Season 1
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SIGN Of
SIGN Marr-
iage
SIGN Age
[00:01] Ekoda
The name's Ekoda-chan. I'm 24 and
looking for love and a better life.
SIGN Of
SIGN Marr-
iage
SIGN Age
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Episode 1
[00:05] Ekoda
To the Ekoda-chan fans looking forward to
this third adaptation, and to all our viewers,
[00:08] Ekoda
I say welcome. Ekoda-chan, at your service.
[00:11] Ekoda
I live in the Ekoda neighborhood
of Nerima, Tokyo. Hence the name.
[00:16] Ekoda
I'm 24, single, and a career butterfly.
[00:18] Ekoda
Wanna hear about my
secret bachelorette life?
[00:21] Ekoda
You might be asking yourself:
"Why is this chick naked?"
[00:23] Ekoda
Oof...
[00:23] Ekoda
Saves a lot of time
and money on laundry.
[00:25] Narrator
What does a girl like
Ekoda-chan worry about?
[00:27] Ekoda
I'm worried I look older than my years.
[00:29] Ekoda
When I was 19...
SIGN The bar where she
worked at the time
[00:30] Customer
You're, what, 29?
[00:32] Ekoda
...he said.
[00:33] Ekoda
Since then, people have always assumed
I'm at least three years older than I am.
SIGN Daytime job
co-worker
[00:35] Coworker
Wait, you're 24?!
SIGN Daytime job
co-worker
[00:37] Ekoda
It's gotten to the point where
I don't know what to believe.
[00:39] Ekoda
There's this ex-cop who frequents
the club I work at, who told me I was 35...
[00:43] Cop
Quit lying to me! There's no way
you're 24 with a face like that!
[00:47] Ekoda
It's an interrogation.
[00:48] Cop
I know what I'm talking about!
[00:49] Ekoda
So he says.
[00:50] Ekoda
You've probably figured this out by now, but
I work a lot of night jobs. 'Cause I'm flat broke.
[00:54] Ekoda
But I've got a huge problem:
I'm terrible with faces.
SIGN Glasses
+
Balding
SIGN Glasses
+
Fat
SIGN Glasses
[00:57] Ekoda
I tried matching names to seats.
[00:59] Ekoda
From left to right:
Nishida, Takahashi, Fujino.
SIGN Nishida
SIGN Takahashi
SIGN Fujino
[01:02] Ekoda
But when I got back from the
bathroom, they'd shuffled around.
[01:05] Ekoda
Oh, and I've completely
forgotten their names.
[01:07] Ekoda
To all you suits out there: Please
try to show a bit more individuality.
[01:12] Ekoda
I found a lizard in my place.
[01:14] Ekoda
Urgh! The thought of it crawling
up inside me is freaking me out!
[01:16] Ekoda
Since there was no one around to
save me, I decided to capture it myself.
SIGN Bowl
SIGN Piece
of paper
[01:20] Ekoda
After an epic 20-minute
battle, I emerged victorious.
[01:23] Ekoda
I wonder what it's like to have a pet...
[01:27] Ekoda
This old lady suddenly started
bawling on my morning commute.
[01:30] Ekoda
She let out a wail, then
buried her face in her hands.
[01:32] Ekoda
Everyone was shooting her furtive glances
while pretending nothing was happening.
[01:36] Narrator
And yet, Ekoda-chan also acted
like nothing was happening.
[01:39] Ekoda
This is kinda sick.
[01:40] Ekoda
So that's what happened.
[01:41] Boyfriend
Huh.
[01:42] Ekoda
When stuff like that happens,
the way we just pretend not to notice...
[01:45] Ekoda
I mean, isn't society weird?
[01:47] Boyfriend
Maybe her husband was cheating on her.
[01:49] Ekoda
That's not what I was getting at.
[01:51] Ekoda
Just another example of how much
gets lost in communication.
[01:55] Ekoda
At the club...
[01:56] Ekoda
Welcome! Let me join you.
[01:58] Ekoda
I take my seat and...
[01:59] Goon
Y'know, I'm kind of a big deal in Shinjuku.
[02:02] Goon
This club, that girl, and that one
too, and that waiter over there...
[02:05] Goon
Everyone calls me -san!
[02:08] Ekoda
Oh, wow.
SIGN You're freakin'
delusional
[02:09] Ekoda
You're freakin' delusional.
SIGN You're freakin'
delusional
SIGN You're freakin'
delusional
SIGN You're freakin'
delusional
[02:10] Ekoda
The only thing that can replenish me
after working all day and night...
SIGN Stopped
SIGN menstruating
SIGN because
SIGN too overworked
SIGN Dog
[02:15] Ekoda
...is a dog.
[02:16] Ekoda
Dosukoi!
SIGN Warning:
This isn't her dog
[02:18] Ekoda
I've been visiting my favorite dog lately.
[02:20] Boyfriend
You have a favorite dog?
[02:24] Ekoda
I headed home for the first time in a while.
SIGN Roughly here
[02:25] Friend
It's been so long!
SIGN High School Friend
SIGN Her
Husband
[02:27] Ekoda
Oh, you got married?
[02:28] Friend
Yeah!
[02:28] Ekoda
It's the kinda town where you bump into
old friends on your way to the Jysko store.
[02:32] Ekoda
It really has been a long time.
[02:33] Friend
So where are your kids?
[02:34] Ekoda
Don't have any. No husband, either.
[02:36] Friend
I haven't seen you in ages!
I've started plucking my eyebrows.
[02:39] Ekoda
Time flows faster out in the sticks.
I feel like an inverse Urashima Taro.
[02:42] Boyfriend
So you visited your parents?
[02:43] Ekoda
Yeah.
[02:44] Boyfriend
What kinda stuff did you do?
[02:45] Ekoda
They wanted me to help
out with the family business,
[02:47] Ekoda
so I stuck some cattle on a truck
and headed down the highway,
[02:50] Ekoda
but a ton of horsehair
crabs had come ashore,
[02:52] Ekoda
and I ended up having to run
them all over. It was a trip.
[02:56] Boyfriend
For real? What a waste of crab meat.
[02:58] Ekoda
He actually believed me?
[03:32] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
SIGN 12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
SIGN we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode,
SIGN and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
SIGN Today, we unveil the director behind episode one: Daichi Akitaro,
SIGN Director
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN and Ekoda-chan's VA: Ishida Haruka-san!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ishida Haruka
SIGN In this episode, we'll learn about the production process,
SIGN Episode 1's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ishida Haruka
SIGN Episode 1's Director
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
[04:04] Narrator
and former idol, Ishida-san,
shares some stories with us.
[04:07] Narrator
Up close and personal!
[04:09] ---
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN You mentioned before the recording that
you don't usually take jobs like this...?
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[04:18] Director
It's a 12-episode series and there's
a different director every episode.
SIGN Episode 1's Ekoda-san
Ishida Haruka
SIGN Episode 1's Director
Daichi Akitaro
[04:22] Director
I've done a few shows like this before.
[04:25] Director
But none of them did very well.
[04:27] Director
There's another reason...
and it's just personal taste,
[04:33] Director
but I've worked on full
series for so long now...
[04:36] Director
that I feel like I have to work on
at least six episodes of a show, you know?
[04:39] Director
Otherwise, I have trouble
even remembering them.
[04:42] Director
That's why, the idea of a show
with so much source material,
[04:44] Director
slated for a 12-episode run...
[04:45] Director
It made me think, "Why just
the one episode?!" you know?
[04:48] Director
So all that was going on
in my head coming into this.
[04:50] Director
When I worked on shows
with a similar format before,
[04:52] Director
not knowing how things would
turn out in future episodes...
[04:55] Director
It was really... Well, when I'd done
my bit, I still felt really frustrated.
[05:00] Director
Because of that, to be honest,
I had half a mind to turn down the gig,
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[05:05] Director
but since it was Kataoka-san asking...
SIGN And 'cause he'd been working on it for so long, I felt I had to pitch in.
[05:11] Kataoka
I remember asking you
about it 12 years ago.
[05:14] Kataoka
And at the time,
you said, "Sure, I'll do it!"
[05:17] Kataoka
So I figured you couldn't turn me
down when the time actually came.
[05:20] Question
Was there anything about Ekoda-chan's
lifestyle that you could relate to?
[05:20] Ishida
I think the fact that we're
the same age was a big factor.
[05:25] Director
Oh, yeah, you two are the same age.
[05:26] Ishida
Yep, we're both the same age.
[05:27] Ishida
We're both... We're both 24.
[05:29] Ishida
Oh, and another thing...
I actually have a pet lizard.
[05:33] Ishida
So that's a big difference between
me and her, I'd say. Other than that...
[05:36] Director
She was worried it would
crawl up inside her.
[05:38] Ishida
You've got a point!
[05:40] Ishida
If that was me, I don't think I'd mind.
[05:42] Director
Yeah?
[05:42] Ishida
As long as it was just
in my ear or something.
[05:46] Director
Awesome.
[05:48] Ishida
In recording, they really... Well, they
basically let me do whatever I wanted.
[05:54] Ishida
And afterwards, bit by bit, we drilled
down into what worked and what didn't,
[05:58] Ishida
and I think, together, we came up
with my own version of Ekoda-chan,
[06:02] Ishida
with the help of everyone
else in the booth.
[06:05] Ishida
I'm really glad we had
so much fun doing it.
[06:09] Kataoka
Daichi-san, is there anything in particular
that stands out about Ekoda-chan's lifestyle?
[06:14] Kataoka
Or anything you can relate to?
[06:16] Daichi
For me... Not one bit of it.
[06:18] Daichi
For one thing, I'm a man.
[06:19] Kataoka
That's true.
[06:20] Daichi
One thing in particular
I really don't get is, like...
[06:24] Daichi
Why Ekoda? You know what I mean?
[06:27] Daichi
I mean, when I think about Ekoda, there's
this subculture vibe surrounding her,
[06:32] Daichi
but she's... she's not really what
you'd call "alternative," is she?
[06:36] Daichi
And the manga doesn't
scream "alternative," either.
[06:39] Daichi
So I honestly don't know
how that works, exactly.
[06:43] Daichi
I mean... If this was a title
I was doing lots of work on,
[06:46] Daichi
that's something I'd explore in depth.
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 1 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[06:54] Daichi
It was kind of convenient having
the star cast so far in advance.
SIGN Ishida Haruka was cast as Ekoda-chan
the moment the project was green-lit.
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
[07:00] Kataoka
I see.
[07:01] Daichi
"We're halfway there," I thought.
[07:02] Daichi
I think the first time
we worked together,
[07:04] Daichi
it was on "Poyopoyo,"
another short-form series.
[07:08] Daichi
That was another anime
based on a 4-koma manga.
[07:13] Daichi
And she was just...
well, an extra, really.
[07:15] Ishida
I really was! I had,
like, two lines, tops.
[07:18] Daichi
Seriously?
[07:18] Ishida
Yeah, that was all.
[07:19] Daichi
But in spite of that, she
made a strong impression...
[07:24] Kataoka
That's impressive.
[07:24] Daichi
She had something, you know?
[07:26] Daichi
And it's like... I know how this sounds,
but it's not like her performance was stellar.
[07:29] Ishida
Yeah, I understand.
[07:30] Daichi
Like, her reading didn't
knock my socks off,
[07:32] Daichi
but there was something
about it that appealed to me.
[07:35] Daichi
It's the kind of thing that makes me
think, and I wonder this all the time,
[07:37] Daichi
but what exactly makes a good VA?
[07:40] Daichi
Like, how do you make that distinction?
[07:43] Daichi
So from that point on, ping! Ishida
Haruka's cadence was lodged in my brain.
[07:49] Daichi
And it stayed there.
I didn't want to get rid of it.
[07:51] Daichi
So the question became,
"Well, what kind of voice did she have?"
[07:55] Daichi
And after that, I watched you
on YouTube, and started thinking:
[07:59] Daichi
"Yeah, she'd be absolutely
perfect for something like this."
[08:03] Daichi
So then, we met up. We had a meeting.
[08:07] Daichi
We hadn't seen each other in a bit.
[08:07] Ishida
It was our first meeting for a while.
[08:09] Daichi
And it was the only chance
we'd had to talk at the time.
[08:13] Daichi
So I wanted to meet up with her
and see if we could work something out.
[08:17] Daichi
I told her about the kind
of role it was going to be,
[08:22] Daichi
and then, sat at that table,
I asked her to do a quick reading.
[08:26] Ishida
That's right! Out of nowhere.
[08:27] Daichi
I did a voice memo. On my iPhone.
[08:29] Ishida
Yeah. Yeah.
[08:31] Daichi
It was then that I was like,
"That was even cuter than I remembered."
[08:35] Ishida
Yeah, it turned out really cute.
[08:36] Daichi
It was.
[08:38] Daichi
But that was the Ekoda-chan
I wanted. I was satisfied.
[08:42] Daichi
It was at that moment that I decided
Ishida Haruka-san was right for the role.
[08:46] Daichi
I didn't have any other questions.
[08:48] Daichi
It was a bit like that today, too,
where I gave some feedback
[08:53] Daichi
just to sort of polish
up the performance.
[08:56] Kataoka
Something I like about
Daichi-san's projects
SIGN Things Director Daichi is particular
about when working on anime
[08:58] Kataoka
is how they have
a real sense of rhythm.
[09:01] Kataoka
Everything has such a nice flow.
[09:03] Daichi
You make an excellent point.
[09:05] Daichi
It's about timing, y'know?
[09:06] Kataoka
Right, the pacing.
[09:07] Daichi
They say that how you pace
things sets the rhythm.
[09:10] Daichi
But it's about more than just keeping
things moving at a good tempo.
[09:14] Daichi
When it comes to timing,
you need quiet moments, too.
[09:16] Daichi
Just... That kind of pause.
[09:19] Daichi
And if you don't use breaks in the
dialog and action like that sparingly,
[09:23] Daichi
the scene won't be the
least bit funny or touching.
[09:28] Daichi
So timing is important.
[09:29] Kataoka
From what I saw today,
you nailed it.
[09:31] Daichi
Yeah, we tried our best.
[09:34] Kataoka
There were scenes where I realized,
if it lasted too long, it would drag.
[09:39] Kataoka
And there were bits where
you could speed things up,
[09:41] Kataoka
but you had to take extra care
to make sure every beat landed.
[09:46] Daichi
Yeah. It's all about
timing and... inflection.
[09:50] Ishida
Yeah, with inflection...
[09:52] Daichi
So it's like, every line boils down
to its punctuation and its inflection.
[09:58] Daichi
They're two sides of the same coin.
[10:00] Daichi
So I'm a stickler when it comes
to getting the right inflection.
[10:04] Daichi
Since this is a short-form series,
and I'm only on the one episode,
SIGN Did the short format of the show
help you accomplish any specific goals?
[10:07] Daichi
I wanted to put my mark on it.
[10:09] Daichi
So, ultimately, what I wanted
to do boiled down to...
[10:12] Daichi
and this really gets back to how I'd
intended to turn down the offer at first,
[10:17] Daichi
but when Kataoka-san asked
if I wanted to do it...
[10:22] Daichi
I thought: "If I'm going to do this,
how am I gonna do it?"
[10:25] Daichi
I mean, throwing yourself into
something is good and all,
[10:28] Daichi
but the most important
thing is to have fun.
[10:30] Daichi
So we booked the studio
for two hours today,
[10:33] Daichi
and we made full use of it.
[10:34] Ishida
Right. We did.
[10:36] Kataoka
It was over pretty fast, though.
[10:37] Kataoka
I'm sorry there wasn't any more time.
[10:39] Daichi
No, no, it's fine.
[10:40] Daichi
And since we finished up with
about four minutes to spare,
[10:42] Daichi
we considered doing
another take of a scene.
[10:44] Daichi
That kind of thing is always fun.
[10:46] Daichi
Then, it was like,
"And we're out of time."
[10:48] Daichi
And we had to cut it.
[10:50] Daichi
But being able to do things like that,
and having a whale of a time...
[10:53] Daichi
One other thing I wanted to make
sure I did, since it's a short,
[10:55] Daichi
was to finish editing everything in about
an hour, and then, listen to the final product.
[11:00] Ishida
Right. It was great,
hearing the final thing.
[11:02] Daichi
When you're working on a series,
that kind of thing is usually impossible.
[11:06] Daichi
But getting the chance
to do that here was great.
[11:08] Daichi
We all got to laugh at it,
all of us together.
[11:12] Ishida
It was very funny.
[11:12] Daichi
Right?
[11:14] Daichi
The thing about
Ekoda-chan as a manga
SIGN On the depth of the original "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga
[11:17] Daichi
is the more you read it,
the more it sort of surprises you.
[11:22] Daichi
It's got real depth to it. It's difficult
to even figure out what genre it is.
[11:25] Daichi
I mean, it's not exactly a comedy.
[11:27] Daichi
It isn't really slice-of-life, either.
[11:28] Daichi
That's the thing about "Rinshi!!
Ekoda-chan." It transcends genres.
[11:32] Daichi
"Rinshi" – living on the edge –
sums it up nicely.
[11:35] Daichi
Yeah, there's.... There's a lot to it.
[11:37] Daichi
The serialization's come to an end now,
but it never really lost its way.
[11:41] Daichi
Like, at the very end, same as in
this episode, her boyfriend shows up.
[11:45] Daichi
He was there all the way through.
[11:46] Kataoka
Right, right...
[11:47] Daichi
It stayed solid.
[11:49] Daichi
But over time, new characters
gradually got added to the cast list.
[11:54] Daichi
And the thematic stuff,
and the presentation...
[11:58] Daichi
The title ended without ever losing
any of its characteristic traits.
SIGN In the director's view, what is "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" about?
[12:03] Daichi
Each strip reflects something
personal about the artist.
[12:08] Daichi
I might not always
know exactly what it is,
[12:10] Daichi
but even so, that's
the impression I get.
[12:12] Daichi
I feel like the link it has with
its creator is ever-present.
[12:17] Kataoka
Right?
[12:18] Daichi
And it doesn't beat
around the bush about it.
[12:21] Daichi
Y'know, thinking about it,
[12:24] Daichi
and I mentioned this
when we met up,
[12:27] Daichi
but it has a "New York" feel to it.
[12:28] Ishida
Like a New Yorker.
[12:29] Daichi
That's how I approached it.
[12:30] Kataoka
Wait, what do you mean?
[12:33] Daichi
I produced my work on it while picturing
her as a New York career woman.
[12:39] Daichi
So she's always cool and collected,
and keeps a lid on her emotions.
[12:43] Daichi
She has emotions, sure, like everyone.
But she doesn't really show them.
[12:47] Daichi
To me, that's what
gives it a "New York" feel.
[12:49] Kataoka
I get what you mean.
[12:50] Kataoka
Like, "I'm East Coast, not West Coast!"
SIGN After the break, we're back
with Ishida Haruka-san: Exposed!!
[12:51] Daichi
Right!
[12:53] Kataoka
"That's not how I do things!"
[12:54] Kataoka
Yeah, that's it.
[12:56] Daichi
That's exactly what I mean.
The whole East Coast thing.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 1's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ishida Haruka
SIGN Episode 1's Director
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:07] Narrator
In the first half, we heard about director
Daichi Akitaro's anime preferences.
[13:13] Narrator
In the second half, we'll hear from
former idol, Ishida Haruka-san,
[13:16] Narrator
and get the naked truth from her...
in more ways than one!
[13:19] Narrator
Eyes front, people!
SIGN The Entire Backstory
of Ishida Haruka-san
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
[13:25] Ishida
Well, when I was 13,
I joined AKB48,
SIGN Sum up your life story, Ishida Haruka-san
[13:29] Ishida
and before that,
all I really did was judo.
[13:32] Daichi
Judo?
[13:33] Ishida
I did judo, yeah.
[13:34] Ishida
Seven years of it, in lessons
and after-school clubs.
[13:39] Ishida
And then, all of a sudden
I ended up as an idol. Yeah.
[13:44] Ishida
Well, one day, I'd like to answer
"a voice actress" to that.
SIGN What would you say your main job is at the moment?
[13:48] Ishida
But right now, I guess I would say
I'm more of a gaming personality.
[13:51] Ishida
I play a lot of games, and
my work centers around them.
[13:54] Ishida
Not like... acting in them,
just playing them.
[13:59] Ishida
A lot of times, my job
is simply to play games.
SIGN Do you get a lot of acting roles?
[14:03] Ishida
Well, I'd say I don't
get a ton of them...
[14:07] Ishida
I think that, when it comes to theater,
I mostly do recitation dramas.
[14:10] Ishida
Getting up on stage
and reading scripts...
[14:14] Ishida
That's the majority of my
acting roles at the moment.
SIGN What genres do you tend to do work in?
[14:17] Ishida
Let's see... I guess
trials come up a lot.
[14:20] Ishida
Usually, the shows are adapted from novels,
and a lot of them have court scenes.
[14:24] Ishida
Like, "This person is gonna
be executed!" kinda stories.
[14:28] Daichi
That's crazy.
[14:29] Daichi
What kind of roles do
you play in those shows?
[14:32] Ishida
Well, the one I'm thinking of,
I was cast as a programmer.
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN What kind of role was it?
[14:36] Ishida
Other than that... let's see...
[14:38] Ishida
And then, I was actually cast in a game
from the same franchise as the play,
[14:43] Ishida
and in that one, I played
a girl who was seriously crazy.
[14:47] Daichi
That programmer...
What was she like?
[14:50] Daichi
Oh, the programmer was
the really bashful type.
[14:54] Daichi
Like, really cute and smile-inducing.
[14:57] Kataoka
When you have
to play a bashful girl,
[14:59] Kataoka
how do you find that
bring that out of yourself?
[15:03] Kataoka
You're not shy, after all.
[15:04] Ishida
No, I'm not. Not at all, really.
[15:05] Kataoka
You're more aggressive.
[15:07] Ishida
I'm not! I'm definitely not aggressive!
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN The trick to playing bashful characters
[15:09] Ishida
But, y'know, bashfulness...
[15:12] Ishida
At the time, I was still kinda
nervous around others,
[15:15] Ishida
so I feel like I'm going through life
[15:17] Ishida
constantly telling myself
not to be so nervous now.
[15:21] Ishida
But with shyness, if you just accept it,
you'll never be anything else.
[15:25] Ishida
So I just try to be more open.
[15:28] Ishida
And when I was doing that role,
[15:30] Ishida
I was still in my bashful phase,
so it was really easy.
[15:33] Ishida
Yeah, I think I was 19 at the time.
[15:35] Daichi
So you took your bashful side...
[15:37] Ishida
Yeah, I took that part of myself.
[15:38] Daichi
And if anything, that's
closer to who you really are?
[15:40] Ishida
Yeah.
[15:41] Ishida
Like, if I had to choose, the version
of me that goes out and parties,
[15:44] Ishida
that kind of thing, is something
I don't have much experience of,
[15:47] Ishida
so I find that harder, yeah.
[15:49] Daichi
Did you get more of those
kinds of roles afterwards?
[15:51] Ishida
Those kinds of roles?
[15:51] Ishida
Did you find you were getting typecast?
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN What kind of roles do you tend to get?
[15:54] Ishida
Good question.
[15:54] Daichi
I mean...
[15:55] Daichi
It kinda makes you question how
the world at large sees you, right?
[15:59] Ishida
Come to think of it,
I really haven't done
[16:01] Ishida
a lot of super energetic roles.
[16:03] Daichi
You haven't?
[16:04] Ishida
It's one thing I haven't done a lot...
[16:06] Daichi
Even today.
[16:08] Daichi
While we were recording,
[16:09] Daichi
you really kept a lid
on your energy levels.
[16:11] Daichi
You didn't start bouncing around.
[16:14] Ishida
Energetic... I think I've only really
ever had one role you'd call energetic.
[16:18] Ishida
When I was playing one of those
"full of energy" idol types.
[16:20] Daichi
As an idol, huh?
[16:22] Daichi
Are there any roles
you'd like to play?
[16:23] Ishida
My ideal role? Let me think...
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
[16:25] ---
What kind of role would you like to play?
[16:26] Ishida
Personally speaking,
one day, I'd like to...
[16:29] Ishida
Well, I've done it a few
times before, but...
[16:32] Ishida
the thing I'd like to be known for
[16:35] Ishida
is playing young boys.
[16:37] Daichi
Young boys?
[16:37] Ishida
The kind of plucky, energetic kids you
get in anime shows that air in the morning.
[16:41] Ishida
A young role...
[16:42] Kataoka
A young boy.
[16:43] Ishida
Either playing a young boy, or just being
in any kind of anime that kids watch.
[16:48] Ishida
That'd be my dream.
[16:49] Daichi
Like this show?
[16:51] Daichi
When you did that sumo wrestling bit,
that's the most energetic I've ever seen you.
[16:55] Ishida
Well, when I did judo, I'd do a kiai
when throwing people, you know?
SIGN Ishida-san's childhood
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
[16:59] Ishida
Like, when I actually threw them.
[17:01] Ishida
And my family would make fun of me,
because they thought it sounded
[17:04] Ishida
like I was going "meow" when I did it.
[17:04] Daichi
Like a cat?
[17:05] Ishida
Yeah, they'd be like,
"You just said 'meow'!"
[17:07] Ishida
I apparently did that
when I threw people.
[17:09] Ishida
I wasn't particularly
good at it or anything.
[17:11] Ishida
But I really used to enjoy
playing in the mud.
[17:14] Ishida
I didn't have any dolls or anything,
[17:16] Ishida
so I used to play in
empty lots, like a tomboy.
[17:19] Ishida
Wherever there was sand.
[17:21] Ishida
I was a bit of a tomboy
when I was younger.
[17:23] Daichi
A tomboy?
[17:23] Ishida
Yeah.
SIGN "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
and its depths
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Thoughts on Episode 1 of Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Daichi Akitaro x Ishida Haruka
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[17:29] Ishida
When I was reading the source
material, I kinda got this feeling...
[17:35] Ishida
It's like what you were saying.
It really gave me a strong "New York" vibe.
[17:39] Ishida
That was the impression
I got as I was reading.
[17:43] Ishida
Almost like it was based on
the life of an actual New Yorker.
[17:48] Ishida
The impression you get with
career-oriented people in New York
[17:54] Ishida
is that they pretend not to worry,
and focus on their work,
[17:57] Ishida
but deep down, they're still
concerned about their personal lives.
[18:01] Ishida
So when they get home,
they feel a bit lonely,
[18:03] Ishida
but still try to play it cool.
[18:06] Ishida
That's why, whether there was a lizard
in her apartment or she was at work,
[18:11] Ishida
I wanted her to have that kind
of feel, no matter where she was.
[18:15] Ishida
And I think we really
nailed that, personally.
[18:19] Ishida
Like, "This is New York style!"
[18:21] Ishida
A New Yorker.
[18:22] Daichi
Right, right.
[18:23] Daichi
Like, she just trails off when
she's wondering about pets.
[18:26] Daichi
I really love that part.
[18:27] Ishida
That was fun to do!
[18:30] Ishida
I gave it that little pause.
[18:30] Daichi
While she's staring at it.
[18:32] Daichi
She was so scared at first,
[18:33] Daichi
but then, she's like, "I wonder
what it's like to have a pet."
[18:35] Daichi
She even says that.
[18:36] Ishida
Yeah, she did.
[18:36] Daichi
The fact that she's talking to herself
[18:38] Daichi
is what makes it so funny.
[18:40] Daichi
That might be my favorite
part of the episode.
[18:44] Ishida
Good question! I think the thing
that stands out the most,
SIGN What are your favorite, or most relatable parts,
of the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga?
[18:47] Ishida
or what left the biggest impression
on me when I was reading through,
[18:51] Ishida
was the completely insane
number of men in it.
[18:54] Daichi
Yeah.
[18:55] Ishida
That's something about
Ekoda-chan's life...
[18:57] Ishida
If I'm ever reincarnated,
I'd like to be someone like that.
[19:02] Ishida
Because with my current situation,
as things are right now...
[19:06] Ishida
I mean, I went straight into
showbiz at the age of 13,
[19:11] Ishida
and I'm now in my 12th year...
[19:13] Ishida
I spent a lot of my youth working
in the entertainment industry,
[19:19] Ishida
so it's like... How should I put it?
[19:21] Ishida
It's the only world I know,
[19:22] Ishida
and I've gone through life
only thinking about work.
[19:25] Ishida
So it's not like I can just start again
and have a life like Ekoda-chan's.
[19:30] Daichi
I see.
[19:31] Ishida
We're both 24, but we've led
totally different lives,
[19:34] Ishida
so while there are
things I can relate to,
[19:37] Ishida
with things like her interactions
with men, romantic interests,
[19:39] Ishida
and just relationships in general,
we're pretty different.
[19:43] Ishida
So if I had another crack at life,
I'd try it Ekoda-chan's way.
[19:45] Daichi
That's a good point. She's a free
spirit who goes with the flow.
[19:50] Daichi
Then, she gets home,
[19:51] Daichi
looks back on the day,
[19:52] Ishida
Right.
[19:52] Daichi
and pretty much starts
headbutting the wall.
[19:55] Ishida
I think a lot of what
she does is really cute.
[20:00] Daichi
I'd say it's more like
it turned out cute.
[20:02] Ishida
You think so?
[20:03] Daichi
That was your performance.
[20:04] Daichi
Everyone was going,
"So cute! So cute!" today.
[20:07] Daichi
That part where you go "Welcome!"...
[20:10] Daichi
That was probably the cutest
line you delivered all day.
[20:14] Kataoka
It made me want
to visit that place.
[20:17] Ishida
Hitting the club.
[20:19] Daichi
Maybe it's a cute club.
SIGN It sometimes feels like the words "beautiful"
and "cute" are left out of the Ekoda-chan manga
[20:22] Daichi
That goes contrary to
what we've said today.
[20:25] Ishida
Right.
[20:26] Kataoka
Daichi-san and me have never been described
as "beautiful" at any point in our lives.
[20:31] Kataoka
So we've put the whole idea
[20:33] Kataoka
of attractiveness out of our minds.
[20:34] Daichi
Yeah, I don't worry about it.
[20:34] Kataoka
Not even for a moment.
[20:36] Kataoka
When the subject of attractive men
comes up, I go, "None of my business."
[20:39] Daichi
Yeah, if it comes up,
I have nothing to say.
[20:40] Ishida
Nothing to contribute?
[20:43] Daichi
Well, it just doesn't
factor into my life.
[20:46] Kataoka
Today, Daichi-san, you played
one of the old-timers who...
[20:51] ---
Suddenly, it gets dirty!
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
[20:51] Daichi
I was one of the three old men.
[20:52] Kataoka
Right.
[20:52] Daichi
What did we talk about?
[20:53] Ishida
Something to do with left...
[20:54] Daichi
The left of something...
[20:54] Ishida
About preferring the left.
[20:56] Daichi
When I was editing it,
I thought, "This is kind of crude."
[20:59] Daichi
It came across like a dirty joke.
[21:01] Ishida
I see!
[21:02] Daichi
Three old dudes saying, "So you use
your right?" "You use your left?"
[21:05] Daichi
"Hell yeah I use my left."
[21:07] Kataoka
That's right.
[21:09] Daichi
I didn't really get it
until afterwards.
[21:11] Ishida
Me neither.
SIGN Talk about today's recording
[21:12] Ishida
Well, this was my first time
doing voice-overs in a long time.
[21:17] Ishida
About a year, I think?
[21:20] Ishida
So I'm really sorry
if I was a little rusty,
[21:24] Ishida
but I really had a lot of fun
portraying Ekoda-chan,
[21:29] Ishida
and I feel like I've
become a fan of hers.
[21:33] Ishida
And that's what I'm taking away
most from this project.
[21:37] Ishida
There's the other
episodes to watch, too,
[21:40] Ishida
so I'm really looking forward
to checking those out.
[21:43] Daichi
Like I said, if we do this,
we should have fun,
[21:45] Daichi
so that's what we did in
the hours in the studio.
[21:48] Daichi
And I feel like we made the best product
we could while having a great time.
[21:53] Daichi
I even did some lines myself.
[21:54] Ishida
Right.
[21:56] Daichi
Though, it's weird listening to them,
so we might redo those lines.
[22:00] Daichi
But I honestly had
a good time making this.
[22:05] Daichi
And that's all
I have to say. Yeah.
[22:08] Daichi
Thank you.
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
SIGN Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN we'll touch on the hidden depths of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:19] Narrator
and how it had the director of Episode 2
and Ekoda-chan's VA on the ropes!
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:24] Narrator
Talk about a manga with depth!
[22:27] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Lizard
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Sweatpants
SIGN Face
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN "In Between Morning and Night"
[00:07] Ekoda
Pluck.
[00:09] Ekoda
There's a theory that children are more
likely to survive plane crashes than adults.
[00:16] Boyfriend
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I know, I hear you.
[00:20] Ekoda
Apparently, their bodies are more supple,
their muscles more relaxed.
[00:24] Ekoda
Which means there's less chance
an impact will do serious damage.
[00:27] Ekoda
Or so they say.
[00:28] Boyfriend
Did you grow your hair out?
[00:30] Boyfriend
Huh? I told you, you should.
[00:33] Boyfriend
Chiyoko, I'm positive you'd
look better with long hair.
[00:36] Ekoda
If you just relax and hold still...
[00:40] Ekoda
something like this won't hurt... one bit.
[00:45] Boyfriend
Of course I'm not cheating on you.
[00:47] Ekoda
And won't do much damage.
[00:54] Ekoda
Caution
[01:02] Ekoda
So long...
[01:05] Ekoda
All I've been doing is waiting.
[01:07] Ekoda
Should I give up and find a new path?
[01:11] Ekoda
But if I give up now, all the time
I've spent waiting will be for nothing.
[01:12] Ekoda
Caution
[01:16] Ekoda
It doesn't matter how long it takes.
[01:18] Ekoda
One day, after I've won this war of attrition,
[01:20] Ekoda
my triumph will prove
that all this was worth it.
[01:24] Ekoda
As long as I keep believing that...
[01:26] Boyfriend
You know I love you.
[01:33] Boyfriend
And I won't cheat on you, okay?
[01:37] Ekoda
Chiyoko... I wish she wasn't in the picture.
[01:40] Ekoda
No, he's the real problem here.
[01:46] Ekoda
Thing is, if I start telling myself that,
[01:48] Ekoda
it renders hanging on
as long as I have meaningless.
[01:51] Boyfriend
Okay. I'll call you again later.
[01:53] Boyfriend
Yeah. See you.
[02:03] Ekoda
You wanna do it again?
[02:07] Boyfriend
I've got an early start tomorrow, so nah.
[02:10] Ekoda
Okay.
[02:20] Ekoda
If I face toward him,
it feels like I'm begging...
[02:24] Ekoda
But if I face away, it looks like I'm sulking.
[02:29] Ekoda
Lying like this feels like some kind of
desperate compromise, and that's pathetic.
[02:35] Ekoda
But... if I'm gonna be
totally honest with myself...
[03:32] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
This week, we unveil the director
of Episode 2: Sugii Gisaburo,
SIGN Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Park Romi-san!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
SIGN Episode 2's Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
[04:02] Narrator
What does it mean to be a woman?
And just who is Ekoda-chan?
[04:06] Narrator
They'll even talk about the
depth of the original manga!
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN What went through your head when you were
approached about working on the anime adaptation?
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[04:18] Sugii
To be honest, well...
SIGN Episode 2's Director
Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Park Romi
[04:20] Sugii
The Ekoda-chan manga wasn't even on my radar,
[04:26] Sugii
so when Kataoka-san contacted me about
directing, he brought along the first volume.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:30] Sugii
And as I was flipping through,
[04:33] Sugii
I couldn't help asking: "Why do you
want me for this adaptation?"
[04:40] Sugii
I didn't really understand why.
[04:42] Sugii
So I asked him directly:
[04:46] Sugii
"Kataoka-san, why'd you choose me for this?"
[04:48] Sugii
And he says to me, "Well, Ekoda-chan here..."
[04:54] Sugii
"The protagonist. I want to show
how she lives, as a woman."
[05:00] Sugii
"And I think you're the best
person to do that, Sugii-san."
[05:05] Sugii
So I agreed, even though I didn't
really understand what he meant.
[05:08] Sugii
That was how the
conversation went, wasn't it?
[05:11] Sugii
I honestly had no idea
why you wanted me for this.
[05:14] Sugii
Well, we'd actually worked
together once before.
SIGN Why did you choose Park Romi for the lead role?
[05:20] Sugii
On a show which had Maruyama-san as
producer. I call him Marutan.
[05:26] Sugii
And whenever he's involved,
he takes the reins.
[05:28] Sugii
So I didn't really have much input.
[05:32] Sugii
For the most part,
I let Maruyama-san handle things.
[05:36] Sugii
But seeing you working with him made me
want to work with you. That was it.
[05:42] Romi
Really?
[05:43] Sugii
For a really long time, I kept thinking:
[05:45] Sugii
"If the opportunity arises,
I'd like to work with Park-san."
[05:49] Sugii
And I happened to be working
with Maruyama-san again recently...
[05:52] Sugii
And I told him, "Well, if I do this,
I'd like to get Park-san."
[05:55] Sugii
And his response was, "Hey, great idea!"
[05:57] Romi
Really? Wow!
[05:59] Romi
That's great to hear.
[06:01] Sugii
That was where it began.
[06:02] Sugii
So if I'm being totally honest,
[06:05] Sugii
in order for me to actually direct this...
[06:09] Sugii
I was having a really hard time settling
on how I wanted to approach it.
[06:13] Sugii
So... and this is just my gut
talking, but Ekoda-chan...
[06:19] Sugii
Even putting aside how much
I wanted to work with you...
[06:23] Sugii
Something about her...
[06:25] Sugii
I feel like you and her
have something in common.
[06:30] Sugii
I just get that feeling, for some reason.
[06:32] Romi
Well, I wasn't really familiar
with Ekoda-chan beforehand,
SIGN What went through your head when
Director Sugii offered you the role?
[06:37] Romi
but when we first worked
together on a project,
[06:43] Romi
I really loved it.
[06:45] Romi
And I was really glad I'd gotten
the chance to work on it.
[06:51] Romi
So when you contacted me about Ekoda-chan,
[06:55] Romi
I was positive it was going to be
just as interesting as the time before,
[06:59] Romi
and I think the first thing I saw
were the storyboards, right?
[07:03] Romi
And those were already so, so interesting!
[07:06] Sugii
I see.
[07:07] Romi
I mean...
[07:08] Romi
a scene where she's plucking her eyebrows
and lining the hairs up on a tissue...
[07:12] Sugii
And that's how it starts.
[07:13] Romi
Right! But I found it really compelling.
[07:17] Romi
So after that, I went and read the manga...
[07:22] Romi
And I was like, "Huh?"
[07:23] Romi
"It has a story like this...
and it's told in four-panel strips?"
[07:28] Sugii
Right?
[07:29] Romi
It was a real shock.
[07:32] Romi
And honestly, I was super impressed.
[07:36] Romi
And the more I read,
the more interesting I found it,
[07:39] Romi
and I was really struck by
how candid Ekoda-chan was.
[07:44] Sugii
She's an admirable woman.
[07:46] Romi
Right.
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 2 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[07:52] Sugii
I was having such trouble
figuring out how to approach it,
SIGN Regarding the screenplay for
Episode 2 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[07:56] Sugii
but I happened to be in
contact with Okada Mari-san.
[07:58] Romi
Right.
[07:59] Sugii
She's a writer who does
a ton of work for anime,
[08:02] Sugii
and I asked her to write the screenplay.
[08:04] Romi
Right.
[08:07] Sugii
We didn't have many meetings.
[08:09] Sugii
And I thought an Ekoda-chan
monologue would work well.
[08:13] Sugii
I told her that all it really needed to do
was show things from her point of view.
[08:19] Sugii
So then, once the script was written...
[08:21] Sugii
Well, how should I put it?
[08:24] Sugii
"How on earth did you pull this off?"
[08:27] Sugii
It does such a good job of
adapting the source material,
[08:31] Sugii
but it makes the episode self-contained.
[08:35] Sugii
And I think if you haven't read
the original Ekoda-chan manga,
[08:42] Sugii
you might not appreciate
just how deep it can get.
[08:48] Sugii
So what I was worried about is...
SIGN Director Sugii's concerns about adapting
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" into an anime
[08:51] Sugii
Why does Ekoda-chan, y'know,
fall for such a free-wheeling guy?
[08:56] Sugii
I mean, she's waiting for Maa-kun to choose her.
And she's been waiting a long time.
[09:00] Romi
Right.
[09:01] Sugii
I thought the biggest question was,
"Why would she wait so long for him?"
[09:08] Sugii
With men and women... well...
[09:12] Sugii
It's strange how, sometimes,
no matter how clueless the guy is,
[09:15] Sugii
there are times where they have this...
[09:19] Sugii
How do I put it? There's a particular
type of kindness they show at times,
[09:23] Sugii
and women sometimes
subconsciously latch onto that.
[09:27] Sugii
Maa-kun doesn't realize he's doing it.
Even when he's talking to Chiyoko.
[09:31] Sugii
So, as she's listening to Maa-kun
talking to this other woman,
[09:36] Sugii
and he's being all sweet and loving
and showing that kindness...
[09:41] Sugii
Ekoda-chan instinctively realizes...
[09:45] Sugii
That's what she's attracted to.
She wouldn't wait for him otherwise.
[09:48] Sugii
I mean, he has another woman.
[09:48] Romi
Right.
[09:51] Romi
I guess the way she doesn't directly
confront him about it, but also kinda does.
SIGN What they have in common with Ekoda-chan
[09:58] Romi
It's like, she's sorta giving in, but at the
same time, she isn't at all, y'know?
[10:02] Romi
I think that right there is
pretty much what defines her.
[10:06] Romi
When I think about it from my perspective...
[10:09] Romi
There'll be times when I think
I'm doing something unexpected,
[10:13] Romi
but I'm just being totally predictable.
[10:15] Romi
So I think, maybe in those ways,
I'm kinda similar to Ekoda-chan.
[10:22] Romi
Like, the way she wasn't crying, but
a bead of sweat rolled down into her eye...
[10:27] Romi
There's something about that moment
that gets to the heart of her character.
[10:33] Romi
I honestly wasn't sure
what to do in that scene.
[10:36] Romi
I mean, if you get sweat in your eye, it stings,
[10:39] Romi
so I thought to myself,
"How much should I emphasize that?"
[10:43] Romi
"How strong should her reaction be?"
[10:46] Romi
You know how, in that scene,
Ekoda-chan's trying to act tough,
[10:51] Romi
but you can just tell
how she's actually feeling?
[10:53] Romi
I think that kind of thing
is what I relate to the most.
SIGN On how complicated it is to try to depict a character
as multifaceted as Ekoda-chan
[10:58] Sugii
The thing about the character of Ekoda
[11:01] Sugii
is that we want to bring
across how cute she is.
[11:06] Sugii
But in the monologue, it'd be bizarre
for her to talk about herself in a way
[11:11] Sugii
that suggests she finds herself cute, right?
[11:13] Sugii
I mean, in a conversation,
how you act can highlight that aspect,
[11:17] Sugii
but here, she's talking to herself.
[11:18] Romi
Right.
[11:19] Sugii
So today, we got you to do take after take,
[11:22] Sugii
which I can only apologize for...
[11:23] Romi
No, no, it's fine!
[11:25] Sugii
But when I realized how much difference
[11:26] Sugii
the fact she's talking to herself
made to the scene...
[11:31] Sugii
Sorry, I should've said something sooner.
[11:32] Romi
Oh, no, it's totally fine.
[11:35] Romi
The way the various scene
breaks interact is so interesting,
[11:39] Romi
and because of that, I leaned toward
reflecting that in the different takes.
[11:43] Romi
And when you were talking to me about
the essence of Ekoda-chan's character,
[11:48] Romi
I wasn't expecting this rough,
fuzzily-drawn appearance.
[11:54] Romi
And there was part of me that
wondered if that's how it should look.
[11:59] Romi
I kinda wanted to do
a more serious Ekoda-chan...
[12:03] Romi
And I couldn't shake that impression.
[12:07] Romi
So I was approaching it like,
"Here's how a woman would really act."
[12:10] Romi
And I think maybe because of that,
[12:11] Romi
the takes were heavier than necessary.
[12:12] Sugii
Oh, no, it worked well.
SIGN Sugii's approach to recording voice-overs
[12:13] Sugii
Fundamentally, after
a certain point in my career,
[12:19] Sugii
I stopped making specific
demands of the cast.
[12:23] Sugii
I like how, if you don't say anything,
[12:27] Sugii
the actors will read the script themselves,
and come up with their own take on it.
[12:30] Sugii
And if the animation side
makes too many demands,
[12:34] Sugii
those demands will be treated like rules,
so they can't add their own personal touches.
[12:39] Sugii
And ever since I realized that...
[12:42] Sugii
And maybe this makes it sound
like I just don't want to give direction,
[12:46] Sugii
but I tend to leave it to the actors.
[12:48] Sugii
And I think that's for the best.
SIGN After the break,
we'll ponder Ekoda-chan's life!!
[12:53] Sugii
I just realized something.
[12:57] Sugii
This is kind of a tough story to adapt.
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Episode 2's Director
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Park Romi
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
It's one surprise after another!
[13:08] Narrator
Director Sugii and Park Romi-san
[13:10] Narrator
both admitted they were unsure
about their approach in the first half.
[13:14] Narrator
In the second half,
we drill down further,
[13:16] Narrator
and examine Ekoda-chan's outlook on life.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
Outlook on Life
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN What sex means to Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
[13:25] Sugii
The way people treat sex
throughout their lives...
[13:30] Sugii
Their values, and their opinions on it...
[13:34] Sugii
I mean, Ekoda-chan
sleeps around, doesn't she?
[13:36] Kataoka
Right. She does.
[13:38] Sugii
And that's... What's the right word?
[13:42] Sugii
I think it's terrific.
[13:44] Sugii
How, in spite of that, you
don't view her as lascivious.
[13:48] Sugii
And it's not like she has
a warped perspective.
[13:51] Sugii
I think it's because, for
women, it's sort of like...
[13:55] Sugii
Sex and, I guess, your outlook on life, maybe?
[13:59] Sugii
I mean, like, your identity...
They're completely separate.
[14:02] Sugii
And that...
[14:06] Sugii
That's a kind of controversial
way to look at sex.
[14:10] Kataoka
It's revolutionary.
[14:11] Sugii
Yeah. There was that Cuckoo movie...
[14:15] Both
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?
[14:16] Sugii
Yes, "One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest." That's it.
[14:19] Sugii
There's a part where the
protagonist's with this woman,
[14:21] Sugii
and in the same mental hospital,
there's this other guy...
[14:25] Sugii
And he offers to let his girl
sleep with this virgin.
[14:31] Sugii
When I saw that movie, I thought
the protagonist was remarkable.
[14:37] Sugii
That really opened my eyes
to the reality behind sex.
[14:43] Sugii
I mean, for the sake of this
man who hasn't had sex before...
[14:46] Sugii
he literally asks his girl,
"Hey, could you sleep with this guy?"
[14:52] Sugii
At the time, I thought, "Any man
who can do that is amazing."
[14:58] Sugii
And to me, that's similar
to Ekoda-chan's situation.
[15:02] Sugii
And it's why I think she's terrific. As a woman.
[15:08] Sugii
I mean, Maa-kun's just your average guy.
[15:10] Romi
Right.
[15:11] Sugii
So it means Ekoda-chan's
situation isn't out of the ordinary.
[15:15] Sugii
It's not like she's found Mr. Right.
[15:19] Kataoka
Yeah.
[15:20] Sugii
She's just in love with a loser.
[15:23] Sugii
And you know, sometimes, sex
is treated as something liberating.
[15:28] Sugii
This isn't like that.
[15:29] Romi
So true.
[15:30] Sugii
It's just a normal part of life.
[15:33] Sugii
And I think Ekoda-chan's way
of life... y'know, her lifestyle...
[15:40] Sugii
I think it might just be a societal thing.
[15:43] Sugii
This might be the future of how
men and women interact, you know?
[15:48] Sugii
I mean, I get the impression that, for women,
[15:52] Sugii
they don't get all pretentious
over sex, you know?
[15:56] Sugii
All this, "What exactly is a man?"
"What exactly is a woman?"
[15:59] Sugii
And, "What is sex, anyway?"
[16:02] Sugii
All of that gets addressed.
That's what makes this work so amazing.
[16:08] Romi
I think so, too.
SIGN What did you think of Ekoda-chan's lifestyle?
[16:10] Romi
I mean, it's really
understandable, for one thing,
[16:12] Romi
and well, it's sorta...
really cool, as well, y'know?
[16:17] Romi
And... how should I phrase this?
[16:20] Romi
There are things it touches on, like
how women can be motivated by emotion,
[16:25] Romi
but she's just... She's good
at keeping it together.
[16:28] Romi
I mean, she has her problems
and plenty of heartache, sure,
[16:32] Romi
but it's like, she has this inner strength,
[16:35] Romi
which makes you feel like
it's not dragging her down.
[16:38] Romi
It's amazing. On a human level, it's impressive.
[16:40] Kataoka
It's truly remarkable.
[16:42] Kataoka
I mean, I get the feeling that women
often get told they have to be strong...
[16:49] Kataoka
I think that might be what
Sugii-san noticed in her.
[16:51] Kataoka
Park-san, you give off that same strong vibe.
[16:54] Sugii
I think so.
[16:55] Ekoda
But Ekoda is weak, too!
[16:57] Both
Oh, you've got a point.
[16:59] Sugii
When her feelings get hurt...
[16:59] Romi
Right, exactly.
[17:01] Sugii
But it usually only comes
out when she's alone.
[17:03] Sugii
She'll get frustrated and do this...
[17:04] Romi
That's right.
[17:06] Romi
We have that in common!
[17:09] Romi
I think, for me, personally,
ever since I was young,
[17:14] Romi
when it comes to stuff like men,
and women, and aging...
[17:18] Romi
I never really let it bother me.
[17:19] Romi
I suppose it's the "Hey,
we're all the same" thing.
[17:23] Romi
So when it comes to that, I think...
[17:27] Romi
that's one thing I have in common with her.
[17:30] Romi
As time goes on, the story
sometimes gets complicated,
[17:35] Romi
but I think her character
is very progressive.
[17:39] Kataoka
Right.
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
and its depths
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Director Sugii's interpretation of Ekoda-chan
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Sugii Gisaburo x Park Romi
[17:45] Sugii
Back during the planning phase,
it was honestly...
[17:49] Sugii
It felt like it'd be a real challenge.
[17:51] Sugii
"Has there ever been a show like this?"
[17:53] Sugii
So, in that sense, at first,
as a character designer...
[17:58] Sugii
I thought about going
for a more realistic, raw look.
[18:04] Sugii
You know, make it as realistic as I could,
in spite of it being a short-form show.
[18:09] Sugii
But then, Takinami-san's art...
[18:13] Sugii
When I took a proper look at it,
it's got this strong pop aesthetic.
[18:16] Romi
You're right.
[18:17] Sugii
There are elements of Andy Warhol in there.
[18:21] Sugii
She has a very pop art look about her.
[18:25] Sugii
And because of that,
I thought a more realistic style...
[18:30] Sugii
I started thinking it wouldn't
be very funny like that,
[18:32] Sugii
so I veered away from
that idea partway through.
[18:36] Sugii
But when it came to your acting, I didn't
want it to be exaggerated or "animefied."
[18:45] Sugii
I wanted a more natural performance.
[18:49] Sugii
I get the feeling that, as a director,
[18:52] Sugii
I've never had a project like this where I've
been so unsure which direction to go in.
[18:56] Sugii
And I honestly didn't know exactly what I was
aiming for, even while I was working on it.
SIGN Your thoughts going into the recording session
[19:01] Romi
Well, I was thinking how rare it was
[19:03] Romi
to have more staff present than actors.
[19:05] Sugii
Right.
[19:07] Romi
So something about that whole
setup was a bit intimidating,
[19:11] Romi
but the picture I had in my head was...
I didn't want to make it overly colorful.
[19:15] Romi
And I figured that's how I'd approach it.
[19:18] Romi
So I went for a much,
much starker delivery.
[19:22] Romi
And that maybe made my interpretation
more pensive than was ideal.
[19:26] Romi
So, after getting some feedback,
and doing a few different takes,
[19:30] Romi
I think the tone changed
a bit as we went along.
[19:33] Sugii
I think, just looking at the lines and
the storyboards for this episode...
[19:41] Sugii
There's a real, for want of
a better word, literary feel to it.
[19:43] Romi
Yeah, I agree.
[19:44] Sugii
Which probably explains why
you voiced her the way you did.
[19:47] Sugii
But even so,
[19:50] Sugii
considering how "pop"
the source material is,
[19:53] Sugii
it needed an air of lightness to it, too.
[19:55] Sugii
And I realize asking, "Could you make it
lighter?" when talking about plane crashes
[19:59] Sugii
sounds kind of unreasonable.
[20:00] Romi
Oh, no, no...
[20:02] Sugii
But I never realized just how hard
[20:02] Romi
I didn't think it was that odd.
[20:04] Sugii
doing a monologue could be.
SIGN Your thoughts after the recording session
[20:06] Romi
The fact that it's such
a short piece of animation,
[20:10] Romi
but there are so many people there, thinking,
"What should we do about Ekoda-chan?"
[20:14] Romi
"What should we do with this project?"
[20:17] Romi
Being able to work in an environment
like that was really wonderful.
[20:22] Romi
I'm the kind of actress
who wants to do lots of takes,
[20:27] Romi
so the thought of our time coming
to an end so quickly made me sad.
[20:30] Romi
I just wanted to keep doing
two, maybe three takes.
[20:33] Romi
And I was really appreciative
that I got the chance to do
[20:36] Romi
a few different readings of the lines.
[20:40] Romi
It feels like, compared to works with bigger
casts, or stories on a much larger scale,
[20:47] Romi
this is so much more intimate, yeah.
[20:48] Sugii
It is.
[20:49] Romi
So I wanted to have more of a back-and-forth
with the staff on my approach to the role.
[20:56] Romi
And because of that, I think
[20:58] Romi
it's a performance I'll always remember.
[21:02] Sugii
That makes sense.
[21:04] Sugii
And I let you handle
all the finishing touches.
[21:07] Romi
"If you wanna give me some
direction, just let me know!"
[21:09] Romi
"I'll do it! Seriously, I'll do whatever!"
[21:11] Romi
I mean, usually, when recording...
[21:12] Sugii
It's your role, though.
[21:13] Sugii
And when you have an actress
as good as you are, Park-san...
[21:16] Park
I'm not that good!
[21:17] Sugii
I honestly started wondering,
"Should we really be doing so many takes?"
[21:21] Romi
I wouldn't say that.
[21:21] Sugii
It felt like maybe we were splitting hairs.
[21:23] Sugii
But, in spite of that, I had a really
strong image of where to take it.
[21:27] Sugii
But I didn't want to say, "Do it like this,"
and ask for another take.
[21:32] Sugii
So even though I felt like
you were finding it difficult...
[21:36] Sugii
I mean, that's a first for me.
[21:38] Sugii
A lot of the time, you don't want too much
forethought going into production.
[21:41] Sugii
In animation, you need
to make snap decisions.
[21:46] Sugii
No matter what issues you encounter, you
need to resolve them as quickly as possible.
[21:50] Sugii
It's a bad idea to keep the
actors waiting, for instance,
[21:52] Sugii
or indeed, any of the other staff...
[21:55] Sugii
Making short work of plotting out the
best path is meant to be the director's job.
[22:00] Sugii
But today? I wasn't able
to make snap decisions.
[22:04] Romi
For the first time?
[22:05] Sugii
For the first time.
[22:06] Romi
I got to be the first!
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:17] Narrator
an unexpected character
design choice has
[22:20] Narrator
the actress playing Ekoda-chan
in Episode 3 reeling!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:23] Narrator
What on earth was the director thinking?
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:26] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Eyes
SIGN Tweezers
SIGN Smartphone
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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[00:00] ---
Rinshi!!
[00:00] ---
Ekoda-chan
[00:04] Ekoda
I'm having a side dish of saury today.
My plan is to salt it and grill it.
[00:08] Ekoda
Before I cook it, I mess about with it a little
to find out what it's like to own a pet.
[00:13] Ekoda
"Aw, don't bite me!" Stuff like that.
[00:16] Ekoda
"Birds of prey."
[00:17] ME
Look, a birdie!
[00:19] ME
This kitty's so cute!
[00:20] ME
A bear! Yay!
[00:22] Ekoda
Is she an animal lover?
[00:24] ME
It's a moo cow!
[00:25] Ekoda
No, something about this
scene suggests otherwise.
[00:29] Ekoda
Or is it just me?
[00:31] News
This is Tanaka-san, who grows
flowers on his property every year.
[00:35] Tanaka
I want to cheer up everyone
who passes my garden.
[00:38] Ekoda
I feel you.
[00:39] News
Being a newscaster must be tough.
[00:42] Bird
It is, but I try to make everyone happy,
and do my job with a smile on my face.
[00:45] Ekoda
I sorta feel you, I guess.
[00:47] Idols
With our cheerful singing and dancing...
[00:49] Idols
...we wanna help everyone dream!
[00:51] Idols
So we're gonna sing!
[00:52] Idols
Meow, meow, meow.
[00:55] Ekoda
Is that really how it works? I'm not convinced.
[00:58] Sis
Hey, I know my business better
than anyone, so don't butt in.
[01:03] Ekoda
My big sis sounds like she knows everything.
[01:05] Ekoda
But does she really?
[01:08] Ekoda
After all, my sister has yet to realize...
[01:11] Ekoda
...she's been eating in her sleep.
[01:14] Ekoda
I bought a dog carrier
at the second-hand store.
[01:18] ME
D'you think it's a kitty? Or a puppy?
[01:20] ME
Can I take a peek?
[01:22] Ekoda
Trying to flaunt your cute side, huh?
[01:25] Ekoda
It won't work this time.
[01:26] Ekoda
Tell me, little bird of prey:
how are you going to react to this?
[01:31] Horse
What was in there?
[01:32] ME
The cutest little purse you've ever seen!
[01:34] Ekoda
Those birds of prey! They score
top marks for cuteness every time!
[01:38] Ekoda
I concede defeat.
[01:39] Sam
Ah, wholesome Japanese high schoolers.
[01:42] Sam
They must be about 15 or 16.
[01:45] Sam
By the time they get to my age,
some of them will be in college,
[01:49] Sam
most will be married, and a few
will have headed off overseas.
[01:53] Sam
And one or two... will have died.
[01:56] Ekoda
Do you have some beef with
Japanese high school girls?
[01:59] Ekoda
Um, I'd like a cheeseburger, hold the pickles.
[02:03] Clerk
Right. One cheeseburger, hold the cheese.
[02:05] Ekoda
She misheard me!
[02:07] Ekoda
Uh, actually...
[02:08] Clerk
Okay, so that's a cheeseburger without cheese...
[02:12] Clerk
Wait, that's just a regular hamburger.
[02:14] Ekoda
Talk about realizing you're
wrong but not knowing why.
[02:19] Friend
I don't have any sexual proclivities.
[02:21] Friend
I don't know if I'm dominant or submissive,
or if there are any fetishes I'm into.
[02:25] Friend
And I'm hopeless at talking dirty.
[02:27] Ekoda
There's nothing wrong with that.
[02:29] Friend
But I don't like not knowing these things.
[02:31] Friend
So I bought some rope just to try it out,
[02:33] Friend
and before tying myself up with it,
I decided to boil it so it'd soften up a bit,
[02:37] Friend
but my dad lifted up the lid,
thinking it was oden.
[02:40] Friend
Ever since, it's been awkward between us.
[02:42] Ekoda
I'm not sure which bit of that
you want me to comment on.
[02:46] Ekoda
Ekoda-chan's rules for doodling.
[02:48] Ekoda
Draw a fish on rice omelets.
[02:49] Ekoda
Footprints in the condensation.
[02:51] Ekoda
And... on your knees, draw faces.
[02:54] Ekoda
It's been so long, knees!
[02:57] Ekoda
It's a great way to spend an evening
when your nerves are frazzled.
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
This time, we unveil the director
of Episode 3: Shigino Akira,
SIGN Director
SIGN Shigino Akira
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tatsumi Yuiko!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tatsumi Yuiko
[04:01] Narrator
In Episode 3, to everyone's shock,
all the characters were animals!
SIGN Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tatsumi Yuiko
SIGN Episode 3's Director
SIGN Shigino Akira
[04:05] Narrator
Ekoda-chan as a bunny?!
[04:07] Narrator
We'll find out the director's
reasoning behind the change!
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Shigino Akira
[04:17] Akira
Well, I generally don't turn
down a lot of work,
SIGN The reason the director accepted the job
SIGN Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Episode 3's Director
Shigino Akira
SIGN Episode 2's Ekoda-san
Tatsumi Yuiko
[04:22] Akira
but I actually read the
manga, back in the day.
[04:25] Kataoka
I see.
[04:26] Akira
And I remember thinking
it was interesting.
[04:31] Akira
But I imagine, if I'd never read it,
[04:35] Akira
I might've had doubts about
whether I could adapt it properly.
[04:40] Akira
But I had read it.
[04:42] Akira
So I figured it could be fun.
[04:45] Akira
And when I heard it was a short-form anime,
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:47] Akira
with 12 different directors working on it...
[04:49] Kataya
Right.
[04:50] Akira
I thought that was interesting, too.
[04:52] Akira
It feels like it's been a while
since I was actually at a recording.
SIGN Looking back on today's recording session
[04:56] Akira
So that was fun, too.
[04:58] Akira
Since I turned the
characters into animals,
[05:02] Akira
I was curious how it'd turn out
when it came time to record.
[05:07] Akira
Yeah.
[05:08] Yuiko
Let's see...
[05:09] Yuiko
Well, since it's only a five-minute run-time,
[05:14] Yuiko
there weren't a whole lot
of actual lines to record.
[05:18] Yuiko
But I was struck by how different
it was from the source material.
[05:23] Yuiko
And because of that difference in tone,
[05:25] Yuiko
deciding how to voice her
was more spur-of-the-moment.
[05:29] Yuiko
That was the main feeling I got.
[05:32] Yuiko
And the lack of direction
I got also surprised me.
[05:37] Yuiko
I got nothing from the
director or the audio director.
[05:39] Yuiko
So I'm actually sitting here
feeling kinda nervous about it all.
[05:44] Yuiko
But it was a lot of fun!
[05:45] Yuiko
It was so much fun, but I'm still sorta
nervous about how it'll turn out.
[05:48] Yuiko
I've been looking forward
to hearing how it was taken.
[05:51] Kataoka
Well, she's different
from the manga version.
[05:53] Kataoka
No kidding. She really is!
[05:56] Yuiko
I read the manga a lot before
showing up to the recording,
[05:58] Yuiko
so when I saw the video, I was like,
"Wait, what? This is totally different!"
[06:03] Yuiko
So I'm not sure my response
to that was the right one...
[06:06] Yuiko
But I tried to give the
best performance I could.
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 3 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Shigino Akira
[06:14] Akira
Well, she's almost always
naked in the original manga.
SIGN The reason behind turning the cast into animals
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
[06:19] Akira
But this is TV, and there are
certain things you just can't show.
[06:24] Akira
So instead of using mosaics or something
similarly ugly to cover up the "naughty" bits,
[06:32] Akira
I figured nakedness wasn't
an issue if she was an animal.
[06:36] Akira
That's basically why.
[06:37] Yuiko
I see!
[06:38] Yuiko
So that explains why she was a bunny...
[06:39] Akira
And then...
[06:41] Akira
Actually, all the characters are naked.
[06:42] Yuiko
Right, everyone in the episode is naked.
[06:43] Kataoka
So they are.
[06:46] Kataoka
That's true.
[06:47] Yuiko
I get it now.
[06:48] Kataoka
Animals do walk around naked, after all.
[06:50] Akira
Right.
[06:51] Yuiko
That's such an interesting
way of looking at it.
SIGN What you thought after seeing the animal version of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" for the first time
[06:53] Akira
I didn't predict her transforming
into an animal because of the nudity,
[06:58] Akira
but since the change made
it seem more kid-friendly,
[07:02] Akira
I sorta thought that
was how it should sound.
[07:05] Akira
The art style really gave
me that impression.
[07:07] Akira
But the actual content
is the same as in the manga.
[07:09] Yuiko
Right, exactly! The scenarios
themselves didn't change.
[07:12] Yuiko
There's actually something
I was curious about.
[07:15] Yuiko
There are so many strips. What made
you adapt these particular ones?
[07:19] Akira
Well...
SIGN The reasons behind which strips got chosen for adaptation
in Episode 3 of the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN I just picked out the ones I found funny.
[07:23] Yuiko
I see. As straightforward as that?
[07:25] Akira
Yeah.
[07:27] Yuiko
That makes sense.
[07:28] Akira
I mean, sometimes, when
the author's a woman,
[07:31] Akira
there are things men have
trouble understanding.
[07:36] Akira
And I wanted to avoid those strips,
because I wouldn't know how to approach them,
[07:42] Akira
so I picked out ones that spoke to me.
[07:44] Akira
And since I mostly do comedies,
[07:47] Akira
I wanted ones that a wider
audience would find funny.
[07:52] Akira
So I chose the strips that
worked for me in that sense,
[07:55] Akira
and they're the ones I ended up using.
[07:59] Akira
If I don't personally find something funny,
I have trouble knowing what to do with it.
[08:03] Akira
And I also wanted to have a selection
of characters to bring balance.
[08:08] Akira
So her sister is in it, and Sam's in there,
[08:11] Akira
and I thought about adding her boyfriend in,
but we didn't have enough run-time for that.
[08:16] Akira
The part where the crab walks past...
[08:18] Yuiko
Oh, I remember that!
[08:20] Akira
I would've liked to have done that one.
[08:23] Akira
So it's a bit of a shame.
[08:24] Kataoka
When you look at Maa-kun and Sam...
[08:26] Kataoka
There are a lot of funny guys in the manga.
[08:27] Yuiko
You're so right!
[08:28] Yuiko
The guy who follows her around, too.
[08:30] Kataoka
Right.
[08:30] Yuiko
Ekoda-chan kinda has this free-spirited
approach to her relationships with men.
SIGN On how "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" feels more friendly
as a result of everyone becoming animals
SIGN Shigino Akira
[08:35] Yuiko
There are plenty of examples
of that in the manga, right?
[08:37] Yuiko
So that tends to spring to mind when I think
about it. It leaves a strong impression.
[08:42] Yuiko
And the way this episode glosses over that,
[08:45] Yuiko
and instead, serves up these warm,
conventional kind of jokes...
[08:47] Yuiko
There's something about that...
I'm not sure how to put it...
[08:51] Yuiko
It makes it feel a bit surreal,
and I really loved that about it.
SIGN Difficulties in recording
[08:55] Yuiko
Let's see, what difficulties did we face?
[08:58] Yuiko
The pace was one thing. It was so fast.
[09:01] Yuiko
I mean, it's only five minutes,
so it's just beat after beat after beat,
[09:05] Yuiko
with the story changing
from one moment to the next.
[09:07] Yuiko
It felt like I was struggling to keep up.
[09:12] Yuiko
That's the main thing, yeah.
[09:15] Kataoka
Was there anything you particularly
focused on in your performance?
SIGN Things you paid special attention to, as Ekoda-chan
SIGN Shigino Akira
[09:18] Yuiko
Let's see...
[09:20] Yuiko
Well, instead of trying to stick
closer to the original Ekoda-chan...
[09:25] Yuiko
The one from the manga, I mean,
which I read before coming in...
[09:28] Yuiko
I wanted to try to match the art style,
and the atmosphere of each segment.
[09:34] Yuiko
That's what I decided on seeing them.
[09:35] Yuiko
And that was one bit of direction I got.
[09:38] Yuiko
And I realized, "Oh, right."
[09:40] Yuiko
So what we ended up recording today,
[09:43] Yuiko
the voice that's going
to be in the final product,
[09:47] Yuiko
is what we came up with on the day.
[09:48] Yuiko
It sounded totally different
when I was practicing at home.
[09:51] Yuiko
And I was a little anxious about
how different it turned out.
[09:56] Akira
Sorry about that.
[09:57] Yuiko
Oh, it's totally fine!
[09:58] Yuiko
I was just curious how it turned out,
[10:01] Yuiko
since there wasn't a lot of direction.
[10:04] Yuiko
I got kinda nervous about it...
[10:06] Director
Well, giving lots of specific directions...
[10:10] Director
I mean, I personally don't like that approach.
[10:12] Yuiko
Yeah, but with the other characters...
[10:15] Yuiko
There were quite a lot of retakes for them.
[10:21] Director
Oh, that's a separate issue.
[10:24] Akira
Color, I'd say. I mean, hm. Yeah.
SIGN Things you pay special attention to, as a director
[10:28] Akira
I have to admit, I don't really
like using a huge palette...
[10:35] Akira
Although, the color gets added
after the voice recording,
[10:37] Akira
so we're talking about future stuff here.
[10:40] Akira
But that's the way I like to go with it.
[10:41] Akira
A long time ago, in kids' magazines,
[10:45] Akira
they had pages that were
printed using only four colors.
[10:49] Akira
I want this to have that kind of look to it.
[10:53] Akira
Not bursting with every color under the sun,
but with a sort of cohesion to it.
[11:02] Akira
Something about that
limited palette is soothing.
[11:07] Akira
There are less distractions for the eye.
SIGN Focusing on backgrounds
[11:09] Akira
Something I realized about
backgrounds on "Osomatsu-kun"
[11:14] Akira
was how the backgrounds in
Akatsuka-san's manga were really just lines.
[11:19] Akira
So they're just symbolic, really.
[11:21] Akira
Ever since then, I've felt like, all
backgrounds need to do is get the idea across.
[11:25] Kataoka
I understand what you mean.
[11:26] Akira
A lot of times when I see more
realistic backgrounds nowadays,
[11:29] Akira
I think to myself that it doesn't really work.
[11:32] Akira
Other than that, one of my
favorite background artists
[11:37] Akira
is a woman who did the
backgrounds on "Shizuku-chan."
[11:44] Akira
So when I was doing the "Shin-chan" movie,
[11:47] Akira
I found out the company she was working
at did stuff for the "Shin-chan" TV series,
[11:52] Akira
so I asked her to head up
the art side of things.
[11:57] Akira
We came up with this sort of...
strange setting for it.
[12:01] Akira
And she's good at that, and
giving it a personality of sorts.
SIGN Regarding the 12 Directors and 12 Ekoda-chans
[12:04] Akira
With 12 directors, you get lots of variation...
[12:06] Yuiko
Yeah, that totally makes sense.
[12:07] Akira
Different background artists, too.
[12:08] Kataoka
More than anything I've done before,
this project has really made me appreciate
[12:12] Kataoka
the role the director plays
in the production of a show.
[12:16] Kataoka
It's incredible how many different tools
you have to expand your own interpretation.
[12:21] Kataoka
And it results in an animation style
no one else would come up with.
[12:25] Akira
I think it's rather flattering
[12:28] Akira
that I was chosen as one of the 12 directors.
[12:28] Yuiko
Right!
[12:30] Yuiko
You did a great job!
[12:30] Kataoka
Nobody else would've thought of animals.
[12:32] Yuiko
You're on a whole other level!
[12:34] Yuiko
No one else would've come up with that.
[12:36] Yuiko
I was so surprised!
[12:36] Kataoka
Especially considering how cute they are.
[12:38] Yuiko
Right!
[12:39] Yuiko
To think that something that looks like
this could've been inspired by Ekoda-chan...
[12:43] Akira
Well, there are 12 voice actresses, too.
[12:45] Yuiko
Oh, yeah, and they'll all have
their own take on the character.
[12:48] Akira
People might compare...
[12:49] Yuiko
Ah, don't say that!
[12:50] Yuiko
I think, because the content is
so different for each episode,
SIGN After the break,
we'll talk about the characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan"
[12:53] Yuiko
I'm not as worried as
I would be otherwise.
[12:56] Yuiko
"Well, of course! It's meant to be different!"
[12:59] Yuiko
That's what I'll say.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 3's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tatsumi Yuiko
SIGN Episode 3's Director
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
In the first half, we chatted about how
Ekoda-chan had been turned into a bunny!
[13:10] Narrator
In the second half,
we'll hear what they thought
[13:13] Narrator
about the various characters
in "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
[13:16] Narrator
Not only that, we'll hear about when
Director Shigino was 24 years old.
SIGN The characters of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Shigino Akira
[13:25] Question
Your favorite lines from "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
SIGN Shigino Akira
[13:25] Yuiko
Well, it wasn't actually one of my lines.
[13:30] Yuiko
But out of all the
characters, I like Sam a lot.
[13:34] Kataoka
Sam?
[13:35] Yuiko
He's the foreign guy.
[13:36] Yuiko
I really like it when he
shows up in the manga.
[13:39] Yuiko
And when I saw the line: "And one
or two... will have died," in the script,
[13:42] Yuiko
I was like, "There it is!"
I got a bit excited about that.
SIGN Favorite stories from the original "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" manga
[13:45] Yuiko
I like how Ekoda-chan's kind of...
What do I want to say?
[13:51] Yuiko
She doesn't think things through,
she's just spontaneous,
[13:54] Yuiko
and often, things don't work out
like she thought they would.
[13:57] Yuiko
I can seriously relate to that.
[14:00] Yuiko
She did this one thing that I'd done in real
life myself, and it made me laugh hard.
[14:04] Yuiko
It was at a time when
I'd gotten tired of eating hotpot.
[14:07] Yuiko
I was just putting kelp and stock in,
[14:09] Yuiko
and since I had it all the time,
I was getting bored of it.
[14:12] Yuiko
So I tried to liven it up with some miso,
but it just became miso soup.
[14:16] Yuiko
And she literally did the same thing!
[14:19] Yuiko
"Oh, maybe it'd be tasty with some miso in it!"
[14:21] Yuiko
But then, it's seriously just
miso soup! A big pot full of it!
[14:24] Yuiko
I remember how depressed it made me.
[14:26] Yuiko
When I saw her do it, too,
I was just like, "Wow, same."
[14:31] Yuiko
It really made me realize I'm not
alone in doing really goofy things.
SIGN The character of "Big Sis"
[14:36] Akira
Her sister is really cute.
[14:39] Akira
Though, I really wanted to make her
take a long drag on a cigarette.
[14:42] Kataoka
Right, right.
[14:43] Yuiko
That didn't work.
[14:43] Akira
But y'know, it's anime, so I figured, maybe not.
[14:45] Yuiko
It was a selfie instead.
[14:46] Kataoka
We were asked not to use cigarettes,
[14:49] Kataoka
so we went with the smartphone, instead.
[14:51] Kataoka
I think out of all the characters,
her sister is the simplest to understand.
[14:55] Kataoka
The "bird of prey" is much
harder by comparison.
SIGN The "bird of prey" archetype
[14:59] Kataoka
The "bird of prey" is a hard one.
[15:01] Kataoka
The idea that such girls exist...
[15:03] Kataoka
I mean, I believe people when say they've
met one, but I've never met one, personally.
[15:08] Kataoka
Do they actually exist?
[15:10] Yuiko
"Birds of prey"?
[15:12] Yuiko
Well, there are these women
[15:13] Yuiko
who are loved by everyone, aren't there?
[15:14] Akira
And those are "birds of prey"?
[15:16] Yuiko
I'm not sure if they really are, or if
that's just how Ekoda-chan sees them.
[15:19] Yuiko
The thing is, the "birds of prey" Ekoda-chan
talks about aren't doing anything wrong.
[15:23] Yuiko
The way they sorta... just pretend
to be airheads, you know?
[15:27] Yuiko
I don't know if that's an
outdated way of putting it!
[15:31] Yuiko
But the way they do that, and then,
treat other women with contempt...
[15:34] Yuiko
That's a horrible trait you see
a lot in that type of woman,
[15:39] Yuiko
but for Ekoda-chan,
the "bird of prey" isn't like that.
[15:42] Yuiko
Which actually makes
Ekoda-chan more frustrated!
[15:45] Yuiko
But I really like how
she gets all sensitive about it.
[15:49] Kataoka
Ekoda-chan's reaction, you mean?
[15:50] Yuiko
Right!
[15:50] Yuiko
Like, it irritates her, but she
can't actually get mad about it.
[15:53] Yuiko
I really like that about her.
[15:55] Kataoka
Her "let's steer clear of this" attitude?
[15:57] Yuiko
Right, right! That's it exactly.
[15:59] Kataoka
How she doesn't want to pick a fight,
[16:00] Yuiko
Right, right! Precisely.
[16:01] Kataoka
but also wants nothing to do with them.
[16:02] Yuiko
In the manga, she says she doesn't
want to turn into one of them.
[16:07] Akira
The funniest part with the "bird of prey"
[16:09] Akira
was when she was going,
"Look, a birdie! Look, a kitty!"
[16:13] Akira
Then, "It's a moo cow!"
while she's eating beef.
[16:17] Akira
Something about that really
made her a figure of fun for me.
[16:21] Yuiko
The guy she was with... Was he a horse?
SIGN He's a dog
[16:23] Yuiko
Some sort of... horsey boyfriend?
[16:23] Akira
I think it was a dog.
[16:25] Yuiko
So he was a dog?
[16:27] Yuiko
The way he just grins the whole time...
That left an impression.
[16:32] Kataoka
His neck seemed long for a dog.
[16:34] Akira
Oh, was he a horse, then?
[16:36] Yuiko
I kinda thought he was.
[16:37] Akira
The characters were all
designed by the same person.
[16:39] Yuiko
Oh, that's how it was done?
[16:41] Yuiko
There are lots of different animals.
[16:43] Akira
I think I asked for a dog
when I laid out what I wanted.
[16:45] Yuiko
I see...
[16:46] Yuiko
Well, maybe it's in the eye of the beholder.
SIGN Is there anything about the characters you relate to?
[16:49] Kataoka
I tend not to overthink things,
[16:52] Kataoka
and I usually think, as long
as it's funny, anything goes.
[16:57] Kataoka
But the thing about having a woman
as the protagonist, it's kinda...
[17:02] Kataoka
I know how this might sound to some,
[17:05] Kataoka
but when it's something like
"Ashita no Joe," it's easier to empathize.
[17:09] Kataoka
But when it's a female main character...
[17:11] Yuiko
I know what you mean.
[17:12] Akira
First of all, I find it hard to
believe she's naked all the time.
[17:16] Akira
That's one thing I can't identify with, at all.
[17:18] Yuiko
So you basically have trouble
with the whole premise!
[17:21] Akira
I don't think I'd like someone like that.
[17:23] Akira
I definitely wouldn't want to
be in a relationship with her.
[17:25] Akira
I mean, being butt naked
at home all the time...
[17:28] Kataoka
Well, there are nudists out there.
[17:30] Akira
Well, yes, but even so...
[17:31] Akira
I don't think most men are nudists.
[17:32] Kataoka
Yeah, I agree with that.
[17:34] Yuiko
So there are more women nudists?
[17:34] Kataoka
You always have drawers on at least...
[17:36] Akira
I mean, you've got to have underwear on.
[17:39] Yuiko
Yeah, I've never heard of anything like it.
[17:42] Akira
So because of that...
[17:43] Akira
It's like, the first thing I notice about
her is something I can't relate to.
[17:47] Yuiko
Makes sense, with the way Ekoda-chan is.
[17:50] Kataoka
I see.
SIGN Going into the recording, did you see any similarities
between yourself and Ekoda-chan?
[17:51] Yuiko
Well, let's see...
And this might just be because
[17:54] Yuiko
of the particular strips that
were picked out for the episode,
[17:58] Yuiko
but I agree with what
Director Shigino said...
[18:03] Yuiko
That it's less about how Ekoda-chan
lives her life, and her values...
[18:08] Yuiko
and more about the comedy value of
the stories, and how fast-paced they are,
[18:13] Yuiko
so I didn't think too deeply
about it in the recording.
[18:17] Yuiko
I was more focused on the tempo of the
story when I was giving my performance.
SIGN When he was 24...
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Shigino Akira x Tatsumi Yuiko
[18:28] Kataoka
Putting aside whether you do
the things depicted or not...
[18:31] Yuiko
I really don't!
[18:32] Yuiko
Is there anything about what she
does that you find impressive?
SIGN Do you think Ekoda-chan is admirable?
SIGN Shigino Akira
[18:35] Yuiko
Anything that strikes
you as being admirable?
[18:37] Yuiko
It's a good question.
[18:39] Yuiko
I mean, she's 24 years old, right?
[18:42] Yuiko
Well, I'm 31 right now,
and considering her age...
[18:48] Yuiko
It makes me wonder what kind
of person she'll be at my age.
[18:52] Yuiko
I mean, when I was 24...
[18:55] Yuiko
I was sort of... still a snot-nosed punk, really.
[18:59] Yuiko
But here is an adult woman!
[19:01] Kataoka
True.
[19:01] Yuiko
She seems really grown up!
[19:03] Yuiko
It makes me wonder if
she's actually older than me.
[19:06] Yuiko
So she seems like she's
from a different world,
[19:08] Yuiko
but I'd kinda like to have
the bohemian life she does.
[19:12] Yuiko
I mean, it's completely different from mine.
[19:14] Kataoka
So in your next life, you might try it?
[19:16] Yuiko
Well, maybe not!
[19:17] Yuiko
Let's say, three or four lives down the road.
[19:19] Kataoka
Right, I understand.
[19:21] Yuiko
I'm just curious how it'd turn out.
SIGN Stories from when Director Shigino was 24, Ekoda-chan's age
[19:24] Akira
When I was 24, or around that age,
[19:27] Akira
I started working in anime.
[19:28] Yuiko
Oh, really?
[19:29] Akira
I started relatively late.
[19:31] Akira
At first, I was working at Tatsunoko...
[19:34] Akira
at the age of 24.
[19:35] Akira
I see, I see.
[19:36] Akira
I was involved with the "Time
Bokan" series and "Yatterman."
[19:42] Akira
I seriously worked my butt off.
SIGN Why he started working on anime
[19:45] Akira
I actually wanted to be a manga artist,
and that's why I came to Tokyo.
[19:52] Akira
But it's not that easy to just
become a manga artist,
[19:56] Akira
so I was doing lots of different jobs,
making my way through life.
[20:00] Akira
One job and then, another...
Just this and that, you know?
[20:05] Akira
And then, one day, I saw an ad for Tatsunoko.
[20:10] Akira
And I thought, "Well, it's not manga,
but anime is kinda similar,
[20:14] Akira
so I might as well give it a try."
[20:16] Akira
I was pretty casual about it.
[20:18] Akira
I started the job without knowing a thing
about how anime was actually made.
[20:21] Yuiko
So it wasn't because you
particularly liked anime?
[20:24] Akira
I didn't even know what
shows Tatsunoko made.
[20:27] Yuiko
It's impressive how you started like that
[20:29] Yuiko
and just kept going!
[20:29] Akira
Yeah, it really is.
[20:31] Akira
I mean, I've been in the biz forty years now.
[20:33] Yuiko
That's amazing...
SIGN Your thoughts on today
[20:35] Yuiko
I've watched the live-action
show, and read the manga,
[20:39] Yuiko
so I honestly wasn't sure
if I was capable of...
[20:42] Yuiko
well, this kinda surreal,
but also hard to pin down,
[20:48] Yuiko
character of Ekoda-chan,
who's a real free spirit.
[20:53] Yuiko
But after seeing the scenes
Director Shigino had chosen,
[20:58] Yuiko
and the heartwarming look
of the super cute artwork...
[21:03] Yuiko
It was kind of a different spin
on Ekoda-chan from the original,
[21:08] Yuiko
and I was really glad
I got to take the character
[21:12] Yuiko
in such a unique direction.
[21:15] Yuiko
Then, after actually coming in today,
and having a great time doing the recording,
[21:19] Yuiko
and even getting to do this round
table, it was all very interesting.
[21:23] Yuiko
Getting to spend even a little bit of time
in Ekoda-chan's shoes made me really happy.
[21:29] Yuiko
I'm really glad to have been involved,
and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
[21:32] Akira
It was my first time meeting
a lot of the folks who worked on this.
[21:36] Akira
And that was probably the most fun I had.
[21:38] Akira
And this is only maybe
my third time in this studio...
[21:42] Akira
I haven't come here much before.
[21:44] Akira
So there's an overall feeling of freshness,
[21:46] Akira
along with sorta being disappointed
[21:50] Akira
that it's all over after today.
[21:53] Yuiko
Since it turned out well...
[21:54] Akira
Like, "Don't bother coming in next week!"
[21:56] Yuiko
Even if you want to.
[21:57] Kataoka
That's true.
[21:59] Kataoka
It was fun.
[22:00] Kataoka
I mean, that said, there's
still a lot of work to do.
[22:06] Kataoka
And I'm gonna do my best to produce
a really entertaining Ekoda-chan.
[22:08] Kataoka
Okay.
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
SIGN Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
we'll hear from the director of Episode 4
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:19] Narrator
on whether or not he thinks
Ekoda-chan is his type.
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan
[22:23] Narrator
Ekoda-chan's voice actress
will ask the burning question!
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan
[22:27] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Dog carrier
SIGN Face
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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[00:00] ---
The Novice Bunny
[00:01] Ekoda
Whenever I was on my own in preschool...
[00:03] Teacher
You'll have more fun with the others.
[00:06] Ekoda
But I was already having fun...
[00:09] Ekoda
Whenever I went to the
bathroom by myself at school...
[00:12] Bystanders
What
[00:12] Bystanders
What is
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing all by herself?
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing all
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing all by
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing all by her
[00:12] Bystanders
What is she doing all by herself
[00:13] Bystanders
What is she doing all by herself?
[00:13] Bystanders
Does
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't she
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't she have
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't she have any
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't she have any friends?
[00:13] Bystanders
Doesn't she have any fr
[00:14] Bystanders
Doesn't she have any friends
[00:14] Bystanders
Doesn't she have any friends?
[00:15] Ekoda
What a weird thing to assume.
[00:18] Ekoda
And now...
[00:19] Headline
Pokomaruko found dead, aged 77
[00:20] News
Well-known celebrity, Pokomaruko-san,
has been found dead at his home.
[00:24] Ekoda
Wait, that's what happens when you die alone?!
[00:28] Ekoda
But...
[00:30] Ekoda
I get the feeling, if I died right now,
it'd be an even lonelier way to go.
[00:33] Ma
Hey, it's me. You awake?
[00:36] Ekoda
And then, there's...
[00:37] Guy
Can I come over tonight?
[00:39] Girl
No...
[00:40] Ekoda
Or maybe this...
[00:40] Guy
Can I...
[00:42] Girl
No.
[00:43] Ekoda
And after that...
[00:44] Guy
Are you ready?
[00:46] Girl
No!
[00:46] Ekoda
And such...
[00:47] Ekoda
Saying "no" when she really
means "yes." Typical woman.
[00:51] Ekoda
But...
[00:53] Ekoda
Women will also say "yes"
when they really mean "no."
[00:57] Ma
Mind if I head back now?
[00:59] Ekoda
Go ahead.
SIGN The Queens of Eros:
SIGN A Frank Discussion!?
SIGN Run
SIGN Eros!
[01:02] Guest
Well, men actually go inside*
a woman's body, right?*
[01:07] Guest
So I want them to know
who I am on the inside, too.
[01:11] Ekoda
I get you.
[01:13] Ekoda
Maa-kun knows me from inside.
From my warm, living insides, right?
[01:18] Ekoda
And yet...
[01:19] Ekoda
It feels like he doesn't
even acknowledge I'm alive!
[01:24] Ma
Right now? Yeah, I'm alone.
[01:31] Ekoda
A bike lock hanging on a guard rail.
[01:33] Ekoda
I see this every now and then,
but I wonder what it signifies?
SIGN Someone stole the bike
[01:38] Ekoda
But how?
SIGN The owner left the lock behind
[01:42] Ekoda
Why would they do that?
[01:44] Ekoda
The more I think about it,
the more it puzzles me.
[01:47] Ekoda
I mean...
[01:48] Ekoda
For the symbol of wanting to hold on
to be the only thing that's left...
[01:53] Ekoda
It's just too much!
[01:57] Ekoda
I was chatting to one of Maa-kun's friends...
[02:00] Friend
Oh, yeah, he broke up with his girlfriend.
[02:04] Ekoda
That's what he told me!
Why didn't you say anything?
[02:07] Ma
It's not like it's any of your business.
[02:10] Ekoda
None of my business? Seriously?
[02:13] Ma
It's not like I said we'd start
dating if I broke up with her.
[02:17] Ma
Anyway, there's this other
chick I wanna get with.
[02:20] Ekoda
Oh. I'm not even sure how to react to that...
[02:26] Ekoda
So how'd it work out with
that girl you wanted to date?
[02:30] Ma
Not much to tell. I mean,
you fool around plenty, too, don't you?
[02:34] Ekoda
Only because you say you
don't want to be my boyfriend.
[02:37] Ma
So it's all my fault?
[02:39] Ma
That there is why I don't want to.
[02:41] Ekoda
I wasn't always like this, you know!
[02:43] Ma
Yeah, you were.
[02:46] Ekoda
I can't believe you can just say stuff
like that to me like it's nothing!
[02:50] Ma
It's not like I wanted to say it.
[02:55] Ekoda
I've become a ghost without even realizing...
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we unveil the director
of Episode 4: Mochizuki Tomomi,
SIGN Director
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Chiba Chiemi-san.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Chiba Chiemi
[04:02] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" is the second
project they've worked on together.
SIGN Episode 4's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Chiba Chiemi
SIGN Episode 4's Director
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi
[04:06] Narrator
They'll be asking each other
some rather frank questions.
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
[04:17] Chiba
The first time was on "Rozen Maiden."
SIGN This is the second time Director Mochizuki and Chiba-san
have worked together
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[04:19] Tomo
Oh, right, right.
[04:20] Chiba
Yeah. We worked together on that.
[04:24] Chiba
When I was auditioning for
"Rozen Maiden," He was there...
SIGN Episode 4's Director
Mochizuki Tomomi
SIGN Episode 4's Ekoda-san
Chiba Chiemi
[04:29] Chiba
And when you've done your reading,
[04:32] Chiba
you go to the other side of the glass and say,
"Thank you for the opportunity," right?
[04:35] Chiba
And when I was auditioning,
[04:36] Chiba
this guy had his whole body weight up
against the glass, glaring.
[04:39] Chiba
But I didn't really know who he was,
[04:41] Chiba
so I was just like, "Wow, that guy's really
glaring at me," and then, went home.
[04:45] Chiba
And then, after that...
The next day, I got the call,
[04:50] Chiba
and found out he was the sound director.
[04:52] Chiba
And I realized, "Oh, that
was the sound director!"
[04:54] Tomo
Sorry for glaring...
[04:56] Chiba
That was some crazy leaning
you were doing, too.
[04:59] Tomo
On "Rozen Maiden,"
[05:01] Tomo
I didn't direct the actual episodes.
I was the sound director at the time.
[05:07] Tomo
Yeah, I was at your audition, and that's
where I saw you and wanted to cast you.
[05:11] Chiba
Oh, thank you.
[05:12] Tomo
Well, from what I'd read
of the Ekoda-chan manga,
SIGN Why Chiba-san was offered the role of Ekoda-chan
[05:19] Tomo
she was a bit of an enigma,
and hard to understand,
[05:24] Tomo
and I thought Chiba-san would be a good fit.
[05:28] Tomo
I thought she'd be good at
accentuating that side of Ekoda-chan.
[05:33] Chiba
Thank you very much.
[05:35] Chiba
When I read it, I found it kinda complex.
SIGN Impressions of Ekoda-chan
[05:40] Chiba
Seriously, it was just so complex...
[05:43] Chiba
So much so that, when I came
into the studio today, I was like:
[05:48] Chiba
"What do I do?"
[05:50] Chiba
I mean, she's a really
complicated girl, isn't she?
[05:54] Chiba
I mean, I never know what's gonna set her off.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[06:00] Chiba
Because she's drifting through life,
seeming all disinterested,
[06:05] Chiba
and you think, maybe that's how she likes it,
[06:10] Chiba
but there's this ill-defined line
she crosses emotionally sometimes.
[06:15] Chiba
And she's got this sorta... scary side to her,
[06:19] Chiba
where you don't know what she's
gonna do when she finally blows.
[06:23] Chiba
That actually makes me
really curious about something.
[06:26] Chiba
As a man... when you look at Ekoda-chan...
[06:32] Chiba
Would you?
SIGN Looking at Ekoda-chan as a man... would you?
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
[06:35] Tomo
Well, I dunno if this is my opinion as a man...
[06:38] Chiba
Right.
[06:39] Chiba
You're not a man?
[06:39] Tomo
But for me, personally...
[06:41] Tomo
No, no, I didn't mean that.
I mean, speaking just for myself...
[06:45] Tomo
I would.
[06:46] Chiba
You would?
[06:47] Tomo
I think, if Ekoda-chan was a real person,
SIGN Director Mochizuki would, with Ekoda-chan
[06:50] Tomo
she'd look sort of plain, I guess.
[06:54] Tomo
If you contrast her to the "birds of prey"
that also appear in the manga,
[06:59] Tomo
Ekoda-chan doesn't go out of her
way to make herself look cute.
[07:05] Tomo
And she's sort of got
this edge to her, you know?
[07:08] Tomo
Simply put, both of those
traits make her my type.
[07:12] Chiba
I see.
[07:13] Tomo
Right.
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 4 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[07:19] Tomo
Well, my usual job is making the
animation. That's what I normally do.
SIGN From your perspective, did you feel like Chiba-san's reading
perfectly matched the animation?
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
[07:25] Tomo
But for Ekoda-chan, as the voice track
got added, along with all the other audio,
[07:33] Tomo
I wasn't exactly sure how
it would affect her character.
[07:39] Tomo
Maybe not so much that
I didn't know but more like,
[07:42] Tomo
there were a lot of different
ways it could've gone.
[07:45] Tomo
I didn't have any particular preference
for how I wanted the role to be performed.
[07:53] Tomo
And in general, I don't
tend to go into recordings
[07:56] Tomo
with a lot of preconceived notions
on how I think something should sound.
[07:59] Tomo
I figured Chiba-san could
just do her own thing.
[08:01] Tomo
Sorry if that sounds dismissive,
[08:03] Tomo
but I'm saying it was your choice because
you played the lead this time.
[08:07] Tomo
And I thought you'd come up
with something that'd make me go:
[08:11] Tomo
"I get it now! That's how it can work!"
[08:14] Tomo
And as long as the result was satisfying,
[08:16] Tomo
that was the main thing.
[08:17] Chiba
And was it?
[08:18] Tomo
Yes, it was.
[08:18] Chiba
Oh, phew.
[08:20] Chiba
Going in, I kept thinking, "What should I do?"
and I didn't know how to approach voicing her,
SIGN What directions
did Director Mochizuki give you?
[08:28] Chiba
even after looking through the script,
[08:33] Chiba
because she doesn't really do flirty,
[08:35] Chiba
and she doesn't put on a cutesy voice
when she's around him, either.
[08:40] Chiba
And I understood all of this,
but it made it really challenging for me,
[08:46] Chiba
so I was panicking a bit going into it!
[08:50] Chiba
But when I got here, just before we started,
[08:55] Chiba
I said, "I'm not sure what to do.
This is really hard."
[08:59] Chiba
So he gave me a broad outline,
[09:03] Chiba
reiterating the things I'd also
got from reading the manga...
[09:07] Chiba
But after that, regarding
the performance itself?
[09:13] Chiba
It went along the lines of: "Don't be tense.
Just go with whatever's natural."
[09:18] Chiba
And I was like, "Okay, then."
[09:20] Tomo
For this show, there wasn't, uh,
what you'd call an audition process.
[09:27] Tomo
So I left her in your hands.
[09:30] Tomo
And if anything sounded weird,
then it'd just be your fault.
[09:38] Chiba
I'm sorry!
[09:38] Tomo
That was how I felt going into it, anyway.
[09:42] Tomo
But I picked you for the role because
I didn't think there'd be any problems. Yeah.
[09:47] Tomo
There were gradations used for her skin.
SIGN Coloring techniques
[09:52] Tomo
That was something fresh.
[09:55] Tomo
With animation, you normally draw a line
where the color changes to indicate shading,
[09:59] Tomo
but this time, we made the edges
slightly lighter, using a gradation.
[10:03] Chiba
And that was special.
[10:05] Tomo
We only did it for skin tones.
[10:05] Tomo
For this time.
[10:07] Tomo
The coloring for everything
else was done a bit more flatly.
[10:10] Tomo
But by doing that with the skin,
[10:12] Tomo
it gave it more of a physical,
maybe even visceral, presence.
[10:15] Tomo
I didn't want it to look too flat, because
it'd look too comical for the material.
[10:19] Chiba
I see. Having to consider
all of that stuff must be tough.
[10:23] Tomo
It's actually something that,
because of how short the run-time is...
[10:27] Chiba
It made it possible?
[10:28] Tomo
Right. The short run-time allowed us to
try something unique with the coloring.
[10:34] Tomo
Something like that would be too much
work on a full-length TV series.
[10:37] Tomo
We also used lots of instruments
to make the sound effects.
SIGN Things you can do with the shorter format
[10:40] Tomo
Since it was so short, that was
something we could play with.
[10:43] Chiba
I can see how making all those noises would
become a chore for a 30-minute show.
[10:47] Tomo
Exactly.
[10:49] Tomo
That's why traditional sound effects
tend to get used most of the time.
[10:53] Tomo
But since this was short, I thought we could
try something a little out of the ordinary.
[10:59] Chiba
When I saw the art in motion...
When I saw that...
SIGN Touches used in portraying Ekoda-chan
[11:04] Chiba
I noticed she doesn't really move
a whole lot, but it's sort of...
[11:07] Chiba
I wouldn't call it expressive,
in spite of how conservative it is,
[11:12] Chiba
but it was really striking how
the art carried you through the story.
[11:17] Chiba
I wanted to make sure
I didn't go overboard. Like...
[11:22] Chiba
I thought, if I really went for it,
there'd be a disconnect,
[11:27] Chiba
so I tried to rein it in a bit.
[11:30] Chiba
I mean, it wasn't a hard and fast rule,
but I was trying to sorta be restrained.
[11:35] Chiba
Because I think that's
the kind of girl she is,
[11:40] Chiba
and the art gave that impression, too.
[11:42] Kataoka
Right.
[11:44] Chiba
So I didn't want to be too over-the-top.
[11:48] Chiba
And that's actually harder to do,
since just shouting things is pretty easy.
[11:53] Chiba
And today, there was that promo
we did... That was seriously tough.
[11:59] Chiba
I probably shouldn't say that!
[12:01] Kataoka
It's fine.
[12:02] Chiba
It was quite a challenge.
[12:04] Chiba
Compared to just going,
"Ah! It's on sale now!" and cutting loose,
[12:08] Chiba
or in this case, "Go watch
it now!" in a loud voice,
[12:11] Chiba
it was more like, "You can watch it now."
[12:16] Chiba
I can use that momentum and go all out,
[12:19] Chiba
but Ekoda-chan isn't like that at all.
[12:23] Chiba
She's so very, very restrained but
she still needs to be all, "You can watch it."
[12:30] Chiba
So, compared to most
of the characters I've done,
[12:35] Chiba
she was a real challenge.
For me, anyway.
[12:38] Tomo
But when we went in
and recorded that promo,
[12:43] Tomo
it ended up being pretty different
from how you sounded in the episode.
[12:49] Chiba
I kinda wanted to make her sound
like she was reading from a script.
SIGN After the break,
thoughts on men!!
[12:52] Tomo
I see, I see.
[12:53] Tomo
I think the end result gave off a good
"If you want to watch it, then watch it" vibe.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 4's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Chiba Chiemi
SIGN Episode 4's Director
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:07] Narrator
Reunited once more on another project,
[13:09] Narrator
Director Mochizuki Tomomi
and Chiba Chiemi-san
[13:12] Narrator
spent the first half discussing
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
[13:15] Narrator
In the second half, they'll discuss
how Ekoda-chan deals with men.
SIGN The characters of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Strips you would've liked to have adapted other than
the ones already in Episode 4 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
[13:26] Tomo
When taking the manga as a whole,
[13:29] Tomo
I really like the character of Friend M.
[13:31] Kataoka
Right.
[13:32] Kataoka
She's a good one.
[13:32] Tomo
I like how cool she is,
[13:34] Tomo
but in a different way from Ekoda-chan.
[13:36] Tomo
When I first got the offer to
work on the anime adaptation,
[13:42] Tomo
I actually went through the manga
and marked every strip she appeared in.
[13:51] Tomo
There's one in particular where Ekoda-chan
and Friend M go on a group date,
[13:57] Tomo
and they start judging the men
like it's some kind of pageant.
[14:02] Tomo
But I ended up taking
a different approach,
[14:05] Tomo
and decided to center the episode
around Maa-kun instead.
[14:11] Tomo
To be honest, all the
characters are really entertaining.
[14:14] Tomo
Or rather, they have depth to them.
[14:17] Chiba
Speaking as an actress,
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN All the characters are deep
[14:20] Chiba
I think her conversations with
her sister are really amusing.
[14:23] Kataoka
They really are.
[14:24] Chiba
And the way it plays up their different
standings in society is really good.
[14:29] Chiba
I mean, her sister is also sort of...
She's a character with her own quirks,
[14:34] Chiba
but whenever I saw the two
of them playing off each other,
[14:40] Chiba
I always thought those
moments were entertaining.
[14:45] Tomo
If you were playing her sister,
how would you make her sound?
[14:51] Chiba
Big Sis, huh? Big Sis...
[14:55] Chiba
But, y'know, it would really depend...
on how Ekoda-chan sounds.
SIGN A performance can change depending on
how the other person approaches a scene
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
[15:01] Chiba
Like, depending on what Maa-kun
does first can really set the tone,
[15:05] Chiba
since she's initially
trying to feel him out.
[15:09] Chiba
Sort of like, "How's he going to be?
How's he going to be? He's such a natural..."
[15:14] Chiba
So I think, if I was playing her sister,
the delivery would change a lot...
[15:23] Chiba
based on how the person
playing Ekoda-chan did their take.
[15:31] Tomo
I see.
SIGN Do you want to draw her sister?
[15:33] Tomo
Personally, I don't think I need to.
[15:37] Tomo
I mean, if she shows up in the other
episodes, and they turn out well,
[15:42] Tomo
then, yeah, that'd be really great.
[15:46] Tomo
But in terms of depicting her
myself, I'd find it really hard.
[15:49] Tomo
Because I don't understand her one bit.
[15:52] Tomo
I mean, I wouldn't feel right just having
her act stupid and that being the joke,
[15:58] Tomo
and because it's complicated,
I'd rather avoid it altogether.
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN What Ekoda-chan
thinks about men
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN On Ekoda-chan's thoughts about men
SIGN Mochizuki Tomomi x Chiba Chiemi
[16:08] Chiba
I seriously don't understand her.
[16:10] Chiba
How she sort of...
[16:15] Chiba
When it comes to men...
And this includes Maa-kun...
[16:22] Chiba
I just don't get it!
[16:25] Kataoka
You couldn't live like that?
[16:27] Chiba
I definitely couldn't! No way.
[16:30] Tomo
But seeing how she interacts with men,
and how she looks at them,
[16:37] Tomo
and how, internally,
[16:39] Tomo
she just finds them ridiculous.
[16:40] Chiba
She does tend to mock them a lot.
[16:43] Tomo
Isn't that something you can relate to?
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Ekoda-chan is the type to keep her catty comments to herself
[16:46] Chiba
Yeah, but...
[16:48] Chiba
When I think of something
nasty, I blurt it out!
[16:52] Chiba
I'll just say it and cause
all sorts of problems.
[16:55] Chiba
To me, not actually saying these things,
and just thinking them in a detached way...
[17:02] Chiba
That's really impressive.
[17:04] Kataoka
You see how often she gets back home
[17:05] Kataoka
and just bangs on the wall in frustration.
[17:06] Chiba
Right, right.
[17:07] Kataoka
You don't have anything like that?
You tend to just bang on them in the moment?
[17:10] Chiba
Well, I don't always give them
a piece of my mind in every instance,
[17:13] Chiba
because I'm an adult, but...
[17:15] Tomo
Putting aside whether or not you
actually express it in the moment,
[17:19] Tomo
the way she thinks about men who are
being stupid, and her opinions of them,
[17:23] Tomo
I think that's something that's
pretty universal in women.
[17:31] Tomo
What do you think?
SIGN Chiba-san's thoughts when she sees guys being stupid
[17:32] Chiba
I dunno, I wonder about that, because
that sort of feeling towards men...
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
[17:38] Chiba
Y'know, when you're just
like, "Ugh," about them?
[17:40] Chiba
I don't think it's all that
different from how you feel
[17:44] Chiba
when you see women
that you think are stupid.
[17:48] Chiba
I'm not too sure that gender
plays much of a role in it.
[17:56] Chiba
Because when I think,
"Ugh," it applies universally.
[18:00] Chiba
And I won't bite my tongue when it happens.
[18:02] Chiba
And the way that she does,
and keeps everything internal...
[18:09] Chiba
It's really mature.
[18:11] Chiba
It's impressive. I mean, she's 24.
[18:13] Chiba
I think that's seriously impressive.
[18:14] Kataoka
Yeah, she's only 24.
[18:16] Chiba
I mean, when I was 24,
I was still a total dummy.
[18:22] Tomo
I actually think, and
I've never met the author,
[18:27] Tomo
but you get the impression Ekoda-chan's
creator is quite impressive herself.
SIGN Being impressed with Takinami Yukari, as a reader
[18:33] Tomo
As a reader, it's a manga I learned a lot from.
[18:39] Tomo
There's this phrase, and I don't know
if it was used as a slogan or something,
[18:44] Tomo
but I remember it being called:
"A bible for women; a guide for men."
[18:48] Tomo
But I took a lot away from it.
[18:50] Tomo
It scared me quite a bit, too.
[18:53] Tomo
Gave me lots to be wary about.
SIGN Thoughts on today
[18:56] Tomo
It wasn't a lot of material, in terms
of run-time. It was really short...
[19:00] Chiba
Right.
[19:01] Chiba
I think that might've been a factor
[19:02] Tomo
Oh, definitely.
[19:02] Chiba
in how difficult it was.
[19:03] Tomo
I... I was actually about to say that...
[19:05] Chiba
Oh, sorry, I stepped on your toes!
[19:08] Tomo
It's fine. And the thing is,
I think it was worth taking on,
[19:11] Tomo
and I hope people get something out of it.
[19:15] Tomo
I mean, I've been making anime
for 30-something years now...
[19:19] Tomo
And what I realized working on this is,
[19:23] Tomo
sure, you're only doing enough art
to fill three minutes of airtime,
[19:27] Tomo
which, compared to a 30-minute
anime, is a lot less work,
[19:32] Tomo
and in one sense,
that makes it easier, but...
[19:34] Tomo
Making a quality product with
a run-time of only three minutes,
[19:40] Tomo
and one you're satisfied with,
is by no means, an easy feat.
[19:43] Tomo
If anything, because it's over so fast,
[19:48] Tomo
it's kind of hard to make sure
everything falls into place.
[19:51] Tomo
Although, today, after we'd finished
recording, I was rather relieved.
[19:57] Tomo
Even though I've been doing
this job for as long as I have,
[20:01] Tomo
I find there still aren't many
times when I feel I can relax,
[20:04] Tomo
because I've gotten used to the stress.
[20:06] Tomo
It was a rare feeling to have.
[20:09] Tomo
Like, say you have a variety of options,
[20:11] Tomo
having to choose the
right one is somewhat...
[20:15] Tomo
Compared to having a full-length story,
it's much harder to make a decision,
[20:23] Tomo
or even figure out what it is
you want to base your decisions on.
[20:32] Chiba
First, I saw the storyboards.
Then, I saw the completed script.
[20:36] Chiba
But even after all that,
I had my head in my hands,
[20:40] Chiba
worrying how I was going to approach it,
[20:42] Chiba
and that was the mood I was in when
I actually showed up to the recording.
[20:48] Chiba
I honestly thought I might
not be able to handle it.
[20:51] Chiba
It's been a long time since I felt like that.
Thinking, "Oh, I don't know if I can do this!"
[20:56] Chiba
But since I was given so much freedom,
and seeing Maa-kun's performance...
[21:04] Chiba
Not to mention, seeing the animation in
motion gives a different kind of feedback.
[21:09] Tomo
Yeah, I suppose it does.
[21:10] Chiba
Compared to the storyboards.
[21:12] Chiba
So being able to see how
everything was moving,
[21:17] Chiba
and how things were likely to
look in the finished product,
[21:23] Chiba
that really helped me get closer to the
finish line with my version of Ekoda-chan,
[21:32] Chiba
so I think my take was one that
was built upon all of those things.
[21:42] Chiba
And it was a good take, right?
[21:45] Tomo
Right. You pass.
[21:46] Chiba
Oh, thank you.
[21:47] Chiba
That made it sound like
I was forcing you to agree!
[21:50] Chiba
But, y'know, getting
that approval in the end...
[21:53] Chiba
I'll sleep like a rock tonight.
[21:56] Kataoka
You were still nervous about it?
[21:58] Chiba
I was! The whole time!
[22:01] Chiba
I was like "Argh! What do I do?!"
[22:03] Kataoka
Really?
[22:03] Chiba
Yeah, seriously!
[22:06] Chiba
It's been a long time since I felt like that.
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:13] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
the director of Episode 5 and
Ekoda-chan's VA will tell all,
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:20] Narrator
and we'll hear some candid
remarks about recording sessions.
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:24] Narrator
What unique challenges do the cast and crew
face when working on a short-form anime?
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:28] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Futon
SIGN Shadow
SIGN Maa-kun
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
E5
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[00:01] Ekoda
Today, I can't wait to eat this youkan bun.
[00:02] ---
Youkan Bun
[00:03] Ekoda
It's raining out, so I seriously
don't want to go shopping.
[00:07] Ekoda
But my lucky bamboo is doing great,
[00:09] Ekoda
and so is my little saury!
[00:11] Ekoda
Aw, don't bite me!
[00:14] Ekoda
Ah, the glorious life of
a pet owner! Just kidding.
[00:17] Ekoda
Urgh, a lizard!
[00:18] Ekoda
No!
SIGN Nooooo!
[00:19] Ekoda
I've developed this pathetic habit of
screaming quietly, even in my own apartment.
[00:22] Ekoda
The thought of it crawling up
inside me is freaking me out!
[00:25] Ekoda
Commence capture.
[00:26] Ekoda
Oh, I know!
[00:28] Ekoda
I can use what that painter
left behind; the one I met
[00:32] Ekoda
when I did that art installation called:
"The Mermaid Who Washed Ashore and Died."
[00:37] Ekoda
Let's give it a whirl!
[00:41] Ekoda
Like this, I can take on a giant monster!
[00:44] Ekoda
To make the "outfit" pink, I added
[00:44] ---
DANCE
[00:45] Ekoda
some white body paint left over
from a dance performance I did.
[00:48] Ekoda
You can imagine how hard it was
to draw the zipper on my back.
[00:53] Ekoda
I mustn't run away...
[00:54] Ekoda
Gotta remember all the times
I trained with my favorite dog.
SIGN Bring it on!
[00:56] Ekoda
Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
SIGN Bring it on!
[00:57] Ekoda
Take... this!
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
[01:00] Ekoda
Capture complete.
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Plop
SIGN Bowl
SIGN Pencil Board
[01:02] Ekoda
And after that epic battle,
I gained a new pet.
[01:07] Roach
Skitter, skitter, skitter...
[01:08] Ekoda
It's a gangsta roach!
[01:10] Roach
G!
[01:11] Ekoda
G's are not pets.
G's are not allies of humanity.
[01:14] Ekoda
G's must be defeated.
G's must be wiped out.
SIGN Clip
SIGN Clip
[01:25] Ekoda
Lucky Bamboo-chan!
[01:27] Ekoda
Our summer... is over.
[01:29] Ekoda
This is all that gangsta roach's fault!
[01:36] Ekoda
Capture complete!
[01:38] Ekoda
There were some kaki no tane crackers in that bag
I wanted to munch on, but so much for that.
[01:41] Ekoda
In you go!
[01:51] Ekoda
In your next life, get reincarnated as lucky
bamboo or as a saury. Just don't be a G.
[02:00] Ekoda
A mosquito invader!
[02:02] Ekoda
Mosquitoes are not pets.
Mosquitoes are not allies of humanity.
[02:04] Ekoda
Mosquitoes must be defeated.
Mosquitoes must be wiped out.
[02:07] Ekoda
I must kill it before it pierces my
skin and starts sucking my blood!
[02:11] Ekoda
Die! Die!
[02:12] Ekoda
Die, die!
[02:24] Ekoda
No!
[02:25] Ekoda
Huh?
[02:26] Ekoda
No!
[02:33] Ekoda
Gotcha!
[02:34] Ekoda
Wait! No! No! It's gonna violate me!
[02:48] Ekoda
And so, this summer of horror ends...
[02:50] Ekoda
And our summer can now begin.
[02:58] Ekoda
On second thought, maybe not.
SIGN Youkan Bun
[03:32] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
SIGN 12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 5: Yonetani Yoshitomo,
SIGN Director
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Shishido Rumi-san.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Shishido Rumi
[04:02] Narrator
We'll cover a broad range of topics,
from behind the scenes stories,
SIGN Episode 5's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Shishido Rumi
SIGN Episode 5's Director
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo
[04:05] Narrator
to how the director and
Shishido-san view of Ekoda-chan.
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
[04:17] Yoyo
It doesn't feel like we've finished yet.
SIGN Your thoughts, now the recording is over
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[04:20] Yoyo
We sure stretched ourselves.
SIGN Episode 5's Ekoda-san
Shishido Rumi
SIGN Episode 5's Director
Yonetani Yoshitomo
[04:22] Rumi
I'd say so, yeah.
[04:23] Yoyo
I got to do a whole lot of stuff
[04:25] Kataoka
Definitely.
[04:26] Yoyo
I wouldn't have been able to do elsewhere.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:29] Yoyo
But on a project like this,
I thought it would be a great approach.
[04:31] Kataoka
And it did.
[04:33] Yoyo
Yeah...
[04:34] Yoyo
I applaud you for hanging in there, too.
[04:35] Rumi
Oh, it was fine.
[04:36] Rumi
I'm generally a pretty mellow person.
[04:40] Rumi
So that level of excitement was... Yeah.
[04:43] Yoyo
It was fast-paced for you, right?
[04:44] Rumi
Yes, it was.
[04:45] Yoyo
The kind of breakneck speed
that leaves you breathless.
[04:49] Rumi
It was only three minutes' worth of material,
[04:52] Rumi
but it felt like I was talking
non-stop for ten minutes.
[04:54] Yoyo
I'm pretty sure you did talk for that long.
[04:57] Rumi
That's how it felt.
[04:59] Rumi
Other than that,
[05:00] Rumi
it struck me as being really arty.
[05:03] Yoyo
Right.
[05:03] Rumi
Like, an art project that could stand alone.
[05:05] Yoyo
That's what I was going for.
[05:07] Rumi
Yeah.
[05:07] Rumi
The cast was literally just me.
[05:09] Yoyo
Right, right.
[05:10] Rumi
So it felt like a lot of responsibility.
[05:11] Yoyo
Yeah, you're the main attraction on this.
[05:13] Rumi
Right.
[05:14] Rumi
But well, it was a lot of fun.
[05:17] Yoyo
We did a little bit...
[05:19] Rumi
You joined in for a bit, too, yeah.
[05:19] ---
Yeah, I joined in.
[05:21] Rumi
I'd say that made it interesting.
[05:24] Rumi
I don't often use a lower
register in my vocal work,
[05:27] Rumi
so it was a unique experience for me.
[05:31] Yoyo
It kinda makes you feel like you're being
[05:33] Yoyo
exposed to a woman's true feelings.
[05:34] Rumi
Oh, yeah.
[05:35] Yoyo
I think doing things like that transports
you into Ekoda-chan's world.
[05:41] Yoyo
That was the concept I was trying
to nail down in this episode.
[05:44] Rumi
I see.
[05:46] Rumi
Let's see...
SIGN Things you struggled with in the studio
[05:47] Rumi
The way I had to be hyper
but maintain a low register
[05:51] Rumi
in order to express what goes on in women's
heads, which some might find intimidating...
[05:58] Rumi
That was the hardest part.
[06:00] Yoyo
You did a great job of giving it depth.
[06:03] Rumi
And lately, I haven't actually
done a lot of voice work,
[06:06] Rumi
so it took a moment or two
to get back into the swing of it.
[06:10] Rumi
That, and the speed. It was just so fast.
[06:13] Rumi
It was hard to keep up
with the animation.
[06:15] Yoyo
Especially as you were on your own.
[06:16] Rumi
You said it.
[06:17] Yoyo
Normally, it'd be more of a conversation,
[06:20] Yoyo
and you'd have a bit of back
and forth, taking turns to talk...
[06:23] Rumi
That's right.
SIGN Have you worked together before?
[06:25] Rumi
On "Ghastly Prince Enma Burning Up,"
[06:28] Rumi
with Yamaguchi Kappei-san playing the lead.
[06:29] Yoyo
Yeah.
[06:30] Rumi
And I played his big sister...
[06:32] Yoyo
Right, Enpi-chan, his sister.
[06:34] Rumi
Enpi-chan was the role.
[06:36] Yoyo
That was one of Nagai Go-sensei's...
[06:37] Rumi
Yes.
[06:38] Rumi
She was nude, except for a cape.
[06:39] Yoyo
Right.
[06:40] Yoyo
I'm amazed they let us air that.
[06:42] Yoyo
She was naked the entire time.
[06:44] Rumi
But it's a piece of anime history now.
[06:46] Yoyo
Right.
[06:46] Rumi
That final episode was just mad.
[06:50] Shishido
It's gotten to the point where I basically
have a pet spider just hanging around.
SIGN Shishido-san's profound respect for life (even bugs)
[06:55] Shishido
That's my level of pacifism.
[06:56] Yoyo
A pet spider?
[06:58] Rumi
Right. And they say they're good luck, too.
[07:00] Rumi
So I never get all, "Die! Blargh!"
myself. Emotionally, I mean.
[07:05] Rumi
I've voiced quite a few bad eggs, yeah.
SIGN Shishido-san plays a lot of antagonists
[07:06] Yoyo
You get a lot of those kinds of roles.
[07:08] Rumi
I like to see them as...
How should I put it?
[07:11] Rumi
You get characters who
just live in the moment, right?
[07:15] Rumi
Ones that don't think about the future.
But my characters are always scheming.
[07:21] Rumi
Yeah.
[07:22] Yoyo
Problem is, she'll play a baddie,
[07:24] Yoyo
and they'll end up sounding cute!
[07:27] Kataoka
That's true.
[07:29] Yoyo
I think her voice just has
a natural cuteness to it.
[07:31] Yoyo
Personally, I find her really charming.
SIGN Why Shishido-san was offered the role of Ekoda-chan
[07:34] Kataoka
Yeah, I agree.
[07:35] Yoyo
And I thought that was the
kind of voice I was aiming for.
[07:39] Yoyo
That was the main reason.
[07:40] Rumi
It was a bit different from
what I imagined it would be.
SIGN Your thoughts on portraying Ekoda-chan?
[07:44] Rumi
Compared to what I got from
the manga when I read it...
[07:49] Rumi
I'm not sure what it was.
[07:50] Rumi
But when I thought about it,
what the director said was right,
[07:53] Rumi
and I'm not sure if I should be saying this,
but we made her a bit crude, right?
[07:57] Yoyo
It's for adults, after all.
[07:58] Rumi
Right. Yeah, that's true.
[08:00] Rumi
And that was something...
[08:02] Rumi
When I was looking at it initially,
[08:06] Rumi
I thought about putting something
of myself into the role.
[08:10] Rumi
But the material didn't call for it.
[08:11] Rumi
I seriously thought, "Wow,
this woman has a lot of energy!"
[08:14] Rumi
Like, "She's super crazy!"
[08:16] Yoyo
She's up and down a lot.
[08:17] Rumi
Right!
[08:18] Rumi
So I had to think, "Okay, so this part's
like this..." as I was voicing my lines. Yeah.
[08:23] Rumi
It was a lot of work.
[08:24] Yoyo
Had to switch gears a lot.
[08:25] Rumi
Yes.
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 5 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[08:31] Kataoka
Out of all the storyboards we got in,
SIGN Episode 5 has the most scene changes out of all 12 episodes
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
[08:33] Kataoka
Yonetani's ended up having
the most scene changes.
[08:36] Yoyo
Yeah, that makes sense.
[08:38] Yoyo
I haven't seen the other directors' episodes,
[08:40] Kataoka
Right.
[08:41] Yoyo
so I wouldn't know.
[08:42] Kataoka
Well, you see...
[08:43] Kataoka
You had 52 cuts in three
minutes of run-time, right?
[08:46] Yoyo
Sounds about right.
[08:47] Kataoka
That's incredible for the run-time.
[08:49] Rumi
Wow...
[08:51] Yoyo
That includes one really long cut, too.
[08:53] Kataoka
Yeah, exactly. I think it was the 44th.
[08:56] Yoyo
I went a little crazy with cuts.
[08:58] Yoyo
I got it into my head that this was the kind
of concept this anime was conceived for.
[09:01] Rumi
Right.
[09:02] Yoyo
So when I put it together, I thought
"I bet this is what they want."
[09:05] Kataoka
You were exactly right, too.
Right on the money.
[09:07] Kataoka
It had a lot of great action in it.
SIGN Differences from the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" source material
[09:09] Yoyo
Well, there's not actually
any action in the manga,
[09:12] Yoyo
so I guess it's unexpected in that sense.
[09:16] Yoyo
But I wanted to incorporate an action scene
[09:19] Yoyo
that fit the tone
of the source material.
[09:21] Yoyo
So I delved into the later chapters of the
manga to find something to work with,
[09:27] Yoyo
and there were strips
where she did body painting.
[09:32] Yoyo
That was my inspiration,
and I built on it from there.
[09:37] Yoyo
I was shocked by the amount
of leeway I was given.
SIGN The kind of finished product you wouldn't usually see on TV
[09:39] Yoyo
I said to myself,
"I'm allowed to zoom in this much?"
[09:41] Rumi
I've never seen anything like it!
[09:44] Kataoka
I don't think anyone has.
[09:44] Rumi
Not on regular TV, anyway!
[09:47] Yoyo
After I submitted the storyboards,
[09:50] Yoyo
I figured some parts were bound to get
rejected, but they okayed everything.
[09:56] Rumi
Wow!
[09:57] Yoyo
I was so glad they understood
what I was going for.
[10:00] Kataoka
And that fight with the
mosquito was so creative.
[10:06] Yoyo
The part with the mosquito
wasn't in the manga originally.
[10:10] Yoyo
The parts with the G roach
and the lizard were...
[10:14] Yoyo
So I took the vibe from
those parts of the story,
[10:17] Yoyo
and cranked up the volume a little, I guess.
[10:19] Yoyo
Just me and my body.
SIGN The audio (sound effects) was handled by the director himself
[10:23] Yoyo
Shishido-san helped out a bit, too.
[10:26] Kataoka
Shishido-san, you chanted
Ekoda-chan 28 times.
SIGN Shishido-san had to chant "Ekoda-chan" 28 times in the episode
[10:31] Kataoka
I don't think anyone...
[10:32] Yoyo
Was it really that many?
[10:33] Kataoka
But it was turned into part
of the background music.
[10:36] Yoyo
Yeah, that's how we ended up using it.
[10:38] Rumi
It made my head swell, to be honest with you.
[10:41] Rumi
Out of all 12 voice actresses,
I got to say "Ekoda-chan" the most!
[10:48] Yoyo
That's some accomplishment.
[10:49] Rumi
I get to hold that over them.
[10:51] Yoyo
For the audio, I wanted something exciting,
[10:53] Yoyo
but I wasn't sure how to get there.
[10:56] Yoyo
And I still wasn't sure after
I'd finished storyboarding.
[11:01] Yoyo
So, while watching the video, I played
around with some different sound effects,
[11:06] Yoyo
and I thought, "This ought to work."
[11:09] Yoyo
And once Shishido-san agreed to it,
I knew I was onto a winner.
[11:14] Kataoka
Yonetani-san, was there a particular reason
[11:17] Kataoka
or idea you had in mind
when you agreed to do this?
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN The reason he accepted the directing job
[11:21] Yoyo
It might take three days
to explain that one...
[11:23] Kataoka
We don't have that long,
but if you wanna get into it...
[11:26] Rumi
They can edit it.
[11:27] Yoyo
Well, nowadays with animation,
it takes a bunch of people to make it,
[11:32] Yoyo
with everyone working
on their own little bit,
[11:35] Yoyo
so you have all these people
working on one specific thing...
[11:42] Yoyo
And that, when added
altogether, results in a project.
[11:47] Yoyo
It's now at the point where you have 30 or 40
key artists, and 5 or 6 animation directors,
[11:54] Yoyo
so it's sort of hard to tell what you're
contributing on any given project.
[11:59] Yoyo
I liked the idea of breaking away from
that and doing something different.
[12:03] Yoyo
I mean, I'm kind of old school,
[12:06] Yoyo
and I was doing solo animation
projects when I was a student.
[12:11] Yoyo
And I was thinking how we really need
[12:13] Yoyo
to have something with
that kind of appeal still,
[12:15] Yoyo
so when I got the call, I figured I'd get
the chance to do something like that.
[12:23] Yoyo
I was very glad to take the job.
[12:28] Yoyo
I think, on the most basic level,
I wanted people to just enjoy watching it,
SIGN As the director, what did you want
to get across in the three-minute run-time?
[12:33] Yoyo
and I also didn't want to wreck
the world of Ekoda-chan.
[12:36] Yoyo
So I wanted to move things around, so that
it would keep that unique atmosphere,
[12:41] Yoyo
and still be entertaining,
even with the short run-time.
[12:47] Yoyo
Beyond that, I wanted to create something
that would represent a kind of approach
[12:52] Yoyo
that feels like it's on the verge
of dying out in the industry.
[12:58] Yoyo
That was part of my conception.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 5's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Shishido Rumi
SIGN Episode 5's Director
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
Director Yonetani talked about his passion
for the anime industry in the first half,
[13:12] Narrator
and in the second half, we get to hear his
and Shishido-san's take on Ekoda-chan.
[13:16] Narrator
Not only that, but we'll hear about when
they were 24, the same age as Ekoda-chan.
SIGN The Director X The Voice Actress & Ekoda-chan
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
[13:27] Yoyo
Empathize, huh?
SIGN Is there anything in Ekoda-chan's life you empathize with,
or anything you feel you have in common with her?
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
[13:28] Yoyo
You looked like you were
about to say: "Hell, no!"
[13:31] Yoyo
Sure, there are bits of her life
you wouldn't want for yourself...
[13:33] Yoyo
But I think her way of life
in general is quite appealing.
[13:38] Rumi
Well, I was raised in a temple...
[13:40] Yoyo
Oh, that's right.
[13:41] Rumi
And I think that comes out in my music.
[13:44] Rumi
Like, I have a song called
"The Night When All of Humanity is Dear."
[13:47] Rumi
So I have this tendency to like people
regardless of gender and so on.
[13:52] Rumi
That goes for people and animals.
I absolutely adore all living things.
[13:57] Yoyo
That's philosophical.
[13:59] Rumi
Oh, no, I was just thinking how
different that makes me from her.
[14:02] Rumi
She seems to have really strong
desires, and this really strong ego,
[14:05] Rumi
and I guess I just don't...
have those strong desires.
[14:11] Yoyo
So that's where you had to approach it from?
[14:14] Rumi
Well, considering the material,
I just hoped I had it in me
[14:17] Rumi
to turn in the kind of
performance you wanted.
[14:19] Rumi
Like, "Come on!"
[14:22] Rumi
So instead of trying to
tap into my own desires,
[14:25] Rumi
I concentrated more on kinda
showing how she lives her life.
[14:31] Yoyo
As a director, that's a bit like having
an unpolished stone with this sort of...
[14:38] Yoyo
unique shine to it, you know?
[14:40] Yoyo
And you want to try and see if you
can get it to shine in other ways, too.
[14:45] Yoyo
To see if you can tap into the potential
you see for a wider variety of approaches.
[14:49] Rumi
That's good to hear.
[14:50] Rumi
Something about hearing it in terms
of "potential" really makes me happy.
[14:53] Yoyo
Sometimes, you want to go the opposite
way to someone's natural inclinations.
[14:57] Rumi
Ah, yes, I get it.
[14:58] Yoyo
It can create a good contrast.
[14:59] Rumi
Right.
[15:00] Yoyo
That was the kind of direction
I wanted to give you.
[15:03] Rumi
That makes sense.
[15:04] Rumi
I think you did end up getting
an all-new Shishido Rumi in this case.
SIGN What does Ekoda-chan mean to you?
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
[15:10] Yoyo
I like how Ekoda-chan's so proud,
[15:12] Yoyo
and I like how everything about
her tells us something about life.
[15:18] Yoyo
In the manga, there are a few things
she seriously won't budge on.
[15:23] Yoyo
And I like how you can get a grasp
on her... values, I guess you'd call it?
[15:27] Yoyo
I wanted to make sure I kept
Ekoda-chan true to her values.
[15:31] Yoyo
I really like how versatile she is.
[15:33] Yoyo
She can be a total goofball at times,
but really serious at other times,
[15:37] Yoyo
and there are certain times
where she gives it her all.
[15:40] Yoyo
I wasn't sure I'd be able to get
all that across in three minutes,
[15:44] Yoyo
and thought I'd have to leave
aspects of her character out...
[15:46] Yoyo
But I think, in the end, no matter
which angle you look at it from,
[15:52] Yoyo
I wanted to make sure I used those
three minutes to touch on every aspect,
[15:57] Yoyo
so the viewers would see
those elements of her character.
SIGN How you approach short-form animation
[16:01] Yoyo
I've done ads and things like that before,
[16:03] Kataoka
Right.
[16:05] Yoyo
and I guess it's about waging
war on a much smaller scale.
[16:07] Yoyo
Like, if this was baseball, you'd treat
the regular season very differently
[16:12] Yoyo
to how you'd do things if you
made it to the Japan Series.
[16:15] Yoyo
You need to change your
approach to victory and defeat.
[16:17] Yoyo
It becomes a question of, "How much
can you condense into three minutes?"
[16:21] Yoyo
I also wanted to try and do things
I didn't think the other directors would do,
[16:27] Yoyo
but that I had a chance of pulling off.
[16:31] Yoyo
And then, cram it all into three minutes,
while keeping things balanced.
[16:35] Kataoka
In the studio earlier, Shishido-san,
[16:38] Kataoka
you came out with a story when
you heard the words: "24 years old."
[16:42] Rumi
I went on a kind of rant, yeah.
[16:45] Kataoka
So, when you were 24, what were you like?
[16:49] Kataoka
Compared to what we see in the show...
[16:53] Rumi
Well, let me think about that...
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN When you were 24, the same age as Ekoda-chan...
[16:55] Rumi
I think, when I was young, I dunno...
[16:59] Rumi
I mean, I have a great life now,
[17:01] Rumi
but back then, I was lonely, I think.
And it was a strong feeling of loneliness.
[17:07] Rumi
Ekoda-chan has a lot of casual relationships
to cover up those feelings, by comparison.
[17:12] Rumi
But since I was doing a lot
of voice acting back then...
[17:20] Rumi
I think, looking back on it now,
it was a precious time.
[17:24] Yoyo
Those times led to these, right?
[17:26] Rumi
Yeah.
[17:28] Yoyo
When I was 24, I was already in animation.
[17:33] Yoyo
And I've been a director
for a surprisingly long time.
[17:35] Yoyo
I mean, not only has it been a long time,
but I started directing at 26.
[17:41] Yoyo
And it feels like I went from
then to now in the blink of an eye.
[17:46] Yoyo
And when I was 24, I knew no fear.
[17:52] Yoyo
That's just how guys are.
[17:53] Kataoka
I think so, too.
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Director Yonetani
Yoshitomo's depiction
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[18:00] Yoyo
Well, I think Ekoda-chan's
real appeal isn't superficial.
SIGN What went through your head when you were directing?
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Yonetani Yoshitomo x Shishido Rumi
[18:05] Yoyo
She's multifaceted, and her charm comes
from all of those aspects of her character.
[18:10] Yoyo
So I thought showing her highs and lows
[18:13] Yoyo
would give the viewers a taste of that...
versatility, and of her complex character.
[18:19] Yoyo
Those moments highlight
the depths of her character.
[18:22] Rumi
I think you're right. Like, in certain
ways, she's almost maternal...
[18:28] Rumi
And she has these cute moments, too.
[18:31] Rumi
There are a lot of
different sides to Ekoda-chan.
[18:35] Yoyo
I mean, it's possible to do, but...
SIGN Do you use the kind of layered sound effects you did in this episode a lot?
[18:38] Yoyo
Generally speaking,
I'm usually not allowed to.
[18:42] Yoyo
In the olden days, I could,
but not so much nowadays.
[18:47] Yoyo
When you were working on older comedies,
[18:50] Yoyo
you had a lot of freedom to mess around.
[18:54] Kataoka
True.
[18:55] Yoyo
Like sticking in random
live-action sequences.
[18:57] Yoyo
Though, a certain Pop You-Know-What
series has been bringing some of that back.
[19:02] Yoyo
But it was more common back in the day.
[19:05] Yoyo
I guess you could say things like
that come and go with the times,
[19:09] Yoyo
in terms of acceptance.
[19:11] Yoyo
And I thought I would be able
to get away with it on this project.
[19:16] Yoyo
The note it opens and closes on:
SIGN Was there any particular part of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" Episode 5 you were concerned about?
[19:20] Yoyo
The youkan bun.
[19:22] Yoyo
The line was actually only voiced once, but...
[19:28] Yoyo
With that line, I wanted to make sure
you could hear Ekoda-chan's anticipation.
[19:33] Yoyo
She was really looking forward to it,
and then, she had to give up on it.
[19:37] Yoyo
That was the direction
I gave to get that idea across.
[19:42] Yoyo
It was a good way to
bookend the episode, I think.
[19:45] Yoyo
So I wanted to emphasize it.
[19:49] Yoyo
I always kept the audience in mind,
SIGN Things you kept in mind while working on the "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[19:52] Yoyo
because I imagine there will
be fans of the manga watching,
[19:57] Yoyo
so I wanted to make something
that wouldn't disappoint them.
[20:02] Yoyo
But beyond that, I also wanted something...
[20:04] Yoyo
In the world of anime right now,
there are so many shows getting pumped out.
[20:08] Yoyo
And I imagine it's hard to
choose what to watch,
[20:14] Yoyo
so I wanted to... I don't
want to say, "Make it weird,"
[20:20] Yoyo
but I wanted it to stand out
like a cactus in a field of flowers.
[20:24] Yoyo
That's the kind of appeal I wanted.
[20:27] Yoyo
Like, there'd be a beautiful
flower blooming on that cactus.
[20:31] Yoyo
Something that's beautiful because
it's growing out of a prickly cactus.
[20:34] Yoyo
I thought that if I went
for something like that,
[20:36] Yoyo
among all the various anime projects, it'd
stand out from the crowd and look appealing,
[20:44] Yoyo
so that was what I was
thinking as I worked on it.
[20:46] Rumi
I think Kataoka-san explained it
perfectly to me earlier today.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's charm
[20:51] Rumi
Like, she doesn't let herself
get caught up in things,
[20:56] Rumi
but instead, exercises self-control,
[20:59] Rumi
and roots out her place in all of it.
[21:02] Rumi
And that's how she lives her life.
[21:04] Rumi
I think that's really what
makes her stand out.
[21:09] Rumi
I mean, everyone around her
might just go with the flow,
[21:12] Rumi
but I personally would prefer doing what
she does. So I admire that in her.
[21:18] Yoyo
I honestly think Ekoda-chan might be
a self-insert for the author of the manga.
[21:23] Yoyo
I've thought that from the start.
[21:25] Yoyo
I know she makes claims to the contrary, but...
[21:29] Yoyo
I just get this feeling that...
she's sharing herself with the world.
[21:34] Yoyo
And that's really appealing.
Because it's a hard thing to do.
[21:39] Yoyo
But by doing it, you can tell that
the goal is for you to enjoy the story,
[21:46] Yoyo
and I think that's part of why
Ekoda-chan feels so lively in the manga.
[21:52] Yoyo
There's a certain charm to that.
[21:54] Kataoka
Right.
[21:54] Yoyo
I really love that aspect of it.
[21:58] Yoyo
There are some depressing parts in
the manga that are easy to relate to, too,
[22:03] Yoyo
and those also stick in my memory.
[22:06] Yoyo
I hope we inspire people
to check out the manga.
[22:10] Narrator
And that brings today's
discussion to a close.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director and
Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
we'll hear how "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
Episode 6 was meticulously put together.
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:21] Narrator
The director and Ekoda-chan
talk candidly about their troubles.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:25] Narrator
What kind of behind the scenes story
can you only get with Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:28] Narrator
Find out next time!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Lower body
SIGN Upper body
SIGN Face
SIGN Shadows
E6
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[00:03] Ekoda
Ekoda Station, on the Seibu Ikebukuro line.
[00:07] Ekoda
Not Jiyugaoka on the Tokyu line.
Nor Shiki on the Tobu line.
[00:12] Ekoda
And certainly not the bustling JR Kichijoji.
[00:15] Ekoda
A train station for a neighborhood
on the margins: Ekoda.
SIGN Rinshi
SIGN Ekoda-chan
[00:30] Ekoda
The thing about modern women is,
no matter which side of them you see...
[00:38] Ekoda
They have white, black...
[00:45] Ekoda
Blue, red...
[00:48] Ekoda
Beige...
[00:50] Ekoda
And of course, pink,
mixed into their palette...
[00:53] Ekoda
When they're 24.
[01:04] Ekoda
At home, I'm typically naked.
[01:05] Ekoda
Oof...
[01:07] Ekoda
It's convenient, and economical.
[01:10] Ekoda
And liberating.
[01:11] Ekoda
I can open and close what I want,
when I want, as the mood takes me.
[01:26] Ekoda
Though, that doesn't mean...
SIGN Junko
[01:33] Ekoda
...I don't get a little
embarrassed by how erotic it is.
[01:43] Ekoda
Hot!
[01:48] Ekoda
I've learned a trick or two in my time,
[01:51] Ekoda
but when it comes to how a sweet young
woman unwinds after an exhausting day...
[01:57] Ekoda
Shockingly...
[01:59] Ekoda
The same way as your average
middle-aged dude, pretty much.
SIGN Maa-kun
[02:18] Ekoda
Sure. Where are you?
[02:27] Ekoda
I'll be right there.
[02:35] Ekoda
But I'm not like your
average middle-aged dude.
[02:38] Ekoda
I have dreams, hopes,
and battles to wade through.
[02:42] Ekoda
24 years old, and in the prime of my life.
[02:45] Ekoda
I'm Ekoda-chan... and even
flowers blush when I'm around.
[03:32] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
SIGN 12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 6: Takahashi Ryosuke,
SIGN Director
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Mimori Suzuko.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Mimori Suzuko
[04:02] Narrator
This is the first time the two
of them have worked together!
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke
SIGN Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Mimori Suzuko
SIGN Episode 6's Director
[04:07] Narrator
Get ready to hear their fresh takes!
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
[04:17] Taka
This is the first time I've worked
on something this short.
SIGN Thoughts after today's recording
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
Mimori Suzuko
SIGN Episode 6's Director
Takahashi Ryosuke
[04:20] Taka
Most of the time, in my day,
no matter how short something was,
[04:25] Taka
it'd still have a 26-episode
run at the very least.
[04:28] Taka
But after meeting Mimori-san,
[04:30] Taka
I got this perfect image
[04:30] Mimori
Right.
[04:31] Taka
of what I wanted my take on Ekoda-chan to be.
[04:34] Mimori
Right.
[04:35] Taka
To put it another way, normally,
I have to ask a production committee
[04:39] Taka
if I can do things
a certain way, but this time...
[04:42] Taka
they were the ones who wanted
me to do things a certain way.
[04:49] Taka
And that felt good.
[04:51] Mimori
Thank you.
[04:53] Mimori
Well, there was a lot of monologuing...
[04:57] Mimori
This takes place after
Ekoda-chan gets home,
[05:00] Mimori
and I figured it had to give the impression
of someone who's in their own little world.
[05:06] Mimori
The idea is that, it just sorta flows,
in a stream of consciousness kinda way.
[05:11] Mimori
But even then, there are parts
like when the oil splashes her...
[05:15] Mimori
I was really hoping I could
pull off a natural-sounding take
[05:20] Mimori
to complement the sort of "day
in the life" scene that was depicted.
[05:26] Taka
Well, to me, Ekoda-chan is kind of
a symbol of the sort of common...
SIGN What kind of character did you want to portray
with your version of Ekoda-chan?
[05:34] Taka
I guess you'd call them "desires"?
Or maybe "laziness" is more apt?
[05:38] Taka
But, underneath it all, she's
got that spark of earnestness.
[05:43] Taka
It's actually pretty hard
to get through life
[05:46] Taka
without that little bit
of conviction, you know?
[05:49] Taka
It was all of those things combined that
I felt when I was reading the original manga,
[05:57] Taka
and I really took a shine to that little bit
of earnestness she has deep down inside her.
[06:06] Mimori
Well, I came to the original
via the collected volumes,
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[06:10] Mimori
and I remember thinking,
"This character seems really plausible."
[06:15] Mimori
I think, a lot of the time,
men tend to imagine that women...
[06:20] Mimori
When they try to picture what their
personal lives are like at home,
[06:24] Mimori
I think a lot of men have this vision of us
all having really glamorous home lives,
[06:31] Mimori
but I think, in reality, and
especially considering she's 24,
[06:38] Mimori
the picture it paints
of bachelorette life
[06:41] Mimori
makes me go, "Yeah, that sounds about right."
[06:46] Mimori
And that made it really easy
for me to relate to, personally.
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 6 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
[06:55] Mimori
After reading the manga, and then,
reading the script and seeing the footage,
SIGN Was the image you had of her from reading the manga
the same as the one you had when you did the recording?
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
[07:02] Mimori
and seeing what they had in common...
[07:05] Mimori
The impression I got fairly early on
when I was reading through,
[07:10] Mimori
was that she just felt like
someone who could exist in real life.
[07:15] Mimori
In particular, when she's
taking off all her clothes,
[07:18] Mimori
then just lays back and
starts opening and closing her legs...
[07:22] Mimori
I thought that was really funny,
and I actually laughed out loud.
[07:26] Kataoka
I thought that part was amazing
when I saw the storyboards.
[07:29] Mimori
I did, too.
[07:30] Kataoka
How did you...
[07:31] Taka
Well, the thing about the
part where she's stripping off...
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN The original take on
"Ekoda-chan takes off her underwear"
[07:36] Taka
When I produced the
first draft of that storyboard...
[07:39] Taka
There's this move I do
whenever I get in the bath...
[07:42] Taka
See, I wear boxers.
[07:44] Taka
I let them drop, then kick them up,
and toss them in the laundry.
[07:48] Taka
And I thought, since that's a bigger motion,
[07:49] Mimori
Wow.
[07:50] Taka
it'd be more of a visual treat for the viewer.
[07:55] Taka
But one of the women doing the animation
[07:57] Mimori
Yeah?
[07:58] Taka
turned around and said:
"No one would ever do this."
[08:00] Taka
"No matter how unladylike she is,
no woman would do this."
[08:02] Taka
"This is how women take their clothes off."
[08:05] Taka
And I was like, "Okay, I just thought
it'd be more interesting my way."
[08:09] Taka
But you know,
[08:11] Taka
being able to show the
way women act in private,
[08:15] Taka
which is something I'm not familiar with?
[08:18] Taka
That's what we were able to do with this.
[08:20] Taka
So, as a creator, even if I thought
the other way was visually appealing,
[08:27] Taka
if I hear the words, "No woman would
ever do this," I have to go, "Oh, right."
[08:31] Taka
And whenever you have
a collaborative process,
[08:34] Taka
that kind of back-and-forth is a lot of fun.
[08:35] Mimori
You're totally right.
[08:38] Mimori
I got the impression that she was really cute.
[08:41] Mimori
Like, how she used those shopping
bags as an impromptu apron.
[08:45] Mimori
That was really clever.
[08:47] Mimori
I was impressed with Ekoda-chan.
[08:49] Taka
I mean, she's always naked.
SIGN The combination of nudity and paper bags as an apron
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
[08:53] Taka
But I wanted to accentuate that fact.
[08:55] Taka
And I wanted to use something
that was a harsh contrast to nakedness.
[09:00] Taka
So that's why we went with that.
[09:02] Taka
It was the first idea
[09:04] Taka
that popped into my head, to be honest.
[09:05] Mimori
Wow.
[09:07] Taka
I was kinda worried about
what I'd do if it got rejected,
[09:10] Taka
but since it wasn't...
[09:12] Mimori
It was a really creative idea.
[09:15] Kataoka
It's exactly the kind of thing she'd do.
[09:16] Mimori
Yeah, isn't it just?
[09:18] Mimori
I mean, being naked like that...
[09:20] Mimori
There are a lot of people who do actually
like to walk around in the nude at home.
[09:25] Mimori
So that would probably work for them.
[09:25] Taka
Well, I figured she'd have come up with some way
[09:28] Taka
to deal with oil splashing.
[09:29] Taka
And if she just stuck on an apron,
[09:30] Mimori
It's practical.
[09:32] Taka
that'd be too ordinary.
[09:34] Taka
Plus, wearing just an apron
[09:36] Mimori
Yeah, you've got a point.
[09:36] Taka
is a little too sexy, right?
[09:38] Taka
And I didn't want it to turn into
[09:40] Taka
some kind of random erotic scene.
[09:42] Mimori
Right.
[09:43] Taka
So we went a different way.
[09:44] Mimori
And that led to the paper bag.
[09:45] Taka
Right.
[09:47] Mimori
At first, as I was reading, I thought about
giving the monologue more of a pop feel,
SIGN Issues during the voice-over
[09:54] Mimori
but when I heard they were
putting enka music underneath...
[09:56] Mimori
That gave me the impression that Ekoda-chan
was totally absorbed in the moment.
[10:00] Mimori
Like she was treating it as a documentary
of her own life, produced by her.
[10:04] Mimori
So I tried to lean towards making it
more interesting in that way, instead.
[10:10] Taka
Well, with Nakajima Miyuki-san's music...
SIGN The melody of the ending song
[10:11] Taka
Right.
[10:12] Taka
It's not really your typical enka song,
[10:15] Taka
but it's sorta... more rousing, you know?
[10:17] Mimori
Right, right.
[10:18] Taka
That's what she's known for.
[10:19] Taka
That's the feeling I get from it.
[10:22] Kataoka
That's an easy-to-understand explanation.
[10:22] Taka
Like... it's not profound or anything,
[10:26] Taka
but it still cheers you up, right?
[10:28] Mimori
Right, right.
[10:28] Mimori
And, well...
[10:29] Mimori
From there, we just had to pick
the right spot for it to start playing.
[10:34] Mimori
That was the plan I had in my head.
[10:37] Taka
The thing is, the contents of these volumes...
SIGN The plot for Episode 6 of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[10:40] Taka
Three minutes is nowhere near enough
[10:44] Taka
to even cover what's in one volume.
[10:44] Kataoka
Right.
[10:46] Mimori
Not in three minutes.
[10:47] Mimori
If I wanted to tell a whole
story adapted from the strips,
[10:53] Mimori
three minutes just wouldn't be long enough.
[10:58] Mimori
And I thought about trying to include
material lifted directly from the manga,
[11:06] Mimori
but ultimately decided I was better off
not using any particular moments from it.
[11:12] Mimori
Other than the fact she's always naked,
[11:15] Mimori
and just... I wanted to take her nudity,
[11:20] Mimori
and depict the way she moves
as naturally as possible.
[11:23] Mimori
I wanted to show that side of her,
without making it too jokey.
[11:27] Mimori
And if I'm honest about why I did that...
[11:29] Mimori
The other 12... well, 11 directors?
[11:33] Mimori
They're all really good.
Every single one of them.
[11:37] Mimori
They're all... masters of comedy.
[11:41] Mimori
On top of being good at
making anime shows in general.
[11:45] Mimori
I can't win on any front!
[11:47] Mimori
I mean, on a technical level, my own projects...
[11:51] Mimori
They're never that fancy, right?
[11:54] Mimori
So when I was considering
how to approach this,
[11:59] Mimori
I figured that nobody else would
do this with the character,
[12:03] Mimori
and... well...
[12:07] Mimori
I wanted to take a segment of
Ekoda-chan's life, and just zoom in on it.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 6's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Mimori Suzuko
SIGN Episode 6's Director
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[12:19] Narrator
From shopping bag aprons to
how to take off your underwear,
[12:22] Narrator
Director Takahashi paid close attention
to the minute details of daily life.
[12:27] Narrator
In the second half, he'll give
an even more in-depth insight
[12:30] Narrator
into the construction of Episode 6.
SIGN Director Takahashi
Ryosuke's Plan
And Direction
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
[12:40] Taka
Well, after actually hearing it,
SIGN Was Mimori-san's performance
different from what you imagined it would be?
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
[12:41] Taka
the more we erred toward realism,
the more it actually felt like it was real.
[12:46] Taka
But... since this is three minutes long,
[12:50] Taka
if it was too realistic,
it'd be kind of a drag to watch.
[12:54] Taka
So I had a chat with the audio director,
[13:02] Taka
and decided it'd be better with
a bit more bounce and modulation.
[13:08] Taka
That was what I asked for.
[13:10] Taka
And she not only delivered that,
[13:12] Taka
but went above and beyond,
without losing sight of the goal,
[13:16] Taka
so it was great.
[13:17] Mimori
That's good to hear.
[13:19] Kataoka
So, in that sense, there was a lot
of empathy and accommodation.
[13:22] Taka
Right.
[13:22] Taka
I think it's great she didn't end up
going over the top with it.
[13:25] Mimori
Thank you.
[13:27] Kataoka
Something about a woman
trying to make it on her own...
SIGN In specific terms,
what kind of directions did you give Mimori-san?
[13:31] Kataoka
When it comes to old guys...
I wouldn't say they like them in particular,
[13:36] Kataoka
but they sort of view them with
fewer prejudices. That's what I think.
[13:41] Kataoka
So when they come home beat after work...
[13:46] Kataoka
It's usually after work, anyway.
[13:48] Kataoka
At times like that, you kinda
get lost in your own world,
[13:52] Kataoka
and there's that moment where you
think: "What am I gonna do to relax?"
[13:56] Kataoka
So out comes the beer, or the malt liquor.
[13:58] Kataoka
And I bet they come to the realization that,
[14:00] Kataoka
"All those old dudes out there, busting
their humps, are doing the same, huh?"
[14:04] Kataoka
And even though they say, mockingly,
"They're doing the same damned thing!"
[14:10] Kataoka
somewhere underneath that derisive tone,
[14:14] Kataoka
there's a sort of... affection.
A sense of camaraderie. Right?
[14:18] Kataoka
Shared by people who go out into the world,
work at their job, then come home again.
[14:22] Kataoka
And that's their daily routine.
[14:24] Kataoka
That was something I asked the audio
director to help me get across.
[14:32] Kataoka
It keeps coming back
to this perception I have
[14:34] Kataoka
of there being no real difference
between Ekoda-chan and myself.
[14:39] Kataoka
And I wanted that to come across,
both in the visuals and the audio.
[14:46] Kataoka
And if we manage that, it'll be great.
[14:51] Mimori
At the beginning of the episode, the weird
things she says about her neighborhood...
SIGN Things the sound director helped her figure out
[14:57] Mimori
And what she says isn't really
meant in a negative way,
[15:01] Mimori
so I was asked to make the lines
sound somewhat affectionate.
[15:06] Mimori
And that made me realize,
Ekoda-chan is kind of...
[15:10] Mimori
She's not exactly cynical, but she's very...
down-to-earth, especially in how
[15:17] Mimori
she analyzes her current situation
and tries to find a path to happiness.
[15:23] Mimori
And I thought that made Ekoda-chan
really appealing and likable as a person.
[15:31] Mimori
Instead of just being, like, "I'm not fond of
this neighborhood, but I have to live here."
[15:35] Mimori
Ekoda-chan kinda views Ekoda
as this weird halfway house.
[15:39] Mimori
Where she's not near the center of the city,
but she's not out in the country, either.
[15:43] Mimori
But somehow, she's comfortable there.
[15:46] Mimori
That sorta gets across her true feelings.
[15:53] Mimori
And I felt that was an important
element of the episode.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's charm
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Your favorite scene in Episode 6
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Takahashi Ryosuke x Mimori Suzuko
[16:06] Mimori
It's one of the bits near the end,
[16:09] Mimori
where she's been getting calls
from all kinds of people,
[16:13] Mimori
but at the very end, she decides to
pick up when she sees this one guy calling.
[16:17] Mimori
"If it's him, I'll answer."
There's something about that.
[16:21] Mimori
It's the first time all episode
that she speaks to another person.
[16:25] Mimori
And right after that, she's like, "Well,
maybe I'm not like an old man, after all."
[16:30] Mimori
The way she doesn't exactly take
back everything she just said,
[16:38] Mimori
but she reminds us that she's only 24.
[16:42] Mimori
And she's still sorta glamorous,
even if she does have her own troubles.
[16:48] Mimori
But something about the way her
mood does a total 180 like that...
[16:54] Mimori
The way she just changes her mind,
and sets her sights on going out...
[16:59] Mimori
That's another thing about
her that I really loved.
SIGN Similarities with Ekoda-chan
[17:03] Taka
I think Ekoda-chan goes through a lot,
[17:08] Taka
and in the manga,
[17:11] Taka
there's this guy who
[17:12] Taka
doesn't exactly treat her right.
[17:14] Kataoka
Maa-kun.
[17:14] Mimori
Right, right.
[17:16] Taka
Even though Ekoda-chan only has eyes for him,
[17:19] Taka
and all the while, she's thinking: "This little..."
[17:22] Taka
She still can't bring herself to hate him.
[17:27] Taka
When you look at that part
in isolation, it's kind of sad.
[17:33] Taka
But Ekoda-chan... As much as
he irritates her, she still cares for him.
[17:40] Taka
And it's more than just that
relationship... I think Ekoda-chan...
[17:45] Taka
She doesn't like to...
give up on things, you know?
[17:50] Taka
She, well... She doesn't give up on life.
[17:53] Taka
Through all her trials and
tribulations, she doesn't give up.
[17:56] Taka
She has all these bad experiences, yet on
the whole, she still likes the world as it is.
[18:02] Taka
I think that's something
we both have in common.
[18:08] Taka
I think the world's a good place...
Or at the very least, I enjoy everyday life.
[18:14] Mimori
I feel the same way.
It's sort of like what you said...
[18:18] Mimori
Ekoda-chan seems to love her day-to-day,
or at least, she's optimistic about it,
[18:24] Mimori
and no matter what kind of unfair
treatment she's subjected to,
[18:27] Mimori
or how much she gets irritated at
all the dolled-up girls around her,
[18:33] Mimori
she just knows, deep down,
that she can't be like them.
[18:38] Mimori
And something about that...
[18:42] Mimori
It's the way she doesn't
ever let it get her down,
[18:48] Mimori
and how she just tries to enjoy life...
[18:52] Mimori
She's doing what she can to get as much
enjoyment out of life as possible,
[18:56] Mimori
and that's something I think
we have in common.
[19:00] Mimori
When something really gets me down,
[19:06] Mimori
instead of going, "Aw, no..."
I prefer to go, "Oh, well!"
[19:11] Mimori
and try to just shift
gears on my mental state.
[19:14] Mimori
That's something I think we might both do.
SIGN Boil down Ekoda-chan's appeal into a few words
[19:19] Taka
You could call it... run-of-the-mill optimism.
[19:23] Taka
I mean, everybody has their own dreams,
[19:26] Taka
but whether or not you achieve them
is a personal thing, and hard to judge.
[19:31] Taka
But when you have something
you're shooting for,
[19:34] Taka
it's easier to look forward to it.
[19:36] Taka
That's how I've lived up to now, personally,
and it's still a big part of my life.
[19:43] Taka
Though, there's a big difference
between 24 and 76,
[19:46] Taka
but I don't think age is really a factor.
[19:50] Mimori
She just seems like a girl with charm to me.
[19:53] Mimori
A charming girl. That's Ekoda-chan.
[19:54] Taka
Right.
[19:56] Mimori
I mean, as she goes through life,
Ekoda-chan does have moments
[19:59] Mimori
where she feels bitter
or gets jealous of others.
[20:02] Mimori
It's not all positive, by any means, but...
[20:07] Mimori
You can't hold it against her,
[20:09] Mimori
and I think that's because something about
Ekoda-chan... won't let you judge her that way.
[20:17] Mimori
And you'd think you'd find
people like that everywhere,
[20:19] Mimori
but they're actually pretty rare.
[20:22] Mimori
It sorta makes me want
to be that kind of woman.
[20:28] Taka
Well, making animation like this...
SIGN Thoughts on today
[20:35] Taka
I think I'll be doing it for a while yet.
[20:40] Taka
And before I came in today...
for the recording, I mean...
[20:47] Taka
Thinking about how the project was
gonna come together in the end...
[20:52] Taka
Having a hand in every aspect of it...
That was something I really enjoyed.
[20:55] Taka
Working in animation, where you
have the vocals, along with the music,
[21:00] Taka
and the sound effects,
and the way it all comes together...
[21:04] Taka
It made me remember what it was
I enjoyed when I first got into this business.
[21:08] Taka
That's what I took away from it.
[21:10] Mimori
At first, since I was by myself,
I was kind of worried.
[21:14] Mimori
I mean, coming in and just...
being the only one in the booth
[21:19] Mimori
was a new experience for me,
so I was pretty nervous,
[21:24] Mimori
but once I'd met the director,
and seen how kind he was...
[21:29] Mimori
That really helped me to relax,
and being able to, um...
[21:33] Mimori
talk about things like this,
in this round-table discussion,
[21:38] Mimori
and hearing about how
he used to work in an office,
[21:43] Mimori
it made me think about how
I ended up as a voice actress.
[21:49] Mimori
I could sort of see parallels there.
[21:52] Mimori
I started out in theater, and really
had no idea about anime at first,
[21:58] Mimori
but I started getting into it
when I became a voice actress.
[22:00] Mimori
And meeting someone else like
that by chance was really... yeah.
[22:05] Mimori
It was really nice to make a new connection.
[22:08] Taka
Yeah.
[22:10] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
we'll hear some personal behind-the-scenes
stories about anime production
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:20] Narrator
from Episode 7's director
and Ekoda-chan's VA,
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:23] Narrator
along with finding out what exactly makes
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" so entertaining.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:27] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
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[23:25] ---
Ear
[24:08] ---
Hair
[24:59] ---
Coloring
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[00:01] Ekoda
Hello, one and all. Ekoda-chan here.
[00:05] Ekoda
If you're wondering how I ended up
looking like I'm on some game show...
[00:09] Ekoda
Well, we'll get to that.
[00:11] Ekoda
Do you believe in the red thread of fate?
SIGN Red
Strings
SIGN Use fashion to change
your fate!
[00:30] Ekoda
Let me see! Let me see!
[00:31] Ekoda
Where the hell is it?!
[00:35] Clerk
Here you go!
[00:37] Ekoda
Um... This one!
[00:44] Ekoda
I'm gonna settle that
old vendetta... with interest!
[00:56] Ekoda
Olé!
[01:01] Ekoda
Hello, sorry for the wait—
[01:04] Ekoda
S-Stop—
[01:08] Bird
D'ya think you could try expressing
joy with your entire body?
[01:13] Ekoda
I won't be beaten!
[01:18] Ekoda
Everywhere I look...
[01:23] Ekoda
...there are tangles of string!
[01:33] Ekoda
Okay.
[01:38] Ekoda
Excuse me!
[01:47] Ekoda
Excuse me—
[02:01] Ekoda
Keep away! Keep away!
[02:12] Sis
'Sup.
[02:14] Ekoda
Sis! Mom!
[02:21] Ekoda
Wait, no! Hold off a sec!
[02:24] Ekoda
Stop! Stop!
[02:25] Ekoda
Stop!
[02:41] Sis
Here you go.
[02:42] Sis
I got plenty, so you can have one.
[02:45] Ekoda
And on that day, Ekoda-chan realized
her familial bonds felt more real to her
[02:49] Ekoda
than any kind of fated
connection she might have.
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Rinshi!!
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SIGN Ekoda-chan
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the
director of Episode 7: Misawa Shin,
SIGN Director
SIGN Misawa Shin
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Doi Mika-san.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Doi Mika
[04:01] Narrator
We'll hear how attention to detail
can drag out the production process,
SIGN Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Doi Mika
SIGN Episode 7's Director
SIGN Misawa Shin
[04:05] Narrator
and about the core nature
and appeal of Ekoda-chan!
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:16] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[04:18] Kataoka
We'll start with the introductions.
If you'd like to go first, Director.
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
[04:20] Shin
Sure.
[04:21] Shin
I'm the director of this episode.
My name is Misawa.
SIGN Episode 7's Director
Misawa Shin
[04:25] Shin
Yep.
[04:26] Doi
Right.
[04:27] Doi
I'm playing Ekoda-chan this time
around. My name is Doi Mika.
SIGN Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
Doi Mika
[04:31] Doi
Good work, everyone.
[04:33] Doi
Good work today.
SIGN What project did you two first meet on?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[04:34] Kataoka
Your first project...
[04:36] Shin
It was "Sasuga no Sarutobi."
[04:38] Doi
Right, it was.
[04:39] Shin
That was actually the first
time we'd worked together.
[04:42] Shin
Well, personally, y'know... well...
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:48] Shin
That was my first
official animation credit.
[04:51] Doi
Oh, was it really?
[04:53] Doi
I see. I remember we recorded
that over near the Tokyo Tower.
[04:55] Shin
Right.
[04:57] Kataoka
The one near the temple?
[04:58] Doi
Right, exactly.
[04:59] Doi
A lot of things appeared in that studio.
[05:02] Shin
Really?
[05:03] Doi
Yeah, all the time.
[05:04] Kataoka
Do you remember your impressions
of each other back then?
SIGN Impressions at the time?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[05:07] Shin
Well, I thought Doi-san was...
[05:13] Shin
I mean, the role was a spy, right?
[05:15] Shin
A spy who was a high school student.
[05:17] Doi
I think on "Sasuga no Sarutobi,"
I actually did three. Three different roles.
[05:22] Shin
Oh, you played multiple characters?
[05:23] Doi
Right.
[05:25] Doi
Yeah.
[05:26] Shin
I thought she had an interesting voice.
[05:29] Doi
Really?
SIGN Thoughts now you've finished recording?
[05:32] Shin
Well... and this is part
of the process every time,
[05:34] Shin
but seeing it gradually
take shape is so much fun.
[05:39] Shin
That's probably the reason I've been
doing this for as long as I have.
[05:44] Shin
And I remember thinking how weird it was
[05:49] Shin
that this title was published in a men's
magazine. It's about a woman, after all.
[05:55] Shin
And when Kataoka-san asked me
to work on the anime...
[06:01] Shin
Well, I... was a bit unsure at
first how exactly to go about it.
[06:09] Shin
But after working
through it for a good while,
[06:14] Shin
here we are, recording the lines today.
[06:17] Shin
That's how it ended up.
[06:18] Kataoka
A lot of people are relieved once
the voice-over work is done.
SIGN Something that you found relieving after the recording.
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[06:21] Shin
Well...
[06:21] Kataoka
Like, "That's one big hurdle down."
[06:24] Shin
I guess you could say it's one
element that's now set in stone.
[06:27] Shin
But I don't feel like I can
just relax now it's done,
[06:29] Shin
because there's still plenty to do.
[06:31] Shin
This feels like more of a midway point.
[06:34] Doi
Lots left to sort out.
[06:35] Shin
But getting Doi-san into
the studio was kind of...
[06:41] Shin
It feels like it's starting to take shape.
[06:43] Shin
Not literally sculpting,
[06:43] Doi
I see.
[06:45] Shin
but like that feeling you get
[06:47] Shin
when clay starts looking
like what it's meant to be.
[06:50] Kataoka
What's your take on it after coming
out of the recording session, Doi-san?
SIGN Doi-san's thoughts now the V.O. session has wrapped up?
[06:54] Doi
I thought it was a lot of fun, really.
[06:57] Doi
I mean... When I got the role,
and started working on it,
[07:02] Doi
I was a bit like,
"Am I the right person for this?"
[07:05] Doi
I was nervous and kinda anxious,
[07:09] Doi
but today... it really felt like
I could just do whatever I wanted.
[07:14] Doi
And because of that, I'm left thinking:
"That was fun. I want to do more."
[07:19] Doi
I mean, especially since the part
I did today was a dream sequence.
[07:25] Doi
So it felt a bit like...
I could go wild with it.
[07:28] Doi
What I mean is, that's how it felt.
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Was it "anything goes" today?
[07:30] Doi
I know the director might have
[07:31] Shin
No, you're right, actually.
[07:32] Doi
a thing or two to say about that...
[07:35] Doi
But it felt to me like,
"Well, it's a dream, yeah?"
[07:39] Doi
"So does that mean I can just go
completely over the top with it?"
[07:46] Kataoka
Was it different from the image
you had in your head?
[07:49] Kataoka
In terms of the direction,
or how the art ended up looking.
SIGN The difference between the impression she got from the manga,
from the script and while doing the recording
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[07:54] Doi
I think so. I got the impression
she was more laid-back.
[07:58] Doi
At least, that's what I took away
from the manga when I read it.
[08:02] Doi
But this went at a hell of a pace!
[08:04] Doi
The tempo was really something,
[08:07] Doi
so it felt like I didn't have time
to worry about much, you know?
[08:11] Doi
Instead of having time to think, "Well, maybe
it should be like this," or, "I'll try it like that"...
[08:17] Doi
That tends to be what
I think when I read something,
[08:19] Doi
but there wasn't any time to consider
those things on a per-scene basis,
[08:24] Doi
so instead, it felt like
someone just went: "Go!"
[08:28] Doi
"Let's get this done!" was the general mood.
[08:31] Kataoka
The part where she cuts the
screen in half with a katana...
SIGN The scene where she cuts the screen in half with a katana
[08:36] Doi
Oh, that bit!
[08:36] Kataoka
I really enjoyed that bit.
Where did you get the idea?
[08:40] Shin
Well, I love the art of the original manga...
[08:44] Shin
And I kind of approached it in
a somewhat unrestricted sort of way,
[08:48] Shin
but since this is ultimately an adaptation
of something that already exists...
[08:53] Shin
I wanted to include the bit where
[08:55] Shin
she literally dispatches the verbal abuse.
[08:55] Doi
That was so therapeutic!
[08:57] Doi
Seeing her just slice through it.
[08:58] Shin
Right.
[08:59] Kataoka
Oh, I remember that now.
[09:01] Doi
I was a little worried I'd overdone it there.
[09:03] Shin
Oh, no, it was great.
[09:04] Doi
That it might be considered
a little too unfeminine.
[09:07] Kataoka
Was there anything
in your performance,
[09:09] Kataoka
like what you just mentioned,
that you were concerned about?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Things she was concerned of when portraying Ekoda-chan
[09:12] Doi
Well, I had my impressions of her
from reading the manga,
[09:14] Doi
and my own take on how I wanted to do things,
[09:18] Doi
but normally, I like to keep all that inside...
Sorta just shove it all down, y'know?
[09:21] Doi
To not over-think that kind of
thing when I'm actually performing,
[09:26] Doi
and instead, focus more on... acting in
the moment, as the situation dictates.
[09:31] Doi
So I don't like to worry
about extraneous stuff,
[09:35] Doi
or drag a lot of baggage into a read,
[09:39] Doi
and instead, just kinda go
out there and get it done.
[09:42] Kataoka
And how did that work for you, Director?
[09:46] Shin
Oh, I thought it was great. Very much so.
[09:49] Shin
Yeah.
[09:51] Kataoka
She hit all the right notes.
[09:51] Shin
Yeah, she did.
[09:52] Doi
I see.
[09:53] Shin
Well, with this project, you
only have three minutes to fill...
[09:59] Shin
So I thought of it in terms
of cramming in as much as I could.
[10:03] Shin
There was honestly a chance
that the emotional tone
[10:07] Shin
might shift with every scene change,
[10:08] Doi
Right.
[10:09] Shin
and I apologize if it was all over the place.
[10:10] Doi
Oh, no, I think...
[10:11] Doi
In the end, that made it better.
[10:14] Shin
That's good to hear.
[10:14] Doi
Better for me, specifically. I enjoyed it.
[10:16] Shin
Thank you.
[10:16] Doi
I'm glad it forced me to just go with it,
[10:18] Doi
instead of over-thinking.
[10:19] Kataoka
Was it a lot of work getting
the run-time down to three minutes?
SIGN The difficulties of a three-minute run-time
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[10:23] Shin
I think so. Well...
[10:25] Shin
If a ton of effort went
into the animation,
[10:28] Shin
I think you could do three
minutes with just a single cut.
[10:32] Shin
But that doesn't always work.
What I wanted to convey
[10:35] Shin
couldn't be done purely
through dialogue, for instance.
[10:39] Shin
When you try to convey
something through film,
[10:42] Shin
I personally think there needs to be
a certain amount of visual storytelling.
[10:47] Shin
And I think that's part of the reason why
there ended up being so many cuts.
[10:51] Kataoka
I think... it might be the most.
SIGN Out of all 12 episodes, this episode contains the most cuts
[10:52] Shin
I wouldn't be surprised.
[10:54] Shin
A few people who've already seen it
have asked me: "Isn't this a bit much?"
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 7's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Doi Mika
SIGN Episode 7's Director
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[11:06] Narrator
In the first half, we discussed the trials
of the production process and the recording.
[11:11] Narrator
In the second half, we'll hear about
Director Misawa's creative focus.
[11:15] Narrator
Is his office filled with yarn?
And is his head in the clouds?
[11:19] Narrator
Just what is going on behind the scenes?
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 7 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[11:26] Kataoka
When I asked you to work on Ekoda-chan,
SIGN What were your reasons for accepting the job?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
[11:30] Kataoka
was there anything in particular that
made you want to take me up on my offer?
[11:37] Shin
Well, when I looked at the
11 other directors you'd lined up,
[11:43] Shin
all I could really think about was,
"What am I going to do?"
[11:47] Shin
But looking beyond that, well...
[11:51] Shin
I just focused on what I thought
would be interesting to do.
[11:56] Shin
I'm personally... not that much of an artist,
[12:02] Shin
so it's not like... I've got some
incredible talent for animation...
[12:10] Kataoka
I wouldn't say that at all.
[12:11] Shin
But I thought art like
this might be interesting.
[12:17] Shin
Plus, this time, I had the dream
concept from the outset.
[12:22] Shin
And the threads came into it
later on in the process.
[12:26] Shin
So after coming up with a
few different takes on her dream,
[12:29] Shin
I started to think I might
not be able to handle it,
[12:32] Shin
but that was when the
threads arrived on the scene,
[12:35] Shin
and I decided to expand on that.
[12:38] Shin
That's when I started thinking I could do it.
[12:40] Shin
As for Ekoda-chan's actual story,
[12:43] Shin
and I feel a bit guilty for doing
this to Takinami-sensei,
[12:46] Shin
but I ended up just
borrowing her characters,
[12:48] Shin
and doing the story of
one of Ekoda-chan's dreams.
[12:53] Shin
And I wanted it to be a story where
Ekoda-chan kind of panics inside her dream.
[13:00] Doi
The way she awakes with a jerk,
[13:03] Doi
and then, checks her man's
hand for the red thread
[13:07] Doi
to see if it's connected to her own finger,
[13:11] Doi
and she reacts like, "Where is it?!"
[13:14] Doi
Something about that was really cute.
[13:18] Doi
It made me realize how adorable she is.
[13:21] Shin
Maa-kun spent the entire episode asleep.
[13:23] Doi
That's right. No lines for Maa-kun.
[13:26] Doi
But she really does love him, doesn't she?
[13:29] Doi
Seriously.
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Ekoda-chan loves Maa-kun
[13:30] Kataoka
It makes you realize
[13:31] Kataoka
that's one way people can fall in love.
[13:32] Doi
Right.
[13:33] Shin
Yeah.
[13:34] Kataoka
That part of her is really sincere.
[13:37] Kataoka
Compared to how she's usually
more ambivalent about things.
[13:40] Kataoka
But when it comes to Maa-kun,
she feels something really pure.
[13:47] Kataoka
It makes me think, "That's the
core of Ekoda-chan's nature!"
[13:51] Kataoka
The thing with it being a dream sequence is,
since it's not happening in reality,
[13:55] Kataoka
you can kind of do anything, including
with the performance like she mentioned.
[13:59] Kataoka
But how exactly did you come up with
the idea of using a dream sequence?
[14:02] Shin
To be honest, this is what my dreams are like.
SIGN Why did the dream end up the way it did?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[14:07] Shin
All my dreams are super realistic,
[14:10] Shin
and I have trouble telling if I'm really
experiencing something or dreaming.
[14:17] Shin
And even when I can tell that I'm dreaming...
that it's all just a dream... well...
[14:25] Shin
I have no idea what's inspired the
things I'm seeing in that dream.
[14:31] Shin
So, when you ask me how
this story ended up like this,
[14:34] Shin
ultimately... it's because my own
dreams are a bit like what you see here.
[14:42] Kataoka
Regarding the ending to Misawa-san's episode,
[14:45] Doi
Right.
[14:46] Kataoka
it's totally different from
[14:48] Kataoka
what the other directors did,
which I think is great.
[14:51] Kataoka
How'd you come up with that ending?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN How did he come up with the ending?
[14:55] Shin
Well, the strings all are
connected to something, right?
[14:58] Shin
And then, there's the idea of how,
with the internet, everyone is connected.
[15:04] Shin
So there's this element, I think,
[15:07] Shin
where people are shocked whenever
they feel like they're disconnected,
[15:11] Shin
and even for Ekoda-chan,
who likes her freedom,
[15:13] Shin
she still wants to be connected to someone.
[15:17] Shin
I think her realizing that
is what leads to that ending.
[15:22] Kataoka
The way that her mom and
sister show up at that point...
[15:30] Doi
Family, right?
[15:30] Kataoka
Right.
[15:31] Shin
In the end, they're all you really have.
[15:36] Kataoka
I think that...
[15:38] Kataoka
Something I've realized is,
her sister has a lot of fans.
[15:44] Shin
Yeah. I honestly wanted to draw her some more!
[15:46] Kataoka
I see.
SIGN The secrets to
Director Misawa's
methods
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[15:54] Shin
Well, when it comes to things
I struggled with, or focused on a lot...
SIGN Was there anything
production-wise that gave you issues?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
[15:59] Shin
I think since the threads are
a core element of the story...
[16:04] Shin
See, with the strings, when we used
to actually photograph animation,
[16:09] Shin
I think we would've placed
actual strings in the scene,
[16:12] Shin
along with the background
and the animation cels...
[16:16] Shin
But since everything's digital
now, there's nothing tactile.
[16:22] Shin
So instead, I created a
digital image of the string,
[16:25] Shin
and then, along with the
footage, made a composite.
[16:28] Shin
And the thing is...
[16:29] Shin
I had to change how it was arranged
for every cut, or it wouldn't have worked.
[16:33] Shin
It's not like I could use one
sample and work with just that.
[16:38] Shin
So I had to keep messing with it
and altering it for each scene change.
[16:44] Kataoka
And the thing about Misawa-san is,
he handles materials like that personally.
[16:48] Doi
Right.
SIGN Director Misawa's personal approach
to adding in mixed media material
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[16:49] Kataoka
So he then creates the digital version,
[16:51] Kataoka
and composites it into
the digital footage....
[16:53] Kataoka
Inserting it into the actual
animation, in other words.
[16:56] Kataoka
And he does all of that by himself.
[16:58] Doi
Wow. By himself?
[17:00] Kataoka
That's something about
Misawa-san's approach to animation...
[17:04] Kataoka
When he does things the hard way, he takes
it upon himself to do the work needed.
[17:09] Shin
I guess so.
[17:10] Shin
I mean, that's a habit
I've had since the cel days.
[17:13] Shin
If I had an elaborate, multi-layered kimono,
[17:15] Doi
Right.
[17:16] Shin
I'd buy decorative paper and lay it out.
[17:18] Doi
Twelve separate pieces...
[17:18] Shin
And that'd put a lot of space
[17:20] Shin
between the cel and the background.
[17:21] Doi
Right.
[17:22] Shin
So I'd get calls from the filming
department, saying, "This isn't working."
[17:26] Shin
But even with people
getting mad at me like that,
[17:29] Shin
that's the kind of director I became.
[17:30] Doi
In spite of it all!
[17:31] Kataoka
The scene where she's drowning in
the sea, and her head pops back up...
[17:36] Shin
Right.
[17:37] Kataoka
It's a sea of yarn.
[17:38] Shin
Right. I'm going to work on
the effect for ripples next.
[17:41] Kataoka
Ripples in the string?
[17:42] Shin
Yeah.
[17:43] Kataoka
Like waves.
[17:44] Shin
It kind of makes me think that
actually setting it up analog style
[17:49] Shin
would've been less work all around.
[17:51] Kataoka
Really?
[17:52] Kataoka
I think you'd end up
drowning in yarn yourself.
[17:55] Doi
You said earlier
[17:56] Doi
your house was filled with yarn...
[17:57] Shin
Right.
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Director Misawa's office is full of yarn
[17:58] Shin
Well, less my house, more my office.
[18:00] Shin
I've got a ton of yarn
everywhere at the moment.
[18:04] Shin
I honestly don't think I've ever interacted
with yarn quite so much before,
[18:09] Shin
and it turns out, different types
are more distinct than you'd think.
[18:12] Shin
Sometimes, certain types refuse to curve the
way you want them to, even if you pin them down,
[18:17] Shin
and I got the feeling that yarn
really has a mind of its own.
[18:23] Shin
So I was thinking, "Please curve the right way!"
while I was setting up all the strands.
[18:28] Shin
One thing I'm having trouble
with right now are the clouds.
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN The problems he's had depicting clouds
[18:33] Shin
I don't like to spend a lot of money,
[18:36] Shin
so I went to a local futon store...
[18:36] Doi
Right.
[18:38] Doi
Right.
[18:40] Doi
For cotton?
[18:41] Shin
I'd ask them, "What do you think of this?"
And I get the feeling the staff there...
[18:45] Shin
think I work in theater or something.
[18:48] Shin
I actually told them I work in anime,
[18:49] Shin
but conversations we have
just end up in theater talk.
[18:52] Shin
So they made various recommendations
for what would work as clouds,
[18:58] Shin
but I'm having a bit of trouble
trying to make them look right.
[19:03] Shin
Whenever I try to use a scanner,
the material ends up
[19:06] Shin
getting squished and looking all wrong.
[19:07] Doi
That makes sense.
[19:09] Doi
It wouldn't have the right volume.
[19:09] Shin
It basically just gets flattened.
[19:11] Shin
But when I take pictures with a camera,
it just looks like a piece of cotton.
[19:15] Shin
I'm having trouble nailing down
[19:17] Shin
the exact details at the moment.
[19:19] Doi
I like that.
[19:20] Doi
I like how you're still very particular,
so you're searching for a solution.
[19:24] Shin
I'm not sure if it's actually a good idea...
[19:25] Doi
Something to look forward to...
[19:27] Kataoka
I've worked with Director Misawa
[19:27] Doi
To see how it turns out.
[19:30] Kataoka
a few times in the past,
[19:32] Kataoka
and his animation always has
this handcrafted feel to it.
[19:36] Kataoka
And I'm all for that, because I feel
it gives the work a kind of warmth.
SIGN The depths of Ekoda-chan
as a character
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[19:45] Doi
Well, at first, it struck me how she'd
just come out and say all these things...
SIGN Do you have anything in common with Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
SIGN Misawa Shin x Doi Mika
[19:54] Doi
I thought she was really sharp
with all these retorts.
[19:57] Kataoka
Right.
[19:57] Doi
But when I read a bit more,
I realized she's not actually saying them.
[20:02] Doi
She's just thinking them.
[20:04] Doi
And I think that, really, all women...
[20:07] Doi
And to be honest, all men do it, too...
[20:11] Doi
The difference between the choice of
words you use when talking to someone,
[20:15] Doi
and what's actually going through
your head is pronounced.
[20:18] Doi
Like, she might be thinking
something pretty inflammatory,
[20:22] Doi
and when I have those moments, too,
[20:23] Doi
it makes me realize that me and
Ekoda-chan aren't so different, after all.
[20:30] Doi
I mean, you always hear about
women reading it and going:
[20:33] Doi
"Oh, I'm definitely like this!"
in regards to certain parts.
[20:37] Doi
That's how it really felt.
[20:39] Kataoka
Misawa-san.
[20:40] Shin
Well...
[20:42] Shin
I definitely get the desire
to make snarky comments,
[20:48] Shin
so I always find it most interesting when
she does actually come out and say them.
[20:53] Kataoka
If you could sum up Ekoda
or her appeal in a few words...
[20:57] Kataoka
Keeping it short, how would you describe her?
[20:59] Doi
I think that, with all her cute traits,
SIGN How would you sum up Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Misawa
Shin
[21:03] Doi
she's kind of got this
old-fashioned feel to her.
[21:08] Doi
That's how she seems to me.
[21:11] Shin
To sum her up... I guess
she lives according to her whims?
[21:18] Shin
I mean... she might lie to herself,
in one way or another,
[21:24] Shin
but when she does, it's for the
sake of pursuing what she wants,
[21:28] Shin
so I really get the feeling that
she's just living life the way she wants to.
[21:33] Shin
Something Doi-san said...
[21:34] Shin
about how we think up snappy
remarks we don't say out loud.
[21:37] Doi
I know I do!
[21:39] Shin
Whether it's on the train, or wherever...
[21:43] Shin
When there are things that strike you as odd...
I think we all have those thoughts.
[21:47] Shin
So I think, in the case of Ekoda-chan,
[21:49] Shin
her saying those things
is an expression of that.
[21:52] Shin
I think she might be a way of
Yukari-sensei sharing how she feels.
[22:00] Doi
That makes sense.
[22:01] Kataoka
Would you go out with her?
[22:03] Shin
Oh, if she'd have me, then sure. Of course.
[22:06] Kataoka
That's a yes.
[22:07] Shin
Yeah.
[22:08] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:12] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:15] Narrator
we have the director of Episode 8,
who has a very particular style,
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:19] Narrator
and someone we seem to have met before?
[22:21] Narrator
A voice actress who looks
a bit like Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:23] Narrator
discusses how she seems to the world.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:28] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Boa
SIGN Face
SIGN Pole
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
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SIGN Find everything You Need in the Ginza Shopping District
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
[00:03] Ladies
What? She got a divorce?
SIGN Nogata
[00:05] M
What? Seriously?
[00:07] Guys
You didn't know?
[00:09] Guys
I figured, seeing as how I told Ekoda-san,
[00:13] Guys
she woulda told you that already, M-san.
[00:15] M
Nope...
[00:17] Guys
M-senpai, what line of work is Ekoda-san in?
[00:21] M
Work?
[00:23] Guys
The other day, I called her up early,
[00:25] Guys
and she answered with
"Thank you for your phone call!"
[00:28] M
She's a call handler
[00:29] M
at some life insurance firm, so she was probably
half asleep and thought she was at work.
[00:33] Guys
Huh?
[00:34] Guys
I heard she wiggles her butt
onstage at a pub over in Shinjuku.
[00:38] Guys
Huh? Isn't it a Philippine pub?
[00:41] Guys
She's not even Filipina!
[00:43] Guys
I thought she worked at a Chinese
restaurant in this part of town.
[00:46] Guys
Really? I worked with her on a
short-term gig a while ago, though.
[00:50] Guys
So what exactly does Ekoda do?
[00:54] M
What are you asking me for?
[00:56] M
I'm not her babysitter.
[01:03] Guys
Still... Ekoda-san's pretty amazing.
[01:06] Ladies
Right? I wish I could be like her.
SIGN You have five missed calls
[01:09] Guys
Maybe she's a robot?
[01:11] Guys
Ekoda-01, Ekoda-02, Ekoda Mass
Production Model, Ekoda Hybrid!
[01:16] Guys
Hey, you get better mileage outta that one!
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
SIGN Ekoda
[01:21] Lady
Sorry I'm late!
[01:23] Guys
We've been waiting for you!
[01:25] Guys
Come on in!
[01:27] Lady
Y'know, I saw Ekoda-chan at the supermarket.
[01:32] Lady
She was buying some really
expensive-looking beef.
[01:37] Lady
She seemed really
excited about something!
[01:39] Guy
Why didn't she show today, anyway?
[01:42] Guy
I asked M-san to let her know...
[01:49] M
Sorry. I'm calling it a night.
[01:52] M
Later.
[01:58] Guys
Come join us.
[02:00] Guys
Park your butt already.
[02:01] Lady
Okay!
[02:04] M
I'm coming in.
[02:11] M
You cooked for him and he canceled
at the last second again, huh?
[02:14] Ekoda
Don't spell it out like that!
[02:16] Ekoda
Sorry about the other day...
[02:19] M
The whole "You won't get anywhere if you keep
nurturing these unrequited crushes" thing?
[02:24] M
It's fine. After all, it's true.
[02:27] M
There was a drinking party tonight,
[02:29] M
and I was supposed to invite you, but I didn't.
[02:34] Ekoda
What the hell?!
[02:35] Ekoda
Why do you have to get
so moody about this stuff?!
[02:38] M
Maybe I wouldn't if you stopped
one-ringing me to get my attention!
[02:45] Ekoda
I bet no one interesting showed up, anyway.
[02:48] M
Yup. Not an interesting person in sight.
[02:52] Ekoda
Okay! Time for another helping!
[02:55] Ekoda
I love meat.
[02:57] Ekoda
It never cancels on you, or badmouths you.
[03:00] Ekoda
The fact that we can't marry meat shows
just how behind the times this country is.
[03:04] M
You'll put on weight.
[03:05] Ekoda
I'll just get back to normal again later.
[03:08] Ekoda
As many times as I need to.
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 8: Kojima Masayuki,
SIGN Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
[04:00] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Ise Mariya.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
[04:02] Narrator
On top of getting behind-the-scenes
tales from the director,
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
SIGN Episode 8's Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
[04:05] Narrator
we'll also hear about a surprising clash!
[04:07] Narrator
Get ready for a candid story.
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:16] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
[04:23] Kataoka
What are your thoughts?
SIGN Your thoughts now the recording is over
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Episode 8's Director
Kojima Masayuki
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
Ise Mariya
[04:25] Kojima
Well, it was a short project,
[04:29] Kojima
but we had a recording session
with a good number of voices.
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:36] Kojima
And I think the voice work
turned out perfect.
[04:39] Ise
Really?
[04:40] Ise
Well, I think, first of all, I'm relieved
it turned out as well as it did.
[04:45] Ise
Before the recording,
I read through the manga,
[04:52] Ise
and viewed through the lens of social norms,
Ekoda-chan's way of life seems modern,
[05:00] Ise
but the work itself has
been around for quite a while,
[05:04] Ise
so I guess that means it portrays some
ubiquitous feminine experience?
[05:09] Ise
Like, it makes you think: "Women like
this must exist in every time period."
[05:12] Ise
And the thought of me portraying
Ekoda-chan, giving her a voice...
[05:18] Ise
I felt a bit of pressure over how
exactly I should go about voicing her,
[05:24] Ise
so once we were done, I felt
a real sense of relief that it was all over.
[05:29] Ise
Well, when I was reading the manga,
SIGN How Ekoda-chan talks
[05:33] Ise
I thought she'd probably have
a sorta flat way of talking.
[05:37] Ise
She has a wide range of emotions,
[05:39] Ise
but when she's expressing herself,
there aren't a lot of wild swings.
[05:42] Ise
And I thought about how
she's not particularly intense.
[05:45] Ise
I mean, she's at home and naked a lot.
[05:49] Ise
When she's talking to herself,
her monologues can get pretty wild,
[05:53] Ise
but when she's actually speaking to people,
[05:56] Ise
I got the feeling she'd
sound more dispassionate.
[06:00] Ise
But during the recording,
Yamada-san, the audio director,
[06:03] Ise
said, "I'm happy for you to be
as expressive as you want."
[06:10] Ise
So she ended up sounding
a lot like Ise Mariya.
[06:14] Ise
At least, that's how I think it ended up.
[06:16] Ise
Well... Personally I...
SIGN Similarities to Ekoda-chan!?
[06:19] Ise
I mean, I can't see too many
similarities between us.
[06:23] Ise
At least, that's how it seems to me.
[06:27] Ise
But Kataoka-san told me: "Y'know,
when I was reading Ekoda-chan,
[06:31] Ise
a lot of the things she does
reminded me of you."
[06:35] Ise
And I was sort of pleased about that,
but it was... a complicated feeling.
[06:39] Ise
Well, I think our strengths
might be similar, yeah.
[06:43] Ise
If that's what you meant, I'm glad to hear it.
[06:45] Ise
What's so funny, Director Kojima?
[06:47] Ise
I was just thinking...
[06:48] Kojima
He knows you pretty well.
[06:49] Ise
Seriously?
SIGN The character of Ekoda-chan
[06:52] Ise
Well, we only did the one episode,
so looking at it in isolation...
[06:58] Ise
The episode kind of builds up
your curiosity about Ekoda-chan,
[07:02] Ise
and just as your curiosity
peaks, the episode ends.
[07:07] Ise
And it underscores how she doesn't
care what other people think of her.
[07:12] Ise
I personally thought the strength of
character you'd need to live like that
[07:18] Ise
really comes through in her final line.
[07:21] Ise
"I'll just get back to normal again later.
As many times as I need to."
[07:24] Ise
I thought that part was really wonderful.
[07:27] Ise
And I believed it really got across
her sort of... What would you call it?
[07:32] Ise
Her clear outlook, or I guess, not having
baggage coloring her perspective.
[07:36] Ise
And I wanted that to come
through in the performance.
[07:39] Ise
I think this vignette happens right
after she's been rebuffed romantically,
[07:44] Ise
and the way she compares
relationships to meat...
[07:47] Ise
About how nice it is, and
how it doesn't badmouth her...
[07:50] Ise
And how Japan is behind the times
for not letting people marry meat.
[07:54] Ise
I thought that was something that hinged
on getting that last line just right, as well.
[07:59] Ise
To get across that sentiment of how it
doesn't matter how many men leave her,
[08:03] Ise
she can always find someone new.
[08:05] Ise
That shows real mental strength.
[08:09] Kataoka
It sounds like you're comparing
[08:10] Kataoka
her reaction with your own.
[08:10] Ise
Yes, I think so.
[08:12] Ise
Well, y'know... there's always another
romance right around the corner, right?
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 8 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN The reasons behind choosing this particular storyline
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
[08:23] Kataoka
Was there any particular reason
you chose this kind of story?
[08:26] Kojima
Any particular reason?
[08:28] Kojima
Well... it's got a lot of
different aspects to it,
[08:32] Kojima
and I thought it'd help get across
some of the character's dynamism.
[08:35] Kojima
In terms of animation, it's kind
of, like... How should I put it?
[08:39] Kojima
I thought I could take it in a direction
which would have a lot of impact.
[08:42] Kojima
And I get the feeling people
expect me to go in that direction.
[08:47] Kojima
So when it came to what I wanted to do...
[08:51] Kojima
There's a special kind of friendship, I guess
you'd call it, that can exist between two women.
[08:56] Kojima
That was the kind of thing
I wanted to depict.
[09:00] Kojima
And that's why I ended up going for this.
[09:03] Ise
There's the way that Ekoda-chan and M
have a fight before the story even starts,
SIGN The relationship that exists between our duo
and the characteristics of Director Kojima's works
[09:09] Ise
so they go their separate ways for a bit,
[09:12] Ise
but then, M comes back,
and the two of them make up.
[09:18] Ise
I thought: "That's just what
I'd expect from Director Kojima."
[09:21] Ise
Sorta depicting the bond
they share as friends.
[09:26] Ise
The fact that you focused
on that impressed me.
[09:30] Kojima
Well, when I accepted
the offer to work on this,
[09:34] Kojima
some of the things I've worked
on before have been kind of...
[09:38] Kojima
So I wanted to work on something
outside of the genres I'm known for,
[09:43] Kojima
but ultimately, it ended up being
a lot like my other shows.
[09:48] Ise
Even with a short run-time,
it was pretty dramatic.
SIGN An episode about how Ekoda-chan is viewed by third parties
[09:52] Ise
You know how, a lot of the time,
[09:54] Ise
the strip begins with
Ekoda-chan greeting the reader?
[09:58] Ise
So, mentally, I was expecting that to be
the first line when I opened the script,
[10:03] Ise
and then, I was like, "Huh?
She barely has any lines!"
[10:06] Ise
So that was a shock, but also,
a really creative approach.
[10:10] Ise
Although, I was kinda like,
"Is she ever gonna say anything?"
[10:13] Ise
But I think, in terms of what you were
trying to get across in the episode,
[10:19] Ise
instead of Ekoda-chan standing
center stage as the protagonist,
[10:23] Ise
it's an examination of her
relationships with other people.
[10:26] Ise
It shows how the people
around Ekoda-chan view her.
[10:31] Ise
And I thought that was interesting,
and tried to lean into that take on her.
[10:37] Ise
In the end, I didn't think
I needed any more lines.
[10:40] Kojima
I kinda expected you to want more.
[10:43] Kojima
But, you know, what she says is right.
[10:46] Kojima
The whole motif of "How other
people see Ekoda-chan..."
[10:50] Kojima
I thought that'd be a good thing to focus on.
SIGN Ise-san and Director Kojima's past collaborations
[10:54] Kataoka
How did the two of you meet, anyway?
[10:56] Kojima
When was our first meeting?
[10:58] Ise
I think we first met on "Bottom Biting Bug."
[11:00] Kojima
Oh, that's right.
[11:02] Kataoka
"Bottom Biting Bug"?
[11:02] Ise
Yes, we worked together on a show
called "Bottom Biting Bug,"
[11:07] Ise
and after that came "Made in Abyss,"
where we interacted with each other a lot.
[11:15] Ise
I think that just about covers it.
[11:18] Ise
There were some moments on that last one
which proved to be pretty difficult,
SIGN Ise-san's opinion of Director Kojima's talent
[11:22] Ise
and those scenes were the ones
lifted wholesale from the manga
[11:27] Ise
in a way that almost hurt to watch,
[11:31] Ise
but the question came up about exactly how
Director Kojima would depict those scenes.
[11:38] Ise
That was something the audio director,
Yamada-san, asked at the time.
[11:42] Ise
And seeing the end result made me
trust Director Kojima's judgment.
[11:47] Ise
He was really good at depicting the growth
and friendship of those children.
[11:54] Ise
That was the impression I came away with.
[11:56] Kojima
Really?
[11:58] Kojima
Well, and I think this applies
to both Ekoda-chan and Abyss,
SIGN Director Kojima on playing to his strengths
[12:03] Kojima
I sort of feel like... you have
to play to your strengths.
[12:07] Kojima
To make something you'll be satisfied with,
[12:10] Kojima
it means working with...
what you have, really.
[12:16] Kojima
And it's not like I intended
to do something ultra-personal.
[12:21] Kojima
I was trying to do it in the
style of the source material.
[12:23] Ise
You were?
[12:25] Kojima
I wanted to keep the flavor
of the manga and then,
[12:31] Kojima
apply the sort of creative process
that animation benefits from.
[12:35] Kojima
I thought that's what'd work best.
SIGN On actually visiting the Ekoda neighborhood
as part of their research
[12:40] Kojima
Well, we actually visited the pub that shows
up in the episode as part of our research.
[12:47] Kojima
It's called Nogata.
[12:48] Kataoka
Ah, Nogata!
[12:49] Kojima
Right.
[12:50] Ise
Nogata...
[12:51] Kataoka
You should come with us next time, Ise-san.
[12:53] Ise
Sure.
[12:54] Ise
Sounds good. Get some drinks.
[12:56] Kojima
I wasn't actually drinking,
but the food was delicious.
[13:01] Ise
That sounds nice. I'd love to go.
[13:04] Kojima
I think that, unless I have a good
grasp of the scene in my head,
[13:10] Kojima
I get really anxious about not being
able to fill in the details very well.
[13:15] Kojima
So I figured, since this was a real location,
[13:22] Kojima
I'd go check it out, take
some pictures for reference,
[13:27] Kojima
and make sure it looked right.
SIGN Subtle considerations in the line reads and the depiction
[13:34] Ise
Something that stood out
to me that the director did
[13:39] Ise
that I thought was especially thoughtful...
[13:42] Ise
It was during the scene in the pub,
which had some ad-libbing...
[13:48] Ise
And one of the men asks,
"What line of work is Ekoda-chan in?"
[13:52] Ise
"Oh, she works at a pub
that does shows in Shinjuku."
[13:56] Ise
And then, after that, there's
a line in the script that says:
[13:59] Ise
"Isn't it a Philippine pub?"
[14:02] Ise
And the first take the guy did of it...
[14:06] Ise
It had a bit of an "Oh? Isn't it
a Philippine pub?" feel to it.
[14:09] Ise
The portrayal felt a little snarky.
[14:15] Ise
But then, Director Kojima, or maybe
it was the audio director, Yamada-san,
[14:19] Ise
said it was probably better to
just ask the question normally,
[14:22] Ise
like it was a genuine case of not knowing.
[14:24] Ise
That was the direction
that was given on that line.
[14:29] Ise
And I thought, "Wow," and was
really impressed by that reaction.
[14:32] Ise
How it showed that Ekoda-chan,
and women like her,
[14:36] Ise
may have all kinds of
part-time jobs or careers,
[14:38] Ise
but since they're working hard
to make their way through life,
[14:45] Ise
they don't deserve mockery. Their choices
should be accepted for what they are.
[14:50] Ise
And the fact that such close attention was
paid to the performance to show that
[14:54] Ise
struck me as a really admirable sentiment.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 8's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Ise Mariya
SIGN Episode 8's Director
SIGN Kojima Masayuki
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[15:07] Narrator
Ise-san is apparently
just like Ekoda-chan,
[15:09] Narrator
and Director Kojima has
a style he likes to stick to.
[15:13] Narrator
In the second half, we'll dig deeper into
the character of Ekoda-chan with these two.
[15:18] Narrator
And we'll hear a surprising story
of Ise-san getting into a huge fight!
SIGN The Director x The VA
& Ekoda-chan
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Ekoda-chan is 24
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Kojima Masayuki x Ise Mariya
[15:28] Ise
Ekoda-chan's supposed to be 24 in the story,
[15:35] Ise
but she seems a lot more
worldly and a lot older to me.
[15:40] Ise
But she also gives off this youthful air.
[15:43] Ise
And I think that might be because Ekoda-chan
herself isn't too concerned about age.
[15:49] Ise
It's just part of what gives her such
a fiercely independent, freewheeling life.
[15:56] Ise
I personally don't let age
trip me up much, either.
[16:02] Ise
It's more about what my goal is
from one moment to the next.
[16:07] Ise
I think I'm the kind of person who
chooses her path based on that.
[16:11] Ise
So I think that's one thing...
[16:13] Ise
Actually, now, after this discussion,
[16:16] Ise
I'm starting to realize we
do have a lot in common.
SIGN Director Kojima at 24
[16:19] Kojima
Well, of course, Ekoda-chan is 24,
[16:25] Kojima
but I think there's a pretty big difference
between men and women at that age.
[16:29] Kojima
I get the feeling,
psychologically speaking,
[16:32] Kojima
a woman would be more mature at 24.
[16:38] Kojima
I think when I was 24,
[16:41] Kojima
I'd been in animation for about three years.
[16:45] Kojima
I mostly remember it as a period
of working all-nighters, though.
[16:53] Kojima
At my current age, I totally
understand Ekoda-chan's charm,
[16:58] Kojima
but I think when I was 24, I wouldn't
have wanted to come within a meter of her.
SIGN Being friends with Ekoda-chan
[17:04] Ise
Good question.
[17:05] Ise
I think if I had a friend, or a best
friend, who was just like Ekoda-chan...
[17:15] Ise
I'd be really worried about her!
[17:19] Ise
But y'know, if you accept that that's
just who she is, just part of her nature,
[17:24] Ise
then, I think it'd involve meeting
up every now and then to catch up,
[17:28] Ise
and there'd be a lot of, "So that's what's going
on with Ekoda-chan. She never changes."
[17:32] Ise
I think I'd really look forward to
hearing what's going on in her life.
[17:37] Ise
I've never had many fights
with my best friends...
[17:42] Ise
Honestly, beyond middle school,
not many fights, period.
[17:46] Ise
Though, when I was in high school,
[17:47] Ise
I ended up bickering with someone
because of a misunderstanding.
SIGN Ise-san's voice actress friend, Han Megumi-san
[17:51] Ise
In this episode, Han Megumi-chan,
who plays Friend M,
[17:59] Ise
she and I are really... We've got a relationship
kind of like Ekoda-chan and Friend M.
[18:05] Ise
We're sort of voice-acting war buddies.
[18:10] Ise
So when I heard she'd been
cast in this, I was really happy.
[18:14] Ise
Now, I was already an adult when I met her,
[18:19] Ise
but there was this one time
when we did have a fight.
[18:22] Ise
It was during "Hunter x Hunter"...
SIGN A fight with her war buddy, Han Megumi!?
[18:24] Kataoka
The Gon and Killua duo?
[18:25] Ise
That's us. We were playing
Gon and Killua at the time,
[18:28] Ise
and we got into a serious
fight at the studio...
[18:33] Ise
In the lobby.
[18:35] Ise
And it ended up being really funny...
[18:38] Ise
Because as we were arguing,
we started sounding like our roles.
[18:44] Ise
She sounded like Gon,
and I sounded like Killua,
[18:46] Ise
going "Screw you, it only ended up
like that because you did this!"
[18:49] Ise
We both started to sound like little boys!
[18:52] Ise
And when I realized that,
I was really shocked,
[18:56] Ise
because... the boundary where
the role ends and you begin...
[19:00] Ise
That had blurred for both of us.
[19:03] Ise
The roles were starting
to project themselves onto us.
[19:08] Ise
I'd never experienced anything like it.
[19:09] Kataoka
That sounds amazing. I wish I'd been there.
[19:12] Kojima
Seriously.
[19:14] Ise
Yeah.
[19:14] Kojima
I kind of wonder how many people
like her are left in the world.
SIGN Ekoda-chan's appeal
[19:23] Kojima
That was something I thought
when I read the manga, as well.
[19:28] Kojima
I think... in modern times...
[19:31] Kojima
And it's not just women;
this applies to men, too...
[19:36] Kojima
But the kind of vitality she has...
[19:40] Kojima
Being able to maintain that is
something I personally wish I could do.
[19:44] Kojima
And I wanted to convey the
energy she has to the viewers.
[19:51] Kojima
So I hope that came across.
[19:56] Kojima
The vitality and energy she brings
[20:00] Kojima
is really wonderful.
[20:01] Ise
Right.
[20:02] Kojima
And it strikes me that those two things
[20:06] Kojima
are the kind of traits you don't
find in a lot of women anymore.
[20:13] Kojima
And I hope it maybe
inspires people who see this
[20:17] Kojima
to display that kind of
energy in their lives, too.
[20:22] Ise
Right.
SIGN "Not being normal" isn't a bad thing
[20:24] Kojima
The question of "What's
wrong with not being normal?"
[20:30] Kojima
That was something I wanted
to get across with this, too,
[20:37] Kojima
but I think maybe three minutes
wasn't enough to really deliver on that.
[20:41] Kojima
And it was hard getting it across
even to the degree we did.
[20:47] Kojima
But the idea that there's nothing
wrong with not being "normal"...
[20:50] Kojima
On some level, I tell that
to myself, as well, but...
[20:54] Kojima
But I think that's part of Ekoda-chan's power,
[20:56] Kojima
and I hope that people
watching, especially women,
[21:04] Kojima
get that part of the message
that's instilled in there.
SIGN A message for viewers
[21:09] Ise
I think that the way
Ekoda-chan lives her life...
[21:14] Ise
Well, I think it's kind of admirable. Like...
[21:20] Ise
in the way she doesn't let people
around her influence her too much.
[21:23] Ise
And the way she makes decisions
based on her own values,
[21:29] Ise
and I think that's something I find
really impressive as a fellow woman,
[21:33] Ise
but I honestly think
it's something, gender aside,
[21:39] Ise
more people should try to aspire to.
[21:43] Ise
And y'know, I think there are probably
still a lot of secret Ekoda-chans out there.
[21:50] Ise
And that they're... I dunno, just lurking...
[21:52] Ise
and can be found in all kinds of places.
[21:57] Kataoka
I know one who isn't hiding.
[21:58] Ise
I guess I'm not!
[21:59] Ise
Yeah, I'm definitely not hiding.
[22:03] Ise
So I'm going to continue down
the Ekoda-chan highway,
[22:06] Ise
in terms of how I want to live.
[22:10] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:14] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
a replacement steps in
for a missing director?!
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:20] Narrator
Looks like we might be relying
on Ekoda-chan's actress next week!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:25] Narrator
Will the round table discussion work out?
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:28] Narrator
Tune in to find out!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Face
SIGN Contours
SIGN Hair
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
E9
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[00:05] Ekoda
Thank you for calling. This is the Phoenix
Life Insurance customer service center.
[00:09] Customer
Um... My husband passed away...
[00:11] Ekoda
My condolences. This must
be a difficult time for you.
[00:15] Ekoda
Great. More death...
[00:15] Ekoda
May I ask the name on the
policy or the customer number?
[00:18] Customer
It's Idenoguchi Shuhei.
[00:20] Ekoda
Idenoguchi Shuhei-sama, correct?
[00:24] Kouhai
Looks like you hit the
jackpot today, sis!
[00:27] Ekoda
Four out of the five claims
I've processed have been suicides.
[00:29] Ekoda
And don't call me "sis."
[00:31] Kouhai
But that's what you are, sis!
[00:33] Kouhai
Wow, I go for a quick break and
come back to find 40 callers waiting?
[00:37] Kouhai
I am now entering "operations mode"!
[00:39] Kouhai
Operations, switching on!
[00:41] Kouhai
Thank you for calling.
[00:43] Ekoda
Looks like someone's having fun.
[00:43] Kouhai
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
[00:46] Ekoda
I sit here day after day, in the same seat,
with the same scripted responses...
[00:49] Co-worker
Thank you for your call.
[00:50] Ekoda
Wow, look at that beautiful sunset.
[00:53] Ekoda
And I'm the only one who's noticed it.
[00:56] Ekoda
There's something soothing about that...
[00:58] Kouhai
Hey, sis!
[01:00] Boss
I don't see hands moving.
[01:03] Ekoda
I guess I must've spaced out for a sec...
[01:05] Boss
And while you space out, the calls stack up.
[01:08] Ekoda
Sorry about that.
[01:10] Kouhai
Y'know... I heard she's got a toyboy.
[01:13] Ekoda
I heard she's got a bunch of toyboys.
[01:16] Coworker
Wait, what? A bunch?
[01:18] Ekoda
I threw in a few extra.
[01:20] Customer
Yeah, the last person I talked to
was terrible. Can I speak to a manager?
[01:22] Ekoda
Great. I've got a whiner.
[01:24] Ekoda
One moment, please.
[01:26] Ekoda
And the signal is...
SIGN Smoke
& mirrors
[01:31] Ekoda
My supervisor's currently away from
his desk, but I can take your call.
[01:35] Customer
Fine. Just put me on with that
Kato person I was talking to earlier.
[01:35] Ekoda
Excuse #1.
[01:37] Ekoda
We have several Katos here.
[01:39] Ekoda
I can find out who you were speaking to
if you give me your name and policy number.
[01:44] Customer
What a pain in the ass.
[01:46] Ekoda
Stormy weather all around, huh?
[01:48] Customer
06294028461, Yamada Yoko.
[01:53] Customer
Now, put Kato on.
[01:54] Ekoda
I'm terribly sorry, ma'am...
[01:56] Ekoda
The Kato in question is
currently on another call.
[01:59] Yamada
All right, fine!
[01:59] Ekoda
Excuse #2.
[02:01] Ekoda
Oh, she's gone.
[02:03] Ekoda
And so's the power?
[02:05] Boss
It's just a blackout!
[02:05] Kouhai
Game over, man!
[02:06] Boss
Backup power should kick in any second!
[02:08] Boss
Everyone, remain calm!
[02:08] Ekoda
Ah, here we go.
[02:09] Boss
Please don't leave your desks!
[02:10] Ekoda
The lights are taking their time, though.
[02:15] Kouhai
Selecting optimal course of action:
conserve energy for moment of reactivation.
[02:21] Ekoda
More than 50 callers waiting...
[02:23] Ekoda
Is it even worth bothering,
in the circumstances?
[02:26] Boss
Please get back to work!
[02:30] Coworker
I can't take it!
[02:31] Boss
Hey! Don't just run off!
[02:34] Kouhai
Returning to duty!
[02:35] Kouhai
Re-entering "operations mode"!
[02:37] Kouhai
Ops, on!
[02:41] Kouhai
Thank you for your call.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN Verify their
information!
[02:43] Kouhai
This is the Phoenix Life Insurance
customer service center.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN I understand
your frustration!
SIGN You got this!
[02:43] Ekoda
It's utter chaos in here.
SIGN No snacking!
SIGN We can go out for seafood after work!
SIGN Verify their
information!
SIGN I understand
your frustration!
SIGN You got this!
SIGN You got this!
[02:45] Ekoda
I want to run away, too.
[02:47] Ekoda
But it's not in my nature to go off the deep end
and lose control when all hell breaks loose.
[02:52] Ekoda
Thank you for your call. You're through to
Phoenix Life Insurance customer services.
[02:56] Customer
Um... My son caught a STD and...
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:51] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we would be unveiling the
director of Episode 9: Takahashi Takeo,
SIGN Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
[03:58] Narrator
but he passed up the chance to appear!
SIGN Episode 9's Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
[04:01] Narrator
Surely that would only be allowed
on a show as free-spirited as Ekoda-chan?
[04:04] Narrator
We'll speak to Ekoda-chan's VA
for this week, Koshimizu Ami-san,
[04:07] Narrator
and it's going to be a little
different from usual!
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[04:17] Takahashi 2
Regarding the round-table
discussion with Director Takahashi...
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding Director Takahashi...
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
[04:20] Koshimizu
Right.
[04:21] Takahashi 2
Whenever he's on camera, he tends
to just freeze up completely.
[04:25] Koshimizu
Right.
[04:26] Takahashi 2
And seeing as how that'd
create a whole heap of issues,
[04:29] Takahashi 2
he opted to sit this one out.
[04:31] Takahashi 2
With that in mind,
I, the voice actor, Takahashi Ryosuke,
SIGN Episode 9's Director
Takahashi Takeo
(VA: Takahashi Ryosuke)
[04:36] Takahashi 2
will be performing the role of
Takahashi Takeo for this episode.
[04:41] Koshimizu
Yay!
[04:42] Kataoka
So that's...
[04:42] Koshimizu
Yay!
[04:44] Kataoka
I was wondering why the director looked
so different. That explains everything.
[04:48] Kataoka
Thanks for coming.
[04:48] Koshimizu
Seriously!
[04:49] Koshimizu
It's good to have you here.
[04:51] Kataoka
Our director is an industry veteran,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The director and Koshimizu-san's first meeting...
[04:53] Kataoka
and from where I sit, you're quite
the veteran yourself, Koshimizu-san.
[04:57] Kataoka
Do you remember when you
first encountered each other?
[05:00] Takahashi 2
We first met on a project
I directed called "Spice and Wolf."
[05:06] Koshimizu
That's right.
[05:06] Kataoka
Was "Spice and Wolf" a TV series? Or a movie?
[05:09] Koshimizu
Well...
[05:10] Koshimizu
It was a TV series I was in,
and looking back...
[05:14] Koshimizu
I guess it must've been... about
ten years ago? Maybe a little more?
[05:21] Koshimizu
Yeah.
[05:23] Kataoka
What were your impressions of
Koshimizu-san back then, Director?
[05:25] Takahashi 2
I was impressed with how
well she handled interviews,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN First impressions of Koshimizu-san
[05:29] Takahashi 2
in spite of her youthfulness.
[05:31] Koshimizu
Thank you so much!
[05:33] Koshimizu
So that's what you thought.
[05:35] Kataoka
And what were your impressions
of the director, Koshimizu-san?
[05:37] Koshimizu
Well, just like today,
SIGN First impressions of Director Takahashi
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[05:40] Koshimizu
he seemed so shy, he could have really
used a voice actor to speak for him.
[05:44] Kataoka
Shy...
[05:45] Koshimizu
Whenever the director talked,
it was a bit like... "Yes."
[05:50] Koshimizu
And I'd be like, "Wait, what?"
[05:52] Koshimizu
And he'd just whisper: "Yes, well..."
[05:54] Koshimizu
That's how he is. Shy.
[05:56] Kataoka
A director's job is to helm the project.
SIGN It's okay to be a quiet director?
[06:00] Kataoka
So if he puts everything in his head or
everything he wants to say into the show,
[06:04] Kataoka
then, whether he utters
a word or not doesn't matter,
[06:08] Kataoka
as long as it's all up there
on the screen, I think.
[06:14] Koshimizu
You might have a point there. Right?
SIGN The 3-Minute World
of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[06:24] Kataoka
How did you come up with
the concept for this episode?
[06:24] Censor Bar
Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Behind the concept
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[06:29] Ami
Oh, now that you mention it...
[06:29] Kataoka
I'd love to know.
[06:30] Ami
That's a good question.
[06:32] Takahashi 2
The concept behind the original work,
along with this adaptation,
[06:35] Takahashi 2
was something the producer
outlined beforehand.
[06:38] Takahashi 2
So my focus was on how to best utilize
the short three-minute run-time.
[06:42] Kataoka
You'll notice that his answer just now
[06:44] Kataoka
was about the episode format.
[06:47] Kataoka
I get the feeling that it's his way
of saying, "You know this already!"
[06:52] Koshimizu
The thing that impressed me
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Is three minutes long or short?
[06:54] Koshimizu
is that, compared to the length of a typical
TV episode, three minutes isn't a lot of time.
[07:01] Koshimizu
And there's the fact that
Ekoda-chan is a 4-koma manga,
[07:03] Koshimizu
so adapting one strip into three minutes
would stretch the material a little thin.
[07:07] Koshimizu
So the issue becomes, how do you
expand on what you're working with,
[07:12] Koshimizu
while still keeping it contained
to a single episode?
[07:14] Koshimizu
And when I was doing the voice-over,
I was like, "So that's how you do it!"
[07:18] Koshimizu
That's the impression I got.
[07:19] Koshimizu
Now, out of curiosity...
[07:20] Koshimizu
You're currently doing the director's voice...
[07:23] Takahashi 2
Right.
[07:24] Koshimizu
But what did you think of it, Takahashi-san?
Takahashi the voice actor, I mean.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN What did Takahashi-san (the guy portraying the director) think?
[07:28] Takahashi 2
Let's see, I think, once I saw the
video in the voice-over session...
[07:32] Takahashi 2
The way the cuts were put
together to look so seamless,
[07:38] Takahashi 2
combined with the seriously
fast pace of the story...
[07:43] Takahashi 2
Even thought it was only three
minutes' long, the way it played out...
[07:46] Takahashi 2
I thought it was really bold and cool.
[07:49] Koshimizu
It's really amazing how
it's got these parallel stories.
[07:51] Koshimizu
You see all of them playing out at the same
time. Over the course of three minutes.
[07:53] Censor Bar
Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Creating such a vibrant world in just 3 minutes is an impressive feat
[07:56] Koshimizu
But you see the lives of so many
people playing out at once.
[07:59] Takahashi 2
It's really impressive
in terms of how efficient it is.
[08:03] Kataoka
This story takes place in a call
center for a life insurance firm.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Using a life insurance firm call center as a setting
[08:08] Koshimizu
Right.
[08:09] Kataoka
Choosing that for his setting
is really interesting.
[08:12] Koshimizu
I agree.
[08:13] Kataoka
I mean, the phone operators
who work in a job like that...
[08:16] Kataoka
They end up taking
some pretty heavy calls.
[08:18] Koshimizu
True.
[08:19] Kataoka
They're on the phone with people
[08:23] Kataoka
who are going through very
dramatic moments in their lives.
[08:29] Kataoka
And I imagine they get exposed
to a lot of different reactions,
[08:32] Kataoka
and I found it impressive
how that was represented.
[08:34] Koshimizu
You've got a point.
[08:36] Koshimizu
The way you kinda get a feeling
for the lives of these callers,
[08:42] Koshimizu
as well as the people taking their calls.
[08:45] Koshimizu
The fact that everything plays
out over just three minutes,
[08:49] Koshimizu
but you get bombarded with so much!
[08:51] Koshimizu
Nicely done!
[08:53] Kataoka
I was impressed myself.
[08:54] Koshimizu
Right?
[08:55] Takahashi 2
Right.
[08:57] Kataoka
When you were putting together the episode,
did anything give you trouble?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Any difficulties putting the episode together?
[09:01] Takahashi 2
This episode uses POV perspective,
with no 3D modeling in sight,
[09:06] Takahashi 2
and we see everything through
the eyes of the main character.
[09:10] Takahashi 2
I don't believe this has ever
been done in TV anime,
[09:13] Takahashi 2
and the process of nailing down how
to choreograph it was a great deal of work,
[09:18] Takahashi 2
but I believe we've produced something
hitherto unseen in this medium.
[09:22] Koshimizu
You're right!
[09:23] Kataoka
I thought as much.
[09:24] Koshimizu
Now that you mention it, yeah.
[09:26] Koshimizu
When you put it like that,
[09:29] Koshimizu
it makes me want to tell everyone
to go re-watch the episode somehow.
[09:34] Kataoka
Something you mentioned, Koshimizu-san,
[09:37] Kataoka
is that you took a lot of
your inspiration for lines
[09:42] Kataoka
from the way the perspective
of the camera moved.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The camera perspective made it easier to get into character
[09:46] Kataoka
It's interesting how the set up of
the shots contain that kind of insight.
[09:49] Koshimizu
You've got a point.
[09:51] Koshimizu
I think that might well be the case.
[09:54] Kataoka
So it's only three minutes...
[09:57] Kataoka
Yeah.
[09:58] Kataoka
but the voice-over process
took almost two hours.
[10:01] Koshimizu
Right.
[10:02] Kataoka
And I'm sure you had to do a lot of
thinking about how to nail the character.
[10:07] Kataoka
Looking back now,
SIGN Things emphasized during the voice-over recording
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[10:10] Kataoka
did anything strike you
as being noteworthy,
[10:12] Kataoka
or did you have any moments of inspiration?
[10:14] Koshimizu
Well, earlier, the director
said something about
[10:18] Koshimizu
how it focuses on showing
how many different things
[10:21] Koshimizu
can happen at once in the same space.
[10:24] Koshimizu
And Ekoda-chan is slap bang in the
center of everything that's going on.
[10:30] Koshimizu
So there's this confined space,
and here's Ekoda-chan,
SIGN Building an environment around Ekoda-chan
[10:33] Koshimizu
and in her orbit is all this
stuff that's happening.
[10:36] Koshimizu
And in order to highlight that
she's at the center of it all,
[10:41] Koshimizu
for her internal monologue, and for her
interactions with other characters, too,
[10:46] Koshimizu
I wanted to talk with a level of intimacy
[10:50] Koshimizu
that would encourage the audience
to see through her eyes.
[10:58] Koshimizu
While everyone else is
yammering on and making a fuss,
[11:02] Koshimizu
there's that one scene where
she just stares out the window...
[11:07] Koshimizu
I thought that was incredibly realistic.
[11:10] Koshimizu
I think that, in life, you're
sometimes in conversations
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The realism of Ekoda-chan
[11:13] Koshimizu
where you're just going, "Yeah, you're right."
[11:16] Koshimizu
Like, if there's three of you talking,
[11:18] Koshimizu
and your whole contribution is,
"Mmhm. Mmhm. Mmhm."
[11:21] Koshimizu
And then, you get distracted,
or start thinking about something else...
[11:25] Koshimizu
I think everyone has moments like that.
[11:27] Koshimizu
The way that was depicted...
[11:30] Koshimizu
I really wanted to get across how you feel
inside when you have those moments.
[11:41] Kataoka
I would think that's really hard to do, as well.
[11:44] Kataoka
I asked the director if he wanted
to make a quiet episode or a busy one.
[11:50] Kataoka
And he said he wanted a busy one.
[11:52] Kataoka
So everyone except Ekoda-chan
[11:54] Kataoka
is making a lot of noise.
[11:55] Koshimizu
Right.
[11:56] Kataoka
And amidst that cacophony,
she peers out the window...
[12:00] Koshimizu
Right! Exactly!
[12:02] Koshimizu
But y'know, the way things get more
and more chaotic in the second half,
[12:07] Koshimizu
that was something I thought was really fun.
[12:10] Koshimizu
And cramming so many points
of interest into just three minutes
[12:19] Koshimizu
wasn't just entertaining;
it was really amazing, too.
[12:22] Kataoka
Right.
[12:23] Kataoka
There's the part where she looks
out the window and it's dusk,
[12:26] Kataoka
and then later, a thunderstorm rolls in.
[12:28] Kataoka
You generally don't associate
those two things with each other.
[12:33] Kataoka
So putting them back to back is
something of a surprise to the viewer...
[12:37] Kataoka
Coupled with the way the bit
with the sunset helps to break up
[12:41] Kataoka
the noise of the episode, and keeps it
from turning into pure noise.
[12:44] Kataoka
And with Ekoda-chan's internal
monologue in the mix, too.
[12:47] Koshimizu
It helps modulate the tempo.
[12:50] Kataoka
I would've thought having that variation
would make the vocal performance harder.
[12:54] Koshimizu
Oh, no, not at all!
[12:55] Koshimizu
Having to mix it up just adds to the fun.
[12:56] Kataoka
Ah, I see.
[12:58] Koshimizu
That's what I think.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 9's Director
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Episode 9's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshimizu Ami
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:06] Narrator
The first half highlighted the attention
to detail shown by Director Takahashi Takeo,
[13:10] Narrator
along with his innocent personality.
[13:13] Narrator
In the second half, we're going to hear
Koshimizu Ami-san's candid opinions,
[13:16] Narrator
and philosophy on life.
[13:19] Narrator
Watch this and you too can
become like Ekoda-chan! Maybe.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Koshimizu Ami-san's Smorgasbord
of Behind-the-Scenes Stories
[13:25] Kataoka
Did you have any first impressions
when the script dropped in your lap?
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[13:29] Koshimizu
Good question! Well...
[13:31] Koshimizu
When you look at a script,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN First impressions when reading the script
[13:33] Koshimizu
there's the section that describes
what's going on in the scene,
[13:39] Koshimizu
and below that, it has who's
speaking and their lines.
[13:43] Koshimizu
That's how voice-over
scripts are structured.
[13:45] Koshimizu
So I'm scanning it, reading about the
scenes, and looking over the lines,
[13:50] Koshimizu
and I'm like, "This is a lot!"
[13:53] Koshimizu
That was my first impression, I'd say.
[13:57] Koshimizu
You can easily tell when
looking at a script
[14:01] Koshimizu
whether the story's going
to unfold at an even pace,
[14:04] Koshimizu
or go at breakneck speed
with a buttload of action.
[14:07] Koshimizu
To make it easier to picture,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The story's atmosphere being apparent in the script
[14:09] Koshimizu
imagine you've got the scene here,
and the spoken lines underneath.
[14:14] Koshimizu
And then, down here, you've
also got overlapping dialogue,
[14:18] Koshimizu
so it's a lot going on all at once.
[14:19] Koshimizu
So as I'm reading it, my reaction is, "What's
the recording going to be like tomorrow?"
[14:24] Koshimizu
"Oh, boy!" Basically.
[14:26] Kataoka
So, as you're reading,
[14:28] Kataoka
I imagine you're formulating your
approach to voicing her in your head, yes?
[14:31] Kataoka
Did any of those ideas change when you
got in the studio and were given direction?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Anything you noticed about the direction you received?
[14:37] Koshimizu
I think that can be said
of any character, to be honest,
[14:41] Koshimizu
because voice actors read the script
themselves and have their own take on them,
[14:45] Koshimizu
and well, their ideas aren't exactly wrong,
[14:49] Koshimizu
but additional takes are done to explore
the dialogue from a whole range of angles,
[14:55] Koshimizu
and I thought there was
a lot of that in this recording,
[14:58] Koshimizu
exploring all the different possibilities.
[15:03] Kataoka
Did you find any of Ekoda-chan's
lines particularly memorable?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Any memorable lines?
[15:09] Koshimizu
That's a good question!
[15:11] Koshimizu
Something I think most
women might tune in on,
[15:16] Koshimizu
is how, at the very end,
she's talking to herself,
[15:18] Koshimizu
and she lets slip that she wants to run away,
[15:21] Koshimizu
because of the crazy
situation she finds herself in,
[15:25] Koshimizu
but she's just not the kind
of person who does that.
[15:28] ---
My reaction to that was: "I feel you."
[15:31] Kataoka
You could relate to that?
[15:32] Koshimizu
I totally got that part.
[15:34] Koshimizu
That feeling of wanting to
join in with the mass hysteria,
[15:37] Koshimizu
but you just can't.
[15:39] Koshimizu
Something about that
really resonated with me.
[15:44] Koshimizu
It left a deep impression.
[15:46] Kataoka
Have you been in a lot of situations
where you end up thinking that?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Moments where she's felt like that
[15:50] Koshimizu
Where I want to quit,
but can't bring myself to?
[15:53] Kataoka
Yeah.
[15:54] Koshimizu
Well, I think that, in moments like that,
[15:57] Koshimizu
you always tend to get
further by toughing it out.
[16:03] Koshimizu
After thirty-something years on Earth,
I think that's something I've figured out.
[16:08] Koshimizu
Whenever I stick it out,
instead of just giving in,
[16:13] Koshimizu
I always end up with
something to show for it,
[16:17] Koshimizu
whether it's experience gained,
or something I've learned.
[16:20] Koshimizu
So I feel like the right move is
to hang in there and not give up.
[16:25] Kataoka
What do you think about
Ekoda-chan's way of life?
[16:29] Koshimizu
That's a tough one!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding Ekoda-chan's way of life
[16:31] Koshimizu
There's so much to her...
[16:34] Koshimizu
Like, how she's an expert at saying
one thing and thinking another,
[16:37] Koshimizu
and how you can't say she lives
in a totally selfish way...
[16:41] Koshimizu
But in spite of that, she's
always loyal to her desires.
[16:45] Koshimizu
She's the kind of character
that I find pretty remarkable,
[16:49] Koshimizu
because her life's so different from mine.
[16:54] Kataoka
You made a good point there.
[16:57] Kataoka
About how she's totally
honest about what she wants.
[16:59] Koshimizu
Yeah, exactly!
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The way Ekoda-chan is true to her desires
[17:01] Koshimizu
I think it's impressive.
[17:02] Kataoka
It's remarkable, isn't it?
[17:03] Koshimizu
I think that sort of thing
requires a lot of courage.
[17:07] Koshimizu
So it's really interesting
to see someone live like that.
[17:11] Kataoka
Yeah.
SIGN Q&A with
Director Takahashi
[17:17] Kataoka
As fun as having our
own little conversation is,
SIGN Takahashi Takeo x Koshimizu Ami
[17:19] Kataoka
there are some questions
only the director can answer.
[17:22] Kataoka
The adaption of "Rinshi!!
Ekoda-chan" we're doing here
[17:25] Kataoka
involves 12 directors each doing
one three-minute episode.
[17:30] Koshimizu
That's remarkable.
[17:31] Kataoka
Doing a show where you're only making one out
of 12 episodes is an odd project to take on,
[17:38] Kataoka
so I'm curious as to what made
you agree to be a part of this.
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Your reasons for working on this project
[17:44] Koshimizu
True. I was just thinking how,
in terms of flavor,
[17:49] Koshimizu
Ekoda-chan is a bit different
from your previous works.
[17:53] Koshimizu
So I'm curious, too!
[17:55] Koshimizu
Why'd you agree to do it?
[17:57] Takahashi 2
I received the offer from a studio
[17:59] Takahashi 2
I've had the pleasure of working with
several times before, Creators in Pack,
[18:05] Takahashi 2
and after hearing about the details
of the project, I agreed to work on it.
[18:08] Koshimizu
I see!
[18:10] Kataoka
Just looking at the footage is enough
to tell you it turned out great.
[18:13] Kataoka
The way the storyboards were
adapted was done very faithfully,
[18:18] Kataoka
which made me think you must
have a great relationship
[18:21] Kataoka
with the people at Creators in Pack.
[18:23] Kataoka
I'm really curious about
what your thoughts were,
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN Regarding character design
[18:28] Kataoka
or what you wanted to achieve
with the character designs.
[18:33] Takahashi 2
I asked Ijuin-san,
who did the character designs
[18:35] Takahashi 2
for an anime I worked on in
2017, "Citrus," to handle that.
[18:40] Takahashi 2
I received a request
from the production side
[18:45] Takahashi 2
for elements of sexuality
to be included in the episode,
[18:48] Takahashi 2
so that was the main theme
going into the design.
[18:51] Takahashi 2
I believe the character designs captured
the essence of the source material,
[18:56] Takahashi 2
while also fulfilling
the producer's requests.
[18:58] Koshimizu
That's a good point.
[18:59] Koshimizu
The story Ekoda-chan's in this time,
compared to ones she's usually in...
[19:03] Koshimizu
She's wearing clothes, for a start!
[19:04] Kataoka
Yeah, she is.
[19:07] Koshi
So it becomes a question of "How else
do you go about injecting sexiness into it?"
[19:12] Kataoka
The actual story doesn't
seem all that sexual at first.
[19:15] Koshimizu
'Cause she's clothed!
[19:16] Kataoka
Exactly.
[19:17] Kataoka
So I think for Takahashi-san to respond
to that request with this kind of episode,
[19:25] Kataoka
I think it gives us the sense that
his concept of sex appeal is sort of...
[19:30] Kataoka
...subtle.
[19:31] Koshimizu
I get that feeling, too.
[19:32] Koshimizu
Like, it's really pure in nature.
[19:32] Kataoka
Right, right.
[19:34] Koshimizu
Which I guess is why...
[19:35] Kataoka
Right.
[19:36] Koshimizu
We have a stand-in.
[19:38] Koshimizu
A stand-in for the director.
[19:41] Kataoka
What are your thoughts
on love and marriage?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The director's thoughts on love and marriage
[19:43] Takahashi
In terms of cost-effectiveness,
[19:46] Takahashi
the price Ekoda-chan pays for her lifestyle
might seem higher than its worth.
[19:49] Takahashi
Personally, I think a life focused
on things like romance and marriage
[19:53] Takahashi
without worrying about
finances would be wonderful.
[19:56] Takahashi
Although, in the case of Ekoda-chan,
[19:57] Takahashi
her behavior can seem a bit risky at times.
[20:03] Koshimizu
That's true, in a way. Lately, it seems like...
[20:08] Koshimizu
attitudes on marriage
among the younger generation
[20:13] Koshimizu
seem to be changing quite a bit.
[20:17] Kataoka
So, Director, if you were Ekoda-chan...
SIGN If you were Ekoda-chan...
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
[20:23] Kataoka
What kind of life would you lead?
[20:24] Koshimizu
A question with gender-swapping
as the premise!
[20:28] Takahashi 2
I've never lived in Ekoda before,
[20:31] Takahashi 2
so I'd love to take a stroll
around and see what it's like.
[20:33] Koshimizu
What the heck?!
[20:33] Kataoka
That answer...
[20:36] Koshimizu
He dodged it well.
[20:37] Kataoka
Indeed he did.
[20:38] Kataoka
What would you like to do if you
were Ekoda-chan, Koshimizu-san?
SIGN If Koshimizu-san was Ekoda-chan...
[20:42] Koshimizu
We're just so different, both in
terms of our lives and our careers...
[20:47] Koshimizu
There's so much that's distinct...
[20:49] Koshimizu
I kinda think I'd like to just
see what her life is like, as-is.
[20:54] Kataoka
Good point.
[20:56] Koshimizu
What is that even like?
[20:57] Koshimizu
This episode actually gave me a glimpse into
what it might be like, in some small way.
[21:03] Koshimizu
Being able to see the world, and the
people in it, through Ekoda-chan's eyes...
[21:08] Koshimizu
What does she think?
[21:10] Koshimizu
I'd love a peek.
[21:12] Kataoka
It really is fascinating.
[21:13] Kataoka
Granted, you got a condensed
taste of it for three minutes.
[21:17] Koshimizu
Very condensed!
[21:19] Koshimizu
But it's true, we did.
[21:22] Kataoka
As we wrap up, I'd like to ask
both of you one last thing.
[21:27] Kataoka
What do you think is
the appeal of Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Takahashi
Takeo
SIGN The appeal of Ekoda-chan
[21:30] Koshimizu
What do you think?
[21:31] Takahashi 2
My wife is a fan of Ekoda-chan.
[21:34] Koshimizu
Right.
[21:34] Takahashi
But, in my opinion, my wife and
Ekoda-chan are very different.
[21:39] Takahashi
But for my wife, she's able to relate
to a lot of the material in the manga,
[21:43] Takahashi
which makes me think that many
of the readers who enjoy it
[21:46] Takahashi
must feel the same way.
[21:47] Koshimizu
Oh, I really feel you on that one.
[21:51] Koshimizu
I think that, since there's such
a variety of different scenes,
[21:57] Koshimizu
there's at least one thing
that everyone can relate to,
[22:02] Koshimizu
and that's the charm of Ekoda-chan.
[22:08] Narrator
That's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:11] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:15] Narrator
we'll go behind the scenes on the quirky
tenth episode of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan."
SIGN Director
[22:19] Narrator
What secrets will the Director and
Ekoda-chan reveal about production?
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:24] Narrator
Looks like next week will be
another must-see episode!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:28] Narrator
Look forward to it!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Glasses
SIGN Face
SIGN Clothes
SIGN Shading
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
E10
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[00:01] Ekoda
Good evening. Ekoda-chan here.
[00:03] Ekoda
Today, we're gonna switch things up
and show you Ekoda-chan as envisioned
[00:07] Ekoda
by the artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san.
[00:09] Ekoda
We've gone for a Supermarionation
feel, so bear that in mind.
[00:13] Ekoda
Anyone who wants to watch some normal anime,
now's your chance to change the channel.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Okay, let's get this show on the road!
SIGN Rinshi!!
[00:22] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
[00:30] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
[00:38] Singing
♫ More considerate than
you'd think at first glance ♫
[00:44] Singing
♫ ...which gets taken advantage of ♫
[00:48] Singing
♫ Not as strong as she seems ♫
[00:52] Singing
♫ A hot topic! ♫
[00:56] Singing
♫ I find the tiniest bit of happiness ♫
[01:01] Singing
♫ ...and don't even realize! ♫
[01:04] Singing
♫ As long as loneliness exists in this world ♫
[01:08] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists within my heart ♫
[01:17] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in your heart... ♫
[01:31] Singing
♫ Shine on, Ekoda! ♫
[01:32] Singing
♫ You're the Japanese Marilyn Monroe! ♫
[01:35] Singing
♫ Shine on, Ekoda! ♫
[01:37] Singing
♫ You're a modern-day samurai general! ♫
[01:40] Singing
♫ Usually naked! ♫
[01:41] Singing
♫ Usually naked! ♫
[01:42] Singing
♫ Usually naked! ♫
[01:49] Singing
Gotta keep it real!
[01:51] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
[01:53] Singing
You wanna go to Hawaii?
[01:54] Singing
You bet I do!
[01:57] ---
I don't care!
[01:58] ---
I'm jumping in the ocean!
[01:59] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts ♫
[02:01] Singing
So slippery! Gonna crash!
[02:03] ---
Welcome to midriff town!
[02:06] Singing
High school!
[02:07] ---
Cool!
[02:08] Singing
♫ Such a people-pleaser ♫
[02:14] Singing
♫ ...which gets taken advantage of! ♫
[02:17] Singing
♫ No peculiar sexual fetishes ♫
[02:22] Singing
♫ Not that anyone believes me! ♫
[02:25] Singing
♫ Once I get sick of being trapped in a cycle ♫
[02:30] Singing
♫ I never go back! ♫
[02:33] Singing
♫ As long as men exist in this world ♫
[02:37] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists within all our hearts! ♫
[02:46] Singing
♫ Ekoda exists in all our hearts! ♫
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:51] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:53] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 10: Nagahama Hiroshi,
SIGN Director
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Kobayashi Ai.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Kobayashi Ai
SIGN And not only that, but this time,
SIGN Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Kobayashi Ai
SIGN Episode 10's Director
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN we have modern artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san, joining in the fun!
SIGN Surprising secrets about the production will be revealed!
[04:09] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
SIGN Project/Production
Manager
Kataoka Yoshiro
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
[04:19] Kataoka
Let's start with introductions.
[04:20] Kataoka
If you could go first, Kobayashi-san.
[04:22] Ai
Right.
[04:23] Ai
I played Ekoda-chan.
My name is Kobayashi Ai.
SIGN Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
Kobayashi Ai
[04:27] Ai
I've been a fan of Ekoda-chan ever
since the manga first went on sale,
[04:31] Ai
so I'm tickled pink to be part of this.
[04:33] Ai
And that's all.
[04:34] Kataoka
And you, Nagahama-san...
[04:35] Naga
Well, I'm meant to be the director,
SIGN Episode 10's Director
Nagahama Hiroshi
[04:38] Naga
so I suppose you can say that's
what I am. I'm Nagahama Hiroshi.
[04:41] Naga
Ekoda-chan has been adapted
a few times in the past,
[04:44] Naga
so I wanted to try something
a little different,
[04:50] Naga
and to achieve that,
I approached this individual.
[04:53] Ai
Ta-da!
[04:54] Naga
Modern artist, Sasaoka Yuriko-san.
[04:57] Naga
Your turn, Sasaoka-san.
SIGN Modern Artist
Sasaoka Yuriko
[04:57] Naga
Right.
[04:58] Sasa
I'm Sasaoka Yuriko, a modern artist.
[05:01] Sasa
The Ekoda-chan manga was like
a bible to me when I was a student,
[05:08] Sasa
so I'm also tickled pink.
[05:09] Ai
Right?
[05:11] Ai
This setup makes me wonder
what you actually did, Director.
[05:15] Naga
Well, leaving that aside...
For now, at least.
[05:17] Naga
We can come back to that later.
[05:19] Ai
I see.
SIGN Thoughts on today's recording
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
[05:21] Naga
It was fun.
[05:22] Kataoka
Fun?
[05:22] Naga
I'd say that describes it pretty well.
[05:26] Naga
Nothing beats a job
where everyone's laughing
[05:29] Naga
about how much fun it was
to work on the project together.
[05:32] Ai
It wasn't really your typical
voice-over session, was it?
SIGN Kobayashi-san struggled with recording the song?!
[05:36] Ai
More like... a recording session?
[05:38] Naga
A recording session.
[05:38] Ai
Where you record songs.
[05:40] Ai
I have to admit, I was sweating bullets.
[05:43] Ai
It feels like my little intro before
the song is a distant memory now.
[05:48] Ai
I don't even remember doing it.
[05:49] Naga
Really?
[05:50] Naga
But the intro was done after the singing.
[05:52] Ai
It was, but because of the singing...
[05:55] Ai
I'd worked my vocal chords a little too hard.
[05:59] Ai
I even got choked up a few times.
[06:01] Ai
So... the order of things was kinda backwards.
[06:06] Naga
It turned out better than I was expecting.
[06:08] Ai
Oh, my.
[06:10] Naga
You were even truer to Ekoda-chan
[06:11] Ai
This is embarrassing...
[06:11] Naga
than I could've hoped for.
[06:14] Naga
Even the bits that were flubbed,
[06:15] Naga
or the bits that didn't
sound the greatest vocally...
[06:18] Naga
They seemed totally in character.
[06:20] Naga
She did an amazing job. Don't you think?
[06:23] Sasa
She really did. For me,
that just was Ekoda-chan's voice.
[06:29] Sasa
Because of that passion,
and that throaty sexiness.
[06:34] Sasa
It's just how I imagined her sounding.
[06:36] Ai
I-I-I-I'm honored.
[06:39] Ai
Well, because I was so totally
focused on nailing the singing,
[06:43] Ai
not much else was
going through my head.
[06:45] Naga
I see. I see.
[06:48] Ai
I felt totally exposed.
[06:52] Naga
That makes sense. Just like Ekoda-chan.
[06:53] Ai
It felt less like a job
[06:55] Ai
and more like everyone was dogpiling me.
[06:58] Sasa
And yanking you about?
[06:58] Ai
Pulling me around, yeah.
[07:00] Naga
What a situation to be in.
[07:01] Ai
I was freaking out.
[07:03] Ai
It was nerve-wracking.
[07:04] Sasa
You said it was a rare sight,
seeing Ai-chan so worried.
[07:07] Naga
It was, indeed.
[07:09] Naga
You looked like a soccer player.
[07:11] Naga
The way you were just bouncing around.
[07:14] Naga
Someone'd say: "We're ready
for the next take, Ai-chan,"
[07:17] Naga
and you reply: "Gonna nail it."
[07:18] Naga
We were all confused!
"What's she going to nail?"
[07:22] Ai
Well, I meant hitting all the notes.
[07:24] Ai
Oh, the rhythm.
[07:24] Ai
And getting the rhythm right.
[07:26] Ai
It was a lot of fun, though. Even if
I was in a world of despair the entire time.
[07:30] Naga
A world of despair!
[07:30] Ai
I seriously was.
SIGN Sasaoka-san's first time seeing anime being made
[07:33] Sasa
It was my first time seeing for myself
[07:35] Sasa
just how many people help
put together a project like this.
[07:41] Sasa
It was kind of awe-inspiring.
[07:46] Naga
You basically directed the song
by yourself, Sasaoka-san.
[07:49] Naga
Asking for stronger takes.
That sort of thing.
[07:53] Naga
So this was a piece of cake for me.
[07:56] Naga
A total breeze.
[07:56] Ai
You had a constant grin.
[07:58] Sasa
I mostly just imitate what I've seen,
[07:59] Sasa
but when I work on a film,
I like to do the music myself.
[08:04] Sasa
I'm the kind of person who isn't
satisfied unless I'm involved
[08:06] Sasa
in every part of the process.
[08:08] Ai
Wow.
[08:09] Ai
It would've been nice
if you could've sung, too.
[08:11] Sasa
Oh, no, I can't sing.
[08:13] Naga
She can, really.
[08:15] Naga
But if she'd done the singing, as well,
[08:18] Naga
it would've put a limit on how much
she could experience with this project.
[08:22] Naga
Sasaoka-san doesn't usually do
this kind of collaborative work.
[08:26] Naga
She's usually a one-woman show.
[08:29] Naga
So I wanted her to find out what it was
like to work with others on a project.
[08:33] Naga
And I hoped that she would
end up getting something out of it.
[08:38] Naga
Just doing what you always do...
[08:40] Naga
wouldn't have been as much fun, would it?
[08:41] Sasa
You're right.
SIGN Behind the scenes of
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
Episode 10
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
[08:48] Naga
This is a very interesting manga.
SIGN Director Nagahama's proposal for the anime
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
[08:51] Naga
And I was sure it'd make
for an interesting anime.
[08:53] ---
That's what I thought, anyway.
[08:55] Naga
So I asked Kataoka-san about
maybe doing an anime adaptation...
[09:02] Naga
How long ago was that?
[09:04] Kataoka
13 years ago.
[09:05] Naga
That was 13 years ago!
[09:07] Naga
The fact he remembered that discussion,
[09:10] Naga
and actually made it happen
after all this time amazes me.
[09:13] Kataoka
I'm really grateful to Nagahama-san
for making me aware of it.
[09:17] Naga
Well, that's kind of you to say.
[09:18] Naga
But it's really weirding me out,
Kataoka-san being so deferential to me.
SIGN Not an adaptation, but a work born out of "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[09:23] Naga
The idea was to be fully aware that this is
something born out of the Ekoda-chan manga.
[09:29] Naga
Strictly speaking, this isn't
an adaptation of the manga.
[09:32] Naga
It's more something that was
made with the manga in mind.
[09:37] Naga
Because of that, both in the
illustration I produced for it,
[09:40] Naga
and in the animation for the intro,
[09:44] Naga
she's got blue skin.
[09:46] Naga
That's one of Ekoda-chan's alter
egos that appears in Volume 2.
[09:50] Naga
These alter egos are
everywhere in this episode.
[09:52] Naga
And that's part of the theme of this episode.
[09:57] Naga
We're all her alter-egos.
[10:00] Naga
And although Ekoda-chan
would hate the comparison,
[10:07] Naga
that sentiment shows that we
all have something in common.
[10:12] Naga
And it creates the kind of animosity
that comes from being alike.
[10:19] Naga
That was part of the reason why
I asked Sasaoka-san to get involved.
[10:23] Naga
I wanted something that
couldn't be accomplished
[10:26] Naga
by someone just drawing
an animated version of the manga.
[10:30] Naga
And I thought the medium she
works in would be just the ticket.
[10:36] Naga
My initial concept was producing something
that looked like "Thunderbirds."
SIGN Director Nagahama's plan
[10:42] Kataoka
You did, didn't you?
[10:43] Naga
Yeah. I wanted it to look like "Thunderbirds,"
but sound like "La La Land."
SIGN Going to "La La Land" with "Thunderbirds"
[10:49] Naga
But then, I had to actually
figure out how to do that.
[10:55] Naga
There's this live-action
director called Motoi-san,
[10:59] Naga
and I asked her: "Do you know anyone who
works with Thunderbirds-style marionettes?"
[11:07] Naga
So it was Motoi-san who turned
me on to Sasaoka-san's work.
SIGN Director Nagahama meets Sasaoka-san
[11:12] Naga
Anyway, I went to see her
while she was working,
[11:16] Naga
and it was just like
watching Ekoda-chan.
[11:18] Naga
She was in this worn-out sweatshirt,
[11:20] Ai
Was she naked?
[11:20] Naga
and worn-out jeans... Yeah.
[11:22] Naga
She wasn't naked! There was no nudity!
[11:23] Naga
That's not what I meant!
[11:24] Ai
I was getting excited for a second!
[11:25] Naga
You just had to go there!
[11:28] Naga
I thought she was really interesting.
[11:31] Naga
And after she showed me some of her
work, I thought: "It has to be her."
[11:34] Naga
If this woman takes on the project,
she'll look deep into Ekoda-chan's soul.
[11:42] Naga
And I thought I'd get the "Thunderbirds"
meets "La La Land" episode I was after.
[11:47] Sasa
Was it like that, though?
[11:48] Naga
In regard to the run-time...
SIGN Struggles with the three-minute run-time
[11:51] Naga
I think animation is defined by the
built-in limits of a specified run-time.
[11:56] Naga
Conversely, if you just sorta said:
"Take all the time you want,"
[11:59] Naga
or, "You can make it as long as you like,"
[12:03] Naga
it would basically change the medium.
[12:07] Naga
I wanted to show something quintessentially
Ekoda-chan in the time allotted.
[12:10] Naga
I imagine all the other directors
[12:12] Naga
felt the same way.
[12:12] Kataoka
They did.
[12:13] Naga
And that made it easy
to get motivated for this.
SIGN Getting fired up for a three-minute show
[12:15] Naga
To make something that'd
leave people wanting more.
[12:21] Naga
Where they react with:
"What? It's only three minutes?!"
[12:24] Naga
You have to figure out how to
get people to feel that way,
[12:28] Naga
and that's a fun problem to solve.
[12:32] Naga
So I wanted Sasaoka-san to have
the majority of the time to herself,
[12:38] Naga
and we just handled the introduction.
[12:43] Naga
That intro set things up for
Sasaoka-san's part of the episode,
[12:48] Naga
and made it seem like some
kind of programming error.
[12:53] Ai
But it was premeditated.
[12:54] Naga
It absolutely was.
[12:56] Ai
I mean, even here, in this segment,
SIGN A truly unique episode
[12:58] Ai
where it's usually just the director and
Ekoda-chan's VA sitting down for a chat,
[13:02] Ai
we're so fancy, we got a third person in!
[13:04] Ai
There are literally two people
here you could call the director.
[13:08] Ai
I think this episode crams
a lot more in than usual.
[13:13] Kataoka
You've got a point.
[13:14] Kataoka
Usually, we just have the two
who made the episode happen.
[13:17] Kataoka
But this time, two people
came up with the core concept.
[13:20] Naga
That's a good point.
[13:22] Kataoka
For this particular three-minute episode.
[13:25] Naga
And, at first, I was kinda worried
that I wasn't being directorial enough.
[13:29] Naga
But that just added to the entertainment.
[13:31] Kataoka
From what I've heard today,
I do think you did the job of a director.
[13:33] Naga
Really?
[13:35] Naga
Well, that's good, then.
[13:36] Ai
Yeah, it is.
[13:38] Naga
As long as it all worked out.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
[13:44] Narrator
In the first half, they discussed
difficulties in the recording,
SIGN Episode 10's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Kobayashi Ai
SIGN Episode 10's Director
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[13:48] Narrator
and the director's approach to the episode.
[13:51] Narrator
In the second half, we'll examine their
lives through the lens of Ekoda-chan.
[13:56] Narrator
And what production materials will
Sasaoka-san unveil that you can only see here?
SIGN The Director x VA
& Ekoda-chan
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
SIGN Could you relate to Ekoda-chan?
SIGN Nagahama
Hiroshi
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi x Kobayashi Ai
[14:06] Naga
Well?
[14:07] Ai
I have nothing but sympathy for her!
[14:09] Naga
I figured you might!
[14:11] Ai
Sympathy, and admiration.
[14:14] Ai
She goes through a lot,
[14:16] Ai
and my reaction to those moments
would be more emotional,
[14:19] Ai
but she's already laughed
it off by the next panel.
[14:23] Ai
And that's something I really admire.
[14:27] Ai
I get what she's going through.
I see myself in these situations.
[14:31] Ai
Not necessarily with this episode,
but I genuinely feel that way.
[14:36] Ai
When I'm reading Ekoda-chan, I'm always
going, "I know, right? I know, right?"
[14:41] Ai
There was one lyric in the
song that really stood out...
[14:46] Ai
I didn't sing that line, but the part where
she's called a modern-day samurai general...
[14:51] Ai
That was really funny.
SIGN The appeal of Ekoda-chan
[14:54] Sasa
I think it's a manga where
you can recognize feelings
[14:57] Sasa
you don't necessarily
have the words for yet.
[15:01] Sasa
And seeing it on the page
allows you to sympathize,
[15:04] Sasa
and helps you realize there are
others who feel the same way.
[15:07] Sasa
Something about that
is really reassuring.
[15:10] Sasa
And as you read through, you start
to see yourself reflected in Ekoda-chan.
[15:17] Sasa
Sort of like with Buddhist statues.
[15:19] Naga
I see!
[15:19] Sasa
For some reason, in Volume 1,
[15:21] Sasa
she looks kind of intense and scary,
[15:25] Sasa
but as it goes along, she softens,
and you start to see her cute side.
[15:29] Sasa
Like when she gets
attached to some mildew.
[15:31] Naga
That's a good example.
[15:32] Sasa
I think she's really great.
[15:35] Naga
I don't know if I could honestly say
I fully understand it, since I'm a man,
[15:41] Naga
but it's like... I want to understand,
[15:46] Naga
and there are parts I definitely do get.
[15:48] Naga
Parts that any man should be able to get.
[15:52] Naga
I think it's a pretty versatile
manga, in that sense.
[15:54] Naga
It doesn't pigeonhole itself
by only being aimed at women.
[15:59] Ai
Friend M is pretty cool.
Like, you think, "I want a friend like that."
SIGN The existence of Friend M
[16:03] Ai
The way their relationship is...
I think it's really appealing.
[16:08] Ai
They're not too close; they have
just the right amount of distance.
[16:13] Ai
That's something I'm envious of...
[16:15] Ai
and it makes me wish
I had a friend like that.
[16:18] Naga
She was in this episode.
[16:21] Ai
That's right.
[16:22] Naga
Voiced by...
[16:24] Ai
A classmate of mine.
[16:27] Naga
Wait, really?
[16:29] Ai
Well, you asked me if I had anyone in mind,
[16:32] Ai
so I ended up casting her!
[16:35] Naga
Well, Friend M is Ekoda-chan's friend,
[16:38] Naga
so it made sense for Ai-chan to pick
the person she wanted to play her.
[16:44] Naga
And that person was Komatsu-san.
[16:46] Naga
Well...
SIGN How the Director and Kobayashi-san met
[16:49] Naga
Where we met?
[16:51] Ai
"Mushishi"?
[16:52] Naga
"Mushishi," yes.
[16:52] Ai
The audition for "Mushishi."
[16:54] Naga
Right, it was at the "Mushishi" auditions,
[16:56] Naga
for the role of Tanyuu,
a very important character.
[17:00] Naga
And then, after that...
[17:03] Naga
She just sorta stuck in my memory,
[17:07] Naga
and when we had to cast a princess
for a Crayon Shin-chan movie,
[17:11] Naga
I brought up the name Kobayashi Ai.
[17:15] Naga
And since then...
[17:16] Ai
Since then...
[17:17] Naga
It's been ten...
[17:18] Ai
Ten...
[17:20] Both
...years.
[17:23] Naga
Sure has.
[17:24] Naga
My impression at the time... hm...
SIGN First impressions of Kobayashi-san
[17:30] ---
My immediate impression was
that she had to be Tanyuu.
[17:37] Naga
But then...
[17:39] Naga
You don't like the "but."
[17:40] Ai
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
[17:41] Naga
But when I listened back over the tapes,
[17:42] Ai
You'll ruin my career!
[17:43] Naga
I was like, "Wait, why did I pick Ai-chan again?"
[17:47] Naga
But the thing is...
[17:49] Ai
I didn't do a great job.
[17:51] Naga
Right, in the audition.
When auditioning for the part.
[17:53] Naga
But in the actual voice-over
sessions, she was spectacular.
[17:58] Naga
You were great, really.
[18:00] Naga
So I was kinda impressed with
myself for seeing her potential.
SIGN Kobayashi-san's first impression of Director Nagahama
[18:06] Ai
My impression of you is mostly from when
we were traveling around for "Mushishi."
[18:13] Ai
I thought you were a funny guy.
[18:17] Ai
We ended up going all over Japan
and spending some time together,
[18:22] Ai
and ever since, I've thought
of him as a goofball.
[18:27] Ai
But once you get past that side of him,
you see the incredible work he does.
[18:32] Ai
So there's both admiration
and a sense of familiarity.
[18:36] Ai
We're good friends in a sense.
[18:40] Kataoka
I'm actually really curious
SIGN The use of marionettes
[18:42] Kataoka
as to how you actually use the marionettes.
[18:42] Ai
Oh, I am, too.
[18:44] Sasa
Right. Well, I have a marionette right here.
[18:50] Sasa
And I control the marionette just like this,
[18:56] Sasa
and later, I paste my face onto it here,
where a face would usually be.
[19:01] Sasa
And that then becomes Ekoda-chan.
[19:04] Sasa
You generally don't see this kind
of elaborate movement in anime,
[19:08] Sasa
and even Pixar doesn't try to do it,
[19:11] Sasa
so I try to make sure I get in as much intricate,
[19:13] Naga
Wow!
[19:14] Sasa
articulated movement as I can when I film.
[19:18] Naga
Impressive.
[19:19] Sasa
Including me, there are three
people holding the puppets,
[19:23] Sasa
and moving them in time with the music.
[19:25] Sasa
And when I'm making a film, um...
[19:29] Sasa
I like to do long, single takes with no cuts,
[19:34] Sasa
so any slight mistakes or habits
end up feeling emphasized.
[19:41] Sasa
Which makes for a thrilling
experience filming it.
[19:44] Sasa
I started using this method because
I wanted to find a middle ground
[19:49] Sasa
between a puppet show and a movie.
[19:52] Naga
And this is Ekoda?
[19:53] Sasa
Yup, it's her.
[19:56] Sasa
Before I get to work, I find I have trouble
getting started if I haven't drawn something.
SIGN Illustrations drawn before filming
[20:03] Sasa
So I draw the character first
to help place them in my mind,
[20:09] Sasa
in terms of what kind
of person Ekoda-chan is,
[20:12] Sasa
and what kind of things influence her,
[20:17] Sasa
and then, until I actually
portray them, I have these.
[20:21] Sasa
Done in pastels.
[20:22] Naga
That's impressive. In pastels, huh?
[20:24] Sasa
Yeah, I used pastels.
[20:26] Sasa
Here's Big Sis. I tried to get
across how crazy she is.
[20:31] Sasa
Here we go. I wanted to really
emphasize the faces of Ekoda-chan.
[20:35] Sasa
So I basically discarded the bodies.
[20:39] Ai
That's an amazing choice.
[20:41] Ai
Just cutting everything else.
[20:41] Sasa
It puts the focus on the faces.
SIGN Your thoughts on having worked on the episode
[20:44] Ai
I'm kinda sad that it's over after today.
[20:52] Ai
This was my first time meeting
Sasaoka-san, for instance.
[20:56] Ai
And getting to talk, and sing,
and do a round table like this...
[21:00] Ai
It's all been so much! I feel full.
[21:03] Kataoka
That's good to hear.
[21:04] Naga
[21:05] Kataoka
What about you, Nagahama-san?
[21:07] Naga
Well, let's see...
[21:10] Naga
Y'know, it was really fun.
[21:12] Naga
I got to drag the artist,
Sasaoka-san, to the recording.
[21:18] Naga
Someone who's normally
cooped up in her own studio.
[21:21] Naga
So that was fun.
[21:22] Ai
She sure doesn't dress like a shut-in.
[21:25] Naga
True enough!
[21:27] Naga
I'm very satisfied with how everything went.
[21:32] Naga
I'm glad.
[21:33] Sasa
This was my first time being around
a professional production like this,
[21:40] Sasa
and seeing how many people
have internalized this work
[21:44] Sasa
to put together three minutes of film for it
[21:50] Sasa
really helps me realize the amount of
polish that goes into a project like this.
[21:58] Sasa
And I think it's an experience
that'll help me in future.
[22:01] Sasa
I feel almost like there's
pressure to capitalize on it.
[22:04] Sasa
So I'm going to keep working hard.
[22:07] Naga
That's good to hear.
[22:07] Kataoka
Thanks for coming.
[22:10] Narrator
And that's it for today's discussion.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
[22:13] Narrator
Next time on "The Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
[22:17] Narrator
we're ditching the studio and crashing
the episode wrap party instead!
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:22] Narrator
And a big-time musician
makes an appearance?
[22:24] Narrator
Will the free-flowing conversation
end up making any sense?
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:28] Narrator
Find out next time!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Kyoto Studio
SIGN Today, the footage for Friend M and Big Sister is being filmed
SIGN The completed makeup for Friend M
SIGN Test Photography
SIGN The footage will be composited onto the faces of the marionettes
SIGN The backgrounds are all done on blue screen
SIGN Cameras rolling
SIGN Checking the footage
SIGN Filming Big Sis
SIGN That's a wrap for today
SIGN Ekoda exists in all our hearts
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
E11
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SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Director:
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
SIGN Tales from New-Burg
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Hamburg
Steak
Specialty
Restaurant
[00:18] Clerk
Welcome.
[00:20] Clerk
One A-Set: "The Mexican," coming right up.
[00:22] O
Hey, you!
[00:24] Ekoda
Yeah, what?
[00:25] O
Look, all I'm trying to say is,
music is entertainment.
[00:29] Clerk
Here you are.
[00:30] O
Oh, thanks.
[00:31] O
See, my plan is to hit the big time by next year.
SIGN That's what you said last year.
[00:35] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:37] O
Anyway, what have you been up to lately?
[00:39] Ekoda
Oh, just work, doing this and—
[00:40] O
Just like a young lady should!
[00:41] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:42] O
This is what I'm talkin' about.
[00:44] O
Entertainment is the
dog and the cat. You dig?
[00:47] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat! Cat!
[00:49] Customer
Thanks, it was delicious.
[00:49] Ekoda
That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
[00:50] Clerk
Thank you for coming.
[00:51] O
If anything, it helped me
realize that Bowska is music.
[00:53] BG Song
Dog! Dog! Cat!
[00:54] O
And I've got nothing
but gratitude for the fans!
SIGN Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
[00:57] ---
Cat!
[01:00] Ekoda
You know, Ohtsuki-kun... You're a funny guy.
[01:03] O
See, I'm Bowska, and you're Juliette!
[01:05] O
No, more like Kana-chan.
[01:07] O
And there'll be a Takagi Boo-san
who gains legendary status,
SIGN ...well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
[01:09] O
and that's how it oughta be.
[01:11] Ekoda
Can I get a beer?
[01:12] Clerk
Coming right up.
SIGN A Night for Shoegazing
SIGN Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Nakki
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
[01:36] Other customer
Huh? You're drinking, Seiji-san?
[01:39] Seiji
Thank you very much!
[01:41] Nakki
Saying "rock" is fine,
but that encompasses so much.
[01:44] Nakki
I mean, you've got punk
and new wave, of course...
[01:48] Nakki
Then, out on the fringes, you've
got stuff like shoegaze, you know?
[01:55] Nakki
I bet you're thinking,
"What the heck is shoegaze?"
[01:57] Nakki
And I've asked that question myself...
[02:00] Nakki
But the thing is, you can't
really talk about shoegaze
[02:02] Nakki
if you don't have a good grasp on the history
of music, or the various epochs of rock...
SIGN Deathbed Confessions
[02:07] Nakki
See, in England, they had
something called psychedelic rock,
[02:10] Nakki
and that's where it all started.
[02:12] Nakki
Noisy guitars and pop melodies.
That's basically what it is.
[02:16] Nakki
I think, for me, it started with
My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless,"
[02:20] Nakki
but then, you've also got techno,
death metal, neo-acoustic, bossa nova...
[02:23] Ekoda
Once again,
[02:23] Ekoda
I've picked up a worthless guy...
[02:24] Nakki
I went through phases of listening to
all of them, and I think I needed to.
[02:24] Clerk
See you next time, Seiji-san!
[02:27] Seiji
Thank you very much!
[02:28] Nakki
Just like how I needed to
read Kamijo Atsushi's "To-y."
SIGN One Early Afternoon in Ekoda
SIGN Starring Ekoda-chan
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Koshoji
SIGN Music By
SIGN Sakurai Kenta
[02:45] Ekoda
Okay! Ready to go.
SIGN ...Ekoda-chan...
SIGN who lives in Ekoda
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:46] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:52] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 11: Kobayashi Osamu,
SIGN Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Koshoji Megumi.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
SIGN Episode 11's Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
[04:02] Narrator
We've also got an amazing
group of guest musicians,
[04:05] Narrator
with a lively discussion from
the episode wrap party!
[04:10] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-Chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:15] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
[04:15] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[04:18] Osamu
Cheers!
SIGN Shot with the co-operation of
[04:18] Cast
Cheers!
[04:21] Kosho
Good work!
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[04:24] Osamu
I'm Kobayashi Osamu, and
I directed this episode of the anime.
SIGN Episode 11's Director
Kobayashi Osamu
[04:30] Osamu
In the past, I've directed "Beck"
and "Paradise Kiss," among others.
[04:34] Osamu
Stoked to be here.
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
Koshoji Megumi
[04:35] Megumi
I played the role of Ekoda-chan.
[04:38] Megumi
I'm Koshoji Megumi of "Maison
book girl" fame. It's nice to be here.
[04:45] Kenji
Oh, um, well, I played the role of Ohken...
[04:50] Kenji
Nakki and me are in a band
together called Tokusatsu.
[04:53] Kenji
I'm Ohtsuki Kenji. Thanks for having me.
SIGN Ohtsuki Kenji
[04:58] Osamu
Ohken!
[04:59] Kenji
Thanks.
[05:00] Nara
I'm Narasaki. I played the role of Nakki.
SIGN Music
[05:06] Nara
Ohken and me are in a band called Tokusatsu.
[05:07] Ohken
Yeah, we are.
[05:09] Ohken
Good to be here.
[05:11] Osamu
Nakki!
[05:14] Kenta
Well, I did some of the
background music on this episode.
[05:19] Kenta
I'm Maison book girl's...
uh, the band Koshoji over here is in...
[05:25] Kenta
I'm Maison book girl's
producer, Sakurai Kenta.
SIGN Music
Sakurai Kenta
[05:29] Kenta
Great to be here.
[05:31] Osamu
Sakurai!
[05:34] Osamu
Now, looking at Ohken himself, Ohtsuki-san...
[05:34] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Thoughts on working on Ekoda-chan
[05:35] Kenji
Right.
[05:37] Osamu
You played a character
who was pretty much you...
[05:39] Osamu
Although, I was the one who wrote your lines,
[05:41] Kenji
Right.
[05:43] Kenji
Right.
[05:44] Osamu
so he was kinda you, but not completely.
[05:46] Kenji
That sums it up.
[05:47] Osamu
What did you think about that?
[05:49] Kenji
Well, y'know... the art...
[05:53] Kenji
When I saw the character design,
[05:55] Kenji
he reminded me of myself 15 years ago.
[05:58] Osamu
That's a good point.
[06:00] Kenji
Back when I was rocking it
with Nakki in Tokusatsu,
[06:04] Kenji
every now and again.
[06:05] Osamu
Right.
[06:05] Kenji
And I was like, "Whoa, man!"
[06:07] Kenji
Because the character's got long hair,
[06:10] Kenji
and cracked makeup here...
[06:10] Osamu
Oh, right! Right.
[06:12] Osamu
You mean, his appearance.
[06:13] Kenji
So he looks even younger,
like how I did in the late '90s,
[06:17] Kenji
all the way up to the early 2000s,
when I was gaining more notoriety.
[06:21] Kenji
And that was nice to see.
[06:23] Osamu
Yeah! And I drew it.
[06:26] Megumi
I was a bit nervous about
whether I could do it or not,
[06:29] Megumi
but since I already knew
the director here...
[06:34] Megumi
He's even come to a few of our shows.
[06:38] Osamu
I love them.
[06:38] Megumi
And he's passionate about our music.
[06:40] Osamu
I love you, too, Sakurai.
[06:42] Megumi
Right, so I was pretty sure...
[06:44] Megumi
it'd be a good project to work on.
[06:45] Osamu
You felt reassured?
[06:49] Megumi
It's my first time doing anything like this,
but since it was with someone I know,
[06:53] Megumi
I didn't mind jumping on board.
[06:55] Osamu
I see.
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 11 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[06:56] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Reasons for working on "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan"
[07:01] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[07:02] Megumi
When I heard plans were in place,
[07:03] Megumi
I read the first volume of the manga.
[07:05] Osamu
Right, I sent it over.
[07:06] Osamu
The story I wrote is based
on panels from that one.
[07:08] Megumi
Right.
[07:10] Osamu
So I gave her a copy and
told her to check it out.
[07:12] Megumi
So I got it, and read the parts in question...
[07:17] Osamu
The part with Ohken was
almost lifted wholesale.
[07:20] Osamu
Talking about making his debut on
a major label, and getting his big break...
[07:25] Osamu
That was all from the manga.
[07:26] Kenji
I see.
[07:28] Osamu
And hearing you deliver that line
adds another layer to the joke.
[07:32] Osamu
I mean, how many decades has it been?
[07:33] Kenji
My big break came 30 years ago, so...
[07:37] Osamu
But next year...
[07:38] Megumi
I imagined that was what you were
like before getting your big break.
[07:42] Megumi
Reading Ekoda-chan,
I felt like Ekoda-chan and myself
[07:46] Megumi
were pretty different people,
[07:49] Megumi
but I could see a lot of people
I know, or even friends of mine,
[07:56] Megumi
reflected in how she acts, like
"Oh, she's just like Ekoda-chan."
[08:00] Megumi
And that made me feel like
I understood her better while reading it.
[08:05] Megumi
That thought kinda informed
how I ended up voicing her.
[08:10] Megumi
That was my takeaway.
[08:11] Osamu
You were able to get a feel for
the realism of the character, yeah?
[08:14] Osamu
How people like her are out there,
and how you recognized people in her.
[08:17] Megumi
Oh, yeah, I definitely recognized her.
[08:20] Osamu
Most people don't go: "Hey, you!"
[08:22] Megumi
They certainly don't. That's true.
[08:24] Osamu
But she just responds with: "Yeah, what?"
[08:26] Megumi
Right!
[08:26] Osamu
What did you think about that line?
[08:29] Megumi
Well, after saying it...
[08:31] Megumi
Let's see, I think it's a case of...
[08:33] Megumi
Well, your version of Ekoda-chan is
[08:36] Megumi
the really laid-back type, isn't she?
[08:39] Osamu
Yeah. Sounds about right.
[08:41] Megumi
That was the impression
I got and... I'm not sure.
[08:47] Megumi
I don't really think I'm all that laid-back.
[08:51] Megumi
I mean, maybe I am,
but I don't think of myself that way.
[08:53] Osamu
Cool, sure, but maybe not laid-back.
[08:56] Megumi
So I think if someone said, "Hey, you!" at me,
I'd probably go, "Hey, you!" right back.
[09:00] Kenji
That seems like what someone
who's laid-back would say back, though.
[09:04] Megumi
I guess so!
[09:05] Kenji
Right? That's pretty laid-back.
[09:05] Nakki
I'm not sure.
[09:07] Megumi
Is that what it is?
[09:08] Osamu
Laid-back...
[09:09] Megumi
Am I laid-back?
[09:09] Kenji
Maybe it's more like... easygoing?
[09:11] Megumi
Ah, easygoing, yeah.
[09:12] Megumi
So because of that, I imagined
her as this cool, laid-back chick.
[09:19] Kenji
Dubbing voices is just...
I mean, getting the timing right...
[09:23] Kenji
I was clueless.
[09:24] Osamu
You had to do a few takes.
[09:25] Kenji
Oh, for sure!
[09:27] Kenji
It was just... It made me realize
how amazing voice actors are.
[09:31] Osamu
I was impressed with your timing.
[09:33] Kenji
I dunno...
[09:34] Osamu
The "dog and the cat" part.
[09:37] Kenji
I played a villain in "Kamen
Rider" once, and I had to...
[09:43] Kenta
You get around.
[09:44] Kenji
Well, they had battle scenes, you know?
[09:47] Osamu
Oh, that's iki-shibai! "Voice grunting."
[09:49] Osamu
That's called iki-shibai.
[09:49] Kenji
Iki-shibai, huh?
[09:51] Osamu
Like when you're fighting...
[09:52] Kenji
Right.
[09:55] Kenji
Yeah, just like that!
[09:55] Osamu
Those kinds of noises.
[09:56] Kenji
That was really tough!
[09:58] Kenta
Oh, I get it. The "iki" part of
"iki-shibai" means "breathing."
[10:02] Osamu
Right, it's all about breathing.
[10:04] Osamu
It happens a lot in anime.
[10:05] Kenta
Ah, I see.
[10:06] Kenji
It's seriously hard.
[10:08] Osamu
There's a story behind why
I asked Koshoji-san to act in this.
[10:13] Megumi
Oh, yeah. A story—
[10:14] Osamu
When Getters-san said...
[10:17] Megumi
So there's this famous fortune-teller
called Getters Iida-san,
[10:23] Megumi
and we were appearing at an event together,
[10:26] Megumi
so he ended up reading my fortune.
[10:30] Osamu
And then?
[10:30] Megumi
Well, he said... uh...
[10:32] Megumi
It'd be a good idea for me to go into acting.
[10:35] Osamu
It was foretold.
[10:37] Megumi
And I think you caught wind of it.
[10:38] Osamu
Right.
[10:39] Megumi
But even though he'd said that,
[10:41] Megumi
I wasn't so sure, so I told you,
and you brought up voice acting.
[10:45] Osamu
I asked her if she wanted to do it.
[10:47] Megumi
Right, right. There and then.
[10:48] Osamu
And you agreed straight away.
[10:50] Osamu
So it was settled in that moment,
and you became Ekoda-chan.
[10:52] Megumi
Really? Thanks!
[10:54] Megumi
It was a lot of fun.
[10:56] Osamu
Nakki, you also played a you
that wasn't really you.
SIGN Narasaki-san's first experience doing voice-overs
[11:01] Osamu
And it's funny, because you would never
talk about shoegaze, but the character does.
[11:05] Osamu
But there was an element of you
in there. Art-wise, at least.
[11:08] Osamu
What did you think about playing him?
[11:10] Nakki
Well, it was my first time acting,
and I think I've caught the acting bug.
[11:16] Osamu
I knew it! I thought you would!
[11:18] Nakki
I wanted to flex my acting muscles.
[11:20] Osamu
You sent over a little sample
beforehand that was very voice actor-y.
[11:25] Nakki
Well, I was practicing,
and I sent you the results...
[11:27] Nakki
And then, you told me
[11:28] Nakki
I needed to sound more normal.
[11:29] Osamu
Not my exact words.
[11:30] Kenta
Something I like about
Nakki-san is, he's got a cute side.
[11:33] Kenta
I've always thought that.
Like, how he's always practicing...
[11:37] Kenta
I really like how diligent you are.
[11:40] Megumi
He's lost for words!
[11:42] Osamu
But what did you think after doing it?
[11:44] Osamu
I know I gave you a bit of direction.
[11:46] Nakki
Oh, yeah, it was fun.
[11:47] Nakki
Yeah, I think this might lead to me
taking more and more voice-acting jobs.
[11:52] Nakki
Let me know if you need anyone.
[11:54] Osamu
I remember Sakurai-kun sent me a message,
[11:57] Kenta
Right.
[11:58] Osamu
telling me about what a great job you did.
[12:00] Osamu
And it really was a super job.
[12:03] Osamu
That's because, from
a professional perspective,
[12:05] Osamu
I wasn't looking for something
that sounded too rehearsed.
[12:10] Osamu
"Well, ya know what I think?"
[12:12] Kenta
I didn't really want a run-of-the-mill
[12:12] Kenta
That kind of finely-honed take.
[12:14] Kenta
voice-acting performance.
[12:16] Nakki
Right.
[12:16] Osamu
I wanted it to sound natural,
[12:18] Osamu
but not to the point
where it was really loose.
[12:21] Osamu
And Nakki was able to do that, walking the
tightrope between too clunky and too slick.
[12:28] Kenta
Right.
[12:29] Osamu
Right?
[12:29] Kenta
I think, normally...
[12:31] Kenta
You get situations like this sometimes,
[12:33] Kenta
where we go out for drinks,
every now and then,
[12:38] Kenta
and in situations like that, it's a bit like...
[12:41] Kenta
You get a taste of Nakki-san's...
Well, his great conversational tone, I guess?
[12:45] Kenta
That's how I think of it.
[12:47] Kenta
And I think it came out in
the episode, which is great.
[12:52] Osamu
Right?
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 11's Director
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN Episode 11's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Koshoji Megumi
[12:59] Narrator
In the first half, things were lively,
with stories from the recording,
[13:03] Narrator
and insights into the casting.
[13:05] Narrator
In the second half, we'll hear about the
attention to detail that goes into the music,
[13:08] Narrator
and about the locations
depicted in the anime.
SIGN Thoughts on reading the
script for the first time?
[13:15] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Thoughts on reading the script?
[13:20] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
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and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
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SIGN Kobayashi Osamu x Koshoji Megumi
[13:20] Megumi
When I first read the script...
[13:22] Osamu
You saw the storyboards first.
[13:23] Megumi
Oh, that's right.
[13:25] Megumi
The thing with the art is, instead of
how Ekoda-chan looks in the manga...
[13:31] Osamu
Yeah?
[13:32] Megumi
Which I read, Kobayashi-san,
[13:33] Osamu
Right, right.
[13:35] Megumi
when you sent it to me...
[13:37] Megumi
But the art in the storyboards,
instead of looking like Ekoda-chan...
[13:41] Megumi
She looked a bit like me, I thought.
[13:43] Osamu
My first sketch was basically you.
[13:45] Megumi
Oh, I see now.
[13:46] Osamu
Wasn't easy making her look like Ekoda-chan.
[13:48] Megumi
And you know, as I was thinking that...
[13:53] Osamu
I mixed you two together.
[13:56] Megumi
And that somehow made it
[13:57] Megumi
easier to get into the role.
[13:59] Osamu
I see.
[14:00] Osamu
Instead of it being a totally
different person,
[14:03] Osamu
it was more like an alternate
version of myself.
[14:06] Osamu
That was how it came across to me.
[14:08] Osamu
That's a great way of putting it.
[14:10] Megumi
Is it?
[14:10] Osamu
But you're not usually
a voice actress, are you?
[14:14] Megumi
You're right.
[14:14] Osamu
And people might wonder why
I didn't cast seasoned voice actors,
[14:17] Osamu
and I was the one who
asked you all to do this...
[14:21] Osamu
I wanted it to sound like something you
wouldn't get if you used the usual suspects.
[14:26] Osamu
And then, we have Nakki,
[14:28] Osamu
who's like "I can totally do this,"
and sounding like a proper voice actor.
[14:32] Osamu
And he could totally pull that off.
[14:33] Osamu
But what Sakurai-kun mentioned,
[14:35] Osamu
his normal speaking voice
was what I was really after.
[14:39] Sakurai
Oh, I see.
[14:41] Osamu
For Ohken, I mean, he's
a consummate entertainer...
[14:43] Kenta
Right.
[14:44] Osamu
So I just wanted him to be entertaining.
[14:47] Osamu
And it's the same with you, Koshoji-san.
[14:49] Osamu
I wanted it to be good,
and not just "good for voice-acting."
[14:52] Osamu
I wanted something different.
[14:55] Osamu
That's why I wanted you
to put your own mark on it.
[15:00] Osamu
And that's exactly what
you did, so it's all good.
[15:04] Kenji
I lack some kind of fundamental skill
when it comes to reading scripts,
[15:08] Kenji
so... I mean, I've had cameos
on TV shows and in movies before,
[15:13] Kenji
but voice scripts are different, right?
They're not written in prose.
[15:18] Kenji
And there's stuff I don't
understand with the drawings...
[15:21] Osamu
Did I show you the
storyboards first this time?
[15:24] Kenji
Did you?
[15:25] Osamu
Before the script?
[15:25] Kenji
I remember seeing New-Burg.
[15:29] Kenji
I thought that was interesting.
[15:30] Osamu
We can get back to that later!
[15:32] Kenji
I think this is a case where...
[15:35] Kenji
I mean, this is something I've learned since
doing Zetsubou-sensei and meeting Nakki,
[15:40] Kenji
but in terms of anime, I'm from
the "Inakappe Taisho" generation.
[15:44] Osamu
The "Buh why?" guy?
[15:45] Kenji
Yeah, like "Hakushon Daimao." The old stuff.
[15:47] Kenji
So I had no idea anime had become
so sharp-looking, with such an edge to it.
[15:54] Osamu
Especially this episode, since
my version delves into subcultures.
[15:57] Kenji
So I thought, since we were going for edgy,
[16:01] Kenji
I thought, instead of trying
to memorize the script,
[16:04] Kenji
I'd just capitalize on the
mood in the booth.
[16:07] Osamu
Of course.
[16:07] Kenji
I thought that was more what you wanted.
[16:10] Osamu
Since it's in New-Burg.
[16:10] Kenji
Right, that's where we were.
[16:12] Nakki
I had quite a few lines...
[16:18] Nakki
So I thought I probably needed to practice.
SIGN Special details in the soundtrack
[16:23] Kenta
Something that came up early was...
[16:26] Kenta
I was asked... by the director,
Kobayashi-san, no less,
[16:32] Kenta
to make the music a bit like
an advertisement for Maison book girl.
[16:37] Megumi
Like it was promotional?
[16:38] Osamu
I specifically wanted the music to sound
[16:39] Kenta
You kept asking for it to be more like that.
[16:40] Osamu
like something from the band!
[16:42] Kenta
For it to sound like Maison book girl.
[16:44] Osamu
I wanted it to sound modern.
[16:46] Kenta
And well, since that was what you wanted,
[16:50] Kenta
I reworked the music.
[16:52] Osamu
Right. And then, it was perfect.
[16:52] Kenta
And then... Oh, thank you.
[16:55] Megumi
In the reworked version of the music,
[16:57] Megumi
there's a bit where I'm humming.
[16:58] Osamu
Right.
[16:59] Kenta
I felt like I'd heard that
melody somewhere before.
[17:02] Megumi
Yeah, it's actually a "book girl" song.
[17:05] Osamu
I didn't get the feeling
that you were nervous.
[17:08] Megumi
Well... I don't think I was.
[17:11] Osamu
You're probably used to mics.
[17:12] Megumi
Well, y'know, recording vocals
for songs normalizes it for me.
[17:19] Megumi
But I wear headphones when I do vocals.
[17:22] Megumi
This was just a mic
[17:24] Megumi
sitting in front of me.
[17:26] Osamu
Right, right.
[17:26] Megumi
And I was alone in this huge, well-lit room.
[17:28] Osamu
It's a different vibe.
[17:30] Megumi
And it felt a lot more
like acting than singing.
[17:34] Osamu
Yeah, yeah.
[17:34] Megumi
I mean, when it comes to singing,
[17:36] Megumi
you're still recording your voice...
[17:38] Osamu
Right, right.
[17:39] Megumi
But I could tell there was a difference
between reading a script and acting.
SIGN It's in the anime!?
Tales about a "special" location!
[17:46] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
[17:51] Osamu
I think maybe the most unique part
about my episode of Ekoda-chan,
SIGN What's this "New-Burg" place mentioned in the script?
[17:51] Censor Bar
Kobayashi
Osamu
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[17:57] Osamu
is that it features real locations.
[18:02] Osamu
That's a bit of an oddity, I think.
[18:05] Osamu
Plus, Nakki and Ohken, who are also in it,
[18:09] Osamu
have some history with these places.
[18:12] Osamu
One example is New-Burg.
[18:14] Kenji
Oh, man, New-Burg!
Let me tell you about New-Burg...
[18:17] Kenji
I used to go there all the time
when I was younger.
[18:19] Kenji
New-Burg is...
[18:21] Osamu
Have you—
[18:21] Nakki
I went there yesterday.
[18:23] Osamu
Really?
[18:24] Osamu
The Mexican steak.
[18:26] Kenji
Oh, the Mexican!
[18:27] Osamu
That's my favorite.
[18:27] Kenji
Yeah, yeah! I like the standard, too.
[18:29] Osamu
It's so good.
[18:29] Kenta
New-Burg came up a lot...
[18:31] Kenji
The double, too.
[18:32] Kenta
I think I might be the only one
who doesn't know what it is.
[18:36] Megumi
I don't, either.
[18:37] Kenta
You don't?
[18:38] Kenta
Yeah, I didn't think you knew.
[18:39] Kenji
We got swept up in the moment!
[18:41] Kenta
So could someone explain
what this New-Burg place is?
[18:45] Kenji
It's this place in Koenji, near the entrance
to the shopping area on the main street...
[18:52] Osamu
If you go down from
the park, it's on the left.
[18:54] Kenji
Right.
[18:54] Kenji
When I was went regularly,
it was around 380 yen a steak...
[18:57] Osamu
Very affordable.
[18:58] Osamu
I think it's around 500 now.
[18:59] Kenta
Hang on a second. You still haven't—
[19:01] Megumi
What kind of place is it?
[19:02] Everyone
Oh, it's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
[19:04] Osamu
It's "New-Burg" 'cause
it gets new steaks a lot.
[19:06] Kenji
Right!
[19:07] Kenta
Okay, that wasn't very clear before.
[19:09] Kenji
You get some rice on a plate.
[19:11] Kenta
Right.
[19:12] Kenji
And another plate with a Hamburg
steak, with plenty of sauce on it.
[19:15] Kenji
And you get pasta, and mixed vegetables.
[19:20] Kenji
And the finishing touch is a fried egg.
[19:23] Osamu
Right.
[19:23] Osamu
It's so good!
[19:25] Megumi
That was the one you appeared in?
[19:27] Osamu
Right, the one in Koenji.
[19:29] Osamu
It's a Hamburg steak restaurant.
[19:30] Megumi
I didn't realize that!
[19:31] Osamu
Great steaks.
[19:31] Megumi
So that's what kind of place it was.
[19:33] Kenji
What was the name of the other place?
SIGN The appearance of Tres Tres in Golden Gai in the anime
[19:36] Osamu
Oh, that's a bar called Tres Tres.
[19:39] Osamu
It's kind of a rock bar.
[19:40] Kenji
Do you have a bottle reserved there?
[19:42] Nakki
Oh, no, I don't.
[19:45] Kenji
I would've thought...
[19:46] Nakki
Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.
[19:48] Kenji
I see.
[19:49] Kenji
But y'know, it's a tiny place.
[19:51] Kenji
So is it the kinda place you just go
and get into conversations?
[19:55] Megumi
With people you don't know?
[19:58] Osamu
Well, with Tres Tres, it's just the bar.
[20:02] Osamu
So when I go, I pick the brains
of the young kids there.
[20:06] Nakki
I met the director for "Gamera," Higuchi...
[20:09] Osamu
Shin-chan.
[20:10] Nakki
Right, at a bar in Golden Gai.
[20:12] Osamu
That was at Plastic, though.
[20:14] Nakki
Right.
[20:15] Osamu
She's doing her best, y'know?
SIGN Regarding women like Ekoda-chan
[20:18] Osamu
Do you see yourself in her?
[20:19] Megumi
Do I seem like her?
[20:20] Osamu
You try your best.
[20:21] Megumi
Oh, that part.
[20:22] Megumi
I will say, she seems like the type
who, even if you go out with her,
[20:26] Megumi
you won't end up marrying her.
[20:29] Osamu
So you'd love her and leave her?
[20:32] Megumi
No, I mean more how she doesn't
say what she really thinks.
[20:35] Osamu
Oh, true.
[20:36] Osamu
True.
[20:36] Megumi
So I get the feeling
[20:38] Megumi
she'd be too considerate,
[20:39] Megumi
and that'd lead to distance.
SIGN Thoughts on today
[20:41] Megumi
Normally, I don't get to talk in a relaxed
environment with all of you like this,
[20:48] Megumi
so... this was a lot of fun.
[20:50] Osamu
I had so much fun, I got drunk.
[20:52] Osamu
Aw, yeah. Getting hammered is fun, yeah.
[20:56] Kenji
You know, something that really
shocked me about this shoot...
[21:03] Kenji
is the cameras. There's... one...
[21:05] Kenji
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine...
[21:09] Kenji
Nine cameras!
[21:10] Osamu
That's crazy!
[21:12] Kenji
This seems more like a one cellphone
camera kind of arrangement!
[21:15] Kenji
Nine cameras?!
[21:16] Osamu
They could've done it with three!
[21:17] Kenji
Nine cameras... for this?!
[21:19] Megumi
There're more cameras than people!
[21:20] Osamu
I've never seen anything like it!
[21:22] Osamu
The heck is up with that? Nine cameras!
[21:25] Osamu
I'm really looking forward
to seeing the final video.
[21:28] Osamu
Lots of different angles. Just cut, cut, cut...
[21:30] Nakki
Right?
[21:31] Kenta
Makes you wonder where the cuts will be.
[21:32] Kenji
Right?
[21:33] Kenta
Should be interesting.
[21:34] Kenji
They could make this segment
in 3D with all these angles.
[21:37] Nakki
I was kinda focused on the segment, so...
[21:40] Nakki
Once the cameras are off,
I'm ready to chow down.
[21:45] Nakki
That's all.
[21:47] Osamu
So cool!
[21:50] Kenta
Well, today, I kind of... have my
doubts about whether I should be here,
[21:56] Kenta
considering the caliber
of the other guests.
[21:59] Osamu
C'mon, genius! Don't be like that, genius!
[22:00] Kenta
But I had a lot of fun being able
to kick back and chat with everyone.
[22:06] Kenta
I'd love to do it again. Thanks for having me.
[22:10] Narrator
And that's it for this week's round table.
SIGN Next Episode Preview
SIGN Next time on "The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat,"
SIGN it's the final episode!
SIGN Director
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
[22:18] Pink bubble
But this is Ekoda-chan, so don't
expect the usual kind of finale.
SIGN Director
[22:23] Pink bubble
The director will talk about some unique
difficulties he faced working on Ekoda-chan!
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Ekoda-chan's
VA
SIGN Director
[22:27] Pink bubble
See you then!
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Director:
SIGN Kobayashi Osamu
SIGN On Koenji's Junjo Shopping Street
SIGN Tales from New-Burg
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Worker
SIGN Worker
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Worker
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ohken
SIGN That's what you said last year.
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Music
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN That pissed me off...
But he looked kinda
...cute just now...
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN Customer (Woman)
SIGN Worker
SIGN Worker
SIGN Would you please stop
talking like you're giving an interview...
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Ohken
SIGN Well, I'm Ekoda-chan.
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Worker
SIGN A Night for Shoegazing
SIGN Tales from Shinjuku Golden Gai
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Nakki
SIGN Music By
SIGN Narasaki
SIGN Customer (Man)
SIGN Seiji
SIGN Ekoda-chan
SIGN Nakki
[24:58] Ekoda
Once again,
[24:58] Ekoda
I've picked up a worthless guy...
SIGN Customer (Man)
SIGN One Early Afternoon
in Ekoda
SIGN Starring Ekoda-chan
SIGN Featuring
SIGN Koshoji
SIGN Music By
SIGN Sakurai Kenta
SIGN ...Ekoda-chan...
SIGN who lives in Ekoda
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
E12
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[00:01] Ekoda
Let's see, I'm 24 this year...
[00:05] Ekoda
Twenty-four?!
[00:07] Ekoda
I had forgotten!
[00:09] Ekoda
What the heck? I just remembered the truth!
[00:15] Ekoda
Okay, today it's survival through ignorance!
[00:18] Ekoda
'Cuz I'm a kid!
[00:19] Ekoda
And I don't get it!
[00:31] Mysterious Guy
So obnoxious...
[00:43] Mysterious Guy
Let's see.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
[00:55] TV
Just get a look at that cutting edge!
[00:58] TV
It's like the tomato doesn't
register being cut!
[01:02] Ekoda
That's ridiculous!
It doesn't know it's been cut?
[01:05] Ekoda
As if that could even happen! How stupid!
[01:09] Ekoda
Come to think of it,
K-kun hasn't called lately.
[01:12] Ekoda
Does that mean I've been
cut off already, too?!
[01:16] Ekoda
No, no, it can't be.
[01:18] Ekoda
Let's see here...
SIGN Street Corner Interview
[01:32] News
This is Tanaka-san, who raises
flowers on her property every year.
[01:38] Tanaka
I want anyone who passes by to feel better.
[01:42] Tanaka
It really is beautiful!
[01:43] Ekoda
I get you.
[01:44] Idols
Thanks for talking with us!
[01:46] Idols
With our cheery singing and dancing,
we want to help everyone dream!
SIGN Street Corner Interview
[01:49] Idols
So we'll sing!
[02:40] Ekoda
You creepy bastard!
[02:43] Ekoda
Hey, I've got a bear in my pubes!
[02:47] Ekoda
You see it?!
[03:33] Narrator
They say that ten different people
produce ten different versions.
SIGN Ten Versions
SIGN Ten People
[03:37] Narrator
But what if there were new Ekoda-chans?
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Misawa Shin
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Shigino Akira
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN 12 Women
SIGN 12 Versions!?
[03:43] Narrator
12 women, 12 versions?!
SIGN Over the course of the next 12 episodes of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
we'll be checking in with the directors of each episode, and the voice
actress portraying Ekoda-chan!!
[03:45] Narrator
Over the course of the next 12 episodes
of the anime "Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan,"
[03:49] Narrator
we'll be checking in with
the directors of each episode,
[03:51] Narrator
and the voice actress
portraying Ekoda-chan.
[03:54] Narrator
Today, we're unveiling the director
of Episode 12: Morimoto Koji,
SIGN Director
SIGN Morimoto Koji
[03:59] Narrator
and Ekoda-chan's VA: Tamurapan.
SIGN Playing Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tamurapan
[04:01] Narrator
This will be the final discussion segment!
SIGN Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tamurapan
SIGN Episode 12's Director
SIGN Morimoto Koji
[04:04] Narrator
Get ready for a candid look at the
production of the episode once again.
[04:08] Narrator
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" special feature:
The Director and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat!
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SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Naked Chat
[04:14] Narrator
We're baring all for you!
SIGN Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
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[04:16] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN After the recording
[04:16] Koji
In terms of how it turned out, well...
SIGN Episode 12's Director
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
Tamurapan
[04:20] Koji
I was looking forward to it,
[04:23] Koji
and when you actually are
present, and things are happening,
[04:26] Koji
the process itself can be fun.
[04:28] Koji
And it's been a while
since I got to enjoy that.
[04:31] Koji
Well, our lead actress tends to get a lot
of amusement out of a variety of things,
[04:37] Koji
so I didn't have much to worry about there.
[04:41] Koji
If anything, I was more concerned with
how to depict Tamura World effectively.
[04:46] Koji
That was more of a concern.
[04:48] Koji
I think it was sort of a back-and-forth
about how best to use her performance,
[04:52] Koji
whenever the ball was in my possession...
[04:55] Koji
She handled the music for the episode, too.
[04:59] Koji
And even that back-and-forth
process is enjoyable.
[05:01] Koji
You get these chemical reactions that
come from someone else's take on things,
[05:06] Koji
and the changes that can result
from that are really interesting.
[05:09] Koji
It makes me realize these
projects have a life of their own.
[05:13] Koji
It's about when to pull back,
and when to go deeper.
SIGN Project Producer
Hatanaka Taichi
[05:17] Koji
I was watching with those things in mind.
[05:20] Tamura
It was just a lot of fun.
[05:22] Tamura
The thing is... when it comes to Ekoda-chan,
[05:27] Tamura
I feel like I understand her a lot.
[05:30] Tamura
Like, I get Ekoda-chan.
[05:33] Tamura
When the subject first came up
with Director Morimoto,
[05:37] Tamura
I told him, "I get Ekoda-chan."
[05:39] Tamura
So I was grateful for the chance
to become her today.
[05:48] Tamura
And I got to say the kind of things
that you wouldn't normally say
[05:53] Tamura
in front of so many people,
and that was liberating.
[05:57] Koji
A bit of dirty talk!
[05:58] Tamura
Yeah, really!
[05:59] Tamura
That was a ton of fun.
[06:01] Koji
Like light S&M.
[06:03] Tamura
It felt great.
[06:05] Tamura
At one point I got a little dazed,
because I had been shouting so much.
[06:09] Koji
Sorry about that.
[06:10] Taichi
That is a scene with a lot of shouting!
[06:12] Koji
That's true.
[06:12] Tamura
Really.
[06:14] Koji
They're not the kind
of things you'd usually say.
[06:15] Tamura
Right, exactly.
[06:17] Tamura
They're... I imagine voice
actors have a lot of fun.
[06:20] Koji
Right, they get to say things
they normally never would.
[06:21] Tamura
And it's like an everyday thing.
[06:24] Koji
It's a bit like playing pretend.
[06:26] Tamura
Right.
[06:27] Tamura
It's really fun.
[06:28] Tamura
I mean, it's a scene that wouldn't be
out of place in a normal life,
[06:32] Tamura
but the words aren't yours.
[06:35] Tamura
They're not even what you would think,
[06:39] Tamura
but in a situation that
you would be in, I guess.
[06:42] Tamura
That's really interesting.
[06:44] Koji
One thing...
[06:45] Koji
So you don't have the same
kind of life as Ekoda-chan?
[06:49] Tamura
Not this part, no!
[06:51] Tamura
Not that.
[06:54] Tamura
I don't ever flash anyone, but...
in terms of watching TV?
[06:59] Koji
Right, right.
[07:00] Tamura
And going, "I feel you." That I understand.
[07:03] Tamura
That is definitely something I do.
SIGN Behind the scenes stories
from Episode 12 of the
"Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan" anime
[07:09] Koji
They said I could do whatever I wanted.
SIGN Reasons for accepting the offer to work on this?
[07:09] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
[07:12] Koji
And that was the main thing.
[07:14] Koji
I was like, "Really?!"
[07:15] Koji
I mean, the voice actresses for the lead...
[07:19] Koji
All the voice actresses are different,
the music's different.
[07:23] Koji
It made me wonder if that's a kind
of project that can actually happen.
[07:25] Koji
And that made me interested.
[07:28] Koji
I knew a few of the people involved.
[07:29] Koji
And I figured if they were in,
I wanted to be, too.
[07:33] Taichi
I see.
[07:34] Taichi
To be honest, when we told you that
you could do whatever you wanted...
[07:38] Taichi
The first thing you came up with—
[07:39] Koji
Well, there were too many
things I wasn't allowed to do.
[07:42] Koji
I was a bit disappointed!
[07:44] Koji
I was like, "What the heck? But you said..."
[07:45] Taichi
Sorry about that.
[07:48] Taichi
There are other considerations...
[07:49] Koji
They were like, "You can't do that.
No, not that either."
[07:50] Tamura
That's how it works!
[07:52] Tamura
That's usually the facts.
[07:53] Koji
I mean, I was like, "But she's naked!"
[07:56] Tamura
Earlier there was,
I'm not sure I can say this,
[07:56] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Questions about what is acceptable and unacceptable for broadcast
[07:59] Koji
You mean—?
[07:59] Tamura
this real discussion about nipples...
[08:02] Tamura
And how much you could show,
and it was this whole debate.
[08:07] Koji
I mean, come on, we've all got them.
[08:10] Koji
That's what I think. So it looks
unnatural if they're not there.
[08:14] Koji
But y'know, that's the kind of
thing that's part of the process.
[08:17] Koji
It can be kind of a drag.
[08:18] Tamura
It was so funny.
[08:19] Tamura
The things that weren't allowed...
[08:21] Tamura
Like, where the line is drawn?
That's interesting.
[08:22] Koji
The no-gos?
[08:24] Koji
What I'm saying is,
who gets to make that call?
[08:26] Koji
Well, really just Hatanaka-san.
That's obvious!
[08:27] Taichi
Edit that!
[08:29] Taichi
We'll edit that later!
[08:32] Taichi
We'll make it work!
[08:32] Koji
Oh, it's fine.
[08:34] Koji
I want to leave that part in.
[08:37] Taichi
Well, if you're sure!
[08:39] Tamura
But the first person who says no,
[08:41] Koji
Right. But, y'know...
[08:41] Tamura
I think that probably means that it's
fundamentally a problem on some level, right?
[08:45] Taichi
Exactly.
[08:46] Koji
I mean, maybe it's not socially acceptable.
[08:48] Tamura
For anime.
[08:49] Koji
But this is on late at night.
[08:51] Tamura
Right! I get what you mean.
[08:51] Koji
That's the thing! I'd understand
if it was on during prime time...
[08:55] Tamura
That totally makes sense.
[08:56] Koji
Right?
[08:57] Koji
I mean, kids might see it then...
[09:01] Koji
But when it's a time slot
that's on late at night,
[09:04] Tamura
Right.
[09:04] Koji
it's not like elementary school
kids are going to be watching.
[09:06] Tamura
But I think, with really little kids,
they'd probably still be close to their moms.
[09:12] Tamura
So I doubt they'd end up seeing it anyway.
[09:14] Koji
Right. Not what you'd expect.
[09:16] Koji
I was trying to avoid certain... techniques?
[09:16] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Difficulties in production
[09:21] Koji
I guess I did use those, but I wanted
to do something different, too.
[09:25] Koji
When I was putting this together.
[09:29] Koji
It's kind of like... as an animator,
and as a key animator,
[09:34] Koji
I wanted to enjoy the kind of things that the
director doesn't normally handle personally.
[09:39] Koji
And I hope people notice those parts.
[09:41] Taichi
Are there any particular scenes
you paid close attention to?
[09:43] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Scenes the Director paid special attention to
[09:44] Koji
I think the song.
[09:47] Taichi
Ah, the song.
[09:49] Koji
I figured that it has to land right.
[09:51] Tamura
I'm looking forward to the finished version!
[09:51] Koji
It's kind of a focal point.
[09:53] Taichi
It's carrying a lot of weight
for the episode as a whole.
[09:55] Koji
Right, exactly.
[09:56] Koji
I spent a lot of time on it.
[09:59] Tamura
A lot of focus.
[09:59] Koji
It felt like I was leaning hard on myself.
[10:01] Tamura
A lot of time and care...
[10:03] Koji
Nah, I wouldn't make it sound so severe.
[10:03] Tamura
All that effort and sweat...
[10:06] Koji
I'll hold it together.
[10:09] Tamura
I think what I was imagining...
[10:09] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN First impressions when reading the script
[10:12] Tamura
The sort of feeling of the world?
[10:16] Tamura
I had been filled in on the kind of
atmosphere we were going for,
[10:19] Tamura
but then actually being able to...
[10:23] Tamura
Take the scene I was imagining,
and then put specific lines into it?
[10:29] Tamura
How do I put this...?
[10:31] Tamura
It made it suddenly feel a lot more real.
[10:37] Tamura
At first, there's no sound or anything...
[10:40] Tamura
Just a script, so you think
of all the ways it could go.
[10:46] Tamura
It sort of feels otherworldly in a way,
[10:51] Tamura
but it gradually becomes more tangible,
[10:54] Tamura
and something about the normal stuff...
[10:56] Tamura
It makes me realize how otherworldly
stories and commonplace stories
[11:00] Tamura
are connected by certain things.
[11:03] Tamura
That's something I thought.
[11:05] Tamura
And that the things they have in
common are simpler than you'd think.
[11:09] Tamura
That was something that came
to mind as I was reading it.
[11:13] Tamura
I think the one that left the big
impression was from the climax...
[11:13] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Lines that made an impression
[11:19] Tamura
Where I talked about pubic hair.
[11:23] Tamura
That's not something you usually
say in front of so many people.
[11:26] Koji
Right.
[11:30] Koji
It's the kind of thing, as an elementary schooler, where you have to break out the dictionary...
[11:33] Tamura
Yeah, exactly!
[11:34] Tamura
You're right! When you're little, it's sort of...
[11:35] Koji
Right?
[11:37] Koji
"What are these characters?"
[11:38] Tamura
You're like, "What is this?"
[11:40] Koji
And there's a bit of a thrill to that.
[11:42] Koji
That was part of the scene.
[11:42] Tamura
Right, right.
[11:44] Tamura
I think that most of the time,
you say that in particular...
[11:49] Tamura
And it comes out more relaxed.
Whenever you talk about pubic hair.
[11:51] Koji
Right.
[11:52] Tamura
But it was like, "Pubes!"
[11:57] Koji
It's because she's yelling it.
[11:58] Tamura
Right. And it feels fantastic.
[12:01] Tamura
That made a big impression.
[12:04] Taichi
Did it feel good to say?
[12:06] Tamura
It felt amazing!
[12:09] Tamura
I recommend everybody try it.
[12:12] Taichi
In the safety of your own home,
shout how you keep a bear in your pubic hair.
[12:13] Tamura
Bingo!
[12:15] Tamura
I recommend it highly.
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and
Ekoda -chan's
Naked Chat
SIGN Episode 12's Ekoda-chan
SIGN Tamurapan
SIGN Episode 12's Director
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN Rinshi!!
Ekoda-Chan:
The Director
and
Ekoda-chan's
Naked
Chat
[12:23] Narrator
In the first half, we discussed the unique
challenges of the Ekoda-chan anime.
[12:28] Narrator
In the second, we'll be hearing stories
from when they were 24, like Ekoda-chan,
[12:32] Narrator
along with their in-depth thoughts
on the appeal of Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan anime.
SIGN Reflecting on Age 24
[12:44] Koji
That would've been
right before I got married...
SIGN Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
[12:44] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN When you were 24
[12:47] Tamura
So young! Wow.
[12:50] Koji
I think I preferred being with
someone to being alone, essentially.
[12:55] Koji
I've got a real craving
for affection, I think,
[12:59] Koji
and I think as a result of that,
I've never felt a lot of profound loneliness.
[13:04] Tamura
Because you know you don't
want to be lonely, you avoid it?
[13:06] Koji
Right, right.
[13:07] Koji
Sort of the opposite of what you'd expect.
[13:08] Tamura
That's an interesting way to turn out.
[13:09] Koji
I really cherished my friendships,
for example,
[13:14] Koji
or maybe that I just pursued
them aggressively.
[13:20] Koji
But even when I was on my own,
when I moved to Tokyo for example,
[13:25] Koji
I didn't really feel that lonely.
[13:29] Koji
That might not make a lot of sense.
[13:32] Koji
And I don't really understand it all myself,
[13:35] Koji
but I think I wasn't really
in a rush when I was 24.
[13:39] Koji
This was something we discussed earlier,
because of how the episode opens.
[13:44] Koji
I didn't ever have that feeling
of getting left behind.
[13:49] Tamura
Yours was more, "I'm only 24."
[13:50] Koji
Plenty of time.
[13:52] Tamura
Positive thinking!
[13:53] Koji
Right, right!
[13:54] Koji
Realizing that, "Oh, I guess some people
feel a lot of pressure around then."
[13:59] Koji
I think maybe women are
under more stress about it.
[14:01] Koji
I don't think men really experience
the same expectations... not that I'm sure.
[14:05] Koji
I mean, maybe in regards to employment.
[14:08] Tamura
Right, got to get a job.
[14:08] Koji
But other than that? 24 isn't much.
[14:12] Tamura
I was... I think two years since
I was out from university.
[14:19] Tamura
I wasn't even Tamurapan at the time, yet.
[14:23] Koji
Really?
[14:24] Tamura
I think so. Maybe I was on the
verge of discovering that identity...
[14:28] Tamura
Like I could feel it coming on.
[14:29] Koji
Maybe just the "Tamu" part.
[14:32] Tamura
Just the "Tamu."
[14:34] Koji
The "Rapan" part hadn't emerged yet.
[14:34] Tamura
Right. Not quite the full Tamurapan yet.
[14:37] Tamura
Sort of like I was still growing into myself.
[14:45] Tamura
I wonder... In terms of how lonely I felt,
[14:52] Tamura
I think I would say I'm more...
[14:56] Tamura
I'm one of those people who feels
lonelier the more people they deal with?
[15:02] Koji
Right, right.
[15:02] Tamura
Like, if you see someone, that's fine,
but even when there are people around...
[15:10] Tamura
You start thinking about how
it is when they're not around.
[15:12] Koji
You pull away mentally.
[15:13] Tamura
Right, you pull yourself
further and further out!
[15:16] Tamura
I think that's how I was at
the time, when I was 24.
[15:21] Tamura
Although that part hasn't changed much.
[15:22] Koji
Were you in much of a rush?
[15:23] Koji
Or under pressure.
[15:23] Tamura
A rush...
[15:24] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
SIGN Did she feel pressured?
[15:26] Tamura
Did I? I do think that I felt like
I had to do something.
[15:31] Tamura
But when I look back now,
[15:35] Tamura
I felt strangely fine in a way
I didn't quite understand.
[15:39] Tamura
I can remember feeling that way.
[15:41] Tamura
That's what I remember about being 24.
[15:44] Tamura
Although now that I look back...
[15:46] Koji
But in that sense, maybe
the two of you are similar.
[15:48] Tamura
You mean in terms of,
"What do I do, what do I do?"
[15:52] Tamura
But actually kind of brushing it off...
[15:58] Koji
You do have the whole world going,
[16:00] Koji
"Do you know what you
want to do? Better find out!"
[16:03] Koji
And they make it sound like you
might be in trouble if you can't.
[16:08] Koji
Right?
[16:09] Tamura
I think so.
[16:10] Tamura
Well, even then, I think I was fairly happy.
[16:15] Tamura
When it comes down to it.
[16:16] Koji
In spite of it all.
[16:17] Koji
Even with all the trouble. Right.
SIGN Things you'd want to do if you were Ekoda-chan
[16:19] ---
Morimoto Koji
[16:20] Taichi
If you were Ekoda-chan...
[16:20] Tamura
I... wouldn't want to be Ekoda-chan, though.
[16:25] Tamura
I mean, she has it hard!
[16:26] Koji
That's a real pickle.
[16:27] Tamura
Something about how lonely
she is, on top of everything else.
[16:34] Tamura
And if I was her... well...
[16:38] Koji
I'd be more curious about
how you end up like her.
[16:44] Tamura
Good question.
[16:45] Koji
Maybe it has to do with
how we had specific ambitions.
[16:50] Tamura
Oh, that is a good point.
[16:50] Koji
That might be it..
[16:53] Koji
Like for example, if you're like,
"I'm gonna make anime!"
[16:56] Tamura
Right, you've got a point.
[16:58] Koji
I decided I wanted to be an
animator in high school.
[17:00] Koji
And in that sense, I never
really faltered, so maybe...
[17:06] Koji
Since I never really had to worry about
things that didn't work out in the end.
[17:12] Tamura
Oh, right. That's true.
[17:15] Tamura
Not having a right fit...
[17:15] Koji
I think that maybe it has to do with
having a lot of potential interests.
[17:21] Koji
It means there there are lots of lives
where you might end up like that.
[17:25] Koji
Like, "What if I had become a florist?"
[17:28] Koji
"What would have happened
if I became a baker?" and such.
[17:31] Koji
You do always have that
curiosity where you wonder
[17:34] Koji
about how you'd end up
in different circumstances.
[17:36] Koji
I think everybody does.
[17:39] Koji
Especially if you've already
settled into one choice.
[17:39] Tamura
Right.
[17:41] Koji
You end up wondering what it would've
been like doing something else.
[17:44] Koji
That's part of it, I think.
[17:47] Tamura
I think Ekoda-chan's...
psychology, I guess you'd call it,
[17:52] Tamura
I wouldn't want that.
[17:53] Koji
It'd definitely be hard.
[17:56] Taichi
And painful, even.
[17:56] Tamura
It would.
[17:57] Tamura
It might be hard to withstand.
[17:58] Koji
Not the kind of thing you'd
want to play around with.
SIGN What makes Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan unique?
[18:06] Koji
The different directors, for each episode...
SIGN Morimoto Koji x Tamurapan
SIGN Differences with other anime
[18:06] Censor Bar
Morimoto Koji
[18:10] Koji
Plus the different actresses for the
lead role. And different art styles.
[18:14] Koji
I don't think there's ever been an anime
like that, and it's pretty interesting.
[18:19] Tamura
I think that with most anime,
[18:21] Tamura
there's a sort of destination in mind.
[18:28] Tamura
And because of that sort of security,
[18:30] Tamura
you can watch all the trials and tribulations.
[18:33] Tamura
Like how a character from Chibi
Maruko can walk three thousand miles.
[18:36] Koji
Because she won't die.
[18:37] Tamura
Right, definitely!
[18:38] Taichi
Since she's got the goal of
meeting her mom or whatever.
[18:39] Tamura
Exactly.
[18:40] Koji
And you're not going to see a story where
she dies right before the finish line.
[18:44] Tamura
In comparison, Ekoda-chan...
[18:46] Tamura
You can't tell what'll happen, and that's...
SIGN Ekoda-chan doesn't have a goal
[18:46] ---
Morimoto Koji
[18:50] Tamura
And that's kind of strange, for anime, I think.
[18:53] Koji
True.
[18:56] Koji
You get the feeling she's kind
of wandering the wasteland.
[18:57] Tamura
Right.
[18:58] Taichi
She's got no goal, is the thing.
Ekoda-chan doesn't have an ultimate goal.
[19:01] Tamura
And isn't that kind of terrifying?
[19:04] Koji
But a good thing about that is
it makes her really flexible.
[19:06] Tamura
You mean she can adapt?
[19:08] Koji
I think part of it is she has
to be, because it's funny.
[19:13] Tamura
Like, she wouldn't manage otherwise?
[19:14] Koji
I think that's how the world is.
But even then, she is awkward at times.
[19:17] Koji
Or maybe more like... she's got
certain things she won't budge on.
[19:21] Koji
Her own sort of code.
[19:24] Koji
And that's part of what's
interesting about her.
[19:26] ---
Morimoto Koji
SIGN The appeal of Ekoda-chan
[19:26] Koji
Well, I am a man, and so...
[19:29] Koji
I think that you'd need to
be a woman to get a full grasp
[19:32] Koji
of what's truly great about Ekoda-chan.
[19:36] Koji
But I think... I think a man's idea of...
[19:41] Koji
How do I put this? There's
the femininity that men think of,
[19:44] Koji
and the femininity that women experience.
[19:47] Koji
And the manga really gets across
that idea of, "Oh, that's how it is?"
[19:52] Koji
And I think that reading about
that is really interesting,
[19:56] Koji
and helps you get a glimpse of something
you'd never encounter otherwise.
[20:01] Koji
I think part of it is a lot of the adaptations
I've worked have been by male creators,
[20:07] Koji
so doing one drawn by a woman...
[20:11] Koji
Is something that I think maybe helped me
do something different from my usual work.
[20:18] Tamura
I wonder if you'd call it love?
There's this certain love...
[20:23] Tamura
Or maybe the emotion is more like sympathy.
[20:27] Tamura
Or that the love is for the setting instead...
[20:31] Tamura
That love... or maybe it's
a different emotion entirely.
[20:36] Koji
There are a lot of different kinds of love.
[20:38] Tamura
I'd say so! She does have her love affairs.
[20:41] Koji
I see.
[20:42] Koji
You see the love affairs she has.
[20:44] Koji
But... I think there's also this...
[20:44] Koji
Right.
[20:48] Tamura
You can see how deep her love goes.
[20:52] Tamura
That was something I thought
from the first moment I saw her.
[20:54] Koji
True.
[20:56] Koji
Well, now that we've recorded the voices today,
and it's starting to come together.
SIGN Thoughts on Today
[20:57] ---
Morimoto Koji
[21:03] Koji
But there's still animation to do,
[21:06] Koji
so I'm going to keep working.
[21:08] Koji
And with that in mind, well,
this gave me a few ideas, too.
[21:13] Koji
So I think I'm going to come out
of this with a few upgrades.
[21:18] Koji
And then you'll see those in
the final product. I hope you like it.
[21:22] Tamura
It really was a lot of fun,
[21:26] Tamura
and that... working with the director today,
[21:31] Tamura
the thought of that adding
even more to the final version
[21:34] Tamura
seems like it'd be really interesting.
[21:37] Tamura
So that, this day in Ekoda-chan's life...
[21:41] Tamura
Was kinda... the feeling that it
was born out of our own lives,
[21:48] Tamura
I think that's something to be glad about.
[21:51] Tamura
It feels like we helped bring something
to life, and that's a real treat.
[21:56] Taichi
Thanks for coming.
[21:57] Tamura
Of course.
[21:57] Koji
Thanks for having us.
SIGN Daichi Akitaro
[22:01] Narrator
And that brings a close to the Director
and Ekoda-chan's Naked Chat.
SIGN Sugii
Gisaburo
SIGN Shigino Akira
[22:06] Narrator
A new Ekoda-chan, born from
each of the twelve episodes.
SIGN Mochizuki
Tomomi
SIGN Yonetani
Yoshitomo
[22:10] Narrator
Which Ekoda-chan was closest to your type?
SIGN Takahashi
Ryosuke
SIGN Misawa Shin
[22:15] Narrator
You know, there may be an Ekoda-chan
in your life, that you're just not aware of.
SIGN Kojima
Masayuki
SIGN Takahashi Takeo
SIGN Nagahama Hiroshi
[22:21] Narrator
Thanks for staying with us to the end!
SIGN Kobayashi
Osamu
[22:25] Narrator
Until we meet again!
SIGN Morimoto Koji
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN The Director and Ekoda -chan's
SIGN Naked Chat
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
SIGN Until she's ready
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan
Until she's ready
[22:36] ---
#1 Ekoda-chan
[23:23] ---
#2 Wall
[24:20] ---
#3 Bookshelves
[24:54] ---
#4 Table
SIGN Rinshi!! Ekoda-chan