08] Sasa**
and even Pixar doesn't try to do it,
**[19:11] Sasa**
so I try to make sure I get in as much intricate,
**[19:13] Naga**
Wow!
**[19:14] Sasa**
articulated movement as I can when I film.
**[19:18] Naga**
Impressive.
**[19:19] Sasa**
Including me, there are three
people holding the puppets,
**[19:23] Sasa**
and moving them in time with the music.
**[19:25] Sasa**
And when I'm making a film, um...
**[19:29] Sasa**
I like to do long, single takes with no cuts,
**[19:34] Sasa**
so any slight mistakes or habits
end up feeling emphasized.
**[19:41] Sasa**
Which makes for a thrilling
experience filming it.
**[19:44] Sasa**
I started using this method because
I wanted to find a middle ground
**[19:49] Sasa**
between a puppet show and a movie.
**[19:52] Naga**
And this is Ekoda?
**[19:53] Sasa**
Yup, it's her.
**[19:56] Sasa**
Before I get to work, I find I have trouble
getting started if I haven't drawn something.
***SIGN*** Illustrations drawn before filming
**[20:03] Sasa**
So I draw the character first
to help place them in my mind,
**[20:09] Sasa**
in terms of what kind
of person Ekoda-chan is,
**[20:12] Sasa**
and what kind of things influence her,
**[20:17] Sasa**
and then, until I actually
portray them, I have these.
**[20:21] Sasa**
Done in pastels.
**[20:22] Naga**
That's impressive. In pastels, huh?
**[20:24] Sasa**
Yeah, I used pastels.
**[20:26] Sasa**
Here's Big Sis. I tried to get
across how crazy she is.
**[20:31] Sasa**
Here we go. I wanted to really
emphasize the faces of *Ekoda-chan*.
**[20:35] Sasa**
So I basically discarded the bodies.
**[20:39] Ai**
That's an amazing choice.
**[20:41] Ai**
Just cutting everything else.
**[20:41] Sasa**
It puts the focus on the faces.
***SIGN*** Your thoughts on having worked on the episode
**[20:44] Ai**
I'm kinda sad that it's over after today.
**[20:52] Ai**
This was my first time meeting
Sasaoka-san, for instance.
**[20:56] Ai**
And getting to talk, and sing,
and do a round table like this...
**[21:00] Ai**
It's all been so much! I feel full.
**[21:03] Kataoka**
That's good to hear.
**[21:04] Naga**
**[21:05] Kataoka**
What about you, Nagahama-san?
**[21:07] Naga**
Well, let's see...
**[21:10] Naga**
Y'know, it was really fun.
**[21:12] Naga**
I got to drag the artist,
Sasaoka-san, to the recording.
**[21:18] Naga**
Someone who's normally
cooped up in her own studio.
**[21:21] Naga**
So that was fun.
**[21:22] Ai**
She sure doesn't dress like a shut-in.
**[21:25] Naga**
True enough!
**[21:27] Naga**
I'm very satisfied with how everything went.
**[21:32] Naga**
I'm glad.
**[21:33] Sasa**
This was my first time being around
a professional production like this,
**[21:40] Sasa**
and seeing how many people
have internalized this work
**[21:44] Sasa**
to put together three minutes of film for it
**[21:50] Sasa**
really helps me realize the amount of
polish that goes into a project like this.
**[21:58] Sasa**
And I think it's an experience
that'll help me in future.
**[22:01] Sasa**
I feel almost like there's
pressure to capitalize on it.
**[22:04] Sasa**
So I'm going to keep working hard.
**[22:07] Naga**
That's good to hear.
**[22:07] Kataoka**
Thanks for coming.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that's it for today's discussion.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
**[22:13] Narrator**
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
**[22:17] Narrator**
we're ditching the studio and crashing
the episode wrap party instead!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:22] Narrator**
And a big-time musician
makes an appearance?
**[22:24] Narrator**
Will the free-flowing conversation
end up making any sense?
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:28] Narrator**
Find out next time!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Kyoto Studio
***SIGN*** Today, the footage for Friend M and Big Sister is being filmed
***SIGN*** The completed makeup for Friend M
***SIGN*** Test Photography
***SIGN*** The footage will be composited onto the faces of the marionettes
***SIGN*** The backgrounds are all done on blue screen
***SIGN*** Cameras rolling
***SIGN*** Checking the footage
***SIGN*** Filming Big Sis
***SIGN*** That's a wrap for today
***SIGN*** Ekoda exists in all our hearts
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E11
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***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Director:
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu
***SIGN*** On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
***SIGN*** Tales from New-Burg
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Narasaki
***SIGN*** Hamburg
Steak
Specialty
Restaurant
**[00:18] Clerk**
Welcome.
**[00:20] Clerk**
One A-Set: "The Mexican," coming right up.
**[00:22] O**
Hey, you!
**[00:24] Ekoda**
Yeah, what?
**[00:25] O**
Look, all I'm trying to say is,
music is entertainment.
**[00:29] Clerk**
Here you are.
**[00:30] O**
Oh, thanks.
**[00:31] O**
See, my plan is to hit the big time by next year.
***SIGN*** That's what you said last year.
**[00:35] BG Song**
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
**[00:37] O**
Anyway, what have you been up to lately?
**[00:39] Ekoda**
Oh, just work, doing this and—
**[00:40] O**
Just like a young lady should!
**[00:41] BG Song**
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
**[00:42] O**
This is what I'm talkin' about.
**[00:44] O**
Entertainment is the
dog *and* the cat. You dig?
**[00:47] BG Song**
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
**[00:49] Customer**
Thanks, it was delicious.
**[00:49] Ekoda**
That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
**[00:50] Clerk**
Thank you for coming.
**[00:51] O**
If anything, it helped me
realize that Bowska *is* music.
**[00:53] BG Song**
Dog! Dog! Cat!
**[00:54] O**
And I've got nothing
but gratitude for the fans!
***SIGN*** Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
**[00:57] ---**
Cat!
**[01:00] Ekoda**
You know, Ohtsuki-kun... You're a funny guy.
**[01:03] O**
See, I'm Bowska, and you're Juliette!
**[01:05] O**
No, more like Kana-chan.
**[01:07] O**
And there'll be a Takagi Boo-san
who gains legendary status,
***SIGN*** ...well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
**[01:09] O**
and that's how it oughta be.
**[01:11] Ekoda**
Can I get a beer?
**[01:12] Clerk**
Coming right up.
***SIGN*** A Night for Shoegazing
***SIGN*** Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Nakki
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Narasaki
**[01:36] Other customer**
Huh? You're drinking, Seiji-san?
**[01:39] Seiji**
Thank you very much!
**[01:41] Nakki**
Saying "rock" is fine,
but that encompasses so much.
**[01:44] Nakki**
I mean, you've got punk
and new wave, of course...
**[01:48] Nakki**
Then, out on the fringes, you've
got stuff like shoegaze, you know?
**[01:55] Nakki**
I bet you're thinking,
"What the heck is shoegaze?"
**[01:57] Nakki**
And I've asked that question myself...
**[02:00] Nakki**
But the thing is, you can't
really talk about shoegaze
**[02:02] Nakki**
if you don't have a good grasp on the history
of music, or the various epochs of rock...
***SIGN*** Deathbed Confessions
**[02:07] Nakki**
See, in England, they had
something called psychedelic rock,
**[02:10] Nakki**
and that's where it all started.
**[02:12] Nakki**
Noisy guitars and pop melodies.
That's basically what it is.
**[02:16] Nakki**
I think, for me, it started with
My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless,"
**[02:20] Nakki**
but then, you've also got techno,
death metal, neo-acoustic, bossa nova...
**[02:23] Ekoda**
Once again,
**[02:23] Ekoda**
I've picked up a worthless guy...
**[02:24] Nakki**
I went through phases of listening to
all of them, and I think I needed to.
**[02:24] Clerk**
See you next time, Seiji-san!
**[02:27] Seiji**
Thank you very much!
**[02:28] Nakki**
Just like how I needed to
read Kamijo Atsushi's "To-y."
***SIGN*** One Early Afternoon in Ekoda
***SIGN*** Starring Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Koshoji
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Sakurai Kenta
**[02:45] Ekoda**
Okay! Ready to go.
***SIGN*** ...Ekoda-chan...
***SIGN*** who lives in Ekoda
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:46] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:52] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 11: Kobayashi Osamu,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Koshoji Megumi.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshoji Megumi
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Director
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshoji Megumi
**[04:02] Narrator**
We've also got an amazing
group of guest musicians,
**[04:05] Narrator**
with a lively discussion from
the episode wrap party!
**[04:10] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:15] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
**[04:15] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[04:18] Osamu**
Cheers!
***SIGN*** Shot with the co-operation of
**[04:18] Cast**
Cheers!
**[04:21] Kosho**
Good work!
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
**[04:24] Osamu**
I'm Kobayashi Osamu, and
I directed this episode of the anime.
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Director
Kobayashi Osamu
**[04:30] Osamu**
In the past, I've directed "Beck"
and "Paradise Kiss," among others.
**[04:34] Osamu**
Stoked to be here.
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
Koshoji Megumi
**[04:35] Megumi**
I played the role of Ekoda-chan.
**[04:38] Megumi**
I'm Koshoji Megumi of "Maison
book girl" fame. It's nice to be here.
**[04:45] Kenji**
Oh, um, well, I played the role of Ohken...
**[04:50] Kenji**
Nakki and me are in a band
together called Tokusatsu.
**[04:53] Kenji**
I'm Ohtsuki Kenji. Thanks for having me.
***SIGN*** Ohtsuki Kenji
**[04:58] Osamu**
Ohken!
**[04:59] Kenji**
Thanks.
**[05:00] Nara**
I'm Narasaki. I played the role of Nakki.
***SIGN*** Music
**[05:06] Nara**
Ohken and me are in a band called Tokusatsu.
**[05:07] Ohken**
Yeah, we are.
**[05:09] Ohken**
Good to be here.
**[05:11] Osamu**
Nakki!
**[05:14] Kenta**
Well, I did some of the
background music on this episode.
**[05:19] Kenta**
I'm Maison book girl's...
uh, the band Koshoji over here is in...
**[05:25] Kenta**
I'm Maison book girl's
producer, Sakurai Kenta.
***SIGN*** Music
Sakurai Kenta
**[05:29] Kenta**
Great to be here.
**[05:31] Osamu**
Sakurai!
**[05:34] Osamu**
Now, looking at Ohken himself, Ohtsuki-san...
**[05:34] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Thoughts on working on Ekoda-chan
**[05:35] Kenji**
Right.
**[05:37] Osamu**
You played a character
who was pretty much you...
**[05:39] Osamu**
Although, I was the one who wrote your lines,
**[05:41] Kenji**
Right.
**[05:43] Kenji**
Right.
**[05:44] Osamu**
so he was kinda you, but not completely.
**[05:46] Kenji**
That sums it up.
**[05:47] Osamu**
What did you think about that?
**[05:49] Kenji**
Well, y'know... the art...
**[05:53] Kenji**
When I saw the character design,
**[05:55] Kenji**
he reminded me of myself 15 years ago.
**[05:58] Osamu**
That's a good point.
**[06:00] Kenji**
Back when I was rocking it
with Nakki in Tokusatsu,
**[06:04] Kenji**
every now and again.
**[06:05] Osamu**
Right.
**[06:05] Kenji**
And I was like, "Whoa, man!"
**[06:07] Kenji**
Because the character's got long hair,
**[06:10] Kenji**
and cracked makeup here...
**[06:10] Osamu**
Oh, right! Right.
**[06:12] Osamu**
You mean, his appearance.
**[06:13] Kenji**
So he looks even younger,
like how I did in the late '90s,
**[06:17] Kenji**
all the way up to the early 2000s,
when I was gaining more notoriety.
**[06:21] Kenji**
And that was nice to see.
**[06:23] Osamu**
Yeah! And *I* drew it.
**[06:26] Megumi**
I was a bit nervous about
whether I could do it or not,
**[06:29] Megumi**
but since I already knew
the director here...
**[06:34] Megumi**
He's even come to a few of our shows.
**[06:38] Osamu**
I love them.
**[06:38] Megumi**
And he's passionate about our music.
**[06:40] Osamu**
I love you, too, Sakurai.
**[06:42] Megumi**
Right, so I was pretty sure...
**[06:44] Megumi**
it'd be a good project to work on.
**[06:45] Osamu**
You felt reassured?
**[06:49] Megumi**
It's my first time doing anything like this,
but since it was with someone I know,
**[06:53] Megumi**
I didn't mind jumping on board.
**[06:55] Osamu**
I see.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 11 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[06:56] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Reasons for working on "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
**[07:01] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
**[07:02] Megumi**
When I heard plans were in place,
**[07:03] Megumi**
I read the first volume of the manga.
**[07:05] Osamu**
Right, I sent it over.
**[07:06] Osamu**
The story I wrote is based
on panels from that one.
**[07:08] Megumi**
Right.
**[07:10] Osamu**
So I gave her a copy and
told her to check it out.
**[07:12] Megumi**
So I got it, and read the parts in question...
**[07:17] Osamu**
The part with Ohken was
almost lifted wholesale.
**[07:20] Osamu**
Talking about making his debut on
a major label, and getting his big break...
**[07:25] Osamu**
That was all from the manga.
**[07:26] Kenji**
I see.
**[07:28] Osamu**
And hearing you deliver that line
adds another layer to the joke.
**[07:32] Osamu**
I mean, how many decades has it been?
**[07:33] Kenji**
My big break came 30 years ago, so...
**[07:37] Osamu**
But next year...
**[07:38] Megumi**
I imagined that was what you were
like before getting your big break.
**[07:42] Megumi**
Reading Ekoda-chan,
I felt like Ekoda-chan and myself
**[07:46] Megumi**
were pretty different people,
**[07:49] Megumi**
but I could see a lot of people
I know, or even friends of mine,
**[07:56] Megumi**
reflected in how she acts, like
"Oh, she's just like Ekoda-chan."
**[08:00] Megumi**
And that made me feel like
I understood her better while reading it.
**[08:05] Megumi**
That thought kinda informed
how I ended up voicing her.
**[08:10] Megumi**
That was my takeaway.
**[08:11] Osamu**
You were able to get a feel for
the realism of the character, yeah?
**[08:14] Osamu**
How people like her are out there,
and how you recognized people in her.
**[08:17] Megumi**
Oh, yeah, I definitely recognized her.
**[08:20] Osamu**
Most people don't go: "Hey, you!"
**[08:22] Megumi**
They certainly don't. That's true.
**[08:24] Osamu**
But she just responds with: "Yeah, what?"
**[08:26] Megumi**
Right!
**[08:26] Osamu**
What did you think about that line?
**[08:29] Megumi**
Well, after saying it...
**[08:31] Megumi**
Let's see, I think it's a case of...
**[08:33] Megumi**
Well, your version of Ekoda-chan is
**[08:36] Megumi**
the really laid-back type, isn't she?
**[08:39] Osamu**
Yeah. Sounds about right.
**[08:41] Megumi**
That was the impression
I got and... I'm not sure.
**[08:47] Megumi**
I don't really think I'm all that laid-back.
**[08:51] Megumi**
I mean, maybe I am,
but I don't think of myself that way.
**[08:53] Osamu**
Cool, sure, but maybe not laid-back.
**[08:56] Megumi**
So I think if someone said, "Hey, you!" at me,
I'd probably go, "Hey, you!" right back.
**[09:00] Kenji**
That seems like what someone
who's laid-back would say back, though.
**[09:04] Megumi**
I guess so!
**[09:05] Kenji**
Right? That's pretty laid-back.
**[09:05] Nakki**
I'm not sure.
**[09:07] Megumi**
Is that what it is?
**[09:08] Osamu**
Laid-back...
**[09:09] Megumi**
Am I laid-back?
**[09:09] Kenji**
Maybe it's more like... easygoing?
**[09:11] Megumi**
Ah, easygoing, yeah.
**[09:12] Megumi**
So because of that, I imagined
her as this cool, laid-back chick.
**[09:19] Kenji**
Dubbing voices is just...
I mean, getting the timing right...
**[09:23] Kenji**
I was clueless.
**[09:24] Osamu**
You had to do a few takes.
**[09:25] Kenji**
Oh, for sure!
**[09:27] Kenji**
It was just... It made me realize
how amazing voice actors are.
**[09:31] Osamu**
I was impressed with your timing.
**[09:33] Kenji**
I dunno...
**[09:34] Osamu**
The "dog and the cat" part.
**[09:37] Kenji**
I played a villain in "Kamen
Rider" once, and I had to...
**[09:43] Kenta**
You get around.
**[09:44] Kenji**
Well, they had battle scenes, you know?
**[09:47] Osamu**
Oh, that's iki-shibai! "Voice grunting."
**[09:49] Osamu**
That's called iki-shibai.
**[09:49] Kenji**
Iki-shibai, huh?
**[09:51] Osamu**
Like when you're fighting...
**[09:52] Kenji**
Right.
**[09:55] Kenji**
Yeah, just like that!
**[09:55] Osamu**
Those kinds of noises.
**[09:56] Kenji**
That was really tough!
**[09:58] Kenta**
Oh, I get it. The "iki" part of
"iki-shibai" means "breathing."
**[10:02] Osamu**
Right, it's all about breathing.
**[10:04] Osamu**
It happens a lot in anime.
**[10:05] Kenta**
Ah, I see.
**[10:06] Kenji**
It's seriously hard.
**[10:08] Osamu**
There's a story behind why
I asked Koshoji-san to act in this.
**[10:13] Megumi**
Oh, yeah. A story—
**[10:14] Osamu**
When Getters-san said...
**[10:17] Megumi**
So there's this famous fortune-teller
called Getters Iida-san,
**[10:23] Megumi**
and we were appearing at an event together,
**[10:26] Megumi**
so he ended up reading my fortune.
**[10:30] Osamu**
And then?
**[10:30] Megumi**
Well, he said... uh...
**[10:32] Megumi**
It'd be a good idea for me to go into acting.
**[10:35] Osamu**
It was foretold.
**[10:37] Megumi**
And I think you caught wind of it.
**[10:38] Osamu**
Right.
**[10:39] Megumi**
But even though he'd said that,
**[10:41] Megumi**
I wasn't so sure, so I told you,
and you brought up voice acting.
**[10:45] Osamu**
I asked her if she wanted to do it.
**[10:47] Megumi**
Right, right. There and then.
**[10:48] Osamu**
And you agreed straight away.
**[10:50] Osamu**
So it was settled in that moment,
and you became Ekoda-chan.
**[10:52] Megumi**
Really? Thanks!
**[10:54] Megumi**
It was a lot of fun.
**[10:56] Osamu**
Nakki, you also played a you
that wasn't really you.
***SIGN*** Narasaki-san's first experience doing voice-overs
**[11:01] Osamu**
And it's funny, because you would never
talk about shoegaze, but the character does.
**[11:05] Osamu**
But there was an element of you
in there. Art-wise, at least.
**[11:08] Osamu**
What did you think about playing him?
**[11:10] Nakki**
Well, it was my first time acting,
and I think I've caught the acting bug.
**[11:16] Osamu**
I knew it! I thought you would!
**[11:18] Nakki**
I wanted to flex my acting muscles.
**[11:20] Osamu**
You sent over a little sample
beforehand that was very voice actor-y.
**[11:25] Nakki**
Well, I was practicing,
and I sent you the results...
**[11:27] Nakki**
And then, you told me
**[11:28] Nakki**
I needed to sound more normal.
**[11:29] Osamu**
Not my exact words.
**[11:30] Kenta**
Something I like about
Nakki-san is, he's got a cute side.
**[11:33] Kenta**
I've always thought that.
Like, how he's always practicing...
**[11:37] Kenta**
I really like how diligent you are.
**[11:40] Megumi**
He's lost for words!
**[11:42] Osamu**
But what did you think after doing it?
**[11:44] Osamu**
I know I gave you a bit of direction.
**[11:46] Nakki**
Oh, yeah, it was fun.
**[11:47] Nakki**
Yeah, I think this might lead to me
taking more and more voice-acting jobs.
**[11:52] Nakki**
Let me know if you need anyone.
**[11:54] Osamu**
I remember Sakurai-kun sent me a message,
**[11:57] Kenta**
Right.
**[11:58] Osamu**
telling me about what a great job you did.
**[12:00] Osamu**
And it really was a super job.
**[12:03] Osamu**
That's because, from
a professional perspective,
**[12:05] Osamu**
I wasn't looking for something
that sounded too rehearsed.
**[12:10] Osamu**
"Well, ya know what I think?"
**[12:12] Kenta**
I didn't really want a run-of-the-mill
**[12:12] Kenta**
That kind of finely-honed take.
**[12:14] Kenta**
voice-acting performance.
**[12:16] Nakki**
Right.
**[12:16] Osamu**
I wanted it to sound natural,
**[12:18] Osamu**
but not to the point
where it was really loose.
**[12:21] Osamu**
And Nakki was able to do that, walking the
tightrope between too clunky and too slick.
**[12:28] Kenta**
Right.
**[12:29] Osamu**
Right?
**[12:29] Kenta**
I think, normally...
**[12:31] Kenta**
You get situations like this sometimes,
**[12:33] Kenta**
where we go out for drinks,
every now and then,
**[12:38] Kenta**
and in situations like that, it's a bit like...
**[12:41] Kenta**
You get a taste of Nakki-san's...
Well, his great conversational tone, I guess?
**[12:45] Kenta**
That's how I think of it.
**[12:47] Kenta**
And I think it came out in
the episode, which is great.
**[12:52] Osamu**
Right?
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Director
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu
***SIGN*** Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Koshoji Megumi
**[12:59] Narrator**
In the first half, things were lively,
with stories from the recording,
**[13:03] Narrator**
and insights into the casting.
**[13:05] Narrator**
In the second half, we'll hear about the
attention to detail that goes into the music,
**[13:08] Narrator**
and about the locations
depicted in the anime.
***SIGN*** Thoughts on reading the
script for the first time?
**[13:15] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Thoughts on reading the script?
**[13:20] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
**[13:20] Megumi**
When I first read the script...
**[13:22] Osamu**
You saw the storyboards first.
**[13:23] Megumi**
Oh, that's right.
**[13:25] Megumi**
The thing with the art is, instead of
how Ekoda-chan looks in the manga...
**[13:31] Osamu**
Yeah?
**[13:32] Megumi**
Which I read, Kobayashi-san,
**[13:33] Osamu**
Right, right.
**[13:35] Megumi**
when you sent it to me...
**[13:37] Megumi**
But the art in the storyboards,
instead of looking like Ekoda-chan...
**[13:41] Megumi**
She looked a bit like me, I thought.
**[13:43] Osamu**
My first sketch was basically you.
**[13:45] Megumi**
Oh, I see now.
**[13:46] Osamu**
Wasn't easy making her look like Ekoda-chan.
**[13:48] Megumi**
And you know, as I was thinking that...
**[13:53] Osamu**
I mixed you two together.
**[13:56] Megumi**
And that somehow made it
**[13:57] Megumi**
easier to get into the role.
**[13:59] Osamu**
I see.
**[14:00] Osamu**
Instead of it being a totally
different person,
**[14:03] Osamu**
it was more like an alternate
version of myself.
**[14:06] Osamu**
That was how it came across to me.
**[14:08] Osamu**
That's a great way of putting it.
**[14:10] Megumi**
Is it?
**[14:10] Osamu**
But you're not usually
a voice actress, are you?
**[14:14] Megumi**
You're right.
**[14:14] Osamu**
And people might wonder why
I didn't cast seasoned voice actors,
**[14:17] Osamu**
and I was the one who
asked you all to do this...
**[14:21] Osamu**
I wanted it to sound like something you
wouldn't get if you used the usual suspects.
**[14:26] Osamu**
And then, we have Nakki,
**[14:28] Osamu**
who's like "I can totally do this,"
and sounding like a proper voice actor.
**[14:32] Osamu**
And he could totally pull that off.
**[14:33] Osamu**
But what Sakurai-kun mentioned,
**[14:35] Osamu**
his normal speaking voice
was what I was really after.
**[14:39] Sakurai**
Oh, I see.
**[14:41] Osamu**
For Ohken, I mean, he's
a consummate entertainer...
**[14:43] Kenta**
Right.
**[14:44] Osamu**
So I just wanted him to be entertaining.
**[14:47] Osamu**
And it's the same with you, Koshoji-san.
**[14:49] Osamu**
I wanted it to be good,
and not just "good for voice-acting."
**[14:52] Osamu**
I wanted something different.
**[14:55] Osamu**
That's why I wanted you
to put your own mark on it.
**[15:00] Osamu**
And that's exactly what
you did, so it's all good.
**[15:04] Kenji**
I lack some kind of fundamental skill
when it comes to reading scripts,
**[15:08] Kenji**
so... I mean, I've had cameos
on TV shows and in movies before,
**[15:13] Kenji**
but voice scripts are different, right?
They're not written in prose.
**[15:18] Kenji**
And there's stuff I don't
understand with the drawings...
**[15:21] Osamu**
Did I show you the
storyboards first this time?
**[15:24] Kenji**
Did you?
**[15:25] Osamu**
Before the script?
**[15:25] Kenji**
I remember seeing New-Burg.
**[15:29] Kenji**
I thought that was interesting.
**[15:30] Osamu**
We can get back to that later!
**[15:32] Kenji**
I think this is a case where...
**[15:35] Kenji**
I mean, this is something I've learned since
doing Zetsubou-sensei and meeting Nakki,
**[15:40] Kenji**
but in terms of anime, I'm from
the "Inakappe Taisho" generation.
**[15:44] Osamu**
The "Buh why?" guy?
**[15:45] Kenji**
Yeah, like "Hakushon Daimao." The old stuff.
**[15:47] Kenji**
So I had no idea anime had become
so sharp-looking, with such an edge to it.
**[15:54] Osamu**
Especially this episode, since
my version delves into subcultures.
**[15:57] Kenji**
So I thought, since we were going for edgy,
**[16:01] Kenji**
I thought, instead of trying
to memorize the script,
**[16:04] Kenji**
I'd just capitalize on the
mood in the booth.
**[16:07] Osamu**
Of course.
**[16:07] Kenji**
I thought that was more what you wanted.
**[16:10] Osamu**
Since it's in New-Burg.
**[16:10] Kenji**
Right, that's where we were.
**[16:12] Nakki**
I had quite a few lines...
**[16:18] Nakki**
So I thought I probably needed to practice.
***SIGN*** Special details in the soundtrack
**[16:23] Kenta**
Something that came up early was...
**[16:26] Kenta**
I was asked... by the director,
Kobayashi-san, no less,
**[16:32] Kenta**
to make the music a bit like
an advertisement for Maison book girl.
**[16:37] Megumi**
Like it was promotional?
**[16:38] Osamu**
I specifically wanted the music to sound
**[16:39] Kenta**
You kept asking for it to be more like that.
**[16:40] Osamu**
like something from the band!
**[16:42] Kenta**
For it to sound like Maison book girl.
**[16:44] Osamu**
I wanted it to sound modern.
**[16:46] Kenta**
And well, since that was what you wanted,
**[16:50] Kenta**
I reworked the music.
**[16:52] Osamu**
Right. And then, it was perfect.
**[16:52] Kenta**
And then... Oh, thank you.
**[16:55] Megumi**
In the reworked version of the music,
**[16:57] Megumi**
there's a bit where I'm humming.
**[16:58] Osamu**
Right.
**[16:59] Kenta**
I felt like I'd heard that
melody somewhere before.
**[17:02] Megumi**
Yeah, it's actually a "book girl" song.
**[17:05] Osamu**
I didn't get the feeling
that you were nervous.
**[17:08] Megumi**
Well... I don't think I was.
**[17:11] Osamu**
You're probably used to mics.
**[17:12] Megumi**
Well, y'know, recording vocals
for songs normalizes it for me.
**[17:19] Megumi**
But I wear headphones when I do vocals.
**[17:22] Megumi**
This was just a mic
**[17:24] Megumi**
sitting in front of me.
**[17:26] Osamu**
Right, right.
**[17:26] Megumi**
And I was alone in this huge, well-lit room.
**[17:28] Osamu**
It's a different vibe.
**[17:30] Megumi**
And it felt a lot more
like acting than singing.
**[17:34] Osamu**
Yeah, yeah.
**[17:34] Megumi**
I mean, when it comes to singing,
**[17:36] Megumi**
you're still recording your voice...
**[17:38] Osamu**
Right, right.
**[17:39] Megumi**
But I could tell there was a difference
between reading a script and acting.
***SIGN*** It's in the anime!?
Tales about a "special" location!
**[17:46] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
**[17:51] Osamu**
I think maybe the most unique part
about my episode of Ekoda-chan,
***SIGN*** What's this "New-Burg" place mentioned in the script?
**[17:51] Censor Bar**
Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
**[17:57] Osamu**
is that it features real locations.
**[18:02] Osamu**
That's a bit of an oddity, I think.
**[18:05] Osamu**
Plus, Nakki and Ohken, who are also in it,
**[18:09] Osamu**
have some history with these places.
**[18:12] Osamu**
One example is New-Burg.
**[18:14] Kenji**
Oh, man, New-Burg!
Let me tell you about New-Burg...
**[18:17] Kenji**
I used to go there all the time
when I was younger.
**[18:19] Kenji**
New-Burg is...
**[18:21] Osamu**
Have you—
**[18:21] Nakki**
I went there yesterday.
**[18:23] Osamu**
Really?
**[18:24] Osamu**
The Mexican steak.
**[18:26] Kenji**
Oh, the Mexican!
**[18:27] Osamu**
That's my favorite.
**[18:27] Kenji**
Yeah, yeah! I like the standard, too.
**[18:29] Osamu**
It's so good.
**[18:29] Kenta**
New-Burg came up a lot...
**[18:31] Kenji**
The double, too.
**[18:32] Kenta**
I think I might be the only one
who doesn't know what it is.
**[18:36] Megumi**
I don't, either.
**[18:37] Kenta**
You don't?
**[18:38] Kenta**
Yeah, I didn't think you knew.
**[18:39] Kenji**
We got swept up in the moment!
**[18:41] Kenta**
So could someone explain
what this New-Burg place is?
**[18:45] Kenji**
It's this place in Koenji, near the entrance
to the shopping area on the main street...
**[18:52] Osamu**
If you go down from
the park, it's on the left.
**[18:54] Kenji**
Right.
**[18:54] Kenji**
When I was went regularly,
it was around 380 yen a steak...
**[18:57] Osamu**
Very affordable.
**[18:58] Osamu**
I think it's around 500 now.
**[18:59] Kenta**
Hang on a second. You still haven't—
**[19:01] Megumi**
What kind of place is it?
**[19:02] Everyone**
Oh, it's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
**[19:04] Osamu**
It's "New-Burg" 'cause
it gets new steaks a lot.
**[19:06] Kenji**
Right!
**[19:07] Kenta**
Okay, that wasn't very clear before.
**[19:09] Kenji**
You get some rice on a plate.
**[19:11] Kenta**
Right.
**[19:12] Kenji**
And another plate with a Hamburg
steak, with plenty of sauce on it.
**[19:15] Kenji**
And you get pasta, and mixed vegetables.
**[19:20] Kenji**
And the finishing touch is a fried egg.
**[19:23] Osamu**
Right.
**[19:23] Osamu**
It's so good!
**[19:25] Megumi**
That was the one you appeared in?
**[19:27] Osamu**
Right, the one in Koenji.
**[19:29] Osamu**
It's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
**[19:30] Megumi**
I didn't realize that!
**[19:31] Osamu**
Great steaks.
**[19:31] Megumi**
So that's what kind of place it was.
**[19:33] Kenji**
What was the name of the other place?
***SIGN*** The appearance of Tres Tres in Golden Gai in the anime
**[19:36] Osamu**
Oh, that's a bar called Tres Tres.
**[19:39] Osamu**
It's kind of a rock bar.
**[19:40] Kenji**
Do you have a bottle reserved there?
**[19:42] Nakki**
Oh, no, I don't.
**[19:45] Kenji**
I would've thought...
**[19:46] Nakki**
Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.
**[19:48] Kenji**
I see.
**[19:49] Kenji**
But y'know, it's a tiny place.
**[19:51] Kenji**
So is it the kinda place you just go
and get into conversations?
**[19:55] Megumi**
With people you don't know?
**[19:58] Osamu**
Well, with Tres Tres, it's just the bar.
**[20:02] Osamu**
So when I go, I pick the brains
of the young kids there.
**[20:06] Nakki**
I met the director for "Gamera," Higuchi...
**[20:09] Osamu**
Shin-chan.
**[20:10] Nakki**
Right, at a bar in Golden Gai.
**[20:12] Osamu**
That was at Plastic, though.
**[20:14] Nakki**
Right.
**[20:15] Osamu**
She's doing her best, y'know?
***SIGN*** Regarding women like Ekoda-chan
**[20:18] Osamu**
Do you see yourself in her?
**[20:19] Megumi**
Do I seem like her?
**[20:20] Osamu**
You try your best.
**[20:21] Megumi**
Oh, that part.
**[20:22] Megumi**
I *will* say, she seems like the type
who, even if you go out with her,
**[20:26] Megumi**
you won't end up marrying her.
**[20:29] Osamu**
So you'd love her and leave her?
**[20:32] Megumi**
No, I mean more how she doesn't
say what she really thinks.
**[20:35] Osamu**
Oh, true.
**[20:36] Osamu**
True.
**[20:36] Megumi**
So I get the feeling
**[20:38] Megumi**
she'd be too considerate,
**[20:39] Megumi**
and that'd lead to distance.
***SIGN*** Thoughts on today
**[20:41] Megumi**
Normally, I don't get to talk in a relaxed
environment with all of you like this,
**[20:48] Megumi**
so... this was a lot of fun.
**[20:50] Osamu**
I had so much fun, I got drunk.
**[20:52] Osamu**
Aw, yeah. Getting hammered is fun, yeah.
**[20:56] Kenji**
You know, something that really
shocked me about this shoot...
**[21:03] Kenji**
is the cameras. There's... one...
**[21:05] Kenji**
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine...
**[21:09] Kenji**
Nine cameras!
**[21:10] Osamu**
That's crazy!
**[21:12] Kenji**
This seems more like a one cellphone
camera kind of arrangement!
**[21:15] Kenji**
Nine cameras?!
**[21:16] Osamu**
They could've done it with three!
**[21:17] Kenji**
Nine cameras... for this?!
**[21:19] Megumi**
There're more cameras than people!
**[21:20] Osamu**
I've never seen anything like it!
**[21:22] Osamu**
The heck is up with that? Nine cameras!
**[21:25] Osamu**
I'm really looking forward
to seeing the final video.
**[21:28] Osamu**
Lots of different angles. Just cut, cut, cut...
**[21:30] Nakki**
Right?
**[21:31] Kenta**
Makes you wonder where the cuts will be.
**[21:32] Kenji**
Right?
**[21:33] Kenta**
Should be interesting.
**[21:34] Kenji**
They could make this segment
in 3D with all these angles.
**[21:37] Nakki**
I was kinda focused on the segment, so...
**[21:40] Nakki**
Once the cameras are off,
I'm ready to chow down.
**[21:45] Nakki**
That's all.
**[21:47] Osamu**
So cool!
**[21:50] Kenta**
Well, today, I kind of... have my
doubts about whether I should be here,
**[21:56] Kenta**
considering the caliber
of the other guests.
**[21:59] Osamu**
C'mon, genius! Don't be like that, genius!
**[22:00] Kenta**
But I had a lot of fun being able
to kick back and chat with everyone.
**[22:06] Kenta**
I'd love to do it again. Thanks for having me.
**[22:10] Narrator**
And that's it for this week's round table.
***SIGN*** Next Episode Preview
***SIGN*** Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
***SIGN*** it's the final episode!
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
**[22:18] Pink bubble**
But this is Ekoda-chan, so don't
expect the usual kind of finale.
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:23] Pink bubble**
The director will talk about some unique
difficulties he faced working on Ekoda-chan!
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan's
VA
***SIGN*** Director
**[22:27] Pink bubble**
See you then!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Director:
***SIGN*** Kobayashi Osamu
***SIGN*** On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
***SIGN*** Tales from New-Burg
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Narasaki
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** That's what you said last year.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Music
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Customer (Woman)
***SIGN*** That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
***SIGN*** Customer (Woman)
***SIGN*** Customer (Woman)
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Ohken
***SIGN*** Well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Worker
***SIGN*** A Night for Shoegazing
***SIGN*** Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Nakki
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Narasaki
***SIGN*** Customer (Man)
***SIGN*** Seiji
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Nakki
**[24:58] Ekoda**
Once again,
**[24:58] Ekoda**
I've picked up a worthless guy...
***SIGN*** Customer (Man)
***SIGN*** One Early Afternoon
in Ekoda
***SIGN*** Starring Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Featuring
***SIGN*** Koshoji
***SIGN*** Music By
***SIGN*** Sakurai Kenta
***SIGN*** ...Ekoda-chan...
***SIGN*** who lives in Ekoda
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
# E12
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**[00:01] Ekoda**
Let's see, I'm 24 this year...
**[00:05] Ekoda**
Twenty-four?!
**[00:07] Ekoda**
I had forgotten!
**[00:09] Ekoda**
What the heck? I just remembered the truth!
**[00:15] Ekoda**
Okay, today it's survival through ignorance!
**[00:18] Ekoda**
'Cuz I'm a kid!
**[00:19] Ekoda**
And I don't get it!
**[00:31] Mysterious Guy**
So obnoxious...
**[00:43] Mysterious Guy**
Let's see.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
**[00:55] TV**
*Just get a look at that cutting edge!*
**[00:58] TV**
* It's like the tomato doesn't*
* register being cut!*
**[01:02] Ekoda**
That's ridiculous!
It doesn't know it's been cut?
**[01:05] Ekoda**
As if that could even happen! How stupid!
**[01:09] Ekoda**
Come to think of it,
K-kun hasn't called lately.
**[01:12] Ekoda**
Does that mean I've been
cut off already, too?!
**[01:16] Ekoda**
No, no, it can't be.
**[01:18] Ekoda**
Let's see here...
***SIGN*** Street Corner Interview
**[01:32] News**
* This is Tanaka-san, who raises*
* flowers on her property every year.*
**[01:38] Tanaka**
*I want anyone who passes by to feel better.*
**[01:42] Tanaka**
*It really is beautiful!*
**[01:43] Ekoda**
I get you.
**[01:44] Idols**
*Thanks for talking with us!*
**[01:46] Idols**
* With our cheery singing and dancing,*
* we want to help everyone dream!*
***SIGN*** Street Corner Interview
**[01:49] Idols**
*So we'll sing!*
**[02:40] Ekoda**
You creepy bastard!
**[02:43] Ekoda**
Hey, I've got a bear in my pubes!
**[02:47] Ekoda**
You see it?!
**[03:33] Narrator**
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
***SIGN*** Ten Versions
***SIGN*** Ten People
**[03:37] Narrator**
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** 12 Women
***SIGN*** 12 Versions!?
**[03:43] Narrator**
12 women, 12 versions?!
***SIGN*** Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
**[03:45] Narrator**
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
**[03:49] Narrator**
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
**[03:51] Narrator**
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
**[03:54] Narrator**
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 12: Morimoto Koji,
***SIGN*** Director
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
**[03:59] Narrator**
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tamurapan.
***SIGN*** Playing Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tamurapan
**[04:01] Narrator**
This will be the final discussion segment!
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tamurapan
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Director
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
**[04:04] Narrator**
Get ready for a candid look at the
production of the episode once again.
**[04:08] Narrator**
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
**[04:14] Narrator**
We're baring all for you!
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[04:16] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** After the recording
**[04:16] Koji**
In terms of how it turned out, well...
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Director
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
Tamurapan
**[04:20] Koji**
I was looking forward to it,
**[04:23] Koji**
and when you actually are
present, and things are happening,
**[04:26] Koji**
the process itself can be fun.
**[04:28] Koji**
And it's been a while
since I got to enjoy that.
**[04:31] Koji**
Well, our lead actress tends to get a lot
of amusement out of a variety of things,
**[04:37] Koji**
so I didn't have much to worry about there.
**[04:41] Koji**
If anything, I was more concerned with
how to depict Tamura World effectively.
**[04:46] Koji**
That was more of a concern.
**[04:48] Koji**
I think it was sort of a back-and-forth
about how best to use her performance,
**[04:52] Koji**
whenever the ball was in my possession...
**[04:55] Koji**
She handled the music for the episode, too.
**[04:59] Koji**
And even that back-and-forth
process is enjoyable.
**[05:01] Koji**
You get these chemical reactions that
come from someone else's take on things,
**[05:06] Koji**
and the changes that can result
from that are really interesting.
**[05:09] Koji**
It makes me realize these
projects have a life of their own.
**[05:13] Koji**
It's about when to pull back,
and when to go deeper.
***SIGN*** Project Producer
Hatanaka Taichi
**[05:17] Koji**
I was watching with those things in mind.
**[05:20] Tamura**
It was just a lot of fun.
**[05:22] Tamura**
The thing is... when it comes to Ekoda-chan,
**[05:27] Tamura**
I feel like I understand her a lot.
**[05:30] Tamura**
Like, I get Ekoda-chan.
**[05:33] Tamura**
When the subject first came up
with Director Morimoto,
**[05:37] Tamura**
I told him, "I get Ekoda-chan."
**[05:39] Tamura**
So I was grateful for the chance
to become her today.
**[05:48] Tamura**
And I got to say the kind of things
that you wouldn't normally say
**[05:53] Tamura**
in front of so many people,
and that was liberating.
**[05:57] Koji**
A bit of dirty talk!
**[05:58] Tamura**
Yeah, really!
**[05:59] Tamura**
That was a ton of fun.
**[06:01] Koji**
Like light S&M.
**[06:03] Tamura**
It felt great.
**[06:05] Tamura**
At one point I got a little dazed,
because I had been shouting so much.
**[06:09] Koji**
Sorry about that.
**[06:10] Taichi**
That is a scene with a lot of shouting!
**[06:12] Koji**
That's true.
**[06:12] Tamura**
Really.
**[06:14] Koji**
They're not the kind
of things you'd usually say.
**[06:15] Tamura**
Right, exactly.
**[06:17] Tamura**
They're... I imagine voice
actors have a lot of fun.
**[06:20] Koji**
Right, they get to say things
they normally never would.
**[06:21] Tamura**
And it's like an everyday thing.
**[06:24] Koji**
It's a bit like playing pretend.
**[06:26] Tamura**
Right.
**[06:27] Tamura**
It's really fun.
**[06:28] Tamura**
I mean, it's a scene that wouldn't be
out of place in a normal life,
**[06:32] Tamura**
but the words aren't yours.
**[06:35] Tamura**
They're not even what you would think,
**[06:39] Tamura**
but in a situation that
you would be in, I guess.
**[06:42] Tamura**
That's really interesting.
**[06:44] Koji**
One thing...
**[06:45] Koji**
So you don't have the same
kind of life as Ekoda-chan?
**[06:49] Tamura**
Not this part, no!
**[06:51] Tamura**
Not that.
**[06:54] Tamura**
I don't ever flash anyone, but...
in terms of watching TV?
**[06:59] Koji**
Right, right.
**[07:00] Tamura**
And going, "I feel you." That I understand.
**[07:03] Tamura**
That is definitely something I do.
***SIGN*** Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 12 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
**[07:09] Koji**
They said I could do whatever I wanted.
***SIGN*** Reasons for accepting the offer to work on this?
**[07:09] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
**[07:12] Koji**
And that was the main thing.
**[07:14] Koji**
I was like, "Really?!"
**[07:15] Koji**
I mean, the voice actresses for the lead...
**[07:19] Koji**
All the voice actresses are different,
the music's different.
**[07:23] Koji**
It made me wonder if that's a kind
of project that can actually happen.
**[07:25] Koji**
And that made me interested.
**[07:28] Koji**
I knew a few of the people involved.
**[07:29] Koji**
And I figured if they were in,
I wanted to be, too.
**[07:33] Taichi**
I see.
**[07:34] Taichi**
To be honest, when we told you that
you could do whatever you wanted...
**[07:38] Taichi**
The first thing you came up with—
**[07:39] Koji**
Well, there were too many
things I wasn't allowed to do.
**[07:42] Koji**
I was a bit disappointed!
**[07:44] Koji**
I was like, "What the heck? But you said..."
**[07:45] Taichi**
Sorry about that.
**[07:48] Taichi**
There are other considerations...
**[07:49] Koji**
They were like, "You can't do that.
No, not that either."
**[07:50] Tamura**
That's how it works!
**[07:52] Tamura**
That's usually the facts.
**[07:53] Koji**
I mean, I was like, "But she's naked!"
**[07:56] Tamura**
Earlier there was,
I'm not sure I can say this,
**[07:56] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Questions about what is acceptable and unacceptable for broadcast
**[07:59] Koji**
You mean—?
**[07:59] Tamura**
this real discussion about nipples...
**[08:02] Tamura**
And how much you could show,
and it was this whole debate.
**[08:07] Koji**
I mean, come on, we've all got them.
**[08:10] Koji**
That's what I think. So it looks
unnatural if they're not there.
**[08:14] Koji**
But y'know, that's the kind of
thing that's part of the process.
**[08:17] Koji**
It can be kind of a drag.
**[08:18] Tamura**
It was so funny.
**[08:19] Tamura**
The things that weren't allowed...
**[08:21] Tamura**
Like, where the line is drawn?
That's interesting.
**[08:22] Koji**
The no-gos?
**[08:24] Koji**
What I'm saying is,
who gets to make that call?
**[08:26] Koji**
Well, really just Hatanaka-san.
That's obvious!
**[08:27] Taichi**
Edit that!
**[08:29] Taichi**
We'll edit that later!
**[08:32] Taichi**
We'll make it work!
**[08:32] Koji**
Oh, it's fine.
**[08:34] Koji**
I want to leave that part in.
**[08:37] Taichi**
Well, if you're sure!
**[08:39] Tamura**
But the first person who says no,
**[08:41] Koji**
Right. But, y'know...
**[08:41] Tamura**
I think that probably means that it's
fundamentally a problem on some level, right?
**[08:45] Taichi**
Exactly.
**[08:46] Koji**
I mean, maybe it's not socially acceptable.
**[08:48] Tamura**
For anime.
**[08:49] Koji**
But this is on late at night.
**[08:51] Tamura**
Right! I get what you mean.
**[08:51] Koji**
That's the thing! I'd understand
if it was on during prime time...
**[08:55] Tamura**
That totally makes sense.
**[08:56] Koji**
Right?
**[08:57] Koji**
I mean, kids might see it then...
**[09:01] Koji**
But when it's a time slot
that's on late at night,
**[09:04] Tamura**
Right.
**[09:04] Koji**
it's not like elementary school
kids are going to be watching.
**[09:06] Tamura**
But I think, with really little kids,
they'd probably still be close to their moms.
**[09:12] Tamura**
So I doubt they'd end up seeing it anyway.
**[09:14] Koji**
Right. Not what you'd expect.
**[09:16] Koji**
I was trying to avoid certain... techniques?
**[09:16] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Difficulties in production
**[09:21] Koji**
I guess I did use those, but I wanted
to do something different, too.
**[09:25] Koji**
When I was putting this together.
**[09:29] Koji**
It's kind of like... as an animator,
and as a key animator,
**[09:34] Koji**
I wanted to enjoy the kind of things that the
director doesn't normally handle personally.
**[09:39] Koji**
And I hope people notice those parts.
**[09:41] Taichi**
Are there any particular scenes
you paid close attention to?
**[09:43] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Scenes the Director paid special attention to
**[09:44] Koji**
I think the song.
**[09:47] Taichi**
Ah, the song.
**[09:49] Koji**
I figured that it has to land right.
**[09:51] Tamura**
I'm looking forward to the finished version!
**[09:51] Koji**
It's kind of a focal point.
**[09:53] Taichi**
It's carrying a lot of weight
for the episode as a whole.
**[09:55] Koji**
Right, exactly.
**[09:56] Koji**
I spent a lot of time on it.
**[09:59] Tamura**
A lot of focus.
**[09:59] Koji**
It felt like I was leaning hard on myself.
**[10:01] Tamura**
A lot of time and care...
**[10:03] Koji**
Nah, I wouldn't make it sound so severe.
**[10:03] Tamura**
All that effort and sweat...
**[10:06] Koji**
I'll hold it together.
**[10:09] Tamura**
I think what I was imagining...
**[10:09] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** First impressions when reading the script
**[10:12] Tamura**
The sort of feeling of the world?
**[10:16] Tamura**
I had been filled in on the kind of
atmosphere we were going for,
**[10:19] Tamura**
but then actually being able to...
**[10:23] Tamura**
Take the scene I was imagining,
and then put specific lines into it?
**[10:29] Tamura**
How do I put this...?
**[10:31] Tamura**
It made it suddenly feel a lot more real.
**[10:37] Tamura**
At first, there's no sound or anything...
**[10:40] Tamura**
Just a script, so you think
of all the ways it could go.
**[10:46] Tamura**
It sort of feels otherworldly in a way,
**[10:51] Tamura**
but it gradually becomes more tangible,
**[10:54] Tamura**
and something about the normal stuff...
**[10:56] Tamura**
It makes me realize how otherworldly
stories and commonplace stories
**[11:00] Tamura**
are connected by certain things.
**[11:03] Tamura**
That's something I thought.
**[11:05] Tamura**
And that the things they have in
common are simpler than you'd think.
**[11:09] Tamura**
That was something that came
to mind as I was reading it.
**[11:13] Tamura**
I think the one that left the big
impression was from the climax...
**[11:13] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Lines that made an impression
**[11:19] Tamura**
Where I talked about pubic hair.
**[11:23] Tamura**
That's not something you usually
say in front of so many people.
**[11:26] Koji**
Right.
**[11:30] Koji**
It's the kind of thing, as an elementary schooler, where you have to break out the dictionary...
**[11:33] Tamura**
Yeah, exactly!
**[11:34] Tamura**
You're right! When you're little, it's sort of...
**[11:35] Koji**
Right?
**[11:37] Koji**
"What are these characters?"
**[11:38] Tamura**
You're like, "What is this?"
**[11:40] Koji**
And there's a bit of a thrill to that.
**[11:42] Koji**
That was part of the scene.
**[11:42] Tamura**
Right, right.
**[11:44] Tamura**
I think that most of the time,
you say that in particular...
**[11:49] Tamura**
And it comes out more relaxed.
Whenever you talk about pubic hair.
**[11:51] Koji**
Right.
**[11:52] Tamura**
But it was like, "Pubes!"
**[11:57] Koji**
It's because she's yelling it.
**[11:58] Tamura**
Right. And it feels fantastic.
**[12:01] Tamura**
That made a big impression.
**[12:04] Taichi**
Did it feel good to say?
**[12:06] Tamura**
It felt amazing!
**[12:09] Tamura**
I recommend everybody try it.
**[12:12] Taichi**
In the safety of your own home,
shout how you keep a bear in your pubic hair.
**[12:13] Tamura**
Bingo!
**[12:15] Tamura**
I recommend it highly.
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Tamurapan
***SIGN*** Episode 12's Director
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
**[12:23] Narrator**
In the first half, we discussed the unique
challenges of the Ekoda-chan anime.
**[12:28] Narrator**
In the second, we'll be hearing stories
from when they were 24, like Ekoda-chan,
**[12:32] Narrator**
along with their in-depth thoughts
on the appeal of Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan anime.
***SIGN*** Reflecting on Age 24
**[12:44] Koji**
That would've been
right before I got married...
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
**[12:44] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** When you were 24
**[12:47] Tamura**
So young! Wow.
**[12:50] Koji**
I think I preferred being with
someone to being alone, essentially.
**[12:55] Koji**
I've got a real craving
for affection, I think,
**[12:59] Koji**
and I think as a result of that,
I've never felt a lot of profound loneliness.
**[13:04] Tamura**
Because you know you don't
want to be lonely, you avoid it?
**[13:06] Koji**
Right, right.
**[13:07] Koji**
Sort of the opposite of what you'd expect.
**[13:08] Tamura**
That's an interesting way to turn out.
**[13:09] Koji**
I really cherished my friendships,
for example,
**[13:14] Koji**
or maybe that I just pursued
them aggressively.
**[13:20] Koji**
But even when I was on my own,
when I moved to Tokyo for example,
**[13:25] Koji**
I didn't really feel that lonely.
**[13:29] Koji**
That might not make a lot of sense.
**[13:32] Koji**
And I don't really understand it all myself,
**[13:35] Koji**
but I think I wasn't really
in a rush when I was 24.
**[13:39] Koji**
This was something we discussed earlier,
because of how the episode opens.
**[13:44] Koji**
I didn't ever have that feeling
of getting left behind.
**[13:49] Tamura**
Yours was more, "I'm *only* 24."
**[13:50] Koji**
Plenty of time.
**[13:52] Tamura**
Positive thinking!
**[13:53] Koji**
Right, right!
**[13:54] Koji**
Realizing that, "Oh, I guess some people
feel a lot of pressure around then."
**[13:59] Koji**
I think maybe women are
under more stress about it.
**[14:01] Koji**
I don't think men really experience
the same expectations... not that I'm sure.
**[14:05] Koji**
I mean, maybe in regards to employment.
**[14:08] Tamura**
Right, got to get a job.
**[14:08] Koji**
But other than that? 24 isn't much.
**[14:12] Tamura**
I was... I think two years since
I was out from university.
**[14:19] Tamura**
I wasn't even Tamurapan at the time, yet.
**[14:23] Koji**
Really?
**[14:24] Tamura**
I think so. Maybe I was on the
verge of discovering that identity...
**[14:28] Tamura**
Like I could feel it coming on.
**[14:29] Koji**
Maybe just the "Tamu" part.
**[14:32] Tamura**
Just the "Tamu."
**[14:34] Koji**
The "Rapan" part hadn't emerged yet.
**[14:34] Tamura**
Right. Not quite the full Tamurapan yet.
**[14:37] Tamura**
Sort of like I was still growing into myself.
**[14:45] Tamura**
I wonder... In terms of how lonely I felt,
**[14:52] Tamura**
I think I would say I'm more...
**[14:56] Tamura**
I'm one of those people who feels
lonelier the more people they deal with?
**[15:02] Koji**
Right, right.
**[15:02] Tamura**
Like, if you see someone, that's fine,
but even when there are people around...
**[15:10] Tamura**
You start thinking about how
it is when they're not around.
**[15:12] Koji**
You pull away mentally.
**[15:13] Tamura**
Right, you pull yourself
further and further out!
**[15:16] Tamura**
I think that's how I was at
the time, when I was 24.
**[15:21] Tamura**
Although that part hasn't changed much.
**[15:22] Koji**
Were you in much of a rush?
**[15:23] Koji**
Or under pressure.
**[15:23] Tamura**
A rush...
**[15:24] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Did she feel pressured?
**[15:26] Tamura**
Did I? I do think that I felt like
I had to do *something*.
**[15:31] Tamura**
But when I look back now,
**[15:35] Tamura**
I felt strangely fine in a way
I didn't quite understand.
**[15:39] Tamura**
I can remember feeling that way.
**[15:41] Tamura**
That's what I remember about being 24.
**[15:44] Tamura**
Although now that I look back...
**[15:46] Koji**
But in that sense, maybe
the two of you are similar.
**[15:48] Tamura**
You mean in terms of,
"What do I do, what do I do?"
**[15:52] Tamura**
But actually kind of brushing it off...
**[15:58] Koji**
You do have the whole world going,
**[16:00] Koji**
"Do you know what you
want to do? Better find out!"
**[16:03] Koji**
And they make it sound like you
might be in trouble if you can't.
**[16:08] Koji**
Right?
**[16:09] Tamura**
I think so.
**[16:10] Tamura**
Well, even then, I think I was fairly happy.
**[16:15] Tamura**
When it comes down to it.
**[16:16] Koji**
In spite of it all.
**[16:17] Koji**
Even with all the trouble. Right.
***SIGN*** Things you'd want to do if you were Ekoda-chan
**[16:19] ---**
Morimoto Koji
**[16:20] Taichi**
If you were Ekoda-chan...
**[16:20] Tamura**
I... wouldn't want to be Ekoda-chan, though.
**[16:25] Tamura**
I mean, she has it hard!
**[16:26] Koji**
That's a real pickle.
**[16:27] Tamura**
Something about how lonely
she is, on top of everything else.
**[16:34] Tamura**
And if I was her... well...
**[16:38] Koji**
I'd be more curious about
how you end up like her.
**[16:44] Tamura**
Good question.
**[16:45] Koji**
Maybe it has to do with
how we had specific ambitions.
**[16:50] Tamura**
Oh, that is a good point.
**[16:50] Koji**
That might be it..
**[16:53] Koji**
Like for example, if you're like,
"I'm gonna make anime!"
**[16:56] Tamura**
Right, you've got a point.
**[16:58] Koji**
I decided I wanted to be an
animator in high school.
**[17:00] Koji**
And in that sense, I never
really faltered, so maybe...
**[17:06] Koji**
Since I never really had to worry about
things that didn't work out in the end.
**[17:12] Tamura**
Oh, right. That's true.
**[17:15] Tamura**
Not having a right fit...
**[17:15] Koji**
I think that maybe it has to do with
having a lot of potential interests.
**[17:21] Koji**
It means there there are lots of lives
where you might end up like that.
**[17:25] Koji**
Like, "What if I had become a florist?"
**[17:28] Koji**
"What would have happened
if I became a baker?" and such.
**[17:31] Koji**
You do always have that
curiosity where you wonder
**[17:34] Koji**
about how you'd end up
in different circumstances.
**[17:36] Koji**
I think everybody does.
**[17:39] Koji**
Especially if you've already
settled into one choice.
**[17:39] Tamura**
Right.
**[17:41] Koji**
You end up wondering what it would've
been like doing something else.
**[17:44] Koji**
That's part of it, I think.
**[17:47] Tamura**
I think Ekoda-chan's...
psychology, I guess you'd call it,
**[17:52] Tamura**
I wouldn't want that.
**[17:53] Koji**
It'd definitely be hard.
**[17:56] Taichi**
And painful, even.
**[17:56] Tamura**
It would.
**[17:57] Tamura**
It might be hard to withstand.
**[17:58] Koji**
Not the kind of thing you'd
want to play around with.
***SIGN*** What makes Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan unique?
**[18:06] Koji**
The different directors, for each episode...
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
***SIGN*** Differences with other anime
**[18:06] Censor Bar**
Morimoto Koji
**[18:10] Koji**
Plus the different actresses for the
lead role. And different art styles.
**[18:14] Koji**
I don't think there's ever been an anime
like that, and it's pretty interesting.
**[18:19] Tamura**
I think that with most anime,
**[18:21] Tamura**
there's a sort of destination in mind.
**[18:28] Tamura**
And because of that sort of security,
**[18:30] Tamura**
you can watch all the trials and tribulations.
**[18:33] Tamura**
Like how a character from Chibi
Maruko can walk three thousand miles.
**[18:36] Koji**
Because she won't die.
**[18:37] Tamura**
Right, definitely!
**[18:38] Taichi**
Since she's got the goal of
meeting her mom or whatever.
**[18:39] Tamura**
Exactly.
**[18:40] Koji**
And you're not going to see a story where
she dies right before the finish line.
**[18:44] Tamura**
In comparison, Ekoda-chan...
**[18:46] Tamura**
You can't tell what'll happen, and that's...
***SIGN*** Ekoda-chan doesn't have a goal
**[18:46] ---**
Morimoto Koji
**[18:50] Tamura**
And that's kind of strange, for anime, I think.
**[18:53] Koji**
True.
**[18:56] Koji**
You get the feeling she's kind
of wandering the wasteland.
**[18:57] Tamura**
Right.
**[18:58] Taichi**
She's got no goal, is the thing.
Ekoda-chan doesn't have an ultimate goal.
**[19:01] Tamura**
And isn't that kind of terrifying?
**[19:04] Koji**
But a good thing about that is
it makes her really flexible.
**[19:06] Tamura**
You mean she can adapt?
**[19:08] Koji**
I think part of it is she has
to be, because it's funny.
**[19:13] Tamura**
Like, she wouldn't manage otherwise?
**[19:14] Koji**
I think that's how the world is.
But even then, she is awkward at times.
**[19:17] Koji**
Or maybe more like... she's got
certain things she won't budge on.
**[19:21] Koji**
Her own sort of code.
**[19:24] Koji**
And that's part of what's
interesting about her.
**[19:26] ---**
Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** The appeal of Ekoda-chan
**[19:26] Koji**
Well, I am a man, and so...
**[19:29] Koji**
I think that you'd need to
be a woman to get a full grasp
**[19:32] Koji**
of what's truly great about Ekoda-chan.
**[19:36] Koji**
But I think... I think a man's idea of...
**[19:41] Koji**
How do I put this? There's
the femininity that men think of,
**[19:44] Koji**
and the femininity that women experience.
**[19:47] Koji**
And the manga really gets across
that idea of, "Oh, that's how it is?"
**[19:52] Koji**
And I think that reading about
that is really interesting,
**[19:56] Koji**
and helps you get a glimpse of something
you'd never encounter otherwise.
**[20:01] Koji**
I think part of it is a lot of the adaptations
I've worked have been by male creators,
**[20:07] Koji**
so doing one drawn by a woman...
**[20:11] Koji**
Is something that I think maybe helped me
do something different from my usual work.
**[20:18] Tamura**
I wonder if you'd call it love?
There's this certain love...
**[20:23] Tamura**
Or maybe the emotion is more like sympathy.
**[20:27] Tamura**
Or that the love is for the setting instead...
**[20:31] Tamura**
That love... or maybe it's
a different emotion entirely.
**[20:36] Koji**
There are a lot of different kinds of love.
**[20:38] Tamura**
I'd say so! She does have her love affairs.
**[20:41] Koji**
I see.
**[20:42] Koji**
You see the love affairs she has.
**[20:44] Koji**
But... I think there's also this...
**[20:44] Koji**
Right.
**[20:48] Tamura**
You can see how deep her love goes.
**[20:52] Tamura**
That was something I thought
from the first moment I saw her.
**[20:54] Koji**
True.
**[20:56] Koji**
Well, now that we've recorded the voices today,
and it's starting to come together.
***SIGN*** Thoughts on Today
**[20:57] ---**
Morimoto Koji
**[21:03] Koji**
But there's still animation to do,
**[21:06] Koji**
so I'm going to keep working.
**[21:08] Koji**
And with that in mind, well,
this gave me a few ideas, too.
**[21:13] Koji**
So I think I'm going to come out
of this with a few upgrades.
**[21:18] Koji**
And then you'll see those in
the final product. I hope you like it.
**[21:22] Tamura**
It really was a lot of fun,
**[21:26] Tamura**
and that... working with the director today,
**[21:31] Tamura**
the thought of that adding
even more to the final version
**[21:34] Tamura**
seems like it'd be really interesting.
**[21:37] Tamura**
So that, this day in Ekoda-chan's life...
**[21:41] Tamura**
Was kinda... the feeling that it
was born out of our own lives,
**[21:48] Tamura**
I think that's something to be glad about.
**[21:51] Tamura**
It feels like we helped bring something
to life, and that's a real treat.
**[21:56] Taichi**
Thanks for coming.
**[21:57] Tamura**
Of course.
**[21:57] Koji**
Thanks for having us.
***SIGN*** Daichi Akitaro
**[22:01] Narrator**
And that brings a close to the Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat.
***SIGN*** Sugii
Gisaburo
***SIGN*** Shigino Akira
**[22:06] Narrator**
A new Ekoda-chan, born from
each of the twelve episodes.
***SIGN*** Mochizuki
Tomomi
***SIGN*** Yonetani
Yoshitomo
**[22:10] Narrator**
Which Ekoda-chan was closest to your type?
***SIGN*** Takahashi
Ryosuke
***SIGN*** Misawa Shin
**[22:15] Narrator**
You know, there may be an Ekoda-chan
in your life, that you're just not aware of.
***SIGN*** Kojima
Masayuki
***SIGN*** Takahashi Takeo
***SIGN*** Nagahama Hiroshi
**[22:21] Narrator**
Thanks for staying with us to the end!
***SIGN*** Kobayashi
Osamu
**[22:25] Narrator**
Until we meet again!
***SIGN*** Morimoto Koji
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** The Director and Ekoda -chan's
***SIGN*** Naked Chat
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
***SIGN*** Until she's ready
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
**[22:36] ---**
#1 Ekoda-chan
**[23:23] ---**
#2 Wall
**[24:20] ---**
#3 Bookshelves
**[24:54] ---**
#4 Table
***SIGN*** Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan