# 8 - There's a Route, but There's No Loop!
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**[00:01] ---**
It's not fair! It's just not fair!
**[00:04] ---**
The two of them are working
together? It's not fair!
**[00:08] ---**
They're so much better
than us, all I can do is laugh.
**[00:13] ---**
But they don't seem to have actually
decided whether or not they'll do it.
**[00:17] ---**
And we don't know what's up
with sempai's rough draft.
**[00:21] ---**
If it happens, we totally lose.
**[00:26] ---**
I thought about this when
Hato talked about her drawing,
**[00:29] ---**
but do you have some
kind of problem with them?
**[00:32] ---**
No. Well, not exactly.
**[00:37] ---**
To put it simply,
**[00:39] ---**
Yajimacchi, you are really amazing.
**[00:42] ---**
**[00:43] ---**
When we started our little
attempt at a "creative process,"
**[00:48] ---**
I realized how hard it really is.
**[00:51] ---**
I know I should've known already,
but I realized that I have no talent.
**[00:54] ---**
So they scared me!
**[00:58] ---**
When I heard we might not do
our special edition of the magazine,
**[01:01] ---**
I honestly felt pretty relieved.
**[01:04] ---**
You...
**[01:07] ---**
But you don't even hide
how bad your work sucks!
**[01:11] ---**
...are an asshole.
**[01:12] ---**
You talk about the complex
you have towards Hato-chan,
**[01:15] ---**
but every issue you still
draw a picture. A crappy picture!
**[01:19] ---**
Was it so important that
you had to say it twice?
**[01:23] ---**
Even if I drop out, you'll still
draw something, won't you?
**[01:28] ---**
Well, probably.
**[01:30] ---**
Then I can't drop out, I guess.
**[01:33] ---**
Why not? Do what you want!
**[01:36] ---**
You're not a pro like Ogiue-sempai.
**[01:39] ---**
Ogi-sempai, huh?
**[01:41] ---**
I wonder what she's going to draw.
**[01:44] ---**
The romance talk we had
didn't help with anything.
**[01:48] ---**
And I'm a bit worried about her pro work.
**[01:52] ---**
Shut up. Worry about yourself, not others.
**[01:56] ---**
What?
**[01:58] ---**
Decide if you're doing
something with me or not.
**[02:01] ---**
I want to, but...
**[02:04] ---**
Then don't come up with ridiculously grand
backstories until you've figured out a plot!
**[02:09] ---**
Make something small!
**[02:11] ---**
But you have to dream big!
**[02:13] ---**
That's how you end up
with absolutely nothing!
**[02:16] ---**
There's no point unless you finish it!
**[02:19] ---**
Yajimacchi is being mean.
**[03:57] ---**
If you don't think it's
interesting, nobody will.
**[04:04] ---**
Maybe that's why Sue said
I need a change of pace.
**[04:08] ---**
Pikkon!
**[04:09] ---**
You make the draft! You draw the pictures!
**[04:15] ---**
Hato-kun's art on top of my layouts...
**[04:20] ---**
There's a Route, but There's No Loop.
**[04:26] ---**
If Ogiue-sempai writes the draft,
**[04:29] ---**
then she'll do the layouts, so
maybe I could do the finished art.
**[04:35] ---**
It's true that I've always wanted
to draw a manga in that style.
**[04:42] ---**
But that style is just a copy of theirs.
**[04:48] ---**
And I can't do it unless
I'm dressed like a girl.
**[05:00] ---**
The ideal rotten girl that I want to
be, that Ohno-sempai was talking about,
**[05:05] ---**
definitely isn't her.
**[05:07] ---**
It's not me?
**[05:09] ---**
It's true that I never see
her when I'm cross-dressing.
**[05:13] ---**
But her personality is too different from
the original for me to want to be her.
**[05:16] ---**
Okay, back to being the
wonderful underclassman
**[05:19] ---**
who hasn't seen his sempai in a long time,
but still cleans up his apartment!
**[05:23] ---**
Start with the dirty books!
**[05:26] ---**
You can keep your mouth
shut, so I'm going to clean.
**[05:34] ---**
It's true I haven't seen
him for a while, though.
**[05:39] ---**
And the next thing I see is an H-game.
***SIGN*** *Seven and a Half Laps to Paradise*
**[05:45] ---**
Wait, isn't this...
**[05:47] ---**
The trap game that Kohsaka-sempai
was advertising at Comic Festival?
**[05:56] ---**
**[05:56] ---**
It's the character he was cosplaying!
**[05:58] ---**
Does this character have any?
**[06:00] ---**
I'm sure it has H-scenes!
It has to have H-scenes! H-scenes!
**[06:04] ---**
Oh boy! Oh boy!
**[06:05] ---**
Don't keep yelling that!
**[06:07] ---**
Makoto Kohsaka, a naughty
little boy who dresses like a girl?
***SIGN***
**[06:12] ---**
The name too? The staff got way too into it!
**[06:16] ---**
No, no, it's perfect!
**[06:18] ---**
Shut up!
**[06:20] ---**
Did Madarame-sempai
play it already, I wonder?
**[06:24] ---**
Did he finish the
Kohsaka-sempai route? I bet he did!
**[06:28] ---**
Then maybe...
**[06:30] ---**
Kohsaka-sempai asked Madarame-sempai
what he thought about it?
**[06:34] ---**
No, I bet Kohsaka-sempai pressured him
into saying what he thought about it!
**[06:39] ---**
Which means...
**[06:41] ---**
Like this?
**[06:44] ---**
Did you enjoy my route?
**[06:47] ---**
It was okay, I guess.
**[06:50] ---**
I'm glad. It looks like you were satisfied.
**[06:53] ---**
No... yes.
**[06:57] ---**
If you want,
**[06:58] ---**
I can do the same things I did in
the game while wearing this costume.
**[07:06] ---**
And that's your cue!
**[07:08] ---**
If he was interested in traps, I
could tell him all about them.
**[07:14] ---**
What are you making me say?
**[07:16] ---**
Perfect! Too perfect!
**[07:18] ---**
Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!
**[07:20] ---**
I'll change clothes so you go away.
**[07:22] ---**
Don't be so mean.
**[07:26] ---**
Those words came out because
you were thinking them.
**[07:29] ---**
I said shut up!
**[07:33] ---**
Huh?
**[07:35] ---**
Oh, Hato-kun? You here?
**[07:44] ---**
S-Sorry!
**[07:47] ---**
I wouldn't mind showing you everything...
**[07:56] ---**
Say it! Say it! Say it!
**[07:58] ---**
I can show you everything!
In private lessons!
**[08:01] ---**
And we'll have the initiative!
A traditional top/bottom pairing!
**[08:05] ---**
**[08:06] ---**
Enough! Stop fantasizing!
**[08:09] ---**
There's more!
**[08:10] ---**
I know! But I don't need it!
**[08:12] ---**
Why?
**[08:16] ---**
Sorry! I'm still changing!
**[08:21] ---**
Oh, sorry. I'll go take
a walk around the block.
**[08:25] ---**
I'm sorry!
**[08:26] ---**
Send me a text when you're done.
**[08:31] ---**
Perfect timing!
**[08:33] ---**
That's a go sign! A go sign!
**[08:35] ---**
Oh no! I need to get rid of her or
who knows what she'll make me say!
**[08:39] ---**
And why is sempai home so early today?
**[08:44] ---**
I see... it's really been a long time
**[08:46] ---**
since I've actually met sempai.
**[08:54] ---**
I was a little too early, huh?
**[08:56] ---**
Hato-kun's still there at this time of day.
**[08:59] ---**
Let's go home!
**[09:00] ---**
Let's take Effort Street!
**[09:03] ---**
Lately there hasn't been much
work, so I'm leaving early a lot.
**[09:08] ---**
I wonder if our company's okay.
It's a depression, after all.
**[09:12] ---**
Is my bonus going to go down again?
**[09:16] ---**
Maybe I won't get one!
**[09:19] ---**
Things have been pretty bad lately.
**[09:24] ---**
There it is.
**[09:31] ---**
Roger.
**[09:38] ---**
What's wrong? You don't have to
wait, you can go ahead and leave.
**[09:42] ---**
Um...
**[09:44] ---**
It's been a while since I've seen you, so I
was wondering if we could chat for a bit.
**[09:52] ---**
***SIGN*** I didn't apologize for what happened with Kuchiki-sempai.
***SIGN*** Talk
Confess Love
Quit
***SIGN*** It doesn't matter.
***SIGN***
***SIGN*** Oh, sorry. My makeup's all sloppy, so please don't stare at me!
***SIGN*** Talk
Confess Love
Quit
***SIGN*** No, I can't tell! Did I make you hurry? Sorry.
**[10:06] ---**
No, no, no! Guy! Guy! Guy!
***SIGN*** Talk
Confess Love
Quit
***SIGN*** Well, no sense in standing here. Want to go in?
***SIGN***
***SIGN*** Okay...
**[10:16] ---**
*Guy!*
**[10:20] ---**
So how's your collaboration going?
**[10:23] ---**
I'm waiting to hear back from Hato-kun.
**[10:26] ---**
Come to think of it, she's late
today. Maybe she's not coming.
**[10:30] ---**
So could we do a gag strip?
**[10:33] ---**
That would make the writing more important
than the drawing. You up for that?
**[10:38] ---**
If it's Warring States
jokes, I bet I could do it.
**[10:41] ---**
Seriously?
**[10:44] ---**
Looks like they came together.
**[10:54] ---**
Um, then...
**[10:56] ---**
I can't make her sit on the bed.
**[10:59] ---**
She was a guy last time,
so it didn't matter, but...
**[11:02] ---**
No, she's still a guy.
**[11:06] ---**
She just smells nice.
**[11:08] ---**
What am I doing?
**[11:10] ---**
Sit down here. I'll sit over there.
**[11:14] ---**
Okay.
**[11:17] ---**
**[11:19] ---**
I noticed that when I got here.
**[11:22] ---**
Did you?
**[11:24] ---**
I was changing here.
**[11:27] ---**
You usually leave your doujinshi
lying around anyway.
**[11:31] ---**
So, well...
**[11:33] ---**
I think it's normal for
a guy to do those things.
**[11:37] ---**
Don't worry about it.
**[11:39] ---**
**[11:41] ---**
This situation's like one you'd see in
a harem game or a light novel, isn't it?
**[11:46] ---**
Or one where the title's
written with four hiragana.
**[11:48] ---**
Or maybe something like *Me and My (Male)
Underclassman Do Something or Other*?
**[11:54] ---**
I'm sorry... I kind of did that deliberately.
**[11:57] ---**
I thought I had to.
**[12:00] ---**
You don't play H-games, Hato-kun?
You've got a PC, right?
**[12:04] ---**
No. I've never tried one.
**[12:06] ---**
They're hard to get into,
and they're not cheap.
**[12:10] ---**
True. They're usually around 10,000 yen.
**[12:14] ---**
Buying clothes and makeup
takes most of my money.
**[12:18] ---**
Clothes, huh?
**[12:19] ---**
I tried to buy nice clothes once.
**[12:23] ---**
It was rough.
**[12:25] ---**
You did?
**[12:26] ---**
H-games may be expensive,
**[12:28] ---**
but I seriously don't know how someone pays
twenty or thirty thousand yen for a shirt.
**[12:32] ---**
The nice part of being a salaryman is that
you don't have to worry about your outfit.
**[12:36] ---**
You just have to wear a necktie.
**[12:45] ---**
I...
**[12:47] ---**
BL stuff is all I can afford.
**[12:52] ---**
Then you're interested.
**[12:55] ---**
Want to borrow this one?
**[12:57] ---**
I didn't want to bring this up,
**[13:01] ---**
but isn't that the game Kohsaka-sempai
was selling at Comic Festival?
**[13:04] ---**
And isn't it a trap game?
**[13:07] ---**
Oh, I didn't mean this one specifically!
**[13:09] ---**
I've got others, like *DUCKY or UNDUCKY*
and *Le Eden de la Grizzly Bear*.
**[13:13] ---**
Any kind of H-Game you want!
**[13:15] ---**
Right...
**[13:16] ---**
Oh, uh, sorry. This is totally sexual
harrassment, isn't it? Never mind.
**[13:23] ---**
If you want, I can let you borrow it, but...
**[13:25] ---**
No, I couldn't!
**[13:27] ---**
But if you could tell me what you
thought about it, that would be fine.
**[13:30] ---**
I see.
**[13:32] ---**
Yeah... it's not the game I'm interested in.
**[13:36] ---**
It's what Madarame-sempai thought about it!
**[13:39] ---**
What I thought...
**[13:41] ---**
Well, I cleared a few of the routes,
and the biggest surprise was...
**[13:45] ---**
I think all of them get
pregnant in the ending.
**[13:48] ---**
I-Is that so?
**[13:50] ---**
Seriously. They just get pregnant.
No explanation at all.
**[13:54] ---**
Traps are amazing.
**[13:57] ---**
Well, they totally look like girls!
**[14:00] ---**
In a way, they're a totally new
gender. I guess it's pure fantasy.
**[14:05] ---**
In BL, guys get pregnant all the time.
**[14:08] ---**
But I shouldn't say that now.
It would just confuse him.
**[14:12] ---**
How was it as a game?
**[14:14] ---**
A pretty typical H-game, I guess.
**[14:17] ---**
Well, I've never played one, but...
**[14:21] ---**
Um... H-games are
sometimes really sad, but...
**[14:25] ---**
The usual reason you play one is...
**[14:32] ---**
It was a normal H-game that way too.
**[14:35] ---**
Very usable.
**[14:36] ---**
Really?
**[14:38] ---**
The characters are lolis and
have pigtails, the same as any girl.
**[14:42] ---**
Basically they're just
flat-chested characters.
**[14:45] ---**
No...
**[14:45] ---**
The way you play it is no different
than any other H-game.
**[14:49] ---**
I guess some of the things you do with them
because they're traps would be the same as in BL.
**[14:52] ---**
The same?
**[14:54] ---**
In BL, the character is a guy, but in a
sex scene, he's basically a girl, right?
**[14:59] ---**
Am I wrong?
**[15:00] ---**
Some women tend to view
it in terms of gender theory.
**[15:05] ---**
Huh.
**[15:06] ---**
Anyway...
**[15:08] ---**
Forget BL. What's more important is...
**[15:12] ---**
Sempai!
**[15:14] ---**
Did you clear Kohsaka-sempai's route?
**[15:17] ---**
Ah, there it is.
**[15:19] ---**
This character, eh?
**[15:22] ---**
Pregnancy ending! And in
a maternity wedding dress!
**[15:27] ---**
W-What?
**[15:30] ---**
That's how far the two
of them go in the game?
**[15:32] ---**
They aren't just going to mimic
what they did in the game!
**[15:35] ---**
It's coming! It's coming! The two
of them are going to get married!
**[15:41] ---**
Huh? But does that make it a reverse
coupling instead of Koh x Mada? Mada x Koh?
**[15:45] ---**
I didn't like that character much.
**[15:47] ---**
Her lines were all stuff I
could see Kohsaka saying.
**[15:51] ---**
Yeah?
**[15:52] ---**
So, I should make this clear.
**[15:55] ---**
What?
**[15:57] ---**
I could NOT get off to the Kohsaka character!
**[16:00] ---**
Seriously.
**[16:02] ---**
I see.
**[16:04] ---**
Too bad! Well, I'll
fantasize about it anyway.
**[16:07] ---**
This company... I wonder
about them. They kind of scare me.
**[16:13] ---**
They are totally not
going for mass market appeal.
**[16:17] ---**
I wonder if Kasukabe-san
knows about these kinds of games.
**[16:24] ---**
I wonder how she'd feel if she knew her
boyfriend was the model for an H-game character.
**[16:29] ---**
I see! If because of this game,
**[16:32] ---**
Kohsaka-sempai and Kasukabe-sempai's
relationship was strained...
**[16:36] ---**
Madarame-sempai's got the
chance to make a comeback!
**[16:39] ---**
Wait, maybe he said that because he's
thinking about it right now! What should I do?
**[16:44] ---**
But would that be the end of the
Mada x Koh marriage ceremony?
**[16:49] ---**
What a waste!
**[16:50] ---**
I need to think of a Koh x Mada
plot that includes Kasukabe-sempai!
**[16:56] ---**
No, I guess I can't put her in BL.
**[17:02] ---**
What?
**[17:04] ---**
Um... never mind.
**[17:05] ---**
You seemed to be deep in BL-land.
**[17:10] ---**
I wasn't! Not exactly!
**[17:12] ---**
Well, it doesn't matter if
I'm the bottom or anything.
**[17:17] ---**
That's right! I have to talk about that!
**[17:19] ---**
Um, I'm sorry... I know it's late
to be getting to the point, but...
**[17:22] ---**
Y-Yeah.
**[17:24] ---**
I spoke very harshly with
Kuchiki-sempai! Very harshly!
**[17:28] ---**
So I think it's okay for you to
come back to the club room now.
**[17:32] ---**
I'm really sorry!
**[17:37] ---**
No, no, no, it's not something
you need to apologize for.
**[17:41] ---**
Kuchiki-kun's just like that.
**[17:43] ---**
True, it was pretty shocking, but...
**[17:50] ---**
But I'd just been thinking that it
was hard to be in the club room,
**[17:54] ---**
now that it's all girls.
**[17:58] ---**
And even if Kuchiki-kun
doesn't come after me again,
**[18:02] ---**
I don't suppose I can stop the girls from
looking at me and going "total bottom".
**[18:07] ---**
No...
**[18:09] ---**
W-Wait, what direction is
this conversation going in?
**[18:13] ---**
So lately, well...
**[18:17] ---**
Well...
**[18:22] ---**
It's not good for somebody who's graduated
to hang around their old school forever.
**[18:26] ---**
I was just thinking about that.
**[18:30] ---**
It seemed like staying there
would just be awkward,
**[18:34] ---**
so I thought maybe a change of
scenery would be a good idea.
**[18:37] ---**
What do you mean, exactly?
**[18:40] ---**
Well... I can't say what exactly yet.
**[18:45] ---**
But maybe finding a new job?
**[18:48] ---**
Part of me's thinking I should
get away from the university.
**[18:54] ---**
It's my fault!
**[18:56] ---**
Because I said
Madarame-san is a total bottom!
**[18:59] ---**
Because I'm always thinking about BL,
**[19:01] ---**
or Koh x Mada and stuff!
**[19:07] ---**
Huh? Well, if I decided to move...
**[19:11] ---**
It would mean you wouldn't be able to
change, so I don't know about that.
**[19:15] ---**
No...
**[19:16] ---**
Don't worry about me.
**[19:19] ---**
I can find other places to change.
**[19:22] ---**
No, well... I still don't know. Finding
a new job is probably impossible anyway.
**[19:27] ---**
T-That's right!
**[19:29] ---**
The school fair is almost here,
so make sure you come for that!
**[19:33] ---**
Is it that time already?
**[19:36] ---**
We've actually been having
meetings in the club room lately.
**[19:40] ---**
Not just talking about BL.
**[19:43] ---**
What are you doing this year?
**[19:45] ---**
Ohno-sempai is doing a cosplay try-on thing,
**[19:49] ---**
and probably a special
issue of *Mebaetame* too.
**[19:52] ---**
We did cosplay last year,
**[19:55] ---**
but you've been putting a lot of effort into
*Mebaetame*, probably because Ogiue-sempai's president.
**[20:00] ---**
Yes.
**[20:01] ---**
Are you drawing something? You
always draw something for *Mebaetame*.
**[20:06] ---**
Ogiue-sempai asked me to draw a normal manga.
**[20:12] ---**
But I... I...
**[20:14] ---**
I've only ever drawn BL.
**[20:18] ---**
It's all I can draw.
**[20:23] ---**
Why not do that? Even if
it's BL... just keep drawing.
**[20:30] ---**
Even if it's the school fair,
you should draw what you like.
**[20:34] ---**
If it's really bad, Ogiue-san will stop you.
**[20:38] ---**
The club room is probably a lot more
lively now than when we were there.
**[20:43] ---**
Even if he's being used for BL fantasies,
**[20:46] ---**
he doesn't make people stop it.
**[20:51] ---**
Sempai...
**[20:53] ---**
Please come to the school fair.
**[20:55] ---**
Yeah, I'll go.
**[20:58] ---**
Looks like I can go without
worrying about too much.
**[21:02] ---**
I'll... I'll draw it!
***SIGN*** Society for the Study of Modern Visual Culture
**[21:06] ---**
I'd like to try my best
at drawing a non-BL manga.
**[21:11] ---**
I-I see.
**[21:19] ---**
Then I'll make sure I'm ready.
**[21:23] ---**
Thank you.
**[21:24] ---**
Yeah. You too.
**[23:10] ---**
I want to ask at the top of my lungs:
***SIGN*** Preview
**[23:12] ---**
Why does *Genshiken* not
have a swimsuit episode?
**[23:14] ---**
Most anime have at least one per
season! Some have two or three!
***SIGN***
**[23:17] ---**
We've got Comic Festival in summer.
**[23:19] ---**
That no good! We need to show
more skin if we're going to sell!
**[23:22] ---**
Aren't guys in swimsuits
more popular these days?
**[23:24] ---**
You mean that one anime that's got swimsuits
every episode? We can't lose to it!
**[23:28] ---**
I'm ready to do my part!
**[23:30] ---**
Legal lolis, sumo wrestling, and
traps? Where's the demand for that?
**[23:34] ---**
I think it's out there, somewhere.
**[23:36] ---**
N-Next time on *Genshiken Second Generation:*
White Gate Keeper!
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