# E964 - Mori Kogoro's Grand Lecture (Part Three)
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**[00:00] Ran**
[ED]
**[00:00] Mei**
[Eyecatch]
**[00:00] ---**
Detective Conan Episode 964 "Mori
Kogoro's Grand Lecture (Part Three)"
**[00:00] Conan**
[OP]
**[00:01] Conan**
The two coincidentally simultaneous
murders were solved,
**[00:06] Conan**
and the old man's lecture
concluded without incident.
**[00:10] Conan**
Event guest Kisaki Eri arrived, and
the panel was just about to begin
**[00:17] Conan**
with the last minute addition
of a surprising guest...
***SIGN*** Part 2 What are the great detective's secrets?! A new heroine enquires! Tsukuba Mei
**[00:24] Mei**
I'm Tsukuba Mei.
**[00:26] Mei**
I look forward to working with you.
**[00:29] Conan**
Right now at this moment,
light pierces the darkness!
**[00:32] Conan**
Overcome all limits with
your cool reasoning skills!
**[00:34] Conan**
The old man and his wife appear on a panel,
but a detective girl picks a fight!
**[00:37] Conan**
Always determining the one truth
**[00:39] Conan**
with the body of a child
and the mind of an adult,
**[00:41] Conan**
his name is Detective Conan!
***SIGN*** Mori Kogoro's Grand Lecture (Part Three)
**[02:25] Conan**
"Mori Kogoro's Grand Lecture, Part Three!"
***SIGN*** Part 2 What are the great detective's secrets?! A new heroine enquires! Tsukuba Mei
**[02:32] Mei**
I'm Tsukuba Mei.
**[02:34] Mei**
I look forward to working with you.
***SIGN*** Tsukuba Mei (22)
Event Staff
**[02:39] Ran**
You're appearing on the panel, too?
**[02:42] Mei**
Yes.
**[02:43] Mei**
I'm actually studying criminal
psychology in college.
**[02:48] Hiabara**
So that's why.
**[02:49] Conan**
I see.
**[02:51] Mei**
I asked the president and
manager to let me go onstage,
**[02:54] Mei**
since it seemed like there weren't
enough guests for the panel.
***SIGN*** Ujimori Yusaku (45)
HISHIDA Hall Manager
***SIGN*** Tsunohazu Naoya (35)
Event Company President
**[02:57] Ujimori**
What do you think, Mori-sensei?
**[02:59] Ujimori**
I apologize for the change in plans,
**[03:02] Ujimori**
but honestly, as the event organizer,
**[03:04] Ujimori**
I'd like to do whatever I can to dispel the
rumors that will surely spread about the murders.
**[03:10] Tsunohazu**
Kisaki-sensei, what do you think?
**[03:14] Eri**
Sounds interesting.
**[03:16] Eri**
I don't mind at all.
**[03:19] Conan**
*Huh?*
**[03:21] Kogoro**
Very well. Ask me anything.
**[03:24] Kogoro**
As the greatest of great detectives,
**[03:27] Kogoro**
I, Mori Kogoro, shall reveal all my secrets.
**[03:32] Mei**
Thank you!
**[03:34] Ujimori**
Then let's get ready.
**[03:36] Tsunohazu**
Got it.
**[03:39] Amagi**
In here.
***SIGN*** Amagi Kosuke (28)
Event Staff
***SIGN*** Furui Kiho (25)
Event Staff
**[03:40] Eri**
Thank you. Could I get a coffee?
**[03:44] Furui**
Yes, right away.
**[03:50] Eri**
Oh.
**[03:51] Eri**
What's this?
**[03:54] Amagi**
I'm sorry.
**[03:57] Amagi**
That's odd. These scraps of paper
weren't here when I cleaned earlier.
**[04:04] Conan**
Wait!
**[04:05] Haibara**
Don't throw those away!
**[04:06] Amagi**
What?
***SIGN*** Hanai Rika (23)
MC
**[04:10] Rika**
Thank you for waiting.
**[04:11] Rika**
We'd now like to move onto the panel.
**[04:16] Rika**
Due to certain circumstances, we've
drastically changed the content of the event.
***SIGN*** What are the great detective's secrets?! A new heroine enquires!
**[04:19] Rika**
"What are the great detective's
secrets?! A new heroine enquires!"
**[04:24] Rika**
is the new title we'll be going with.
**[04:27] Rika**
Allow me to introduce our panelists.
**[04:29] Rika**
First up is the man who just regaled
us with his entertaining stories,
**[04:33] Rika**
the great detective Mori Kogoro.
**[04:37] Kogoro**
Thank you.
**[04:39] Rika**
Next is the lawyer Kisaki Eri-sensei.
**[04:43] Eri**
Hello.
**[04:45] Rika**
We're hoping to get your thoughts
from a legal perspective.
**[04:50] Eri**
Thank you for having me.
**[04:52] Ran**
Dad, Mom!
**[04:54] Rika**
Finally, representing us as a special guest
**[04:57] Rika**
is the new generation's detective girl,
**[05:01] Rika**
and student of criminal
psychology, Tsukuba Mei-san.
**[05:07] Mei**
Hello.
**[05:13] Haibara**
The game should be over by now
if it didn't go into overtime.
**[05:17] Conan**
All right. The next step is...
**[05:22] Mitsuhiko**
That was a great game!
**[05:24] Genta**
I thought it'd go into overtime, but then
they made that comeback with a header!
**[05:29] Genta**
So cool!
**[05:33] Ayumi**
But Conan-kun and Ai-chan never showed up.
**[05:37] Ayumi**
I wonder why?
**[05:38] Mitsuhiko**
I know. They could've reached out to us.
**[05:43] Genta**
Then they'll be treating us
to extra large eel bowls!
**[05:49] Genta**
What? Oh, no.
**[05:56] Conan**
We've been waiting for you, Detective Boys.
**[05:59] Ayumi**
Conan-kun, Ai-chan.
**[06:00] Mitsuhiko**
What's going on?
**[06:02] Mitsuihko**
Is it true that there were two murders here?
**[06:06] Genta**
Depending on your answer, you
might also owe us giant pork buns!
**[06:09] Haibara**
Just come inside.
**[06:16] Conan**
We found three of these
in different locations.
**[06:21] Conan**
Two were at crime scenes, and the other
was in Kisaki-san's changing room.
**[06:26] Ayumi**
Ran-oneesan's mom?
**[06:28] Genta**
What is this?
**[06:30] Haibara**
Probably some kind of message or code.
**[06:33] Mitsuhiko**
A code?
**[06:34] Conan**
Which means there must be a
codebook for deciphering it.
**[06:38] Ayumi**
A codebook?
**[06:39] Mitsuhiko**
I know!
**[06:41] Mitsuhiko**
It's a set of rules for letters or sentences
**[06:44] Mitsuhiko**
that appear randomly organized showing how
rearranging them according to certain rules
**[06:49] Mitsuhiko**
or removing certain sections creates
a meaningful message, right?
**[06:52] Haibara**
That's right.
**[06:54] Genta**
It's what?
**[06:56] Mitsuhiko**
For example, if the menu of your favorite
eel restaurant were a codebook,
**[07:01] Mitsuhiko**
if you removed only the
letters in "eel bowl" (unaju)
***SIGN*** U-NA-JI-YU-U
***SIGN*** KI-MO-SU-I
**[07:05] Mitsuhiko**
or "liver soup" (kimosui) from a
sentence that appears random...
**[07:08] Ayumi**
Oh, I see.
**[07:10] Genta**
In other words, we need to
find an eel restaurant's menu.
**[07:14] Genta**
You can count on us!
**[07:15] Both**
No!
**[07:17] Haibara**
We're looking for the magazine
these pages were torn from.
**[07:20] Haibara**
It should be someplace visible.
**[07:23] Mitsuhiko**
Why?
**[07:25] Conan**
It's a long story.
**[07:27] Conan**
But if we don't hurry, I have a feeling
something terrible will happen.
**[07:31] Conan**
So let's find that magazine first.
**[07:33] Mitsuhiko**
Got it.
**[07:34] Ayumi**
The Detective Boys are on the case.
**[07:36] Genta**
All right! I'm not sure what's
going on, but let's do this!
**[07:39] All**
Yeah!
***SIGN*** Event Schedule
***SIGN*** Beika City History
**[07:52] Rika**
Next, new generation's girl
detective Tsukuba Mei-san,
**[07:57] Rika**
it seems you have some questions
for the Sleeping Kogoro.
**[08:00] Mei**
Oh, yes!
**[08:02] Mei**
My friend asked me about a murder
**[08:05] Mei**
that happened at a certain
college one year ago.
**[08:10] Eri**
What?
**[08:11] Kogori**
I see. Why don't you tell us the details?
**[08:15] Mei**
All right.
***SIGN*** University
***SIGN*** Research Lab
**[08:19] Mei**
The victim was a professor at the college.
**[08:22] Mei**
The police arrested the
professor's assistant,
**[08:26] Mei**
who was also the older brother of my friend.
**[08:28] Mei**
Allegedly his motive was the professor
claimed a paper he had written
***SIGN*** Ashida Hiroto (26)
Research Assistant
**[08:33] Mei**
was plagiarized from his own work
and threatened to ruin his career.
**[08:36] Eri**
You...
**[08:38] Kogoro**
Huh?
**[08:39] Eri**
Nothing.
**[08:40] Kogoro**
Come to think of it, that did happen.
**[08:43] Kogoro**
The suspect confessed to his crime,
and he was found guilty in court.
**[08:48] Kogoro**
I don't think there was
any problem with the case.
**[08:50] Mei**
There's a huge problem!
***SIGN*** Staff Room Authorized Personnel Only
**[08:52] Mitsuhiko**
I found it! This is it!
**[08:54] Mitsuhiko**
Look at this.
**[09:01] Conan**
This is definitely it.
**[09:03] Haibara**
*Caseweek*, huh?
**[09:04] Mitsuhiko**
*Caseweek*?
**[09:06] Mitsuihko**
That's a famous American news magazine.
***SIGN*** Japanese Edition
**[09:10] Genta**
But this is in Japanese.
**[09:12] Ayumi**
Does that mean it's the Japanese version?
**[09:15] Conan**
The American edition and
the Japanese edition...
***SIGN*** Japanese Edition
**[09:18] Conan**
English and Japanese...
**[09:23] Conan**
*I see. So that's how it is.*
**[09:26] Conan**
I've cracked the code!
**[09:28] Mitsuhiko**
Really?
**[09:29] Haibara**
There's also this.
***SIGN*** University Professor Murdered
***SIGN*** University Professor Murdered
***SIGN*** Toto Keizai Newspaper
**[09:37] Haibara**
And that.
**[09:38] Mei**
*There's a huge problem!*
**[09:40] Kogoro**
*A huge problem?*
**[09:42] Mei**
*Yes.*
**[09:43] Mei**
* The murder of the professor at*
* that college isn't over yet.*
**[09:46] Mei**
* There's no doubt that Ashida Hiroto, who's*
* currently serving time, was the murderer.*
**[09:52] Mei**
Even by my deduction.
**[09:54] Mei**
But my friend can't believe he'd
steal another person's paper,
**[09:58] Mei**
much less kill someone over one.
**[10:04] Kogoro**
I see. Is that right?
**[10:10] Kogoro**
Takagi, I have an urgent request.
**[10:13] Mei**
But ultimately, he offered no
other testimony at his trial,
**[10:17] Mei**
and no appeal was made.
**[10:21] Mei**
Why would he do that?
**[10:23] Mei**
I'd like you to determine that, Mori-san.
**[10:26] Kogoro**
What?
**[10:28] Kogoro**
I'm not sure what you expect me to do.
**[10:31] Mei**
Of course.
**[10:32] Mei**
You couldn't possibly know.
**[10:35] Kogoro**
Huh?
**[10:36] Mei**
After all, you're a hack who couldn't
even decipher the mystery message
**[10:40] Mei**
left at the crime scene!
**[10:55] Kogoro**
Is that true, Takagi?
**[10:56] Takagi**
*Yes. You were right, Mori-san.*
**[11:00] Kogoro**
Got it. Contact the inspector.
**[11:03] Kogoro**
Have him return immediately.
**[11:05] Kogoro**
Tell him this case isn't over yet.
**[11:07] Takagi**
*I-It's what?*
**[11:09] Kogoro**
Also, Takagi, could you do one other thing?
**[11:13] Mitsuihko**
Where did Conan-kun go?
**[11:16] Haibara**
Over there.
**[11:17] Genta**
What's up with Conan?
**[11:20] Mitsuhiko**
Haibara-san?
**[11:21] Ayumi**
Wait, Ai-chan!
**[11:23] Mei**
Why didn't he make an appeal?
**[11:26] Mei**
Because he lost hope. He was betrayed.
**[11:30] Kogoro**
Betrayed? By who?
**[11:33] Mei**
By his irresponsible court-appointed
lawyer who quit his case!
**[11:38] Conan**
*I knew it!*
**[11:40] Kogoro**
Lawyer?
**[11:43] Kogoro**
Could it be?
**[11:47] Eri**
Yes. She's talking about me.
**[11:50] Eri**
And you're Mei-san, the younger
sister of Ashida Hiroto-san,
**[11:53] Eri**
the man currently serving time in prison.
**[11:58] Kogoro**
Sh-She's what?!
**[12:01] Eri**
In other words, you're not
talking about your friend.
**[12:04] Eri**
You're talking about yourself, Mei-san.
**[12:07] Mei**
That's right.
**[12:08] Eri**
I believe Tsukuba was your
mother's maiden name.
**[12:13] Eri**
And you're studying criminal psychology
at an American university.
**[12:18] Eri**
I remember now that I heard you've been
studying abroad since two years ago.
**[12:23] Eri**
When did you return?
**[12:25] Mei**
A week ago.
**[12:26] Eri**
Why didn't you contact me?
**[12:29] Mei**
Because I didn't want to hear your excuses!
**[12:34] Kogoro**
Hey, wait!
**[12:35] Kogoro**
What are you trying to do?
**[12:45] Kogoro**
I've deciphered the coded message, Mei-san.
**[12:49] Kogoro**
Don't do anything hasty.
**[12:52] Audience**
That's it!
**[12:53] Audience**
He's asleep!
**[12:54] Audience**
It's the Sleeping Kogoro!
**[12:59] Ran**
Dad...
**[13:01] Mei**
Then decipher it for me, detective.
**[13:04] Kogoro**
Very well.
**[13:05] Kogoro**
I just received word from
someone who found the codebook.
**[13:11] Kogoro**
The layered pages torn from the
Japanese edition of *Caseweek*
**[13:16] Kogoro**
were pages 11 and 9,
**[13:19] Kogoro**
19 and 1, and 11 and 9 again.
**[13:26] Kogoro**
When applied to the alphabet,
**[13:28] Kogoro**
11 corresponds to K and 9
corresponds to I, spelling KI.
**[13:33] Kogoro**
19 is S and 1 is A, spelling SA.
**[13:37] Kogoro**
Finally, the last code is the
same as the first, spelling KI.
**[13:40] Kogoro**
When read all together,
**[13:41] Kogoro**
they spell K-I-S-A-K-I, or Kisaki.
**[13:47] Ran**
C-Could it be?
**[13:48] Eri**
In other words, I was her target.
**[13:51] Eri**
But in that case...
**[13:53] Kogoro**
Yes.
**[13:54] Kogoro**
She could've acted anytime.
**[14:04] Kogoro**
But she didn't.
**[14:07] Kogoro**
She deliberately left a message
and even had us find the codebook,
***SIGN*** University President Murdered
**[14:13] Kogoro**
which featured an article on the case.
**[14:15] Kogoro**
Conan, where did you find the codebook?
**[14:17] Conan**
I'm here!
**[14:19] Conan**
The Detective Boys will answer that.
**[14:22] Conan**
Mitsuhiko.
**[14:29] Mitsuhiko**
Oh, uh, well...
**[14:32] Genta**
It was inside her locker.
**[14:34] Ayumi**
Mitsuhiko-kun found it.
**[14:37] Mitsuhiko**
That's right.
**[14:39] Mitsuhiko**
*I found it!*
***SIGN*** Tsukuba
**[14:44] Kogoro**
Why did she leave it someplace so obvious?
**[14:48] Kogoro**
Because she wanted me
**[14:51] Kogoro**
to reveal her brother's true motive.
**[14:56] Kogoro**
And perhaps, if possible,
**[14:59] Kogoro**
to stop her from doing
what she's about to do.
**[15:04] Mei**
So you figured out his true motive.
**[15:09] Kogoro**
Not even I know that.
**[15:12] Mei**
What? Don't be ridiculous!
**[15:15] Kogoro**
But I can identify someone who does know.
**[15:20] Mei**
Who?
**[15:22] Kogoro**
First, as far as I know, she may
have been appointed by the court,
**[15:26] Kogoro**
but Kisaki-sensei would
never step down from a case.
**[15:31] Kogoro**
She was probably dismissed by your brother.
**[15:36] Mei**
What? Why?
**[15:38] Kogoro**
Because she identified his true motive.
**[15:44] Eri**
Don't speak.
**[15:45] Mei**
What do you mean?
**[15:47] Kogoro**
In order to plead extenuating circumstances,
it would have to be revealed in court.
**[15:52] Kogoro**
But your brother refused.
**[15:56] Kogoro**
So he dismissed her.
**[15:58] Eri**
Silence, Mori Kogoro!
**[16:00] Eri**
Say anymore, and I'll sue!
**[16:02] Kogoro**
Be my guest.
**[16:04] Kogoro**
But allow me to say this.
**[16:08] Kogoro**
Even after she was dismissed,
rather than moving on,
**[16:11] Kogoro**
she continued investigating the case.
**[16:15] Mei**
But why?
**[16:18] Kogoro**
She was probably searching for documents
**[16:22] Kogoro**
demonstrating extenuating circumstances
that didn't touch on his true motive.
**[16:25] Mei**
You're lying! That's just an excuse!
**[16:35] Ran**
Mom! Dad!
**[16:43] Conan**
*This is bad!*
**[16:52] Megure**
What's going on?
**[16:53] Chiba**
Calm down, everyone!
**[17:02] Kogoro**
Kisaki-sensei, unless you
reveal his true motive now,
**[17:06] Kogoro**
she won't put down the knife.
**[17:09] Kogoro**
At first she only joined
the staff of my event
**[17:16] Kogoro**
so she could get close to you.
**[17:19] Kogoro**
But by chance, two murders occurred.
**[17:22] Kogoro**
She decided to use them to
confront you more effectively.
**[17:29] Kogoro**
So she tore pages from the
magazine featuring an article
**[17:34] Kogoro**
on her brother's case that she always
carried with her and left a coded message,
**[17:38] Kogoro**
all so she could use me to reveal the truth
about the case and tell it to the world.
**[17:46] Eri**
Is that true?
**[17:49] Mei**
You really are a great detective.
**[17:54] Eri**
But I'm a lawyer.
**[17:56] Eri**
I'd never do anything to harm a client.
**[18:00] Kogoro**
Of course not. However,
**[18:03] Kogoro**
someday the one truth will be revealed.
**[18:08] Kogoro**
Is that not natural as well?
**[18:33] Eri**
Your brother's true motive was you, Mei-san.
**[18:38] Mei**
What?
**[18:40] Conan**
The truth uncovered by Kisaki was shocking.
**[18:45] Conan**
The plagiarism thought to be his motive
for murder was actually the reverse.
**[18:50] Conan**
It was the professor who stole
Mei-san's brother's paper.
**[18:56] Conan**
When he went to complain,
**[18:58] Conan**
the professor revealed the dark secret
behind Mei-san's study abroad program.
**[19:02] Conan**
Her recommendation had
been bought by her mother,
**[19:07] Conan**
who had passed away the
previous year from an illness.
**[19:09] Conan**
He threatened to expose the truth.
**[19:12] Mei**
N-No... My mom?
**[19:16] Eri**
You mustn't blame your mother.
**[19:18] Eri**
She was just trying to
do what was best for you.
**[19:24] Conan**
Kisaki's investigation revealed even more.
**[19:28] Conan**
Her mother only made the bribe because
that professor had urged her to do so.
**[19:34] Conan**
Furthermore, he demanded even more money
if he didn't want the situation exposed
**[19:37] Conan**
after you concluded your
study abroad program.
**[19:42] Mei**
M-My brother!
**[19:45] Eri**
Your brother kept his silence to protect you
**[19:48] Eri**
and your mother without
concern for himself.
**[19:57] ---**
I... had no idea...
**[20:04] Mei**
I... I...
**[20:17] Kogoro**
Ouch...
**[20:18] Kogoro**
Huh?
**[20:19] Kogoro**
Don't!
**[20:25] Mei**
Let go! Let me die!
**[20:29] Conan**
Listen to this, Mei-san!
**[20:31] Takagi**
*Mori-san, this is Takagi!*
**[20:33] Kogoro**
Huh?
**[20:36] Takagi**
As you instructed, I met with Ashiya Hiroto.
**[20:40] Takagi**
He'd like to hire Kisaki-sensei again.
**[20:43] Takagi**
He'll rescind her dismissal.
**[20:45] Mei**
What?
**[20:46] Takagi**
*When I told him about the situation,*
**[20:49] Takagi**
*he apologized for making his sister worry.*
**[20:56] Mei**
Brother...
**[21:02] Kogoro**
Good grief.
**[21:03] Both**
Mori-kun!
**[21:04] Both**
Mori-san!
**[21:05] Mei**
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
**[21:10] Eri**
Now we can request a retrial.
**[21:15] Eri**
Wait a minute...
**[21:17] Eri**
You're just a detective. You
should've stayed out of this!
**[21:19] Kogoro**
What?
**[21:21] Conan**
*This is really bad.*
**[21:25] Kogoro**
It wasn't because I'm just a detective.
**[21:28] Kogoro**
I had to do it *because* I'm a detective.
**[21:36] Ran**
Dad, Mom...
***SIGN*** University President Murdered
***SIGN*** Retrial Scheduled
**[23:06] Conan**
The retrial began,
**[23:08] Conan**
but it was unclear if the defendant's extenuating
circumstances would be recognized or not.
***SIGN*** Mori Detective Agency
**[23:15] Ran**
I'm sure he'll be fine.
**[23:18] Ran**
After all, he's got the
best lawyer on his side.
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Best Lawyer
**[23:20] Conan**
Yeah.
**[23:22] Kogoro**
I still can't remember what happened.
**[23:28] Kogoro**
Well, whatever. That's nothing
new, and beer still tastes good.
**[23:36] Conan**
Don't compare detective work to beer.
**[23:39] Conan**
Although it all works out
because he's that kind of guy.
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**[23:46] Yonekura**
Hello, everyone.
**[23:47] Yonekura**
Thank you for coming to the "Kaiju Gomera
VS Kamen Yaiba" announcement event.
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**[23:56] Kazuha**
Heiji!
**[23:57] Heiji**
What?
**[23:58] Kazuha**
Let's take a picture with Gomera.
**[24:01] Heiji**
Sheesh.
**[24:07] Kogoro**
Wh-What's this?!
***SIGN*** Kaiju Gomera versus Kamen Yaiba (Prologue)
**[24:09] Conan**
The next episode of Conan is "Kaiju
Gomera versus Kamen Yaiba, Prologue!"
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**[24:30] Both**
Next Conan's hint!
**[24:32] Conan**
Online news!
**[24:34] Conan**
The holiday season ends
with the popular Yaiba!
***SIGN*** Don't miss the next episode.
**[24:36] Ran**
All together now!
**[24:37] All**
Merry Christmas!